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post #6571 of 11283
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Originally Posted by comfynumb View Post

The concerns I had with high res and Audyssey and the 8801 were outweighed by the fact that XT32 does a great job.

+1.
post #6572 of 11283
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Originally Posted by comfynumb View Post

The 8801 head to head with a $7,500 pre/pro? I ain't scart biggrin.gif just the talk of of the Marantz being in the mix with a D2V is pretty exciting to me smile.gif either way I won't be trading mine anytime soon wink.gif


Agreed.

Following the D2V thread for quite a while, it seems that there was always something not working right that was going to require a firmware fix.
post #6573 of 11283
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Originally Posted by gbaby View Post

ESS DACs does not ensure a great sounding preamp. wink.gif

They did in the oppo 95 and 105 tongue.gifbiggrin.gif
post #6574 of 11283
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

Agreed.

Following the D2V thread for quite a while, it seems that there was always something not working right that was going to require a firmware fix.

If its one thing I will give Anthem is there first class support for their gear in fact right up there with the likes of Parasound and Oppo ! Its well made and you'll get your money's worth before needing to replace it wink.gif
post #6575 of 11283
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Originally Posted by gbaby View Post

ESS DACs does not ensure a great sounding preamp. wink.gif

I agree but they take some effort to impement and Yamaha has a good track record.

- Rich
Edited by RichB - 7/3/13 at 11:29am
post #6576 of 11283
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

This is not a polarity issue.  Regardless of US vs. European wiring of pins 2+3 which affect polarity, pin 1 is ground.  Grounding any other pin will have a significant effect on signal output and on system grounding.
Thanks for the reply. Is it an idea to switch the speakercables from - to + and vica verca to hear if it makes a difference in the setup, and see if Audyssey checks it out ok?
post #6577 of 11283
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Originally Posted by RichB View Post

I agree but they take some effort to impement and Yamaha has a good track record.

- Rich

This is going to be interesting, I just wonder why it's took so long, perhaps the with gear like the 8801 and Oppo's now in my and i'm sure many others personal "Hall of Fame of Legendary gear" 95 and now 105(love me some Sabre dac's ) biggrin.gif punching well beyond their price tag in the territory of the big boys have help stoke the fire a bit , I was glad to see Onkyo/ Integra stay the course and hold down the real world pre/pro and not to mention Marantz's efforts with the 8003 and well regarded 7001 as well, but I will say the market indeed is coming alive and its going to be a good time for music and movie lovers cool.gif
post #6578 of 11283
Good points audiofan1, and I think you hit it right on the head. I believe that some high end AV makers nearly crapped themselves twice in the last 5 years. Once with the Oppo bdp83 and once with the Marantz 7005, both had features and performance never before heard of in their price range.These helped pave the way for some "lucky to be us" times wink.gif
post #6579 of 11283
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Originally Posted by comfynumb View Post

Good points audiofan1, and I think you hit it right on the head. I believe that some high end AV makers nearly crapped themselves twice in the last 5 years. Once with the Oppo bdp83 and once with the Marantz 7005, both had features and performance never before heard of in their price range.These helped pave the way for some "lucky to be us" times wink.gif

+1
post #6580 of 11283
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Originally Posted by audiofan1 View Post

They did in the oppo 95 and 105 tongue.gifbiggrin.gif

The Yamaha CX-A5000 has the ES9016 DAC that is more comparable to those in the 8801 but not as good as the 95/105's 9018.

http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/aventage/cx-a5000_black_u/?mode=model

The list price of $2,999.95 is definitely more enticing than the Marantz.
post #6581 of 11283
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Originally Posted by avman09 View Post

The Yamaha CX-A5000 has the ES9016 DAC that is more comparable to those in the 8801 but not as good as the 95/105's 9018.

http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/aventage/cx-a5000_black_u/?mode=model

The list price of $2,999.95 is definitely more enticing than the Marantz.

True! but let's not get ahead of ourselves biggrin.gif the 8801 is no slouch in the dac department by a long shot as they've been implemented extremely well. I don't even use my 105 for multi/ch and that includes sacd eek.gif only 2/ch and do occasionally listen to stereo via hdmi with the 8801 dishing out some good sounding stuff.
Plu there are also many other things that would still lean me towards the 8801 even at full price wink.gif

Don't get me wrong, I still want to hear more about the Yammy !
post #6582 of 11283
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Originally Posted by avman09 View Post

The Yamaha CX-A5000 has the ES9016 DAC that is more comparable to those in the 8801 but not as good as the 95/105's 9018.

http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/aventage/cx-a5000_black_u/?mode=model

The list price of $2,999.95 is definitely more enticing than the Marantz.



That looks nice. It will be interesting to see the pro reviews on the Yamaha.
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I am most interested in the CX-A5000 vs the 8801 but also the Krell Foundation. Right now the 8801 is the champ to beat for my pricerange but I also consider the MX-151 the benchmark. The Yamaha not having XLRs for the subs seems like a gross mis-step.
post #6584 of 11283
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Originally Posted by jima4a View Post

I am most interested in the CX-A5000 vs the 8801 but also the Krell Foundation. Right now the 8801 is the champ to beat for my pricerange but I also consider the MX-151 the benchmark. The Yamaha not having XLRs for the subs seems like a gross mis-step.



So many good choices these days, high end sound is not exclusive to the rich and famous anymore smile.gif
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With people not knowing what they were missing with the Marantz before the Secrets article it makes you wonder how many more enjoyments there would be in hi fi land if there were no specs and pieces parts listed for gear and people just based their opinions on the experience and not the hyperbole. Especially since most home in on a single part thinking it is the determining factor when really most of what is inside matters as they all have to play together.
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Originally Posted by jfinneru View Post


Thanks for the reply. Is it an idea to switch the speakercables from - to + and vica verca to hear if it makes a difference in the setup, and see if Audyssey checks it out ok?

Mebbe but if a pin other than 1 is grounded, I would just replace it.

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Originally Posted by Kris Deering View Post

With people not knowing what they were missing with the Marantz before the Secrets article it makes you wonder how many more enjoyments there would be in hi fi land if there were no specs and pieces parts listed for gear and people just based their opinions on the experience and not the hyperbole. Especially since most home in on a single part thinking it is the determining factor when really most of what is inside matters as they all have to play together.

Well said.  However, for those not in the industry, it is often difficult to arrange the kind of auditions which would provide such an experience..

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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

Well said.  However, for those not in the industry, it
 is often difficult to arrange the kind of auditions which would provide such an experience..

Yup! around these parts we just throw"em in the water and say ok ! swim biggrin.gif

Having said that, its really a melancholy thing , as I really miss getting demo's locally as most of the stuff I'm interested in these days are more than a few hundred miles away or on the internet only .
post #6589 of 11283
A question on "Video Conversion", page 129 in the manual says if "ON" the video signal is converted in conjunction with the connected TV.

I am not sure what this means, but when I set it to "OFF" I loose my on screen display (i.e. Volume Up/Down). From page 7 it appears to convert
signals that come in as other than HDMI to and HDMI output, what I am not sure is what does it do when a 480P signal is inputted via HDMI.

In other words by having this set to "ON" is it doing anything to a 480P HDMI input to the 8801 connected to a 1080P projector via HDMI or is it only converting
non-hdmi inputs to an HDMI output?

Also why do I loose my on screen display when it is set to "OFF", nothing in the manual state that would happen?
post #6590 of 11283
Well, I've been using my 8801 for over three months now, and I've gotta tell ya, It's one AWESOME sounding pre/pro!smile.gif I was watching Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole the other night, and the soundfield was just WOW! And the LFE was deep and powerful! I was very impressed with what I heard! And that goes for a great number of Blu-ray's I've watched! The 8801 hasn't missed a lick! And so far so good with zero issues. I hope this unit lasts me a long time, because I'm enjoying it very much! This says volumes from a guy coming from a Denon AVP!

Just wanted to share!wink.gif
post #6591 of 11283
So.... anyone come from a d2v to the av8801?

anyone...... anyone....... anyone
post #6592 of 11283
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Originally Posted by matthewa View Post

Got home and looked at the cables that I had made and the extension side by side looks like my electrician soldered the earth to an outer pin then wired the two wires to pin 1&2 rather than pin 2&3. I am betting money this is the problem the thing that is so annoying that he has made up 14 cables which means 28 ends to correct

Once I get it changed I'll let you guys know for sure, but is looking like a wetware error!

Hi Guys,

Wiring was the issue. Got them re-done and everything is now working. Need to re-run RC but even now with a quick SPL match the system is back sounding great.

Thanks to all for their troubleshooting advice, much appreciated

Matt
post #6593 of 11283
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Originally Posted by baranowski View Post

So.... anyone come from a d2v to the av8801?

anyone...... anyone....... anyone



There are some guys coming from the Anthem, maybe they'll comment.
post #6594 of 11283
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Originally Posted by baranowski View Post

Has anyone here come from the Anthem statement D2v or the D2v3d to the marantz av8801? i an curious about hearing how they differ on your system.

Thank you,
Bill

I just switched from a D2 - is that interesting?
post #6595 of 11283
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Originally Posted by matthewa View Post

Hi Guys,

Wiring was the issue. Got them re-done and everything is now working. Need to re-run RC but even now with a quick SPL match the system is back sounding great.

Thanks to all for their troubleshooting advice, much appreciated

Matt



Success finally, congrats! So standard XLR"s were the ticket?
post #6596 of 11283
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Originally Posted by ohyeah32 View Post

Well, I've been using my 8801 for over three months now, and I've gotta tell ya, It's one AWESOME sounding pre/pro!smile.gif I was watching Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole the other night, and the soundfield was just WOW! And the LFE was deep and powerful! I was very impressed with what I heard! And that goes for a great number of Blu-ray's I've watched! The 8801 hasn't missed a lick! And so far so good with zero issues. I hope this unit lasts me a long time, because I'm enjoying it very much! This says volumes from a guy coming from a Denon AVP!

Just wanted to share!wink.gif



I love the passion people have for the 8801, and have to agree it is something when it comes to BD's. Wow is the word smile.gif
post #6597 of 11283
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

Well said.  However, for those not in the industry, it
 is often difficult to arrange the kind of auditions which would provide such an experience..



Kal this is exactly why many of us look to you pro reviewers before we buy anything, especially with brick and mortar AV businesses disappearing. Although I did buy the 8801 before any reviews were out, it was the reviews of the 7005 that made me feel confident with my purchase.
post #6598 of 11283
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Originally Posted by comfynumb View Post

Success finally, congrats! So standard XLR"s were the ticket?
Yes correct pin's
post #6599 of 11283
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Originally Posted by Kris Deering View Post

With people not knowing what they were missing with the Marantz before the Secrets article it makes you wonder how many more enjoyments there would be in hi fi land if there were no specs and pieces parts listed for gear and people just based their opinions on the experience and not the hyperbole. Especially since most home in on a single part thinking it is the determining factor when really most of what is inside matters as they all have to play together.

Agreed. It is not just the DAC which for me is a short-hand for the Digital to analog signal handling.
On thing that bothers me about many of the mega-featured preamps is they sound much different when you engage any processing.
I have even found that using the AV8801 7.1 analog in's chaning HDMI settings affects the sound Pure Direct mode.

Changing from Pure Direct to Straight on the Yamaha 820 receiver also produces a significant change in the sound.

I suppose after the DAC counts as much or more wink.gif

- Rich
post #6600 of 11283
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Originally Posted by comfynumb View Post

There are some guys coming from the Anthem, maybe they'll comment.

I hope so
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