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post #6271 of 11315
^^^ damn....I hope there is not a widespread problem with the triggers on the 8801!
post #6272 of 11315
And I hope it's not an overheating problem. I've kept a fan on mine ever since (about 6 months ago) I noticed she runs nearly as warm as some amps and receivers I've had. IMO I think it should of had an internal fan. I'm not saying it's a problem just that she runs warm.
Edited by comfynumb - 6/18/13 at 8:45am
post #6273 of 11315
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Originally Posted by TL5 View Post

^^^ damn....I hope there is not a widespread problem with the triggers on the 8801!

Are other owners having issues with the triggers?

I was able to get the connected unit to turn back on by toggling the trigger off then back on in the trigger setup screen for the source. I used my system for another 30 minutes without issue. Just very concerned that it shutoff in the first place.

Thanks
post #6274 of 11315
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Did you hit the remote on accident or is it a gremlin!
I was home alone & I never touched the remote. Cue Twilight Zone music.
post #6275 of 11315
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Originally Posted by akopperl View Post

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Originally Posted by TL5 View Post

^^^ damn....I hope there is not a widespread problem with the triggers on the 8801!

Are other owners having issues with the triggers?

I was able to get the connected unit to turn back on by toggling the trigger off then back on in the trigger setup screen for the source. I used my system for another 30 minutes without issue. Just very concerned that it shutoff in the first place.

Thanks

this is an issue I recently experienced as well: sometimes if you toggle a trigger on the GUI it does not always 'take'

I was changing triggers for zone 2 and later I noticed my amp was not turning on for main zone: I checked main zone triggers and noticed one was toggled off: perhaps it was my error

so before you panic check these settings carefully: also keep in mind there are two triggers...
post #6276 of 11315
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I'm glad your issues are solved. In using the 93 do you notice any better audio or video quality with the 103?

Not really, I thought they were on par to be honest.
post #6277 of 11315
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Not really, I thought they were on par to be honest.



Thanks. I'm trying to wait it out for the next generation Oppo. Who knows there could be a 4K disc the way things are going with what looks like an all day download for a single movie.
post #6278 of 11315
I'm not going to worry about the triggers. I think it sounds better when I manually shut it off: the harmonic pacing is more supple.
post #6279 of 11315
Chiming in since I've been lurking this thread as a 8801 owner, the 12v trigger works fine switching my Halo A51 thus far....but I haven't had the system hooked up for more than a month so time will tell. Couple observations about this preamp:

1) The thing gets really hot IMO for a processor. I have it sitting inside my BDI stand in the center column by itself with the back completely open and 6" of space all around the unit and it seems to get much hotter than my A51 hah. Doesn't seem to affect operation though.

2) I've had a couple audio drop outs watching content from my BDP-93.....very rare and happens @ random times. Nothing to do with heat since it's done it once when I turned the unit on for no more than 5 minutes. I switched the HDMI cable (whole setup = monoprice redmere hdmi cables) and haven't heard a drop yet. Will keep an eye on it.

3) The networking feature wreaks havoc on my home network. First off, when I connect it to the switch for that setup (tv, roku, oppo etc connects to it just fine), it obtains an ip address but cannot access the internet. I had to bridge a connection through my laptop and cellphone for the firmware upgrade (worked fine). But when I leave it connected, it disables everything that's connected via cables on my home network.....doesn't seem to play nice with my cable modem/router box. So I just leave it disconnected for now.....no real features I guess anyway for what I use the unit for.

4) Have not used Audyssey yet and just balanced the levels on the speakers/subs.....thus far it's been a real joy. Enjoyed the Eagles Melbourne Tour BD last night and had a blast. Nothing to complain about the SQ and PQ IMO since I turn off all processing on the preamp and I don't think there is a real difference connecting it directly to the plasma.

bwv1080, hope you get the trigger thing resolved.....I couldn't get the A51 to work properly with the sensitivity feature on auto on.....would need it to be real sensitive to turn on and it turns itself off during quiet scenes in the movie hah.
post #6280 of 11315
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I'm not going to worry about the triggers. I think it sounds better when I manually shut it off: the harmonic pacing is more supple.

My amp is always on, due to 2-3 hour warmup time.
post #6281 of 11315
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I think it sounds better when I manually shut it off: the harmonic pacing is more supple.


Haha, umm wha???
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Haha, umm wha???

I was just practicing in case The Absolute Sound needs a new reviewer. smile.gif
post #6283 of 11315
Been toying with the idea of getting this piece. Seems to be trigger issues with it. Not encouraging. My amps require stereo mini trigger cable.
post #6284 of 11315
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I was just practicing in case The Absolute Sound needs a new reviewer. smile.gif

Good save biggrin.gif
post #6285 of 11315
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Originally Posted by Waboman View Post

Been toying with the idea of getting this piece. Seems to be trigger issues with it. Not encouraging. My amps require stereo mini trigger cable.

I've had my 8801 since Dec 13th (first batch) and its so far a solid piece of gear and I must admit I'm very impressed with its functionality , construction and reliability. SQ is outstanding and support thus far is up there with the best. wink.gif
post #6286 of 11315
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I've had my 8801 since Dec 13th (first batch) and its so far a solid piece of gear and I must admit I'm very impressed with its functionality , construction and reliability. SQ is outstanding and support thus far is up there with the best. wink.gif

That's good to hear. Thanks for the feedback.
post #6287 of 11315
Still considering going to the Marantz from my 80.2. I do use two triggers in my system. . I note that when Rich's trigger failed, he measured 9 volts. Both my Outlaw Amp and Panamax 5400 triggers say they will work with. 3-24 volts DC.

For the one's that are failing , do the Amps require 12 volts?

Joel
post #6288 of 11315
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Originally Posted by audiofan1 View Post

I've had my 8801 since Dec 13th (first batch) and its so far a solid piece of gear and I must admit I'm very impressed with its functionality , construction and reliability. SQ is outstanding and support thus far is up there with the best. wink.gif



I was about 3 and a half weeks after you. I'm assuming it was the first batch and although I don't use the triggers everything else has worked perfect. No update issues and nothing I've noticed. I think the trigger issue could be partially human error (I said could be) read markrubins post up above. The 8801 does so much I think you could have this thing for a year and find out it does something new, so if I missed something I would not be surprised. If there is a glitch I think everyone having the problem should email Marantz. My two cents.
Edited by comfynumb - 6/18/13 at 3:09pm
post #6289 of 11315
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Originally Posted by jmschnur View Post

Still considering going to the Marantz from my 80.2. I do use two triggers in my system. . I note that when Rich's trigger failed, he measured 9 volts. Both my Outlaw Amp and Panamax 5400 triggers say they will work with. 3-24 volts DC.

For the one's that are failing , do the Amps require 12 volts?

Joel

Some do some don't. My A51 and Outlaw 7500 would not trigger when it broke.

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Originally Posted by comfynumb View Post

I was about 3 and a half weeks after you. I'm assuming it was the first batch and although I don't use the triggers everything else has worked perfect. No update issues and nothing I've noticed. I think the trigger issue could be partially human error (I said could be) read markrubins post up above. The 8801 does so much I think you could have this thing for a year and find out it does something new, so if I missed something I would not be surprised. If there is a glitch I think everyone having the problem should email Marantz. My two cents.

Not for me. One day it worked, the next it did not.
A trigger is about as set it and forget it as they come.

- Rich
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Originally Posted by RichB View Post

Some do some don't. My A51 and Outlaw 7500 would not trigger when it broke.
Not for me. One day it worked, the next it did not.
A trigger is about as set it and forget it as they come.

- Rich



I forgot about yours going bad awhile back. You would think after generations of this being a feature that they would get it right.
post #6291 of 11315
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I forgot about yours going bad awhile back. You would think after generations of this being a feature that they would get it right.

It could have been the heat.
There were also grounding problems when the plug was not making a good connection.

Weren't others on this thread that had trigger problems?

- Rich
post #6292 of 11315
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And I hope it's not an overheating problem. I've kept a fan on mine ever since (about 6 months ago) I noticed she runs nearly as warm as some amps and receivers I've had. IMO I think it should of had an internal fan. I'm not saying it's a problem just that she runs warm.

I noticed this A/V processor runs a bit warmer than I expected too - it gets much warmer than my XPR-5 amplifier!
So I put a pair of these on top (triggered by the thermostat in the amp cabinet below), and they keep it 'cool as a cucumber'! smile.gif
http://www.coolerguys.com/codublfancoc.html
post #6293 of 11315
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Originally Posted by Mad Norseman View Post

I noticed this A/V processor runs a bit warmer than I expected too - it gets much warmer than my XPR-5 amplifier!
So I put a pair of these on top (triggered by the thermostat in the amp cabinet below), and they keep it 'cool as a cucumber'! smile.gif
http://www.coolerguys.com/codublfancoc.html

Amps like yours and my A21 produce more heat but spread it around better.
I measured the top rear of the AV8801 at 126 with an infrared thermometer.
The shelf it sits on is open in the front and back, but the temperature on the shelf hits 92 degrees.

The AV8801 should be able to operate in that environment but just in case I put a GELID Solutions Slim 12 UV BLUE 120mm Case Fan blowing across the top. The top is fairly cool and the same spot dropped to no more than 108 F.

I tried a white fan, but the blue one seems to match the lights of the AV8801 and A51 better.

- Rich
post #6294 of 11315
Do you guys know what the three bars are on the display? I can't remember them being there.


post #6295 of 11315
Nvmind. Got it. That's zone 2,3, and 4 powered on for some reason.
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Do you guys know what the three bars are on the display? I can't remember them being there.



Those are all the zones you have on.
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Originally Posted by RichB View Post

It could have been the heat.
There were also grounding problems when the plug was not making a good connection.

Weren't others on this thread that had trigger problems?

- Rich



It looks like some are now.
post #6298 of 11315
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Originally Posted by Mad Norseman View Post

I noticed this A/V processor runs a bit warmer than I expected too - it gets much warmer than my XPR-5 amplifier!
So I put a pair of these on top (triggered by the thermostat in the amp cabinet below), and they keep it 'cool as a cucumber'! smile.gif
http://www.coolerguys.com/codublfancoc.html



It does run pretty warm and I need a pair of these. Thanks for the link.
post #6299 of 11315
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Originally Posted by Waboman View Post

Been toying with the idea of getting this piece. Seems to be trigger issues with it. Not encouraging. My amps require stereo mini trigger cable.

Hey there, mi amigo!!smile.gif

So far I have been VERY happy with the 8801! I've had it for close to 3 months now and have not had a single issue with the 12v triggers.smile.gif
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Originally Posted by comfynumb View Post

It does run pretty warm and I need a pair of these. Thanks for the link.

You're very welcome!
I use one of these to control the on/off action of the two blower fans (there's a USB powered version of the same thing available):
http://www.coolerguys.com/840556090885.html
It also has a manual on/off, but I like the programmable feature so I can adjust the 'temp On' & 'temp Off' settings with the seasons...
I've got this same temperature controller running a 140mm cabinet fan for the amp compartment, as it will take up to four fan plug ins.
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