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post #391 of 11304
I hardly ever notice the heights working. The wides a lot more.

But this is with DSX on my 4810
post #392 of 11304
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Originally Posted by DHF View Post

Is it really all that important to have the Height speakers and amp all the same as the fronts? I have never had height speakers befroe- so I am asking from anybody who has them. My fronts are...well...expensive and heavy. There would be a VERY low WAF on mounting something big and heavy up high.
Yeah, hanging B&W 800D upside down from the ceiling is a bit over the top... Hehe. Good practice is to pick speakers form the same range in a smaller format, so with the same tweeter and midrange.
post #393 of 11304
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Originally Posted by erwinfrombelgium View Post

Yeah, hanging B&W 800D upside down from the ceiling is a bit over the top... Hehe. Good practice is to pick speakers form the same range in a smaller format, so with the same tweeter and midrange.

Yes, especially since I have not actually mounted them, they are just hanging by a heavy gauge wire for now!



I am having a pair of Salk WOW1 http://www.salksound.com/wow1%20-%20home.htm that look like this made



to mount in the corners of the room and will be properly mounting the M1s about half way down the wall for the wides. For such a small smart looking package the M1s match my other speakers wonderfully. I am not really sure how the Salks can sound any better but they will sure look cool!

The WOW1 will be angled down 22 degrees and are aimed 45 degrees from the wall which will hit the sweet spot perfectly.

Once the 8801, external amps, and speakers are hung by the chimney with care that will put the final touches on my home theater and a huge dent in my credit profile.
Edited by discodol - 11/14/12 at 9:02am
post #394 of 11304
Found a great info sheet with large pictures and good product info http://www.tc-p65vt50.com/uploads/AV8801_MM8077_Product_Information.pdf
post #395 of 11304
Does anyone know if this unit comes with rack ears or can they be purchased separately?
post #396 of 11304
No upsampling in this unit, ulike the Denon???????
post #397 of 11304
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Originally Posted by Webmonkey View Post

No upsampling in this unit, ulike the Denon???????

Sorry but no upsampling what? Audio or Video or both?
post #398 of 11304
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Originally Posted by pgwalsh View Post

Does anyone know if this unit comes with rack ears or can they be purchased separately?

They are not included but you can buy them and they are likely the same as the ones for other models. I only have dealer pricing not retail as it is not listed.
post #399 of 11304
I posted this in the BG Radia trail and got no reply. I'm excited as hell about the AV-8801 but I have some questions about the system that I'm putting together. Any thoughts or comments would be appreciated.

I'm in the process of building a true dedicated media room for music and movies and have already installed 2 of the BG Radia BGX S-12B subwoofer modules on either side of the seating area and have the BGX A-2 amplifier to power these. I have wired the theater for 11.2 channels with the option of adding 2 more subs in the front of the room. The size of the theater is 24' long by 12 ' wide. Not huge but a great size for what my needs are. I'm at the point of ordering more equipment so I just ordered the screen (SI Black Diamond Zero Edge G2 with the wrap around LED lighting kit) in a 110" 2:35:1 format. I'll be installing one of the new JVC Pro projectors as soon as they hit the streets later this month. I'm going to be purchasing all Parasound Halo amps (A-31, A-21 and A-23's) in their new brushed metal black face plates to power the speakers. My questions are concerning the BG Radia speakers that I think I'm leaning toward. I'm looking at the FS-420's for the left and right and the CC-220 center channel that matches that. Also leaning toward the IC-201's for the height channels and SS-202's for surrounds and SA-200's for rears. Haven't decided on the width channels yet. How does this system compare to a full Martin Logan system (Ethos or Theos for left and right fronts and the Motif for the center and Edge, Axis and Vanquish for rears, surrounds, height and width speakers. Here are my questions;

1) Has anyone out there compared the two different speaker company selections?
2) Does anyone think that I will need more subwoofers for movies in that size room (roughly 650 square feet) and if so, can I go with some stand alone smaller subs to blend in with the BGX system?
3) For control, I'm leaning toward Pro Control, Roomie Remote or Gefen GAVA along with the Lutron RadioRa2 system for lighting control via RS-232. Any thoughts on that?
4) Any suggestions for in ceiling width channels from BG?

Thanks for any help in advance!!
post #400 of 11304
I think this thread should be called "Official everything but Av8801 thread"... cool.gif
post #401 of 11304
Yep SimpleSU. Those questions, although solid kind of fall in the speaker comparison column area or some type of "How to build a media room" area. Those are very specific speaker questions that no one here, except by chance, would have experience giving good advice on.
post #402 of 11304
No prob. Thanks!
post #403 of 11304
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Originally Posted by Ian13 View Post

Sorry but no upsampling what? Audio or Video or both?

audio :-) - The Denon AVR-4520 touts 32-bit audio upsampling on all channels...
post #404 of 11304
In 2005 I bought a Marantz SR-8500 receiver. It was the last receiver in the Marantz line to employ DVI, so I must use Kimber PBJ cables to send multichannel audio to the analog multichannel input on the receiver.

For the front speakers (Apogee Mini-Grands), I use it as a preamp. I power the full range ribbon panels with a Llano A-100 (100wpc pure class A). The M-G's have an analog electronic crossover that divides the subs which are built into each panel's base. The subs have two 8 inch Vifa woofers on each side, and are powered by an Acurus A-150.

I use the SR-8500 as a receiver to power my Apogee Persius LCR (center channel) and Apogee Centaur Minors (rear channels). Technically my system is a 5.0 setup, with all speakers set to full range. As it is today sounds awesome.

However, I've wanted to upgrade to a pre/pro with HDMI, the latest audio codecs, and room correction for about five years. I didn't buy the AV-8003 because it only had Audyssey MultiEQ. When the Av-7005 came out, I almost pulled the trigger. But by then XT32 was available, and since I have two subs, I waited hoping Marantz would finally catch up and release a pre/pro with it.

Today I ordered the AV-8801/MM8077 combination from a local dealer. He had no info as to when to expect delivery, but the online dealers I spoke to said that delivery was to start the first or second week of December. My local dealer matched the promo combo price, and matched the online dealers by eating the sales tax.

I expect a really noticeable improvement with my Mini-Grands due to the use of the Audyssey crossover replacing the Apogee DAX, which has always been considered to be the weakest part of the MG system.

I will now be using HDMI to connect my Oppo BDP-93 to the pre/pro. That should also be a noticeable improvement. I expect the A/D conversion in the Marantz to be better than that of the base model Oppo. Also, for the first time (I hope) I will be able to stream DSD from the OPPO to the AV-8801. I'd like to hear what direct DSD to analog conversion sounds like. By the way, I didn't get the BDP-95, with its better analog stage because I expected to upgrade to a pre/pro with HDMI. I had to wait over a year, but my patience will save me $500.

The Audyssey Sub EQ HT should also help a lot, because as noted above, I have two subs and their positions are fixed under my ribbon panels. I run my current system with no EQ at all. The only thing I have set is the speaker size (all large/full range) and distance. Outside of improved bass, I wonder how much overall improvement I'll get with XT32.

I'll be selling my receiver and the Acurus A-150. The MM-8077 will now power the subs, center channel, and surround channels. I will likely hear some improvement due to the better quality (toroidal transformer, audiophile grade caps) on the new amp.

I am more of an audiophile than a videophile, though I do love my system as a home theater. I will try a pair of wides for movies using Audyssey DSX. I doubt I'll use the wides for music, though.

Bottom line... $5k is a huge investment for me, but I expect it to pay off. As soon as I receive my new pets, I'll post my impressions.

Steven
post #405 of 11304
This site as a good front and back of the Marantz AV8801

http://hearnoevilhifi.com/12523/marantz-av8801-audio-videophile-preprocessor/
post #406 of 11304
Try this post on the 1st page of this thread for a much better picture of the rear. Click on the picture to view it in full size. cool.gif
post #407 of 11304
Ordered mine as well wink.gif Goodbye 4311CI, Hello AV8801.
post #408 of 11304
I wish I was as brave as some of you jumping right in. I'll be waiting on feedback before I commit. Hopefully you will all share your experiences.
post #409 of 11304
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Originally Posted by Geronimo.USMC View Post

Ordered mine as well wink.gif Goodbye 4311CI, Hello AV8801.

Yeah, me too. For the first time in my life I'm an early adopter, lol!. I never do this, preferring to wait and see how the reviews and user experiences go, let them work out the kinks, yadda yadda. Not this time. Money burning a hole in my pocket, been waiting forever to pull the trigger on a new HT processor, and this one has everything I need (almost). I came close to the Mcintosh MX150, the Krell S1200, the Bryston SP3, etc, but none of them gave me the best one-box solution. So I'm splitting it up and going with this unit for HT (and finally XT32), and a separate preamp for 2 channel.

All in all, the chances of Marantz missing the mark with this one are fairly remote. Nothing very new here. So here we go!
post #410 of 11304
I don't think this is a huge early adopter risk either. Really, it's the guts of the 4520 with Marantz upgraded parts and no amplifier. Having said that, I probably will not be making the move to this Pre until early spring. I will read the reviews and comments here and absorb all I can about Neo X, Audyssey LFE, and whatever you people have to say. Any info is much appreciated. I was a super early 4311 adopter and it has been a Fantastic AVR.
Edited by SeattleHTGuy - 11/21/12 at 1:29pm
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post #412 of 11304
Have any photos shown the front panel open yet? I love all the features but that dang tiny little porthole display sure bugs me. Wondering if it has a better internal display and if so if the front panel door can be just left open or removed.
post #413 of 11304
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Originally Posted by Mark Harrison View Post

From the Marantz usa webpage
http://us.marantz.com/DocumentMaster/US/mz_av8801_u_eng_bg001.pdf

The AV8801 page is live at Marantz.com. In addition to the above .pdf, the owner's manual is online too. Unfortunately it's too big for me to download at work, but I'd be interested if there's any tidbits of info in it. The product spec sheet above was a bit lacking in any real information. I mean what exactly is 'New smoothest edge video interpolation'? Is there anything new over the 4520?

http://us.marantz.com/us/Products/Pages/ProductDetails.aspx?CatId=AVSeparates&SubCatId=0&ProductId=AV8801

Kaorin
post #414 of 11304
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Originally Posted by PeterK View Post

Have any photos shown the front panel open yet? I love all the features but that dang tiny little porthole display sure bugs me. Wondering if it has a better internal display and if so if the front panel door can be just left open or removed.

Hi-res photos of the AV8801 are now on the Marantz site. Including this one with the front panel open

http://us.marantz.com/Assets/images/products/AV8801/XL_av8801_u_b_st_op.jpg


A lovely high res photo of the back panel is also online

http://us.marantz.com/Assets/images/products/AV8801/XL_av8801_u_b_re.jpg

Kaorin
post #415 of 11304
Thanks for posting this Kaorin...much appreciated. I think this is going to be my next pre/pro....my Lex MC12HD is getting a little old now.
post #416 of 11304
It’s my understanding that AV8801 is based on the AVR-4520 platform. Can someone confirm if the 5.1 (bi-amp) configuration mode is missing in the AV8801?
post #417 of 11304
The AV 8801 has no amps
post #418 of 11304
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Originally Posted by AlxG View Post

It’s my understanding that AV8801 is based on the AVR-4520 platform. Can someone confirm if the 5.1 (bi-amp) configuration mode is missing in the AV8801?

These are different machines that share the same platform to a point, it depends on how far you strip it down and build it back up and with what ! but in the end its an entirely different beast and i'm looking for more for my money than a pre/processor than an avr with out amps, which looks like the 8801 will deliever:D
post #419 of 11304
We interrupt the normal programming on this thread for these special breaking news: It's official... it's here!

The AV8801 is now listed on both the US and Canadian websites with all the photos, brochures and manuals ready for download.
The MSRP in the US, as some rumors claimed, is set at $3,599.99. No pricing mentioned on the Canadian site.
Please don't download all at the same time. biggrin.gif
Edited by jam88 - 11/22/12 at 5:46pm
post #420 of 11304
Interesting that the Specs in the manual are the same for digital and analogue sources as the 7701, I think there might be a second revision manual soon.
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