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post #421 of 652
Hi Gents,
A newb here.
Been looking to pull the trigger on the LS50.
Currently I have a pair of Q300 running off the Yamaha A820.
Q300 replaced the L/R 3005SE eggs and I found that to be a HUGE musical upgrade!
The rest of the 3005SE are still there for movie duty.

So now i'm looking to upgrade the Q300 to the LS50 (or maybe the R300)

From what I gathered the Yamaha will not do the LS50 justice. Am I right here?
Amp upgrade is possible but will have to be later as capital is limited frown.gif

My main question is how does the LS50 fair with "less than perfect" source?
i.e. iPod connected to the AVR with songs bought from iTune.

I listen to stuff like Jack Johnson, Jason Mraz, Adele, Daft Punk, Maroon5. Basically you top 40 chart with a bit of Jazz from time to time.
Will my playlist fit the LS50?
I really love how the Q300 revealed so much more details comparing to the egg speaker!
Will the LS50 be the next step up?
post #422 of 652
I was initially planned to buy the Q300 but ended up purchased the LS50s
post #423 of 652
If you liked the Q300, you will love the LS50. It's on another planet. It does need good amplification though, dips to 3 ohms.

I heard it at the dealer with a Krell integrated and it was OK. Then we plugged it into a Primaluna integrated tube amp and it was mind blowing. I myself use it with a Parasound A23 and it is phenomenal but missing the lushness of the tubes. I may try a tube preamp down the line.
post #424 of 652
Thread Starter 

Yes the LS50 are that good for one the reviews are all reflecting the truth.

 

http://www.kef.com/html/us/showroom/flagship_hi-fi_series/LS50/ls50/ls50/

post #425 of 652
Had a listen to the LS50 today.

WOW!
These little boxes r freakin amazing!
Even when I asked them to run off a Yamaha a1030.
The lows are abundant from such a small cabinet.

And that sound Stage! Now I understand what's everyone is raving about.
Will b getting them as soon as I can sell my Q300.
post #426 of 652
looks like isoacoustics partneed up with argosy for what could be the sickest stands ever for the LS50's

http://www.argosyconsole.com/html_internal/argosyspeakerstands_istands.html
post #427 of 652
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by dlfromcanada View Post

looks like isoacoustics partneed up with argosy for what could be the sickest stands ever for the LS50's

http://www.argosyconsole.com/html_internal/argosyspeakerstands_istands.html

Yes just expensive for MDF
post #428 of 652
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Originally Posted by fatboy269 View Post

Had a listen to the LS50 today. WOW!
These little boxes r freakin amazing! Even when I asked them to run off a Yamaha a1030.
The lows are abundant from such a small cabinet.

And that sound Stage! Now I understand what's everyone is raving about. Will b getting them as soon as I can sell my Q300.

Yes they are that good !
post #429 of 652
Does anyone have a suggestion for which model of IsoAcountics stand fits best for use with the LS50's?
post #430 of 652
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Chucka View Post

Does anyone have a suggestion for which model of IsoAcountics stand fits best for use with the LS50's?

http://www.isoacoustics.com/files/chart_imperial.pdf
post #431 of 652
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Originally Posted by Chucka View Post

Does anyone have a suggestion for which model of IsoAcountics stand fits best for use with the LS50's?

ISO-L8R155
post #432 of 652
Curious if anyone is using these as a desktop near field monitor?
post #433 of 652
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Curious if anyone is using these as a desktop near field monitor?

Yeap. Look on page 14.
post #434 of 652
Nice! What are you driving them with? They image well at near field?
post #435 of 652
I have had LS50s both in a 5.1 configuration in my theater room and on my desk. They do image well on the desk.
post #436 of 652
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Originally Posted by adidino View Post

Nice! What are you driving them with? They image well at near field?

Parasound A23. They sound fantastic. Imaging is great even at near field. I usually lean back in my chair so I'm about 4 feet away with them about 4 feet apart.
post #437 of 652
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Originally Posted by drewTT View Post

Parasound A23. They sound fantastic. Imaging is great even at near field. I usually lean back in my chair so I'm about 4 feet away with them about 4 feet apart.

I am looking at the A31 and the Marantz SR7008 for all other 6 channels biggrin.gif
post #438 of 652
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I am looking at the A31 and the Marantz SR7008 for all other 6 channels biggrin.gif
I would expect that to be quite sweet!
post #439 of 652
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Originally Posted by jima4a View Post

I would expect that to be quite sweet!

Yes it should, I am currently using the Integra combo DHC-80.3 with DTA-70.1
post #440 of 652
Is the concensus here that "normal" AV receivers just won't do with these speakers? I have a Denon X1000 and I'm thinking about getting a pair of LS50's.
post #441 of 652

^That might be OK.  But, like many minimonitors, these are not all that efficient (85dB sens).  The demands on the amp greatly increase with distance and listening level, so the questions that come to my mind are how far away is MLP from the speakers, how loud do you listen, and will you be using a sub? 

post #442 of 652
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Originally Posted by SoundofMind View Post

^That might be OK.  But, like many minimonitors, these are not all that efficient (85dB sens).  The demands on the amp greatly increase with distance and listening level, so the questions that come to my mind are how far away is MLP from the speakers, how loud do you listen, and will you be using a sub? 

My MLP is now less than 9 feet away from the speakers. The room is about 13 feet x 16 feet but opens to another room in the far corner. I have a sub (SVS SB12-NSD) and will be using it always. In the future I might move into a smaller apartment (I'm a student so no big places in years) and the MLP won't be further away than now. My volumes are maybe "medium", i.e. I don't listen with loud volumes as I live in an apartment but I like to really hear my music.
post #443 of 652

^That seems like a very workable setup to me.  You're not asking more from the amp or the speakers than they're designed for. 

 

Minimonitors love subs, as that offloads the most demanding freqs to the sub.  The amps in the AVR also love it as those very same low freqs demand a lot of power, and that is now taken care of by the sub's amp, leaving more headroom for driving the speakers.

post #444 of 652
Thank you for your input! And merry Christmas, it's almost 24th already where I live smile.gif

This is also something that I could ask here: How does the LS50 react to Audyssey MultEq XT? How does the sound change or has changed for those of you who have tried/used it?
post #445 of 652

^You're welcome and Merry XMas to you too! Like any speakers, these will interact with the room causing uneven freq response.  To the extent possible/practical for you, use careful speaker/MLP placement, informal acoustic "treatments" (rugs, curtains) and/or formal treatments (bass traps, diffusing/absorbing wall panels, etc) to minimize the problems. 

 

Audyssey attempts to correct for whatever problems it detects.  XT is pretty good especially in the bass and I found it really indispensable for my room as I have limited options for placement and no formal acoustic treatments.  XT32 is even better.

 

That said, you can simply run Autosetup/Audyssey in your AVR with your new speakers.  Set the Kefs to Small and raise the crossovers to at least 80 (100 or 120 might be even better).  Then set your Manual EQ to "Base curve copy".  Then A/B/C/D between. Audyssey, Bypass FR/L (that EQs only the sub), Manual EQ and EQ OFF to hear what you prefer.  Some people find Audyssey degrades the high end soundstage/imaging/detail a bit*.  In that case they might prefer Bypass FR/L so Audyssey can still correct a large portion of the bass problems but leave the highs untouched.   YMMV.

 

*(XT32 has improved and doesn't do that nearly as much if at all)

post #446 of 652
I added a tube pre-amp to the LS50 and Parasound A23 setup and WOW, unbelievably good!
post #447 of 652

 

 

My Kefs finally arrived! They took longer than expected so I  took the occasion to reorganize my workspace. I thought I'd better take a pic of my desk real quick as it will never be this neat again.  :D 

 

The Emotiva XDA-2 digital pre fits great under the video monitor and even raises it to proper height.   The Emotiva amp is tucked out of the way on a shelf in the footwell. 

 

The LS50s are really handsome speakers.  The perspective in this photo is off but I sit dead center between them, about 40" from each speaker.  They are about 60" apart, at ear level and toed to aim right at my head.  The back corner of each is about 9" off the wall, though the ports are essentially pointed at the room corners 24" away. I listening with the outer plugs in the ports for now.

 

Oh, right, how do they sound?  I must say the SQ is simply fabulous.  I've never heard such detail, imaging and dynamics except from good headphones. But unlike headphones, this nearfield listening setup has a wonderful soundstage.  So dynamic and rich, these Kefs really bring acoustic music to life.  Lovin it!:)  

post #448 of 652
Very nice. I agree with your assessment. Amazing near field speakers.
post #449 of 652

^Your pic of your space inspired me!

post #450 of 652

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