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Originally Posted by RichB View Post



What is your configuration?[
it's on the pic...if you click on it, it should open up and you can see what I have.

Basically: J River media in WASAPI bit-for-bit to the musiland USB01 (to enable 192khz usb capabilities from windows... default windows usb drivers cannot go above 88khz), to the digic III DAC, to the Pre, to the amps.
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Originally Posted by RichB View Post

I would rank them in this order:

1) The Oppo direct to the amps was fantastic no grain, tight bass, with massive detail. Rank 10.
2) The AV8801 was extremenly details, with a brighter high, tight bass, and massive detail. But a bit more in your face than the Oppo direct. Very close though. Rank: 8-9.
3) The 5507 did not fair well, the presentation was much less bright, bass was strong but not as tight, and it was not in the same ballpark as the Oppo Direct or AV8801. Rank: 5.

- Rich
Yep, I would think that would've been the result. Thanks for sharing
post #2402 of 11327
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Originally Posted by ssabripo View Post

it's on the pic...if you click on it, it should open up and you can see what I have.

Basically: J River media in WASAPI bit-for-bit to the musiland USB01 (to enable 192khz usb capabilities from windows... default windows usb drivers cannot go above 88khz), to the digic III DAC, to the Pre, to the amps.
Yep, I would think that would've been the result. Thanks for sharing

Thanks for the info.

You may want to include a higher resolution picture. I cannot read them.

- Rich
post #2403 of 11327
just wondering if people here are generally pleased with Audyssey PRO vs regular calibration through the pre/pro
post #2404 of 11327
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Originally Posted by RichB View Post

Thanks for the info.

You may want to include a higher resolution picture. I cannot read them.

- Rich

right click, and put the URL in a new tab or browser window....avs forum resizes it, but you can see the higher res that way
post #2405 of 11327
Do we know what kind of DAC is in the 8801 yet?
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Originally Posted by ssabripo View Post

right click, and put the URL in a new tab or browser window....avs forum resizes it, but you can see the higher res that way

Got it.

What remote pulls all this together?

- Rich
post #2407 of 11327
Hi,

Need some help here, anyone tried to connect the DC out from AV8801 to MC8207 amp?
On the manual of av8801 it explicitly says use mono mini jack and NOT stereo mini jack, but for MC8207, it says The 1/8 inch stereo mini phone plug connects to a McIntosh Preamplifier or A/V Control Center Power Control Output"

So do I just use a mono and MC8207 can be controlled? Or MC8207 can only be controlled with stereo mini, and would I short my av8801 using stereo mini to 8207?

Thanks
George
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Is it really that much difference bethween going HDMI from and Oppo, to running Analog from a Oppo BDP-105?
Can one run full Adyssey on the 7.1 analog inputs?

I have the BDP-93 today, and haven't been thinking of upgrading the player yet, but nice to know for future upgrades.
Not that much difference in price, well double price, but not too expencive.
post #2409 of 11327
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Originally Posted by AndersT2 View Post

Is it really that much difference bethween going HDMI from and Oppo, to running Analog from a Oppo BDP-105?
Can one run full Adyssey on the 7.1 analog inputs?

I have the BDP-93 today, and haven't been thinking of upgrading the player yet, but nice to know for future upgrades.
Not that much difference in price, well double price, but not too expencive.


No! Audyssey does not work on the 7.1 inputs and is kinda besides the point of using them, As for the sound difference yes there is one, Better comes down to personal taste, for example I use the 105 via xlr to the 8801 for 2ch sacd and cd, I use the hdmi 2 out from the 105 to bitsteam multi/ch sacd to let the 8801 with Audyssey work its magic and it does this at a level of sheer amazement at times, I'm a 2 ch kinda guy and Am smitten by the 8801's ability to treat signals as Royalty! If you happen to get a 105 good luck sending it back! together they form a true state of the art set up!
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Be warned
post #2410 of 11327
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Originally Posted by cglin222 View Post

Hi,

Need some help here, anyone tried to connect the DC out from AV8801 to MC8207 amp?
On the manual of av8801 it explicitly says use mono mini jack and NOT stereo mini jack, but for MC8207, it says The 1/8 inch stereo mini phone plug connects to a McIntosh Preamplifier or A/V Control Center Power Control Output"

So do I just use a mono and MC8207 can be controlled? Or MC8207 can only be controlled with stereo mini, and would I short my av8801 using stereo mini to 8207?

Thanks
George

I'm using a stereo mini on a MC205. No problems. Not sure about the 8207, but with the traditional Mac meters you have to run a stereo to turn them on when using the trigger. Or maybe it was to be able to turn them off. Don't remember but I went through this when I first got the Mac. Just use stereo....
post #2411 of 11327
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Originally Posted by RichB View Post

Got it.

What remote pulls all this together?

- Rich

URC MX-980
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Hey guys! Long story short I can upgrade from a 7701 to an 8801 for 1500 dollars. I have a poor room with no treatments but otherwise nice equipment. Do you suppose the 8801 will be a significant improvement? Worth the 1500? My dealer is selling me the 8801 at cost after a 6 month repair nightmare with a 7005. I know ideally room treatments would be better but they just aren't an option.
post #2413 of 11327
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Originally Posted by pwz414 View Post

Hey guys! Long story short I can upgrade from a 7701 to an 8801 for 1500 dollars. I have a poor room with no treatments but otherwise nice equipment. Do you suppose the 8801 will be a significant improvement? Worth the 1500? My dealer is selling me the 8801 at cost after a 6 month repair nightmare with a 7005. I know ideally room treatments would be better but they just aren't an option.
do you need the extra channels,

did audyssey xt do anything for you in terms of improving sound? if so the audyssey xt32 might help even more.
post #2414 of 11327
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Originally Posted by AndersT2 View Post

Is it really that much difference bethween going HDMI from and Oppo, to running Analog from a Oppo BDP-105?
Can one run full Adyssey on the 7.1 analog inputs?

No Audyssey on the 7.1 inputs.

I have the BDP-93 today, and haven't been thinking of upgrading the player yet, but nice to know for future upgrades.
Not that much difference in price, well double price, but not too expencive.

The 93 has decent analog outs so you can always try them and that should give you an idea.
If you want the processing for bass management or Audyssey, then this is a not a very good option.
However, if you have full range speakers and a decent room, you may prefer the analog outputs.

In my room with my spealkers, I prefer the 7.1 Analog input for music.
I am not that particular for movies. I like both.
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Originally Posted by audiofan1 View Post

No! Audyssey does not work on the 7.1 inputs and is kinda besides the point of using them, As for the sound difference yes there is one, Better comes down to personal taste, for example I use the 105 via xlr to the 8801 for 2ch sacd and cd, I use the hdmi 2 out from the 105 to bitsteam multi/ch sacd to let the 8801 with Audyssey work its magic and it does this at a level of sheer amazement at times, I'm a 2 ch kinda guy and Am smitten by the 8801's ability to treat signals as Royalty! If you happen to get a 105 good luck sending it back! together they form a true state of the art set up!
biggrin.gif
Be warned

I like the XLR's from the 105 better than the HDMI for music. They do sound different.
I am not sure why, I doubt the DACs are the readon, there is a lot of crap to survive for PCM to get across the HDMI interface unscathed.

The XLR inputs are can be processed (unlike the 7.1), does Audyssey work on them?


- Rich
post #2415 of 11327
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Originally Posted by AndersT2 View Post

Is it really that much difference bethween going HDMI from and Oppo, to running Analog from a Oppo BDP-105?
Can one run full Adyssey on the 7.1 analog inputs?

I have the BDP-93 today, and haven't been thinking of upgrading the player yet, but nice to know for future upgrades.
Not that much difference in price, well double price, but not too expencive.

On a Marantz 7005, I could hear a slight difference between the HDMI and Analogue outputs with my Oppo BDP-93. The Analogue sounded a tad better, although I admit it may have just been a wee bit louder even though I left the volume control alone.
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Anyone running a small fan or two on top of the 8801 to help keep her cool? Mine is running almost as warm as the amp!

If so, how are you turning the fan on/off since there is no switched outlet on the 8801.....
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I use an Antec Component Cooler. Excellent results!

http://www.*****************.com/untitled1.html
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Not sure why my site is censored. Not like I sell stuff there. Anyway, go to page 2 there...
post #2419 of 11327
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Originally Posted by pwz414 View Post

Hey guys! Long story short I can upgrade from a 7701 to an 8801 for 1500 dollars. I have a poor room with no treatments but otherwise nice equipment. Do you suppose the 8801 will be a significant improvement? Worth the 1500? My dealer is selling me the 8801 at cost after a 6 month repair nightmare with a 7005. I know ideally room treatments would be better but they just aren't an option.
Dont even blink. Just do it. Worth the $1500. Period.
post #2420 of 11327
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Originally Posted by cp1966 View Post

Anyone running a small fan or two on top of the 8801 to help keep her cool? Mine is running almost as warm as the amp!

If so, how are you turning the fan on/off since there is no switched outlet on the 8801.....

I bought some from a place called the Cooler Guys very inexpensive.they work great and there cheap...
post #2421 of 11327
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Originally Posted by cp1966 View Post

Anyone running a small fan or two on top of the 8801 to help keep her cool? Mine is running almost as warm as the amp!

If so, how are you turning the fan on/off since there is no switched outlet on the 8801.....

Hi, interesting, my AV8801 runs relatively cool, even after hours of processing audio/video. I use a Shunyata Venom 3 power cord from the AV8801 into a Furman Elite-20 PF i power conditioner. The Furman is plugged into an Oyaide R1 wall outlet via a Shunyata Copperhead power cord.
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cp 1966...are you sure the unit is totally off? If you think it is after you think its off I bet you any money that your other zones are still on....Others and mysefl have experienced this....turn off the the zones and then go back to the unit after its sat for a while....it should be dead cold.
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mine runs warm, not not hot like my previous onkyo pr-sc5507
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Originally Posted by randman View Post

I thought my AV8801 was running a bit warm when not in use, and it turns out that Zones 2, 3 and 4 were remaining on even though I don't use these zones (others had experiences this issue too).

Marantz had sent me the IR (infrared) and Serial RS232 commands for the AV8801. I programmed my Pronto remote to talk to the Marantz via both IR and RS232. With RS232, I can query the Marantz from my Pronto, and I can get the power status of all 5 zones to display in my remote. That's how I discovered the other zones were mysteriously staying on.

It turns out that the Marantz discrete IR remote command for Main Zone "Power On", in the Marantz IR spreadsheet with RC-5 Ex. command "16 12 01", turns on ALL the zones (Main Zone and Zones 2, 3, and 4 all turn on). This sure looks like a bug. There is no discrete IR command for just turning on the Main Zone.

Power-related commands that work correctly:

- The Main Zone "Power Off" command (in the Marantz spreadsheet with RC-5 Ex command 16 12 02) turns off the Main Zone power (only), but it does not turn off the power for Zones 2, 3, and 4 (as expected).

- The "System Power Off" command (RC-5 Ex command 16 12 13) turns off power to all 4 zones. So, the Main Zone "Power On" command works more like a system power on command instead of just a Main Zone Power On command (again, I think the Power On command turning on all zones is a bug. It makes sense that there's a System Power Off command that turns off all zones, but it doesn't make as much sense to turn on all zones at the same time. Or if it does make sense, then at least provide a discrete IR command to turn ONY the Main Zone without messing with the other zones.


I have not yet tested the discrete power on commands for zones 2 to 4 since I don't use zones 2 to 4.

The original Marantz remote (when set to "MAIN" for the zone to control) turns on only the Main zone when the Power toggle button is pressed. Zones 2, 3, and 4 remain off. However, this is not a discrete command. It's a power toggle, so it is not useful when used in a universal remote where discrete commands are needed.

I am also using RS232 (serial) protocol. I use the Main Zone Power On command "ZMON", and it correctly turns ON only the Main Zone power.

A workaround others have mentioned earlier is that they just change the source input which would just turn on the Marantz if needed. However, IMO, we still need a working discrete power on command.

To summarize Marantz should provide a firmware update to correctly support a discrete power on command for the Main Zone.


Sorry if I missed it, but I am having the same issue. I have a Harmony One remote.

Even using the 8801 remote, in setup, I cannot turn off the other zones. Should be an easy task....

Anyone?
post #2425 of 11327
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Originally Posted by Rosano View Post

cp 1966...are you sure the unit is totally off? If you think it is after you think its off I bet you any money that your other zones are still on....Others and mysefl have experienced this....turn off the the zones and then go back to the unit after its sat for a while....it should be dead cold.

This may be part of the problem. The other zones ARE on (see above post), I cant get them turned "off". But I meant while the unit is running zone 1 and I am watching a movie or DirecTv, the unit is quite warm.
post #2426 of 11327
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Originally Posted by cp1966 View Post

Anyone running a small fan or two on top of the 8801 to help keep her cool? Mine is running almost as warm as the amp!

If so, how are you turning the fan on/off since there is no switched outlet on the 8801.....

http://www.coolerguys.com/840556094289.html

I use the rear usb to power it. Don't forget to go into the setup menu and switch the usb from front to back.
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Originally Posted by cp1966 View Post

Sorry if I missed it, but I am having the same issue. I have a Harmony One remote.

Even using the 8801 remote, in setup, I cannot turn off the other zones. Should be an easy task....

Anyone?


Go ahead, call me stupid; Its on the front panel of the unit itself, zone 2 on/off, zone 3 on/off, zone 4 on/off.

DOH!
post #2428 of 11327
Why would you plug a noisy brushless fan into the USB port that is on the unit? I would never power a fan off the unit. Regardless those fans radiate quite a bit of noise which is why they don't use fans on high-end processors.
post #2429 of 11327
question to those.
i have a 9.2 setup for HT
i will have 2 separate speakers i plan to use for stereo music
How can i get this to work?
post #2430 of 11327
Atta boy cp1996......lol....and if you turn the unit on by selecting an input rather tha using the standby button they will stay off.
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