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need advice if Plasma suit to me

post #1 of 8
Thread Starter 
Hi,

I am new to AVS and even new to Plasma HDTV. I posted in other forum to ask for advice but not getting any reply so far. frown.gif
Below are some questions and answers to which some of the experienced guys of HDTV requested in the first place before they can advise if the plasma is what I need. Hopefully AVS expert would give me a suggestion or two.

So I am planning to setup a HTPC mainly for movie (1080p rip), and gaming with XBMC platform. With the neat information of plasma posted here, I became interested of this class among all HDTV already. But I am doubtful if it is the one I am looking for, so please help me on this.

1. How far away will you be from the display when watching it? (Be as exact as possible. A 5' range difference IS a major difference - Please limit the range to 2')
6-7 feet

2. What TV will it be replacing (i.e. 27" tube TV, etc) (include TV age as well)
none

3. What will you be watching on it (i.e. 1/3 movies, 1/3 TV shows, 1/6 Sports, 1/6 gaming console, etc)
1080p rips (got full size one and also two black bars one on my current 20" LED monitor), gaming, and possible XBMC plug-in contents (hear that is superTV plug-in, not sure about that)

4. Will a computer be connected to use the display as a monitor? If so, what percent of the time?
I consider yes as it would be connected to my HTPC as planned, but won't be using for internet browsing. (how about the day after proper break-in for the first 200 hours, should I still avoid the internet browing?)

5. Will you be getting a Blu-ray player to watch movies and will you be getting any HD service from cable/sat, or will you just be watching SD programming, and an upscaling SD DVD player?
no plan for HD service. Were all rip movies that containing black bars called upscalling movie? If so, yes.

6. Are you looking for the best in class display, the best bargain display, or best bang for the buck in the middle display?
best picture quality with less money, I suppose it is plasma cool.gif

7. Are you interested in seeing 3D with the new 3DTVs? If not, what about next year since TVs are usually kept for many years so consider that?
3D movie, maybe out of 10 I might watch 1 for that.

8. What is the room lighting situation? (i.e. can you control the lighting? Can you use light blocking blinds, etc to control it?)
yes, I think I can control lighting of the room.

9. What is your budget range?
$400 ~ $600

10. Will people be watching at multiple viewing angles or just usually one person sitting directly in the center?
it would be two people sitting at the center.

11. When will most viewing be done on the display (i.e. Daytime or after sunset)?
sunset I suppose.

Extra concern:
1. The power consumption would be the main thing that worried me, but many said as long as the TV got calibrated with proper setting the electricity it consumed would be comparable with what LCD or LED would take.

2. I was told the gas using in Plasma tech will be wear out and need to be refill after 2 years old. Is that a myth or a result of improper break-in/calibrated for the first 200 hours?

3. If the first 200 hours had been taken care of, will the burn-in or other major issues still haunting to the TV? Can I use that for internet browsing after all?

If I am missing something else someone please point out.
Thank you.
post #2 of 8
Power consumption on a plasma is higher than an LCD. The difference depends on high bright you have the plasma, and what models of each you are using. It's not going to break the bank, though. We talking cents or a few dollars a month at most.

The "refill plasma gas" is a very OLD myth. The display is completely sealed.

You would really have to abuse a plasma over a long period of time (full brightness with same screen on for months) to burn in a modern plasma. The panels are rated for 100,000 hours typically. You can get image retention if the same image is left on the screen for hours and hours. It is cleared by just watching TV.

Michael
post #3 of 8
Thread Starter 
Glad there are improvements made for the modern plasma, I will certainly get a one.
I hope the bill wouldn't give me a heart attack like you said. cool.gif

Thanks for your clarification for all.
Break in is another step to learn...
post #4 of 8
As you posted in a "Plasma" forum, I would bet you will get more recomendations on Plasma.

However, as your budget is 400-600 dollars, you will have more options with LCD (and LED LCD's)

I went to walmart.com, and looked at all the TV's under 500 dollars, and they have:
3 - Plasma
114 - LCD
80 - LED (LED LCD)

And the three plasmas that they had were all 720p.

They do have a 51 inch Samsung Plasma 1080p for 698.00.

Now don't dis a 720p plasma, my 58 inch 2006 model Panasonic 720p plasma STILL is awesome!

Every day that I watch it, I ask myself, "Amazing Picture, what am I REALLY missing in a 1080p Plasma?" (Now that is a retorical question, I do plan to upgrade to a 1080p PanasonicVT50 65 inch soon!)

End result, go look at the TV, bring some DVD's with you, spend some time adusting the controlls, research the model here at AVS. End result is that you have to live with your decision.

This is a personal choice, but if I had to choose between a 37 inch "best in class" tv, vs a "pretty good" 50 inch TV, (Plasma or LCD or LED LCD) I would choose the larger TV every time.

The first day I set up my 58 inch Plasma in my living room, I felt like Captain Kirk! It was an awesome feeling! I was worried, "Did I get a TV that was TOO BIG??? But, you get used to the size. Now it is 5 years later, and I STILL love my TV, but I cant wait for my 65 inch TV!

You definately get used to the size!
post #5 of 8
Thread Starter 
My living room is not big enough for TV larger than 42".
I must confess that I am still confusing about the resolution of Plasma that is advertised.

I've seen one of 42" Plasma (forgot the brand already) with native resolution, 1024 x 768. But stated it is a 720p display...
However this TV is ready for playing HD, 1920 x 1080 movie which is detailed in its datasheet.

Am I not connecting the dots..?confused.gif
post #6 of 8
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Originally Posted by guner7 View Post

My living room is not big enough for TV larger than 42".
I must confess that I am still confusing about the resolution of Plasma that is advertised.
I've seen one of 42" Plasma (forgot the brand already) with native resolution, 1024 x 768. But stated it is a 720p display...
However this TV is ready for playing HD, 1920 x 1080 movie which is detailed in its datasheet.
Am I not connecting the dots..?confused.gif

The two 42" plasmas, panasonic 42x5 and samsung 42e450 are 720p tv's. The 720p name is just an indication or approximation of what the tv is. You already know the actual pixel resolution. These tv's will convert a 720p or 1080i/p signal to the panels native resolution.

Tv's with this resolution will have a Screen Door Effect which looks like you are looking through a window screen. If you get close enough you can see this effect since the pixels are larger than a 1080 tv. I went to a few stores last night and saw these two tv's and I can see SDE up to about 8 feet away on both further away the effect is hard to see. That's one of the problems keeping me from buying one the other is the panasonic has a heavy green apperance and I couldn't dial it out with the remote(I guess C-net was right). The pannys price is great at walmart at $348 on clearance. I'm just not interested in the samsung, it seems like it has too much red in the skin tones. So now I am looking at some lcd panels(noooooo!!!!!) but everyone I look at has much worse problems in other ways. The LED tv's are too blue but I found natural skintones on the samsung ln e450 lcd but the black levels were weak, ahh what to do. I need a 40"1080 plasma. Anyway sorry about going off on a tangent there,lol. I'm going to take a look at the panasonic 42e50led soon.
post #7 of 8
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the explanation.
I guess I need to see the real picture to made an unregretful decision.

Thanks again and appreciate you guys helpful suggestion and experience. cool.gif
post #8 of 8
You're welcome, I hope this helps a bit. I own two plasmas and am trying to buy a tv for a workout/game room and somewhere in the 35 to maybe 42in size to replace a 36 sony xbr crt that is going to my sons house but that's hard for me because most tv's can't compete so the hunt is on. Problem is that I know the faults in tv's and have a hard time putting up with them. I'd hate to spent 400 to 700 on a piece of crap,lol.
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