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post #10111 of 16420
There won't be any Nuforce. There was a post somewhere from them saying they had no intention of providing mods for the 103. Some of the custom modders who regularly provide Oppo mods have various mods available but they tend to be pretty expensive. If you don't like the sound of your 103, consider selling it and getting a 105. The 105 is essentially a factory modded 103 with significant upgrades to the analog audio circuitry. BTW. I believe Nuforce was involved in the design of the 105.
post #10112 of 16420
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Originally Posted by petercw2 View Post

For those of you, like me, who are running on OSX(mac), this file doesn't work on OSX. You have to do this conversion on a Windows machine.
If anyone is aware of a OSX version of this file, please speak up!

Its a very simple line of code appended to the "index.bdmv" file in the root of the BDMV folder, its called an "AVCHD extension". Do a little sleuthing and you'll find a way to do it.
post #10113 of 16420
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I just picked one or these up from Magnolia. The top of the box isn't even taped shut! Is that normal? I don't see any torn tape from the box but it seems odd they would ship these players this way. I want to make sure they didn't sell me a used model.

Strange since i got a sealed one from Magnolia. I did not see any Magnolia additions inside the box when I opened it.
post #10114 of 16420
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Originally Posted by JazzGuyy View Post

There won't be any Nuforce. There was a post somewhere from them saying they had no intention of providing mods for the 103. Some of the custom modders who regularly provide Oppo mods have various mods available but they tend to be pretty expensive. If you don't like the sound of your 103, consider selling it and getting a 105. The 105 is essentially a factory modded 103 with significant upgrades to the analog audio circuitry. BTW. I believe Nuforce was involved in the design of the 105.

Thanks - I'm seriously considering it, as I'm currently using both the S790 and BDP-103 on a trial basis. The 103 wins on picture, but the S790 wins on audio (at least on my stereo). Of course, these are bluray players, not CD players, but I do listen to a lot of music so it's turned into a bit of a battle.
post #10115 of 16420
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Originally Posted by caustic386 View Post

Thanks - I'm seriously considering it, as I'm currently using both the S790 and BDP-103 on a trial basis. The 103 wins on picture, but the S790 wins on audio (at least on my stereo). Of course, these are bluray players, not CD players, but I do listen to a lot of music so it's turned into a bit of a battle.

The 790 doesn't have analog audio outputs, so I assume you're using an HDMI connection (or is it optical?) for both when you're testing.

If you're bitstreaming, the audio should be the same as it's being decoded by the AVR.

The benefit that you would get from a 105 would be strictly in the analog connections (unless you use headphones), so if you're just looking at HDMI connectors, the 103 is as good as the 105 in this kind of use.
post #10116 of 16420
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Originally Posted by hernanu View Post

The 790 doesn't have analog audio outputs, so I assume you're using an HDMI connection (or is it optical?) for both when you're testing.

Not sure where you got that idea? The S790 has stereo analog audio out, which support Dolby Pro Logic (as does the BDP-103 in RT/LT mixdown).
post #10117 of 16420
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Originally Posted by caustic386 View Post

Not sure where you got that idea? The S790 has stereo analog audio out, which support Dolby Pro Logic (as does the BDP-103 in RT/LT mixdown).

The question is are you utilizing HDMI or the Analog outs on either or both etc?

Cheers
post #10118 of 16420
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Originally Posted by KJSmitty View Post

The question is are you utilizing HDMI or the Analog outs on either or both etc?

Analog on both, tested in both regular stereo and Dolby Pro Logic.
post #10119 of 16420
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Originally Posted by Shauri026 View Post

Hi all,
I'm currently using a "WD My Passport 1TB Portable External Hard Drive Storage USB 3.0" for all of my external media files.
I have it connected to the rear USB port on the back of the 103.
The drive is self contained and gets it's power through the USB of whatever device it's attached to. The drive is going to sleep while watching a BD, Netflix, Roku, etc. When I go back into the 103's menu to access the HDD, the player hangs, leaving me with no choice but to soft reboot it with the "Power Long press" feature.

When the player comes back online, the HDD flashes and accesses. After rougly 10 minutes of non use, the drive sleeps and the Oppo doesn't seem able to wake it up; or it tries, but just becomes non responsive waiting for the drive to wake up (hangs).
At first I thought the drive was just taking it's sweet time waking up, but after several minutes the only button that responds on the 103's remote is "Open/Close Disc Tray" and of course, the "Power Button".

I apologize in advance if this problem has been discussed and perhaps solved already within this thread; however I went searching through the thread for a possible solution and even tried a thread search query. Seems several posters were experiencing the same problem as I am, but no one has discovered a solution to the problem.

I did try hooking up a seperate external HDD that has it's own dedicated power supply, but alas, it went to sleep and refused to wake when the 103 asked it.
The HDDs are not accessing during this wait time, they are quiet and not spinning (they're aleep) until I power cycle the 103.

This is driving me bonkers and I would like to think Oppo would've seen this problem coming during development of the 103.
Has anyone solved this issue???

Thanks


**UPDATE**

I finally got around to contacting Oppo customer service (awesome customer service btw) and they informed me that the two USB ports on the rear of the 103 share a 1.5v rail or something like that rather. That if more than one USB device is connected the player and draws more power, any second device may fail to initialize. They said that external HDDs all have different power demands.
Their suggestion, try only connecting the external HDD to the player and seeing if the problem continues.
I told them the drive hangs the player even when it's the only device connected to the player.
They then asked me if I was using the Roku Streaming Stick. I told them that I was. They told me to disconnect it and try to reproduce the problem.
Low and behold the drive works like it should. It was that the MHL voltage draw plus the external HDDs draw that would cause the drive not to spool up from sleeping. This is my theory on what was occuring.

Ironically though. I recently purchased the Netgear R6300 B/G/N/AC router. It has USB ports on it which allow the connection of memory sticks and external HDDs. I purchased a powered USB 3.0 hub and am now running two 2TB externals for all my external media through the 103's Network feature.

For anyone still having problems with external HDDs hanging the player. Just know that having a large array of USBs devices plugged in all at once may be drawing too much power from the 103's power rail to wake up sleeping drives.
post #10120 of 16420
^ Thanks for the update! Yes, if you are having problems with a bus powered USB drive, one of the first things to try should be to hook it to external power -- such as connecting it through a wall powered, USB hub, if the drive itself doesn't offer an external power option.

The possible connection to use of the ROKU Streaming Stick is new. I don't believe that's been posted here before. Which means you've earned a freshly baked cookie!
--Bob
post #10121 of 16420
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Originally Posted by caustic386 View Post

Anybody catch wind of upcoming BDP-103 mods? I'm looking specifically at the audio at an affordable rate like the NuForce boards that came out for the 93. The 103 seems dull to me, in the stereo audio arena.

There are multiple mod shops around the world selling all sorts of mods to the 103, just as was the case with previous OPPO players. Some of them make for fascinating reading, such as the outfit that determined ink-soaked felt attached inside the unit is vital for improved audio -- but only if it is soaked in GREEN ink.

I instantly flashed back to the movie about Edison trying to find just the right conductor to make his prototype light bulb work. The long, lonely hours of the true inventor....

Anyway, a Google search will find any number of such shops, including ones that have an established record. It's possible the FAQ (link available at the top of the first post of this thread) may also list some of those; I forget. Finding fair reviews of such mod shops and the mods they offer is a MUCH tougher job.

But heck, you can even find a shop that will open holes in the top of the chassis so TUBES can stick out! There's a real conversation piece!

Now, "affordable", and "audio mod" are not terms that usually go well together. But hunt around and you'll certainly find options at various prices. Most of these mods will be focussed on improving Stereo Analog audio only, so check carefully what any given mod actually tackles.

And of course OPPO's own BDP-105 is an option you should consider.
--Bob
post #10122 of 16420
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

There are multiple mod shops around the world selling all sorts of mods to the 103, just as was the case with previous OPPO players. Some of them make for fascinating reading, such as the outfit that determined ink-soaked felt attached inside the unit is vital for improved audio -- but only if it is soaked in GREEN ink.

I instantly flashed back to the movie about Edison trying to find just the right conductor to make his prototype light bulb work. The long, lonely hours of the true inventor....

Anyway, a Google search will find any number of such shops, including ones that have an established record. It's possible the FAQ (link available at the top of the first post of this thread) may also list some of those; I forget. Finding fair reviews of such mod shops and the mods they offer is a MUCH tougher job.

i'd love to read that mod - do you recall who makes it? After significant searching, I've found a few mod shops, but you're absolutely right regarding cost and reviews. Upgrade Company, Tweak Audio (EVS), and Audiocom International were the only 3 I dug up with no reviews positive or negative of the 103 mods. Everyone else seems to want to focus on 95/105 - but I can't even afford the base model on those!

All mod companies make fairly substantial claims, though. For instance, improved video? If the 103/105 is already reference grade (I'm not qualified to confirm/deny that) as reviewers tend to agree, how can it get better? Or improved digital output - how is that possible? Analog makes perfect sense, but the rest gives me pause (likely due to my lack of understanding).
post #10123 of 16420
ModWright is another one frequently mentioned. They do that totally tubular (Dude!) mod for example, and have been at this for a while. The company whose mod is more "felt" than heard should probably remain nameless......

I can hardly keep up with OPPO's own output, so I've not actually tried any of these mod outfits myself.
--Bob
post #10124 of 16420
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Originally Posted by caustic386 View Post

i'd love to read that mod - do you recall who makes it? After significant searching, I've found a few mod shops, but you're absolutely right regarding cost and reviews. Upgrade Company, Tweak Audio (EVS), and Audiocom International were the only 3 I dug up with no reviews positive or negative of the 103 mods. Everyone else seems to want to focus on 95/105 - but I can't even afford the base model on those!

All mod companies make fairly substantial claims, though. For instance, improved video? If the 103/105 is already reference grade (I'm not qualified to confirm/deny that) as reviewers tend to agree, how can it get better? Or improved digital output - how is that possible? Analog makes perfect sense, but the rest gives me pause (likely due to my lack of understanding).

Yeah improved video.. what a joke. I would tend to believe that any additional processing beyond what the Oppo already does would only soften/make the image worse, imo. Unless they mean that a new chip completely replaces what the Oppo does video processing wise.. but then again, if its already reference quality according to many, what exactly are you improving on..
post #10125 of 16420
Strange Audio Problem...

I have no audio for TV but I do for BluRay discs...
Setup is as follows : TV DVR box going into rear HDMI input. HDMI output 1 to the TV directly. HDMI output 2 to the receiver. Dual HDMI Setting is on Split A/V.

If I play a Bluray, I get audio through receiver and video on TV. If I switch to Input HDMI back panel, I get DVR video on TV and no audio.
If I switch the dual HDMI setting to DUAL Display, then I get video and audio for TV coming from my TV speakers.

Any suggestions on what's wrong?

It was working fine. I don't think I changed anything.
I've even gotten a new DVR box to rule out anything there.

Thanks,
Chris
post #10126 of 16420
Anyone streaming successfully from a NAS to the ipad app? the ipad app is not picking up my NAS, only my external drives! I have tried TwonkyServer and a few severs with no joy. the OPPO picks it up on the main menu, but the ipad app refuses to see it on my network.


Help appreciated.

Mark
post #10127 of 16420
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Originally Posted by txemsdoc View Post

Strange Audio Problem...

I have no audio for TV but I do for BluRay discs...
Setup is as follows : TV DVR box going into rear HDMI input. HDMI output 1 to the TV directly. HDMI output 2 to the receiver. Dual HDMI Setting is on Split A/V.

If I play a Bluray, I get audio through receiver and video on TV. If I switch to Input HDMI back panel, I get DVR video on TV and no audio.
If I switch the dual HDMI setting to DUAL Display, then I get video and audio for TV coming from my TV speakers.

Any suggestions on what's wrong?

It was working fine. I don't think I changed anything.
I've even gotten a new DVR box to rule out anything there.

Thanks,
Chris

When you choose Split A/V, VIDEO ONLY goes to the TV and AUDIO ONLY goes the the AVR, if HDMI Out 2 is CONNECTED. I would suggest running Dual HDMI to get audio and video going in both HDMI Out 1 and HDMI Out 2.
post #10128 of 16420
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Originally Posted by marky301067 View Post

Anyone streaming successfully from a NAS to the ipad app? the ipad app is not picking up my NAS, only my external drives! I have tried TwonkyServer and a few severs with no joy. the OPPO picks it up on the main menu, but the ipad app refuses to see it on my network.


Help appreciated.

Mark

I don't believe the app supports network streaming.
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Features

1. Conveniently view media files on a connected USB device or data disc.

No mention of network streaming.
post #10129 of 16420
Originally Posted by DaveC56 View Post

I recently installed the latest beta firmware, performed a factory reset, and reset my personal setting. Since I installed the beta firmware, I am having HDMI sync problems which I didn't have with the previous official released firmware. I use the HDMI A/V split, and the sync problem occurs going through my Marantz AV8801 and the direction connection to my new Samsung 64" F8500.

The good news is that the A/V sync is much better.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

I note from your follow-up post that the problem is getting the HDMI handshake to complete rather than audio/video "sync".

Get in touch with OPPO Tech Support and they can walk you through diagnosing your HDMI handshake problem with the Public Beta firmware. The usual first step is to simplify the handshake itself: Rather than AUTO, use an explicit choice for output resolution, HDMI Color Space, and HDMI Audio type. If that doesn't fix it, then you check whether the issue is bandwidth on the HDMI cabling, by testing with Deep Color OFF and at lower output resolution. If lowering the bandwidth fixes the problem, then usually you would tackle that by improving your HDMI cabling.

Another possible problem can arise if you ALSO have an HDMI output cable from the AVR to that Display. That's easy to check (temporarily disconnect that supposedly unused cable.) If that fixes it, there may be settings in the Display or AVR which keep that second path to the Display from screwing up the handshake.

So you start by checking that stuff, and if still a problem, then you may have found a real bug which OPPO can address.
--Bob

Thanks for answering that one Bob I was going to ask if anyone was. I was interested as I am having similar problems, my brand new 103 has replaced my 93 (now doing duties in another room) I have tried everything you suggest with cables and different options, the 93 worked perfectly in the same set up with no problems and the problem is now with Oppo and has been for several days. I guess the 93 will go back as the main player for now.

The set up is slightly different to the original poster with the TV being somewhat older but still HDMI v1.3
Edited by Rick R - 7/4/13 at 10:54am
post #10130 of 16420
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Originally Posted by Rick R View Post

I am having HDMI sync problems which I didn't have with the previous official released firmware. I use the HDMI A/V split, and the sync problem occurs going through my Marantz AV8801 and the direction connection to my new Samsung 64" F8500.
As a matter of interest... Which post-processing options on your new Samsung TV are still switched on?
post #10131 of 16420
Can you connect a PS3 to the hdmi input on the 103? If so is the decoding handled in the PS3 or the Oppo103?
Edited by kemiza - 7/4/13 at 8:03pm
post #10132 of 16420
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Originally Posted by caustic386 View Post

Not sure where you got that idea? The S790 has stereo analog audio out, which support Dolby Pro Logic (as does the BDP-103 in RT/LT mixdown).

Ah. Thought you were referring to analog multi channel. Stereo analog audio. Ok.
post #10133 of 16420
I have a Logitech K350 wireless keyboard (http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/wireless-keyboard-k350). Can it be used with the 103? Browsing YouTube with the remote is a hassle.

If it can, is there a specific procedure?

Thank you.
post #10134 of 16420
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Originally Posted by Hughski68 View Post

I have a Logitech K350 wireless keyboard (http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/wireless-keyboard-k350). Can it be used with the 103? Browsing YouTube with the remote is a hassle.

 

That should work fine - just plug in the USB and it will recognize it.

 

Alternatively, you could pair your phone (either Android or iOS) to the OPPO through the YouTube app and browse Youtube from your device, sending the video streams to the player. That's what I do.

post #10135 of 16420
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Originally Posted by kemiza View Post

Can you connect a PS3 to the hdmi input on the 103? If so is the decoding handled in the PS3 or the Oppo103?

If you hook it up with HDMI, then the decoding is done by the OPPO.
post #10136 of 16420
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Originally Posted by kemiza View Post

Can you connect a PS3 to the hdmi input on the 103? If so is the decoding handled in the PS3 or the Oppo103?
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Originally Posted by Mongo171 View Post

If you hook it up with HDMI, then the decoding is done by the OPPO.

Decoding of what? Video "decoding" would always happen in the PS3. Any change in resolution, color space, etc would happen in the Oppo after leaving the PS3. If the PS3 was already outputting 1080P the Oppo really wouldn't be doing much if anything.
Audio wise depends again on what the PS3 is set to output, if it is already decoded, i.e. PCM the Oppo wouldn't be doing anything. Unless you want to upscale to 4K or use the Oppo as a switch there isn't really any compelling reason to route the PS3 through the Oppo that I can think of.
post #10137 of 16420
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Originally Posted by SeeMoreDigital View Post

As a matter of interest... Which post-processing options on your new Samsung TV are still switched on?

Actually that was DaveC56 his post is here http://www.avsforum.com/t/1432162/official-oppo-bdp-103-owners-thread/10050#post_23483142. Sorry I got lazy and wanted to add his post in so just pasted it in. For me I am doing no post processing and my problem is actually HDMI 1 direct to the TV which is unstable as soon the source (103) has an output change eg a handshake from which it never recovers other than restarting either the TV or the player. It makes playing any kind of bluray and some DVD's impossible to play even on 1080i from HDMI 1 to the TV just changing resolution with no disc causes this problem. Oppo are unable so far to help so it is going back and being replaced by a 95
post #10138 of 16420
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Originally Posted by kemiza View Post

Can you connect a PS3 to the hdmi input on the 103? If so is the decoding handled in the PS3 or the Oppo103?

Yes you can.

As for "decoding" I presume you mean the digital audio formats. The original PS3 models *ONLY* supported decoding of lossless tracks (Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA) in the PS3. No Bitstream output of those. Newer PS3 models offer the option of decoding those in the PS3 or sending out a Bitstream for decoding elsewhere.

HOWEVER, if you hook up the PS3 to an HDMI Input of the OPPO and want to play a lossless track, then you should definitely set the PS3 to do the decoding itself.

The HDMI Inputs of the 103/105 will not accept the lossless Bitstreams -- only the traditional, lossy DD and DTS Bitstreams. But they WILL accept high bandwidth, multi-channel LPCM! So if the PS3 does the decoding, you can get your high quality audio from lossless tracks into the OPPO that way.

NOTE: You should set the PS3 for YCbCr video output with SuperWhite ON. Also, if you find it sending RGB video output (as perhaps from some games, which I believe force RGB output), then you should set it to "Limited" RGB output instead of "Full" when connected to an HDMI Input of the 103/105.
--Bob
post #10139 of 16420
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Originally Posted by txemsdoc View Post

Strange Audio Problem...

I have no audio for TV but I do for BluRay discs...
Setup is as follows : TV DVR box going into rear HDMI input. HDMI output 1 to the TV directly. HDMI output 2 to the receiver. Dual HDMI Setting is on Split A/V.

If I play a Bluray, I get audio through receiver and video on TV. If I switch to Input HDMI back panel, I get DVR video on TV and no audio.
If I switch the dual HDMI setting to DUAL Display, then I get video and audio for TV coming from my TV speakers.

Any suggestions on what's wrong?

It was working fine. I don't think I changed anything.
I've even gotten a new DVR box to rule out anything there.

Thanks,
Chris

The Dual Display setting is getting audio to your TV's speakers because Split A/V mutes audio on the HDMI 1 output when both HDMI 1 and HDMI 2 are live and Dual Display does not. But I take it when you do Dual Display you STILL don't get audio via the Receiver, right?

Anyway, this demonstrates that the DVR is set up to send audio on HDMI, and makes it unlikely you have confused which output is which on the back of the OPPO, so the problem must be in the handshake with your Receiver.

Try this: Disconnect the HDMI *OUTPUT* of your Receiver and see if things now work.

If that fixes it, then the DVR is not properly implementing what's called Repeater Processing -- the portion of the HDMI handshake that deals with having to do it THROUGH an intervening device, in this case your Receiver. SInce you say it USED to be working, something must have changed.

The sorts of things that might have change would be a difference in the HDMI path from the Receiver to the TV (for example different sockets or something added in that path), or things like turning on HDMI CEC, or changing the HDMI "pass through" settings in the Receiver.

Also, while playing the DVR into the HDMI IN-BACK Input, press Info button on the OPPO remote. The on-screen display will show what is coming in from the DVR (top line) and what is going out on both HDMI outputs (bottom line).
--Bob
post #10140 of 16420
Hi folks


I just bought the OPPO 103 to replace (or supplement) my Denon 3800BD.

I've just moved to the US from the UK so needed a US region bluray player and the oppo seemed to be the best in terms of features. I also like that it's dual voltage so could be used anywhere.
I have the Denon AVC-A1HD and I was wondering what will be the best option wrt video and audio in terms of hook up. Will it be better running the Oppo HDMI 1 directly to my Sony (non 3d) TV and the HDMI2 to the Denon for Audio? Or is the video processing of the Denon superior?

Thanks in advance!
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