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post #2851 of 11320
^ ^ ^ ^
I do my browsing through the Oppo, sorry. Started with a harddrive connected to the Marantz but I think it didn't like NTFS because the device never appeared no matter what I tried.

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Originally Posted by gurkey View Post

Its "do as you like" for DEQ.
Mostly a matter of personal taste, if and how much you want to engage DEQ, depending on your room, speakers your personal listening volume and preferences.

Ah, fine. Watching Avatar I feel it needs to be tamed considerably (10db Reference level) to avoid sound effects piling up around you.

I was also looking to use the Marantz for bass (meaning: only subs) to aid my Danley SM60F's which run straight from the Oppo to my power amp. Besides the relative level and phase there also is a delay between both routes which might be negated by using the Oppo's speaker distance setting. It would be mighty cool to let this 2600 euro Marantz solve an otherwise complex cabling matter. biggrin.gif
post #2852 of 11320
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Originally Posted by jr_spyder View Post

New guy here considering buying an 8801. Have skimmed a lot of this thread but not all 2800+ entries! I'm looking for input on the user experience of selecting and playing music files from a NAS. I know you can use AirPlay which would make it easy but for the sake of ease-of-use for my family I'm hoping to not have to rely on a PC being turned on and iTunes running for the 8801 to play tunes from our central library. I know the 8801 says it can do it, but how easy and useful is it to search/scroll though a huge library and play a song, album or playlist? Telling me there is a fantastic iThing app to do it is a good answer (like the Sonos app).

Thanks,

JR

I also use the Oppo BDP-105 to play files off my NAS.
If you have a computer on you might want to checkout J River Media center which has really nice indexing and tablet apps.
You can then PUSH music to the AV8801 as it is a DMR (Digital Media Renderer).

- Rich
post #2853 of 11320
Quote:
Originally Posted by jr_spyder View Post

New guy here considering buying an 8801. Have skimmed a lot of this thread but not all 2800+ entries! I'm looking for input on the user experience of selecting and playing music files from a NAS. I know you can use AirPlay which would make it easy but for the sake of ease-of-use for my family I'm hoping to not have to rely on a PC being turned on and iTunes running for the 8801 to play tunes from our central library. I know the 8801 says it can do it, but how easy and useful is it to search/scroll though a huge library and play a song, album or playlist? Telling me there is a fantastic iThing app to do it is a good answer (like the Sonos app).

Thanks,

JR

I have just quickly testet streaming from my NAS (Netgear), justing an Asus Transformer pad as a controller, can also use any Android og Apple device. And it was good enough.
Tried it to compare with my Muscial Fidelity M1Clic streamer. And not much difference in quality, which is a good thing.

I tried Flac, without problems.

The reason I stick with my M1Clic is that is has a display on it's own, so I don't have to use my phone or pad which has to be turned on to use (change tracks ect.), or have my TV on.

I haven't tried it controlled from the remote, I tried this with my AV8003, and using push buttons to scroll there was a nightmare. Might be better now.
I did find the app good enough, better than the M1Clic app I could use if I wanted to, they only have an Apple app, don't like that biggrin.gif
post #2854 of 11320
I don't know if Marantz can add NTFS capability to the 8801 in a firmware update, but I sure wish they would. Very annoying to have to reformat external hard drives to be able to use them with this unit. That is a step back from the Integra 80.x series.
post #2855 of 11320
Ok here goes: I got the 8801 last saturday and spent the good part hooking it up and navigating the menus. The build quality is very nice and the unit feels solid with nice button action and sturdy flip down door. I did a variety of listening from BD to DVD-A to SACD to CD to Apple TV off network. I tested all modes prior to room correction calibration. All components hooked up HDMI with bitstream out from Oppo, DTV and Apple tv. The overall sound was more forward than my Integra DHC 9.9. Imaging and detail was good with vocals more pronounced and "in your face" The sound was a little harsh, abrasive "grain" for lack of a better description. I felt a little fatigue after a while. The all speaker stereo option made this characteristic worse. After calibration the "sphere of sound" was incredible with the system working seamlessly. The sound characteristic I describe never really went away, however the sound was more detailed than my current setup. I enjoy a more "laid back" sound and I ,don't feel I could get this from this unit in my system. SACD output from the Oppo bitstream decoded in pure direct was the best sound I heard from the system an enjoyed that. The other functional thing I missed was the large display on the front of the unit. The port hole look is interesting, but for me useless. I like to know what is going on "control freak" and did not want to keep the door open. I returned the unit and will try the Integra 80.3 however worry about the HDMI board caps failing over time. My 9.9 is limping along after 4 years of intense use and needs to be cycled a few time to get HDMI signal.
To be continued....
post #2856 of 11320
I use the AV 8801 to stream from a Synology DS 1512+ and it's absolutely flawless. I stream high quality flac files and it is easy using the Marantz web based on screen GUI to view everything. You can also use the front display of the Marantz to control and its pretty as well. I have an Oppo 95 which I used to use to stream my flac files froman attached portable hard drive(s). It worked well but I love being able to use NAS and not have to use my main viewing monitor or I used to use a small sony 10" portable dvd monitor to do all my music choice selections. I also use the Apple App which works well as well. I haven't found a need to go back to attaching hard drives and running them through the Oppo 95;much more convenient going directly to the NAS and running them through the 8801.

The DAC in the Marantz is 32bit and it seems as capable or more so than the OPPO to produce a high quality product sound.

On a side note; I wish that the 8801 would have a way to access surround sound field selections via the web based GUI instead of hitting the button and not being able to individually select the specific sound field that you want. My Denon 4311CI had this capability but then the denon also had the option to adjust the channel levels without going to the test tones and adjusting the levels in that manner. Anyone know why these differences or changes were made?

Brian
post #2857 of 11320
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Originally Posted by hifiaudio2 View Post

I don't know if Marantz can add NTFS capability to the 8801 in a firmware update, but I sure wish they would. Very annoying to have to reformat external hard drives to be able to use them with this unit
that's hard to believe, I did'nt realize this. Have'nt had the opportunity to check this functionality out yet on the AV8801. I would think Marantz would be able to correct this via-firmware update.

I'm using two WD "MyBookLive" 2TB external (NAS) drives, works beautiful with my Denon AVR-2112CI. I have both drives connected to my network (router). I can see and stream anything. Wierd that the AV8801 would'nt have the same NTFS reading logic built-in?
post #2858 of 11320
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Originally Posted by cadethoerk View Post

Ok here goes: I got the 8801 last saturday and spent the good part hooking it up and navigating the menus. The build quality is very nice and the unit feels solid with nice button action and sturdy flip down door. I did a variety of listening from BD to DVD-A to SACD to CD to Apple TV off network. I tested all modes prior to room correction calibration. All components hooked up HDMI with bitstream out from Oppo, DTV and Apple tv. The overall sound was more forward than my Integra DHC 9.9. Imaging and detail was good with vocals more pronounced and "in your face" The sound was a little harsh, abrasive "grain" for lack of a better description. I felt a little fatigue after a while. The all speaker stereo option made this characteristic worse. After calibration the "sphere of sound" was incredible with the system working seamlessly. The sound characteristic I describe never really went away, however the sound was more detailed than my current setup. I enjoy a more "laid back" sound and I ,don't feel I could get this from this unit in my system. SACD output from the Oppo bitstream decoded in pure direct was the best sound I heard from the system an enjoyed that. The other functional thing I missed was the large display on the front of the unit. The port hole look is interesting, but for me useless. I like to know what is going on "control freak" and did not want to keep the door open. I returned the unit and will try the Integra 80.3 however worry about the HDMI board caps failing over time. My 9.9 is limping along after 4 years of intense use and needs to be cycled a few time to get HDMI signal.
To be continued....

It is hard to believe the Marantz is the cause of your trebble problem, unless you have a similar problem as RichB had with his unit. JimP also mentioned too much trebble, which never was investigated here. My fronts are quite unforgiving of harshness but sound fine in this regard with the Marantz through HDMI, in Pure Direct fed from my Oppo 105. There is more grain when compared to the Oppo => power amp, so that part of your analysis coincides with mine.
post #2859 of 11320
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Originally Posted by Ettepet View Post

It is hard to believe the Marantz is the cause of your trebble problem, unless you have a similar problem as RichB had with his unit. JimP also mentioned too much trebble, which never was investigated here. My fronts are quite unforgiving of harshness but sound fine in this regard with the Marantz through HDMI, in Pure Direct fed from my Oppo 105. There is more grain when compared to the Oppo => power amp, so that part of your analysis coincides with mine.

Perhpas it will make the front page now that 3 people have reported it. wink.gif

Ettepet, have you tried the 7.1 analog inputs (the two channel RCA) in Pure Direct?
I very interested in your findings..

You can easily compared (A/B) ff you can program the input codes into your remote.
Otherwise, you can use the menu to switch.

- Rich
post #2860 of 11320
I compared "XLR in", "7.1 in" and Marantz DAC on my CAT12's. What do you want to know?

I'm still busy evaluating both the Oppo and the Marantz. Currently I'm trying to evoke harshness by playing all sorts of material, like Track01 of the "Schindler's List" sound track. It definitely sounds better straight from the Oppo to my Emotiva and Danleys: clearer, more detailed. Now playing Ottmar Liebert's "Nouveau Flamenco" which has plenty highs, having been re-mastered by Higher Octave Music. No sibilance or anything that I can detect, either from Oppo or Marantz.
post #2861 of 11320
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Originally Posted by Ettepet View Post

I compared "XLR in", "7.1 in" and Marantz DAC on my CAT12's. What do you want to know?

I'm still busy evaluating both the Oppo and the Marantz. Currently I'm trying to evoke harshness by playing all sorts of material, like Track01 of the "Schindler's List" sound track. It definitely sounds better straight from the Oppo to my Emotiva and Danleys: clearer, more detailed. Now playing Ottmar Liebert's "Nouveau Flamenco" which has plenty highs, having been re-mastered by Higher Octave Music. No sibilance or anything that I can detect, either from Oppo or Marantz.

Any CD, DVD, or even TV in pure direct mode is noticeably brighter then with with the equalizer/Audyssey engaged.
For this type of listening I recommend recordings that are NOT the best you have, but ones that are compressed and already bright.
Add any more and ears bleed. For example, Sara Barielles's Little Voice:

http://www.amazon.com/Little-Voice-Sara-Bareilles/dp/B000R7I3LY/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1360963192&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=sara+bareiiles

This is how I listen:
I set 6 feet from my each of my Revel Salons (equi-distant)
Toggle between Direct and Pure Direct.
See if there is a difference..

The added brightness is probably not a problem of any significance for anyone using equalization or bass management.
Audyssey is likely to correct it. But for me, even that was odd. It seems that engaging the equalizer removed much of the brightness and then Audyssey, added back in.
Adding for 1 up to 6DB from 1KHZ up. Even after that it was not as Bright as Source Direct.
Something does not add up here.

For 2 channel listening, I have full range speakers so a purer path sounds the best.
This is because the sound stage can get compressed when the signal is processed.
In the This is how I listen: section about, the change in sound stage is completely obvious.
This resulting loss whatever it is, resolution time coherence is not acceptable to me.

Again, there is not problem with the BDP-105 connected directly to my Sunfire AMP.
The sound is extremely detailed without the treble boost.
My replacement 8801 arrived yesterday, I hope to have time this weekend to hook it back up.

- Rich
post #2862 of 11320
As bad as I hate to be the one to do this and I will only post this once but it may do some a bit of good, The 8801 needs burn in time, Iv'e had my unit since Dec/ 13/ 2012 and Am happy to report that the harshness in the treble does indeed go away leaving the 8801 with sweet neutral pristine highs, I to was taken a back upon firing the 8801 up and hearing this it was why I'm happy I had the 105 as it was ok for movies ! over the weeks of letting a signal flow through it and the 105 it became apparent it would indeed need burn in and right along with the 105 it revealed an improved treble and upper mid-range as of to date the harshness is completely gone and please no one tell me I simply got use to it because I didn't, it simply improved ( keep in my my reference point is running the 105 direct to the amp) and the only way you will find out is to give it time to settle and hear for yourself and see why I post what I post about the reference SQ of the 8801 smile.gif
post #2863 of 11320
Quote:
Originally Posted by cadethoerk View Post

Ok here goes: I got the 8801 last saturday and spent the good part hooking it up and navigating the menus. The build quality is very nice and the unit feels solid with nice button action and sturdy flip down door. I did a variety of listening from BD to DVD-A to SACD to CD to Apple TV off network. I tested all modes prior to room correction calibration. All components hooked up HDMI with bitstream out from Oppo, DTV and Apple tv. The overall sound was more forward than my Integra DHC 9.9. Imaging and detail was good with vocals more pronounced and "in your face" The sound was a little harsh, abrasive "grain" for lack of a better description. I felt a little fatigue after a while. The all speaker stereo option made this characteristic worse. After calibration the "sphere of sound" was incredible with the system working seamlessly. The sound characteristic I describe never really went away, however the sound was more detailed than my current setup. I enjoy a more "laid back" sound and I ,don't feel I could get this from this unit in my system. SACD output from the Oppo bitstream decoded in pure direct was the best sound I heard from the system an enjoyed that. The other functional thing I missed was the large display on the front of the unit. The port hole look is interesting, but for me useless. I like to know what is going on "control freak" and did not want to keep the door open. I returned the unit and will try the Integra 80.3 however worry about the HDMI board caps failing over time. My 9.9 is limping along after 4 years of intense use and needs to be cycled a few time to get HDMI signal.
To be continued....

I hooked up my 8801 last night and had a similar first impression. I expected much better sound. Yes, the sound is more forward and detailed, but, it is harsh and fatiguing. I tried hard to like it; I played several of my reference movie scenes, but it just doesn't have the smooth, rich, dynamic sound of my Lexicon MC12B with v5EQ. I do like the bass better with the Marantz though. I am sure it is due to the Audyssey ARC.

I spent hours today reviewing this entire thread hoping to find something regarding a setting I may have incorrectly or inadvertently turned on.

It is too bad as I love the HDMI connectivity and switching which I don't currently have on my MC-12B. Also, with my Lex, I need to use the Oppo to decode HD DD and DTS and feed my MC-12 with the 5.1 analog inputs. However, even with all the outdated technology and having to use analog, the Lexicon MC-12B sounds much better to me. The Lexicon may be ten years old, but, it's still got the magic.

I was hoping to love it, but, it looks like I will be returning it.
post #2864 of 11320
+1 on the burn in. In a few weeks you won't believe how good it sounds.
post #2865 of 11320
what amp are you using?
post #2866 of 11320
@jdlynch, cadethoerk: It is like describing a completely different unit/model than mine. I hope RichB's replacement 8801 will help shed some light on this.

My own comparison of "Oppo => power amp" to "Oppo => Marantz => power amp" (easy enough to do) did not reveal any trebble boost, in either Direct, Pure Direct or with Audyssey engaged (Stereo mode), through neither my (active) Seaton speakers nor my (Emotiva driven) Danley speakers. Even on day one. If it did I would have returned the Marantz immediately.

Fortunately there are enough people here using the Marantz for this to remain a mystery for long.
post #2867 of 11320
I am using a Mcintosh MC207 and Dynaudio focus speakers in a 5.1 with Martin Logan Depth sub, all of which are not known to exhibit this trait. The only variable that changed is the processor. I am asking about the reliability of the Integra 80.3 HDMI board on that forum as my 9.9 is on the way out....
post #2868 of 11320
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Originally Posted by jdlynch View Post

I hooked up my 8801 last night and had a similar first impression. I expected much better sound. Yes, the sound is more forward and detailed, but, it is harsh and fatiguing. I tried hard to like it; I played several of my reference movie scenes, but it just doesn't have the smooth, rich, dynamic sound of my Lexicon MC12B with v5EQ. I do like the bass better with the Marantz though. I am sure it is due to the Audyssey ARC.

I spent hours today reviewing this entire thread hoping to find something regarding a setting I may have incorrectly or inadvertently turned on.

It is too bad as I love the HDMI connectivity and switching which I don't currently have on my MC-12B. Also, with my Lex, I need to use the Oppo to decode HD DD and DTS and feed my MC-12 with the 5.1 analog inputs. However, even with all the outdated technology and having to use analog, the Lexicon MC-12B sounds much better to me. The Lexicon may be ten years old, but, it's still got the magic.

I was hoping to love it, but, it looks like I will be returning it.

Be patient please! as the reward is coming I came from a similar setup with an Oppo 95 and an Anthem avm 20v2 which had a wamer SQ and when coupled with 95 via its 5.1 and balanced inputs it was indeed magic, tonally rich and dead neutral with an analog quality and to be honest I really didn't want to change the sound , But and I do mean But when the 8801 settles and iv'e posted this a lot here on AVS that even against the Sabre dac's that are to die for in the 105 the 8801 via its hdmi need not hold its head low at all and I posted that i could live with the 8801 processing all sources including my beloved 2/ch. Hang in there if you can! give it 29 of your 30 days at least as I would hate to see you miss out on an outstanding unit!
post #2869 of 11320
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Originally Posted by leadliner View Post

what amp are you using?

I'm using a Proceed HPA3 for the fronts, and, a Parasound HCA-1206 for the surrounds.
post #2870 of 11320
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdlynch View Post

I hooked up my 8801 last night and had a similar first impression. I expected much better sound. Yes, the sound is more forward and detailed, but, it is harsh and fatiguing. I tried hard to like it; I played several of my reference movie scenes, but it just doesn't have the smooth, rich, dynamic sound of my Lexicon MC12B with v5EQ. I do like the bass better with the Marantz though. I am sure it is due to the Audyssey ARC.

I spent hours today reviewing this entire thread hoping to find something regarding a setting I may have incorrectly or inadvertently turned on.

It is too bad as I love the HDMI connectivity and switching which I don't currently have on my MC-12B. Also, with my Lex, I need to use the Oppo to decode HD DD and DTS and feed my MC-12 with the 5.1 analog inputs. However, even with all the outdated technology and having to use analog, the Lexicon MC-12B sounds much better to me. The Lexicon may be ten years old, but, it's still got the magic.

I was hoping to love it, but, it looks like I will be returning it.

It's hard to give up your Lexicon, isn't it? smile.gif There's a few former Lexicon owners in this thread (I am one of them) who made the switch and haven't looked back. I assume you ran Audyssey and have disabled most of the EQ options (I only use Dynamic EQ)? Which surround mode do you use?
post #2871 of 11320
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Originally Posted by audiofan1 View Post

Be patient please! as the reward is coming I came from a similar setup with an Oppo 95 and an Anthem avm 20v2 which had a wamer SQ and when coupled with 95 via its 5.1 and balanced inputs it was indeed magic, tonally rich and dead neutral with an analog quality and to be honest I really didn't want to change the sound , But and I do mean But when the 8801 settles and iv'e posted this a lot here on AVS that even against the Sabre dac's that are to die for in the 105 the 8801 via its hdmi need not hold its head low at all and I posted that i could live with the 8801 processing all sources including my beloved 2/ch. Hang in there if you can! give it 29 of your 30 days at least as I would hate to see you miss out on an outstanding unit!

I have decided to give it some more time. I will add another adjective to what I am hearing; the Marantz sounds "thin" compared to my Lexicon MC-12B; The Lexicon just seems to have a rich and full-bodied sound. Please forgive my inability to express what I am hearing in meaningful words. I am optomistic the Marantz will maybe start to sound better, but, I was disappointed that I didn't have that "awe-inspiring" impression when I first heard it. Don't get me wrong; the Marantz sounds great. But, I just don't feel it is "quite" as good sounding as the Lexicon.

I will also add that upon unpackaging the unit I got the feeling that I was getting a low budget Japanese receiver.The build quality does not compare to my Lexicon.

Regardless, I still like the Marantz and hope that I will start to like it more. I love it's HDMI connectivity and switching, and, I do like the Audyssey ARC better than the Lexicons. To be fair to Marantz; I have had a Lexicon in my system for almost 15 years. I am sure I have acclaimated myself to the Lexicon sound and have subconsciously made that my reference.
post #2872 of 11320
I hooked up the new AV8801 and I am not sure it is much different.

Laura shay's bittersweet CD benefited by the birghtness.
Little Voice not so much. Here are my CD 2.0 listening results in pure direct mode:
HDMI is more balanced but less detailed.
COAX is BRIGHT with not enough weight in the lower end.
XLR is bright a bit more detail and low end.
7.1 retains all the detail, but is it ever bright !

exm, are you ready to add a possible issue?

excessive brightness on 7.1 inputs in Pure Direct.
Longer term users feel this goes away after burn-in.
However, a few have become concerned enough to return the unit.

- Rich
post #2873 of 11320
From my experience, "burn in" is just you getting used to the new sound. If you don't like it, and unless you actually have enabled something you shouldn't have, I would just return it. If you really want to keep it for the conveniences, switching, etc, then it could be a winner for you in the long run. But, it is not going to change... you might, though. Once you get used to the sound, it may be just fine. Just don't hook the Lexicon back up smile.gif

I went from the Integra 80.2 to the Marantz, but find both to be almost the same sonically. I have my Integra up for sale, but to be honest, keeping either at this point would be fine.
post #2874 of 11320
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Originally Posted by RichB View Post

I hooked up the new AV8801 and I am not sure it is much different.

Laura shay's bittersweet CD benefited by the birghtness.
Little Voice not so much. Here are my CD 2.0 listening results in pure direct mode:
HDMI is more balanced but less detailed.
COAX is BRIGHT with not enough weight in the lower end.
XLR is bright a bit more detail and low end.
7.1 retains all the detail, but is it ever bright !

exm, are you ready to add a possible issue?

excessive brightness on 7.1 inputs in Pure Direct.
Longer term users feel this goes away after burn-in.
However, a few have become concerned enough to return the unit.

- Rich

Rich,
Do you perceive a fuller more engaging sound with HDMI compared to thinner (more sterile), less involving sound with analog inputs?
post #2875 of 11320
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Originally Posted by AlxG View Post

Rich,
Do you perceive a fuller more engaging sound with HDMI compared to thinner (more sterile), less involving sound with analog inputs?

The HDMI is not as bright but it also less of everything.
Detail, bass and high end.
If you have an very bright CD, this can sound better.

But for me, no matter how bright, the detail and greater bass presented by the 7.1 inputs always makes it a winner.

- Rich
post #2876 of 11320
Don't forget that doing an effective job of applying Audyssey can be tricky.

At least one person who reported Audyssey was making things bright discovered that his subwoofer hadn't been calibrated properly. Be sure to check the subwoofer's level in the pre/pro. (see page 42 of the manual). If it's at -12dB, then the subwoofer's volume knob was set too high during the calibration. Audyssey turned down its gain as far as it could, but the subwoofer was still too loud. Turn the subwoofer's volume control down some more and recalibrate again until its level is closer to 0. While determining an appropriate subwoofer volume level, you only need to run the calibration for 1 microphone position. Then do a full 8 point calibration when the subwoofer's level is OK.

Others have had brightness problems if their speakers' tweeters were rather directional and some of the microphone positions were well off axis. Since Audyssey detected relatively low high frequency levels in the off-axis positions, it turned up the high frequency gain to compensate. Toeing in the speakers and reducing the spread of microphone positions helped significantly for the primary listening position.

Of course, changes that improve Audyssey's calibration won't help for the Direct and Pure Direct settings, or for the 7.1 channel analog inputs.

I hope these comments help a little, though.
post #2877 of 11320
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdlynch View Post

I have decided to give it some more time. I will add another adjective to what I am hearing; the Marantz sounds "thin" compared to my Lexicon MC-12B; The Lexicon just seems to have a rich and full-bodied sound. Please forgive my inability to express what I am hearing in meaningful words. I am optomistic the Marantz will maybe start to sound better, but, I was disappointed that I didn't have that "awe-inspiring" impression when I first heard it. Don't get me wrong; the Marantz sounds great. But, I just don't feel it is "quite" as good sounding as the Lexicon.

I will also add that upon unpackaging the unit I got the feeling that I was getting a low budget Japanese receiver.The build quality does not compare to my Lexicon.

Regardless, I still like the Marantz and hope that I will start to like it more. I love it's HDMI connectivity and switching, and, I do like the Audyssey ARC better than the Lexicons. To be fair to Marantz; I have had a Lexicon in my system for almost 15 years. I am sure I have acclaimated myself to the Lexicon sound and have subconsciously made that my reference.

Your description is dead on! But once it gets settled in the bass clarity will be matched by the mids and highs with retention of its hi resolution capability which is the plus over my previous setup, for movies and even multi ch sacd the use of the HT eq setting helped to tame the harshness ,but I no longer need it, the sound is full as one would expect from a Marantz product and as this a first Marantz product for me I'm well pleased with what they have done but from the out set of things I did have pause as well.
post #2878 of 11320
OK, it is getting late.
I did some quick experiments with the Center Channel since watching TV is DD 5.1 is fairly bright and I notice increased sibilance with the AV8801.

With my system, I believe the XLR connection is producing a thinner/brighter sound from the center channel.
I believe the sounds is better balanced when I repeated the Speaker Setup and set only the center channel to RCA and used an RCA connection.

So that begs two questions:

1) Are those of use experience brighter sounds using XLRs (I am)
2) Can you try some channels RCA after repeating the guided setup and selecting that mode?

Good night.

- Rich
post #2879 of 11320
Thanks Rich, will do some comparisons between outputs. I will also do some more direct comparisons between inputs and with/without Marantz on the same speakers.
post #2880 of 11320
Just curious if anyone has done any testing of M-DAX on the AV8801 . . .

Finally tried DLNA (using MonkeyMedia as my server) and AirPlay from my PC and both worked great. So just wondering what folks think of using M-DAX with compressed music files.

Most of my ripped files are MP3's @ 320kps (we use Flash drives in our cars for playing music and they just support WMA's and MP3's). Am I right in assuming the less you compress your music files the less that M-DAX will have an effect on them?
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