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post #10531 of 16400
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Originally Posted by Franin View Post

How come what's the risk ?

The risk is that the new firmware that was just installed won't take. A Reset Factory Defaults is necessary for the new firmware to get written to the appropriate chips.
post #10532 of 16400
Thanks guys best to do a factory reset
post #10533 of 16400
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Originally Posted by kendo70433 View Post


My Oppo is at the back of the theater and I keep the display on. So I would like to have the Front Panel Brightness set to dim always, not just temporarily when it's normally off. (assuming I understood your suggestion) I think that modification to your suggestion would work for both of us.

And Mods, as an owner, I think discussions of how an existing feature might work better are useful here. OTOH, discussions of possible completely new features would be hosted on a different thread, as we've done before when dreaming about hypothetical new Oppo players.

Ken

My suggestion would only change the current Front Panel Brightness OFF mode. The other two modes would stay the same.

As far as I can tell, the setup menu options for Front Panel Brightnness do not need to be there as they only do the same thing that the illumination button does now. The illumination modes would be standard (full brightness always, same), dim (dim brightness always, same), off. Off would be the only current mode changed. The setup menu options would affect only the current off mode. So you would have the option to have the current temporary display be bright, dim, or off. The off setting would keep the player totally blacked out.

The illumination button would still work the same. Full bright, full dim, off with the temporary display, but now the temporary display could be set to either standard (bright), dim, or off and the off mode would also turn off the power LED. So no lights from the player, ever, unless the tray was open, then everything but the power LED would go full bright until the tray was closed. Full bright OPEN on the display and full bright eject button with the tray open.
Edited by kellybob - 7/26/13 at 4:42am
post #10534 of 16400
I'm fairly new to the 103 (6months) and to SACDs. I have a small collection of 9 so far, and I'm finding on some that the Disc Title is being read strangely on some discs (3 so far):
Mark Knopfler's Shangri-La shows as Shangri-Laler
Steely Dan's Gaucho shows as Gaucho Dan
Doobie Brother's Toulouse Street shows as Toulouse Streethers
The Who's Tommy has no title at all
I have 3 Elton John SACDs that all read correctly, Brothers In Arms from Dire Straits and a Black Sabbath SHM-SACD that also read fine.

All song titles on all discs read fine. I'm assuming the 103 is only reading what it's being given, but it seems a little weird that some of these titles are kind of screwy. I don't have another SACD player to try them on, just wondering if some of you have experienced the same thing with SACDs and/or the 103, thanks!
post #10535 of 16400
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Originally Posted by Franin View Post

How come what's the risk ?

I didn't do the factory reset as suggested because I had just done it after the beta install and the final update is essentially the same as the beta. I really did not see a need for it.
post #10536 of 16400
QQ guys (sorry for jumping into it bluntly), does anyone know If I can adjust the subtitles' position with the BDP-103? I'm having the issue that my Panamorph lens cuts my subs in half when enabling it (most if not all DVDs put the subs in the black bars area that the Panamorph zoom stretches). Mil Gracias Guys

Ps - I'll dig into other threads as I'm sure this was covered already, just trying to feel a little better after almost 2 months of (my first) HT construction and the dissapointment of the subtitles position (after spending 2 grand on the lens....)
post #10537 of 16400
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Originally Posted by Xeneixe View Post

QQ guys (sorry for jumping into it bluntly), does anyone know If I can adjust the subtitles' position with the BDP-103? I'm having the issue that my Panamorph lens cuts my subs in half when enabling it (most if not all DVDs put the subs in the black bars area that the Panamorph zoom stretches). Mil Gracias Guys

Ps - I'll dig into other threads as I'm sure this was covered already, just trying to feel a little better after almost 2 months of (my first) HT construction and the dissapointment of the subtitles position (after spending 2 grand on the lens....)

Welcome to AVSForum.

Yes, there is a Subtitle Shift value in setup, but the easiest way to do it is interactively with the remote. Press and hold SUBTITLE and then use up and down arrow to place the subtitles where you want. The setting is persistent across reboots.

-Bll
post #10538 of 16400
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Originally Posted by Mongo171 View Post

The risk is that the new firmware that was just installed won't take. A Reset Factory Defaults is necessary for the new firmware to get written to the appropriate chips.

I thought that powering down was what wrote to the Flash memory. A Reset Factory Defaults would just reset the RAM image of the configuration registers and wouldn't get written to anything permanent until power-off.

Of course, I'm just speculating from experience with embedded devices and what's been said here about Oppo oppperration.

Ken
post #10539 of 16400
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Originally Posted by lujan View Post

I didn't do the factory reset as suggested because I had just done it after the beta install and the final update is essentially the same as the beta. I really did not see a need for it.

Then the latest Official Firmware Version is not loaded into your player.
post #10540 of 16400
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Originally Posted by Mongo171 View Post

Then the latest Official Firmware Version is not loaded into your player.

It is.
post #10541 of 16400
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Originally Posted by kendo70433 View Post

I thought that powering down was what wrote to the Flash memory. A Reset Factory Defaults would just reset the RAM image of the configuration registers and wouldn't get written to anything permanent until power-off.

Of course, I'm just speculating from experience with embedded devices and what's been said here about Oppo oppperration.
You are correct.
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Originally Posted by Mongo171 View Post

Then the latest Official Firmware Version is not loaded into your player.
That's incorrect.

The reset to factory defaults is just required to ensure that the configuration settings are all valid. When significant changes are made to the firmware, there's a potential for settings to get scrambled during the update process, or for the order they're stored to get altered which potentially leaves the player in an unknown configuration and some settings could even have invalid values that would wreak havoc on proper operation. When Oppo states that a reset is required after a firmware update, it's best to be safe and follow their instructions. Going from the most recent public beta to the official release may be an exception, as there aren't any changes (that I'm aware of) aside from the version number dropping the beta designation, but I'd still suggest doing the reset just to be safe.
post #10542 of 16400
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

You are correct.
That's incorrect.

The reset to factory defaults is just required to ensure that the configuration settings are all valid. When significant changes are made to the firmware, there's a potential for settings to get scrambled during the update process, or for the order they're stored to get altered which potentially leaves the player in an unknown configuration and some settings could even have invalid values that would wreak havoc on proper operation. When Oppo states that a reset is required after a firmware update, it's best to be safe and follow their instructions. Going from the most recent public beta to the official release may be an exception, as there aren't any changes (that I'm aware of) aside from the version number dropping the beta designation, but I'd still suggest doing the reset just to be safe.

Gotcha. Thanks.
post #10543 of 16400
I have had the 103 for 6 months and it was perfect until today. This morning when I turned on the 103 and at the home menu something weird just happened. All the icons were shift from left to right by itself.
I called OPPO service and they asked me to re-install the newest firmware which I had done before. So I can't update through network, I had to download and burn it to a CD and upgrade it. But it did not work, I also tried to reset back to default. It did not either.
OPPO service ark me to send it back for repair, just in minutes I received the email with all info. for me to send it back, also they included a UPS return label. So I just printed it out and applied on the box and drop at a UPS location close to my house.
I like the OPPO service doing, it's very effective and friendly.

Wish me luck that I could get my player back soon.

Can Doan
post #10544 of 16400
^ I think you'll be surprised how fast OPPO can turn around repairs like this. Typically the only significant time is the shipping time each way.

What you describe does sound like a hardware failure. They'll fix it.

For the future, I suggest you invest in an inexpensive USB thumb drive stick. Downloading firmware and doing the install via a USB stick is MUCH simpler and faster than burning a CD and installing that way. For example, you might want to try Public Beta firmware in the future, which is not available for Network install.
--Bob
post #10545 of 16400
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ I think you'll be surprised how fast OPPO can turn around repairs like this. Typically the only significant time is the shipping time each way.

What you describe does sound like a hardware failure. They'll fix it.

For the future, I suggest you invest in an inexpensive USB thumb drive stick. Downloading firmware and doing the install via a USB stick is MUCH simpler and faster than burning a CD and installing that way. For example, you might want to try Public Beta firmware in the future, which is not available for Network install.
--Bob

Thanks for the suggestion but as I stated earlier, I could not use the remote to choose anything on the player home menu, it was shifting by itself. Only option was a CD and rebooting let the player booted from there.
post #10546 of 16400
^ When you power up with a USB stick plugged in the player automatically looks for a firmware update, then puts up a message asking if you want to install it. So you'd still have been able to do the USB style of install by just pressing Enter after the player has booted up, even with the corrupted video output. Anyway, it doesn't matter now since the player is already headed back for service, but just so you know for he future, the USB style of install actually happens quite a bit faster than the install from a burned CD.
--Bob
post #10547 of 16400
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Originally Posted by kellybob View Post

My suggestion would only change the current Front Panel Brightness OFF mode. The other two modes would stay the same.

As far as I can tell, the setup menu options for Front Panel Brightnness do not need to be there as they only do the same thing that the illumination button does now.

I just want to set the display brightness in the menu to dim and forget it. I don't want to have to press the illumination button every time I turn on the player. So if the setup menu item currently sets display for all subsequent powers-on, it looks like what you want is for the menu item to also control display brightness when it is normally off and comes on temporarily. Sounds good And we can both have what we want.
Edited by kendo70433 - 7/26/13 at 1:19pm
post #10548 of 16400
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Originally Posted by spawnofwar1600 View Post

Hi bob
Do u have the volume set at fixed or variable in the audio processing setup of the bdp 103, should be set at fixed if you are feeding to a preamp section of a reciever or integrated, if its hooked up to a power amp directly setting should be variable.
Looks like the pre amp section of the oppo isnt one of its strengths , havent tried it for myself though, for movies av split hdmi is working wonders for me , the sheer detail and lfe timing from the sub is amazing .
I would recommend using the fixed volume analog outs to the pre amp section of a receiver for best results.

Thanks for the input Spawn.

The problem isn't new to the new software. It's always popped, but at some point it became intolerable.

I'm using the Oppo variable volume control and feeding into an old AVR, Yamaha DSP-A1, through the external processor input while I put the finishing touches on my DIY amps. The Oppo's volume control sounds better than that in the Yamaha, so I want to run the Yamaha wide open. The DSP-A1 predates HDMI, so it's either analog or not get the HD audio tracks unless I buy a new Pre/Pro. Yes, I know Emotiva and Outlaw are less expensive than a 105. wink.gif.

Interesting results from testing. I followed Bob's recommendation for troubleshooting backwards, unplugging until the pop went away. Early on in my connections I hooked up TOSLINK and S/PDIF to see if I could hear a difference. (I didn't). Toslink is a plastic fiber connection providing galvanic isolation so that's not going to be the source of a ground loop. However, the shield on S/PDIF can be, and was part of the problem. I guess internally there is a difference in ground level between the digital section and the analog section. This makes some sense, because designers generally provide different power supplies for digital and analog sections, even within a standalone DAC. Pulling that connection reduced the pop to an almost tolerable level. So there's a warning, don't use S/PDIF and analog connections at the same time.

Disconnect my HDDVD player from the TV, no change. Ditto for disconnecting TV and external hard drive. The next easiest plug to reach was the cable box plugged into the rear HDMI port. Et voila! No more popping. Plugged it back in and the pop returned. Disconnected the RF cable and the pop went away. Reconnected it and the pop returned. I measure between 1 and 3 mV between my power ground and the cable shield when disconnected. Time for a call to Time Warner to fix their grounding.

Thanks for the kick in the pants, Bob. I should have known to look for grounding issues, but assumed it was the player's fault.
post #10549 of 16400
And cable boxes are notorious for creating ground loops (among other problems).
post #10550 of 16400
^^ Definitely sounds like you are on the right track now!

ETA: I suspect the SPDIF factor you mentioned was simply the different way in which that external, garbage current coupled to the particular connectors. I've not noticed any degradation from having SPDIF and Analog outputs hooked up simultaneously. And with the external source of the garbage removed (that Cable TV feed), I think it likely you could REconnect that SPDIF and not have any issues.
--Bob
Edited by Bob Pariseau - 7/26/13 at 2:20pm
post #10551 of 16400
I just noticed with newest firmware that my 23.976fps MKV files won't change refresh rate to 24Hz on my Plasma. It displays 29.97Hz on the INFO bar and changes to 60Hz when MKV file is played back, Would somebody please confirm?
post #10552 of 16400
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Originally Posted by mikeo24 View Post

I just noticed with newest firmware that my 23.976fps MKV files won't change refresh rate to 24Hz on my Plasma. It displays 29.97Hz on the INFO bar and changes to 60Hz when MKV file is played back, Would somebody please confirm?

Although I've not tried it myself, I've seen reports confirming this. Not sure what's going on yet.
--Bob
post #10553 of 16400
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Although I've not tried it myself, I've seen reports confirming this. Not sure what's going on yet.
--Bob

I sent them a file I was having problems with so they can try and replicate the issue. Thought somebody on the forum might of knew something I didn't. Hope they figure this out soon
Thanks anyways. smile.gif
post #10554 of 16400
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^^ Definitely sounds like you are on the right track now!

ETA: I suspect the SPDIF factor you mentioned was simply the different way in which that external, garbage current coupled to the particular connectors. I've not noticed any degradation from having SPDIF and Analog outputs hooked up simultaneously. And with the external source of the garbage removed (that Cable TV feed), I think it likely you could REconnect that SPDIF and not have any issues.
--Bob

The thump is back when reconnecting the S/PDIF cable and Cable box out of the system. Could very well be my Yamaha's issue. It is pretty old. Can't remember when I got it, but it was more than 15 years ago. I don't need it for the way I use the system, so it's out of here.

The next challenge will be when I hook up my DIY amps. Hopefully that won't be an issue. I'm using a grounding scheme advocated by Nelson Pass that floats the signal ground off of the chassis and power ground wile still providing a safety connection in the case of problems with another piece of gear. If you're interested to learn more, visit www.passdiy.com and examine the power supplies there.

Is there a coax cable isolation transformer that doesn't destroy the signal quality? I've seen many reviews of them claiming that "this transformer doesn't degrade the signal" but other reviews of the same unit say it does. I don't trust the general population anyway, when it comes to noticing changes in video quality. I'll stick to recommendations from a group that is really observant.
post #10555 of 16400
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Originally Posted by mikeo24 View Post

I sent them a file I was having problems with so they can try and replicate the issue. Thought somebody on the forum might of knew something I didn't. Hope they figure this out soon
Thanks anyways. smile.gif
Yes, the problem is confirmed. It's not just on the info bar, but also in the file browser info pane on the left. It's pretty much reporting 29.970 for everything I have which is most 23.976. I've sent Oppo support an email on the issue.
post #10556 of 16400
Bob_ Ellis,

Yeah, sounds like that older Yamaha is unhappy with SPDIF input.

The zero gain transformers that are used as Ground Blockers for cable feeds don't really degrade the signal per se. What they do is reduce the signal strength for some channel frequencies compared to other channel frequencies so marginal stations can become problem stations. Whether that's a problem depends on the signal strength you've got coming in in the first place for the channels you watch. (These gizmos work because the cable shield is not connected to either side of the transformer, so the electrical path along the cable shield is disconnected and the garbage can't get across and into your system. Also note that Satellite TV feeds need a different solution because they send DC voltage BACK to the dish on that cable to switch transponders.)

It is preferable to fix this by correcting the grounding where the service ENTERS your house as that also helps keep surges from coming in to your house.

Check Monoprice and Blue Jeans Cable (both AVS Forum sponsors) to see if they have any recommendations for Cable TV Ground Blocker gizmos.
--Bob
Edited by Bob Pariseau - 7/26/13 at 3:21pm
post #10557 of 16400
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Originally Posted by mikeo24 View Post

I just noticed with newest firmware that my 23.976fps MKV files won't change refresh rate to 24Hz on my Plasma. It displays 29.97Hz on the INFO bar and changes to 60Hz when MKV file is played back, Would somebody please confirm?

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Originally Posted by AYColumbia View Post

Yes, the problem is confirmed. It's not just on the info bar, but also in the file browser info pane on the left. It's pretty much reporting 29.970 for everything I have which is most 23.976. I've sent Oppo support an email on the issue.

I've reported that, too. The current firmware lost the ability to get 24hz from an MKV file. The browser and OSD improperly report the frame rate as 30hz and that's what the player sends to the display.

M2TS versions of the same titles still do 23.976hz, by the way.

-Bill
post #10558 of 16400
I have an Oppo 103 on order. A couple of questions:

1. Can this player stream Netflix films in 1080p and Dolby Digital+ 5.1 audio (when the films are supplied that way)? What about Netflix's Super HD?
2. Is there an app for streaming Youtube videos?
3. How about Amazon Prime Instant Video?

Thanks in advance...I'm hoping this player can allow me to dump a Roku 2, two other BluRay players that take forever to start up, and also a Denon DVD-3109 universal player that I can use elsewhere.
post #10559 of 16400
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Originally Posted by pbarach View Post

I have an Oppo 103 on order. A couple of questions:

1. Can this player stream Netflix films in 1080p and Dolby Digital+ 5.1 audio (when the films are supplied that way)? What about Netflix's Super HD?
2. Is there an app for streaming Youtube videos?
3. How about Amazon Prime Instant Video?

Thanks in advance...I'm hoping this player can allow me to dump a Roku 2, two other BluRay players that take forever to start up, and also a Denon DVD-3109 universal player that I can use elsewhere.

1) Yes to all. Super HD playback will be displayed as 1080p HD instead of the text "Super HD" (if your ISP is cooperating with Netflix on making that available).
2) Yes, the YouTube "Lean Back" app is included.
3) No Amazon Prime native to the player. Amazon Prime IS available on the ROKU Streaming Stick which OPPO Digital sells at a discount if you are interested. Since you already have a ROKU 2, I suggest you just keep that for Amazon Prime, instead.

--Bob
post #10560 of 16400
I'm also seeing the 24fps MKV issue. I hope they can get that resolved quickly because it's a pretty big bug for those of us who've ripped our Blu-ray collection to MKV.

On the positive side, this firmware update seems to have resolved the Netflix freezing issues I was experiencing, so at least that's working reliably now.

Speaking of Netflix, is there any chance we could get 24fps working there? Netflix has been using 24fps encodes for a while now, and it would be nice to be able to take advantage of that. The Roku stick supports it, but the Oppo has problems dealing with it (very noticeable frame skipping, can't believe I'm the only one to notice this because it renders the bulk of modern Netflix content unwatchable).
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