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new internal HDD use the removeable tray or bolt in cage?

post #1 of 10
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Hello all I just ordered my first internal (extra storage HDD).

my Acer case has a removeable tray which all ready has a SATA cable and a 12V power cable attached to the backplan
should I just use this tray or should I just bolt the new HDD into the extra HDD slot in the HDD cage then steal the SATA cable from the tray mechcanism?
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edit I believe this new HDD dos'nt come w/ bolts.

pros and cons of both installations is appreciated.

also any tips on installing this new HDD like will Windows 7 automaticalley install in and format it for me? if not I'm tinking it should be formatted NFTA?

Thanks STB



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post #2 of 10
It makes absolutely no difference which method you use for mounting the drive if you don't plan on removing it with any frequency. Otherwise, use the supplied tray. Windows will discover the drive, but you'll have to format it yourself. Go to the Control Panel and select System and Security -> Administrative Tools -> Computer Management -> and Disk Management. Right click on the drive displayed in the graph and select Create Simple Volume. Follow the wizard and assign a drive letter and let it do it's thing. When it's done it will show up under My Computer as a new drive with the assigned letter. You'll also get a pop-up window asking if you want to open the drive and view its contents.
post #3 of 10
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OK should I chose to Formate NTFS for Windows 7?

how is a good way to thoughly test the HDD to make sure it's 100% functionale w/out any bad sectors ect.

Thanks STB
post #4 of 10
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Originally Posted by stevethebrain View Post

OK should I chose to Formate NTFS for Windows 7?
how is a good way to thoughly test the HDD to make sure it's 100% functionale w/out any bad sectors ect.
Thanks STB


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T

As others have said , location of the drive is not real critical if its gong to be mounted and forgotten .
However, one thing you may want to consider is what location will give u the best air flow or should I say , the location that impedes air flow the least.
Edited by flocko - 10/2/12 at 5:57pm
post #5 of 10
that and if you want to use your removable location in the future, you'll have to pull the drive. I have a port like that and I do occasionally use it to swap in and out drives, so I ended up installing the extra drive internally.
post #6 of 10
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Originally Posted by captain_video View Post

It makes absolutely no difference which method you use for mounting the drive if you don't plan on removing it with any frequency. Otherwise, use the supplied tray. Windows will discover the drive, but you'll have to format it yourself. Go to the Control Panel and select System and Security -> Administrative Tools -> Computer Management -> and Disk Management. Right click on the drive displayed in the graph and select Create Simple Volume. Follow the wizard and assign a drive letter and let it do it's thing. When it's done it will show up under My Computer as a new drive with the assigned letter. You'll also get a pop-up window asking if you want to open the drive and view its contents.
I haven't decided yet if I want a DVD and BD burners (using the tray for the new BD burner I'm wanting also I'm thinking flocko
makes a good point in keeping the extra HDD cool I'm thinking it will stay cooler down in the HDD cage

however I believe I'll need to obtain srcews and maybe even rails to mount the HDD in this cage. if I need screws and even rails maybe I'll start w/ the tray then relocate to cage later.

couple more ?s
1.when mounting in tray I'm assumming the lable is facing upward?

2.I read a little on SMART is this software that needs to be downloaded from net?

3.since my MOBO is intel will I have to download drivers or how will I know if drivers are needed like the HDD capisity being much less than 2TB?

4.dos'nt WD have it's own diagnoiseing software I've read that a fualty HDD must be diagnosied prior to RMAing to WD?

Hopefully NE will package up good and it arrives in good condition.

Thanks STB


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Originally Posted by flocko View Post

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T
As others have said , location of the drive is not real critical if its gong to be mounted and forgotten .
However, one thing you may want to consider is what location will give u the best air flow or should I say , the location that impedes air flow the least.
Thanks STB

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Originally Posted by txmxer View Post

that and if you want to use your removable location in the future, you'll have to pull the drive. I have a port like that and I do occasionally use it to swap in and out drives, so I ended up installing the extra drive internally.
Thanks STB
post #7 of 10
1. One would assume so. See how the mounting holes line up between the tray and the drive.

2. S.M.A.R.T. stands for Self-Monitoring, Analysis and Reporting Technology. It's software that's embedded in the firmware of the drive for monitoring the status of the drive. If an impending failure is detected it trips the S.M.A.R.T. monitor and may prevent the drive from booting while displaying an error on the POST screen. The idea is to alert the user of an impending failure so as to allow any data to be safely copied to another drive before the drive fails completely. There's nothing to download or install, although some drive manufacturers post firmware updates for certain drives on occasion that need to be installed by the end user.

3. You should have an installation CD that came with the motherboard containing all of the necesary drivers. However, it's always a good practice to check the manufacturer's website to see if newer drivers have been published and made available. Compatibility with hard drives is embedded in the BIOS installed on the motherboard. Using a smaller hard drive is of no consequence. If there's an issue using larger hard drives then check and see if a newer BIOS version is available that fixes the problem. If not, you may be limited to hard drives of a certain capacity or less.

4. All HDD manufacturers have their own diagnostic utilities that either come with retail drive kits on a CD or can be downloaded from their websites. Manufacturers generally require a fault code that's generated by running the diagnostic tests which result in a failure. This lets them know that the drive is indeed faulty and can be replaced if still under warranty. You'll need this code when requesting an RMA for a faulty drive.

I'm curious to know why someone with well over 600 posts is asking such blatantly newbie questions. This is all basic PC knowledge.
post #8 of 10
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Originally Posted by captain_video View Post

3. You should have an installation CD that came with the motherboard containing all of the necesary drivers. However, it's always a good practice to check the manufacturer's website to see if newer drivers have been published and made available. Compatibility with hard drives is embedded in the BIOS installed on the motherboard. Using a smaller hard drive is of no consequence. If there's an issue using larger hard drives then check and see if a newer BIOS version is available that fixes the problem. If not, you may be limited to hard drives of a certain capacity or less.
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I'm curious to know why someone with well over 600 posts is asking such blatantly newbie questions. This is all basic PC knowledge.
3.this is a prebuilt PC and I did'nt recieve any OS or driver reinstallation CDs.


should I chose to Formate NTFS for Windows 7?

lastly is mounting in the HDD cage preferred compared to the tray since it seams like there's better air flow in the lower section of the case?

the majoerity of my ?s are none PC related I'm new to HTPC. hence my first internal (extra storage HDD).
previous computers have been LTs. where I've simply done HDD swaps and had OS and driver DVDs, I've never had a desktop PC w/ multible HDD

most of my ?s are speakers, AVR,remote, DVD recording, TV ect. related

Thanks STB
post #9 of 10
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Originally Posted by stevethebrain View Post

3.this is a prebuilt PC and I did'nt recieve any OS or driver reinstallation CDs.
should I chose to Formate NTFS for Windows 7?
lastly is mounting in the HDD cage preferred compared to the tray since it seams like there's better air flow in the lower section of the case?
the majoerity of my ?s are none PC related I'm new to HTPC. hence my first internal (extra storage HDD).
previous computers have been LTs. where I've simply done HDD swaps and had OS and driver DVDs, I've never had a desktop PC w/ multible HDD
most of my ?s are speakers, AVR,remote, DVD recording, TV ect. related
Thanks STB

# 3 Then you will need to go to the computer manufact. web site and d/l drivers from there Ie: Acer . I had this prob with a Gateway once and they sent me disks for free minus postage . Of course that was back when big box was a tad better than it is today ,

Yes , 99% of the time unless you are in a very unusual situation , you will format NTFS

If there is better air flow in the bottom (cage area) then I would put the drive there. It will help kep the drive cooler and judging by the pics , it will not impede air flow at all.

One other piece of advice . I would spend about thirty minutes and re work that factory "rats nest" of wires inside that case . My God ! I almost forgot how bad they were eek.gif

It would also appear that there is room to add an exhaust fan on the rear of the interior of the case . Proly a 90 or 120mm size if I had to guess. This will help a lot for air flow. Obviously that would require the mother board to have a spare fan header .

I fail to see where post count is tied to knowledge or lack there of either . This is a forum , PLEASE , if you have a question ..... ASK IT !! No harm wink.gif
Edited by flocko - 10/4/12 at 3:15am
post #10 of 10
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I'm anixious to install my audio/video type HDD today hopefulley it will have better preformance than the two regular HDDs I'm currently using like w/ this type of HDD designed for A/V use will I be able to record 3 shows and watch another from this drive w/out any hangups where I have to close W7MC then restart W7MC?

actualley I have added a sys. case fan I can play the PC for 8 + hours and the CPU temp. stays at 30 degrees. hopefully the new X/ drive X for extra won't heat things up.

I'm wanting to add a intake fan however my Intel MOBO only has one connection that I'm using for case fan.
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Thanks STB
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