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Preliminary specs

The Highly Anticipated AV8801 Begins Shipping In December

SUPERIOR AUDIO PERFORMANCE
Copper plated chassis – A copper plated steel chassis creates a barrier for maximum isolation from external vibration as well as electromagnetic and radio frequency interference, allowing the AV8801 to communicate the most delicate audio program with absolute clarity. For even more rigidity, the top cover is made up of three individual pieces attached to both sides of the chassis. In addition, the AV8801 utilizes a double brace that attaches the front and back together for “tri box” construction which further strengthens the unit.

HDAM (Hyper Dynamic Amplifier Module) –High Speed, discrete (part-by­part), custom circuits that utilize Current Feedback in order to preserve fine musical detail. HDAM circuits are custom tuned to individual products and enhance performance in ways that no off-the-shelf component can. This patented technology is only utilized in our best products. For the AV8801, we use 13 HDAM devices specifically geared to providing the best sound possible.

The Toroidal Transformer- serves a dual purpose. First, it operates more efficiently enabling the power supply to flawlessly respond to demanding musical transients. Second, it produces less spurious magnetic energy which helps lower the noise floor for ultra-quiet operation.

Balanced XLR terminals – offer +40dB rejection of induced noise in the cable while providing a superior mechanical connection. The AV8801 incorporates dedicated balanced Inputs for sources such as SACD, making the UD7007 a perfect companion as it features balanced outputs.

Audyssey XT32 ‐ is the newest and most accurate room correction solution available today, with more than ten thousand individual control points allowing finer details of the room’s problems to be captured and corrected.

32bit /192k Digital to analog converter –With significantly higher resolution and wider dynamic range than a CD, audiophiles and music lovers will appreciate the analog-like textures that our DAC delivers.

Current Feedback Amplifier ‐ lowers distortion while leaving the music intact for a much more natural and realistic sonic presentation.

STREAMING SERVICES
- Airplay - Allows your iTunes library to be streamed from a PC, Mac, iPhone, iPad or iPod Touch. Since the protocol is already embedded in the iOS, you only need to launch the AirPlay icon to stream music to this AirPlay compatible device.
- Internet Radio - Over 10,000 radio stations broadcasting from around the world, many unique to the internet and commercial-free. Imagine listening to music or sports talk from your favorite home town radio station or the local news of a foreign country.
- Pandora- A unique service that automatically creates playlists based on a specific artist or song. Pandora is a great way to discover new music. There are two versions of Pandora (free & paid) and registration can be done online.
- Spotify- Ever wish you had a larger music library? Well, Spotify has over 15 million songs within its database and it continues to grow. Spotify puts the control in your hands allowing you to access specific artists and songs, create playlists, etc. Like Pandora, there are different versions of Spotify (free & paid)
- DLNA- Stream music directly from any Android device or play all the music you have stored on your PC, Mac®, NAS drive, etc that are connected to the home network.

FUTURE PROOF/CONVENIENCE

4k/2k Video - Displays are here and content is coming and the AV8801 is ready.
4-port Ethernet Hub - This built-in hub can be used for Ethernet-based products likeset-top-boxes, gaming consoles, and Blu-ray players and eliminates the hassle ofinstalling a 3rd party hub.
HDMI 6+1 in/ 2+1out (Dual HDMI out & Zone out) - More devices feature HDMI outputs, and with a total of 7 HDMI inputs the AV8801 can easily handle all of your different source components. With a two zone matrix HDMI output, you now have true two zone capability. We also have a 3rd HDMI output that will mirror the output of the main zone
InstaPrevue - Remember picture in picture? InstaPrevue allows the end user to preview content on each of the HDMI inputs.
Three Zone Audio - Each of the three audio zones can be controlled via IR, IP/App and/or RS232.
Integration - Because Marantz has strategic partnerships with all of the major control companies, you can be assured that both RS232 and IP protocol will be both reliable and lightning fast.
Shallow depth chassis, DC triggers, discrete IR commands and IR flasher inputs are among the features we have incorporated to insure that the installation goes smoothly.
Mobile App control with advanced media browsing - Whether you are a fan of Apple or Android, we have Apps that allow for full control of the AV8801. Both apps are elegant looking and easy to operate.
11.2-channel processing with DTS Neo:X & Audyssey DSX.
Edited by wse - 11/6/12 at 12:23pm
post #302 of 11327
Where are you guys planning to purchase your units; local retail, AVS, other?

Thinking really hard about this unit as my Integra 9.8 just dropped the HDMI board.
post #303 of 11327
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Originally Posted by 04FLHRCI View Post

Where are you guys planning to purchase your units; local retail, AVS, other? Thinking really hard about this unit as my Integra 9.8 just dropped the HDMI board.
Where I can get the best price biggrin.gif
post #304 of 11327
Now if only it doesn't have those crappy plastic panels flanking the aluminum panel on the front...
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Originally Posted by TL5 View Post

Now if only it doesn't have those crappy plastic panels flanking the aluminum panel on the front...

Where did you see that plastic at that price!
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^^^^ Hope it's not like the 7005/7701 in that regard, that's all.....
post #307 of 11327
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Originally Posted by 04FLHRCI View Post

Where are you guys planning to purchase your units; local retail, AVS, other?

Already have mine on order with my local Sound Advice.

Want to buy my NR-5008 or DTR 80.3?

I am already wired and have speakers connected for 11.2, maybe will have 11.2 for Xmas!!!
post #308 of 11327
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Originally Posted by 04FLHRCI View Post

Where are you guys planning to purchase your units; local retail, AVS, other?

Thinking really hard about this unit as my Integra 9.8 just dropped the HDMI board.

I normally get my Marantz equipment from their local dealer (not Best Buy). For me, the local dealer's additional services justify the higher price. Often enough they've done something extra for me at no additional cost. (Like drilling holes and mounting a projector mount on a shelf that I supplied.)
post #309 of 11327
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

11.2-channel processing with DTS Neo:X & Audyssey DSX.

Thanks for the specs, wse.

Slightly off-topic: for a typical 9.2 setup (front heights), is ProLogic IIz recommended over DTS Neo:X or Audyssey DSX? Any good information comparing these formats?
post #310 of 11327
There have a been a few discussions in the Audyssey thread regarding the comparison. Suggest posting there for more info.
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I just realized there's no mention of THX certification or features.
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Group buy option???
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Where I can get the best price biggrin.gif
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Here are some pics of the 8801. Looks like the list price is $3,599.99.







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Just got a note from a dealer who said Marantz will have a compelling package deal…purchase the AV8801 and MM8077 at the same time for just $4999 UAP; that’s almost $1000 off the pair.

Marantz told him they start shipping this month!!
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Wow, thanks for the pics. The spec list looks a bit sparse compared to the AV7701 but that chassis looks packed with gubbins.

If they're in people's hands this month we can finally find out how it sounds!

Sorry to be greedy, but any news on the MM8077? I'd love a guts pic of that too

K
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There is some info here:
http://hifiheaven.net/store/Marantz-MM8077-Current-Feedback-Amplifier

I have a MM7055 right now and this is a tempting upgrade, but for the price I may look at Parasound or Anthem.
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Originally Posted by 04FLHRCI View Post

Group buy option???

I like the idea at least 30% off smile.gif margins are 50 points so at $3600

It means dealer cost $1800, so a good price would be $2160 - $2520 max
Edited by wse - 11/6/12 at 3:18pm
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Originally Posted by discodol View Post

Here are some pics of the 8801. Looks like the list price is $3,599.99.




No plastic in sight biggrin.gif
post #319 of 11327
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Originally Posted by Tank_PD View Post

There is some info here:
http://hifiheaven.net/store/Marantz-MM8077-Current-Feedback-Amplifier
I have a MM7055 right now and this is a tempting upgrade, but for the price I may look at Parasound or Anthem.

Awesome! Thanks for the link! They both look quite pretty don't they. I'm a sucker for matching sets, so if I could have a AV8801, MM8077 and a UD7007 all in a rack I'd be happy.

At that price I'll do some research into the equivalent Parasound or Anthem, but here they probably charge a serious premium for them over domestic companies such as Marantz

In the MM8007 pictures the side panels do look a bit plasticy...

K
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This would be my preferred approach too; I like the local support infrastructure when needed.

I bought my 9.8 from one of the better dealers in the K.C. area; they have since closed shop and we're running low on good options in our market.
I refuse to do business with three of the 'known' Marantz dealers as they have each burned bridges with me over the past 25 years.

Looks to be a nice unit; MSRP is a little higher than I was hoping to see...I'll keep kicking the curb and look for additional authorized reps in the K.C. market.

Larry
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Originally Posted by Selden Ball View Post

I normally get my Marantz equipment from their local dealer (not Best Buy). For me, the local dealer's additional services justify the higher price. Often enough they've done something extra for me at no additional cost. (Like drilling holes and mounting a projector mount on a shelf that I supplied.)
post #321 of 11327
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Originally Posted by Kaorin View Post

Awesome! Thanks for the link! They both look quite pretty don't they. I'm a sucker for matching sets, so if I could have a AV8801, MM8077 and a UD7007 all in a rack I'd be happy.
At that price I'll do some research into the equivalent Parasound or Anthem, but here they probably charge a serious premium for them over domestic companies such as Marantz
In the MM8007 pictures the side panels do look a bit plasticy...
K

Yes, even the US, Anthem or Parasound will still be a bit more pricey and harder to come by than the Marantz. One of the nice things about the MM7055 is the short depth of only 13". The MM8077 looks similar in depth. Granted it is not as powerful as the other amps I'm considering (Anthem A5 or Parasound A51) it has a much smaller foot print. I'm not sure if it really matters as I can already watch movies at blistering loud levels.
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Originally Posted by Tank_PD View Post

Yes, even the US, Anthem or Parasound will still be a bit more pricey and harder to come by than the Marantz. One of the nice things about the MM7055 is the short depth of only 13". The MM8077 looks similar in depth. Granted it is not as powerful as the other amps I'm considering (Anthem A5 or Parasound A51) it has a much smaller foot print. I'm not sure if it really matters as I can already watch movies at blistering loud levels.

I'm in a similar position. I think a MM8077 would be more than enough for my house, a MM7055 probably would be too. Aside from the extra 2 channels why are you thinking of upgrading? I don't know much about amps, but would a MM8077 sound better or have more current reserve for delivering transients? Sorry if that's a noob question...

K
post #323 of 11327
On an other note getting 11 of these might be cool with the Marantz

http://www.whathifi.com/video/awards-2012-kef-ls50
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Originally Posted by Kaorin View Post

Sorry to be greedy, but any news on the MM8077?

The Marantz person said, "The Matching MM8077 7-channel amplifier is a perfect companion, and has many of the same power supply and build quality enhancements found in the AV8801. It’s priced at just $2395 UAP, and should be very competitive at that price point!"

Sorry that is all I have for you.
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Originally Posted by discodol View Post

The Marantz person said, "The Matching MM8077 7-channel amplifier is a perfect companion, and has many of the same power supply and build quality enhancements found in the AV8801. It’s priced at just $2395 UAP, and should be very competitive at that price point!"
Sorry that is all I have for you.

No worries. Thanks for the heads up.

I think Marantz should proof read their marketing stuff. The Hifi Heaven page has 'Nichicon' misspelt and claims that that the MM8077 has 2 x 50,000 *milli* Farads of reserve. The MM8003 had 2 x 50,000 *micro* farads, so either they made some serious progress on capacitors over the last 4 years, or someone needs to double check their SI unit prefixes. smile.gif

K
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Originally Posted by Kaorin View Post

I'm in a similar position. I think a MM8077 would be more than enough for my house, a MM7055 probably would be too. Aside from the extra 2 channels why are you thinking of upgrading? I don't know much about amps, but would a MM8077 sound better or have more current reserve for delivering transients? Sorry if that's a noob question...
K

I think they will sound the same or very, very similar. So much that I wouldn't be able to tell the difference if you swapped them out. The amps pricer than the MM7055 have some higher quality parts, such as a toroidal transformer, the MM7055 is EI core, higher current delivery / capacitance, etc. Mostly it is a pride of ownership and knowing I'm getting the most out of my speakers factor for me.
post #327 of 11327
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Originally Posted by Woof Woof View Post

If Marantz is the flagship, why isnt there a version of DenonLink? frown.gif

Then it would have to be called MarantzLink. I guess D&M thought it didn't sound as good (pardon the pun biggrin.gif) as DenonLink wink.gif.

Bill
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

No plastic in sight biggrin.gif

Looking at the pictures of the 8801 it looks the same as the SR7007 and the AV7701. By that I mean the front panel end caps are glass-reinforced resin (plastic). Plastic or no plastic the 8801 looks to be a very impressive prepro smile.gif.

Bill
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

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Originally Posted by Woof Woof View Post

If Marantz is the flagship, why isnt there a version of DenonLink? frown.gif

Then it would have to be called MarantzLink. I guess D&M thought it didn't sound as good (pardon the pun biggrin.gif) as DenonLink wink.gif.

Bill


Notice I said version.

Call it MLink or SE-Link. Whatever.

A rose by any other name.

DenonLink does work especially with MPCM BD, DVDA and SACD playback.
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Originally Posted by Tank_PD View Post

I think they will sound the same or very, very similar. So much that I wouldn't be able to tell the difference if you swapped them out. The amps pricer than the MM7055 have some higher quality parts, such as a toroidal transformer, the MM7055 is EI core, higher current delivery / capacitance, etc. Mostly it is a pride of ownership and knowing I'm getting the most out of my speakers factor for me.

I completely understand. If I bought the MM7055 now, I'd always feel that I cheaped out and a AVP of the calibre of the 8801 should be mated with it's sister power amp. Of course, the extra channels of the MM8077 would mean I wouldn't have to buy a MM7025 in the future to upgrade from 5.1 to 7.1. Maybe there's also peace of mind that you know you're getting two components that were designed together and in theory should be a perfect match.

As for the talk of plastic, I currently have a PM-15S1 (one of their reference series amps), and I honestly can't tell if it's plastic or metal. The material on the cheeks looks matte, whereas the front panel is more brushed aluminium. It kinda looks like plastic, but feels cold like the aluminium next to it. Maybe it's some kind of fancy paint injected plastic. My unit is in Champagne-gold, which I think makes a difference to the plasticy look. I saw the AV7005 and MM7055 (in black) in a store and immediately noticed the difference. What also didn't help was where people had left finger nail marks on the plastic bits. I guess I'll just have to keep a cleaning cloth handy to keep it looking nice smile.gif

K
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