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post #10651 of 16358
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Originally Posted by mirodk View Post

There are problems with the new firmware update.
All mkv. files are played in 29.970Hz from my network hard drive, instead of the correct speed 23.976Hz. It worked before the update.
It does not matter what I do in the setup, I've tried to change the resolution, and PAL, NTSC or multi, nothing helps.

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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

We've talked about this above. It has been reported to OPPO.

-Bill

Seems surprising that Oppo would miss out on this. Or is it a technically more complex issue than it would seem to me as a layman?
post #10652 of 16358
In my estimation one of the biggest limitations of the 103 is inability to be used as a DLNA rendering device on the network, allow control over the library from an iPad using something like JRiver. I cannot use the clumsy Oppo library navigation, and will not put the projector in my theater on just to play audio tracks.

This has probably discussed in this thread, but is there any way around this?
post #10653 of 16358
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Originally Posted by edorr View Post

In my estimation one of the biggest limitations of the 103 is inability to be used as a DLNA rendering device on the network, allow control over the library from an iPad using something like JRiver. I cannot use the clumsy Oppo library navigation, and will not put the projector in my theater on just to play audio tracks.

This has probably discussed in this thread, but is there any way around this?
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The BDP-103 and BDP-105 CAN be used as DLNA rendering devices. Many of us are using the JRemote iOS app in conjunction with J River Media Center running on a PC to do exactly that.
post #10654 of 16358
I use jriver remote on my ipad and JR river to push music to my oppo via DLNA. This works fine for all except DSD and DSF files in audio. I have not been successful to do this with video.
post #10655 of 16358
Gentleman, I am evidently not up to speed on what can be done with this machine. Thanks for straigthening me out. I do have DSD files so this would be a limitation, but not necessarily a dealbreaker.
post #10656 of 16358
DSD files can pulled from a server using UDNP with the oppo, but not pushed with DLNA.
post #10657 of 16358
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Originally Posted by OPPOrtunist View Post


Seems surprising that Oppo would miss out on this. Or is it a technically more complex issue than it would seem to me as a layman?
What effect does this have on playback? I've watched a couple of MKVs that reported 29.970Hz, but I didn't notice anything unusal.
post #10658 of 16358
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Originally Posted by edorr View Post

In my estimation one of the biggest limitations of the 103 is inability to be used as a DLNA rendering device on the network, allow control over the library from an iPad using something like JRiver. I cannot use the clumsy Oppo library navigation, and will not put the projector in my theater on just to play audio tracks.

This has probably discussed in this thread, but is there any way around this?

Yea the oppo media app is pathetic.. Very disappointed. However there are many DLNA friendly apps that work well with the oppo.. I use skifta which allows me to pipe audio from my home network directly to the oppo..it's pretty sweet.
post #10659 of 16358
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Originally Posted by OPPOrtunist View Post


Seems surprising that Oppo would miss out on this. Or is it a technically more complex issue than it would seem to me as a layman?

Very often media file support issues involve Mediatek. Could be they made an inadvertent (?) change that dropped MKV 24hz support and OPPO didn't want to hold up the new firmware while waiting for a fix.
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Originally Posted by Medieval Guy View Post

What effect does this have on playback? I've watched a couple of MKVs that reported 29.970Hz, but I didn't notice anything unusal.

It's the difference between 24hz and 60hz output. From 24fps sources people expect 24hz output these days. Before we had 24hz support in the displays (just a few years ago) everyone lived with 60hz output. And liked it!

If you're not sensitive to 3:2 pulldown judder (I'm not) then it is not a big issue. But some people care.

-Bill
post #10660 of 16358
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

It's the difference between 24hz and 60hz output. From 24fps sources people expect 24hz output these days. Before we had 24hz support in the displays (just a few years ago) everyone lived with 60hz output. And liked it!

If you're not sensitive to 3:2 pulldown judder (I'm not) then it is not a big issue. But some people care.

-Bill
Ah, my TV is only 60hz, so I already have the Oppo set to output at 60.

Hopefully Oppo will have fixed this before I buy a new TV!
post #10661 of 16358
I just got an Oppo 103 today. It's going to replace a Pioneer BPD-320 and a lesser-quality Samsung player for BD and DVD. On BluRays, I don't find the picture any better than that of the Pioneer, which is a fine machine that takes forever to boot up and double-forever to load a BD. But the Oppo's DVD upsampling was noticeably better. It was very easy to set up. It does a fine job playing music files over my home network via DLNA server (I use Asset). I'm using HDMI for audio, so I won't be comparing the 5.1 analog outputs of these players.

Oppo definitely takes the prize for the best-written manual of any audio equipment I own.
post #10662 of 16358
So I have answer from OPPO :

"Dear Juraj

We are aware of some playback issues with mkv files in the new firmware,
we are working to solve it.

Best Regards
Bjorn
OPPO European Support Engineer"


I believe it will not take long time...cool.gif
post #10663 of 16358
Popped in Skyfall last night and noticed it had the fancy pants new DTS Master HD track. Neat! Well, my receiver doesn't support it :no:.

It's a Yamaha RX-V2700 from a few years ago. Great unit just a bit dated, I guess.

Anyway, should I take advantage of the multi channel analog out on the Oppo and the multi channel in on my receiver or would you just stick with the HDMI connection? Is the different between the legacy surround and HD formats noticable/worth it?
post #10664 of 16358
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Originally Posted by virii01 View Post

Popped in Skyfall last night and noticed it had the fancy pants new DTS Master HD track. Neat! Well, my receiver doesn't support it :no:.

It's a Yamaha RX-V2700 from a few years ago. Great unit just a bit dated, I guess.

Anyway, should I take advantage of the multi channel analog out on the Oppo and the multi channel in on my receiver or would you just stick with the HDMI connection? Is the different between the legacy surround and HD formats noticable/worth it?
The options are to allow the Oppo to convert the HDMI audio to LPCM which your receiver should have no problem handling, use the Oppo's multi channel analog outputs into your receiver, or use the Oppo's optical or coaxial digital outputs. If you want to use bass management and/or room correction on your receiver having the Oppo convert to LPCM is your best option. Otherwise, the multi channel analog outputs are probably the best option as the optical / coaxial digital outputs will give you a lower bitrate digital output, which probably won't sound as good as the other options. My recommendation would be to let the Oppo convert to LPCM.
post #10665 of 16358
You just can't decode the bitstream in the Yamaha. Use PCM over HDMI and you still get lossless quality. Set the Oppo to output PCM rather than bitstream
post #10666 of 16358
This morning when accessing Netflix via the Oppo, it asked for my login information which it didn't ask for after the latest update. Kind of strange?
post #10667 of 16358
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

The options are to allow the Oppo to convert the HDMI audio to LPCM which your receiver should have no problem handling, use the Oppo's multi channel analog outputs into your receiver, or use the Oppo's optical or coaxial digital outputs. If you want to use bass management and/or room correction on your receiver having the Oppo convert to LPCM is your best option. Otherwise, the multi channel analog outputs are probably the best option as the optical / coaxial digital outputs will give you a lower bitrate digital output, which probably won't sound as good as the other options. My recommendation would be to let the Oppo convert to LPCM.

I currently have the Oppo set to send LPCM to the receiver using HDMI....so in doing so I'm not missing out on anything from the DTS Master HD audio track that my receiver doesn't support?
post #10668 of 16358
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Originally Posted by virii01 View Post

I currently have the Oppo set to send LPCM to the receiver using HDMI....so in doing so I'm not missing out on anything from the DTS Master HD audio track that my receiver doesn't support?

Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio are lossless compression formats. They're like ZIP containers for audio. Inside the ZIP, the original file is PCM. When you decode either of these formats, you unZIP the container and retrieve the original PCM.

This decoding processing can take place either inside the Blu-ray player or inside your A/V receiver. It doesn't matter which does it. You'll wind up with the same PCM file regardless.

Since your receiver has an HDMI input but doesn't decode DTS-HD Master Audio, the best course of action is to set the Blu-ray player to PCM output. The player will do the decoding/unZIPping step and send the PCM to the receiver for D-to-A conversion and amplification. There will be no quality loss.
post #10669 of 16358
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Originally Posted by edorr View Post

In my estimation one of the biggest limitations of the 103 is inability to be used as a DLNA rendering device on the network, allow control over the library from an iPad using something like JRiver. I cannot use the clumsy Oppo library navigation, and will not put the projector in my theater on just to play audio tracks.

This has probably discussed in this thread, but is there any way around this?

The 103/105 is capable of DLNA rendering. Problem is NO GAPLESS PLAYBACK so if you like live recordings, opera, classical, Pink Floyd or Sgt. Pepper, there will be gaps between songs.
post #10670 of 16358
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Make sure you are not using PGS. PGS will not work with MKV containers.You need to use SUB/IDX, TXT, SMI, SRT or ASS.

Try setting Subtitles to OFF then selecting the subtitles again and see if they load.

Make sure that you are selecting full English subtitles and not the forced subtitles. The difference would be that forced subtitles only appear for things like translation of spoken or written text, so subtitles for English dialogue will not be shown.

Ensure that your Subtitle Shift is set to 0 and not -5 or -10 under Video Setup and Display Options.


Do you know if supporting PGS subtitles will ever be on the road map?

Thanks,
Greg
post #10671 of 16358
Hi @ll, i am installed few weeks ago Windows 8 pro and now i cant access from oppo to my pc.

i created a user, shared folder, deactivated firewall.. i can access with andorid phone and Es file explorer using pc IP and user created but when try access to "server" ask me to user and pass, put data but always says error.

i dont know what happend, with w7 pro dsnt have this problem.


thanks
post #10672 of 16358
What DLNA server are you using? I have Win8 Pro and have had no problems using the oShare DLNA server app. You have to be sure you are sharing all the folders you want to use with your network and the devices on your network. Be sure to do this in Win8. I am also using a Homegroup by the way.
post #10673 of 16358
thanks for answer. I have serviio and works fine, but i dont want to use dlna. i want to use smb option network.

all shared folders can view trough android phone, then, w8 is properly configured, but some option is not compatible with oppo or another option is not activated.
post #10674 of 16358
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Originally Posted by extrem69 View Post

thanks for answer. I have serviio and works fine, but i dont want to use dlna. i want to use smb option network.

all shared folders can view trough android phone, then, w8 is properly configured, but some option is not compatible with oppo or another option is not activated.

AFAIK, SMB does not work with Windows 8. Contact Oppo support for more details on if this will change.
post #10675 of 16358
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by McLuvin View Post

Do you know if supporting PGS subtitles will ever be on the road map?

Not gonna happen. Official word is that MediaTek doesn't know how to parse the PGS subtitles when they are inside of a MKV container. Since the decoder manufacturer can't support it, OPPO can't support it.
post #10676 of 16358
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Not gonna happen. Official word is that MediaTek doesn't know how to parse the PGS subtitles when they are inside of a MKV container. Since the decoder manufacturer can't support it, OPPO can't support it.

Do you know how to make an MKV where you can select the type of subtitles?
post #10677 of 16358
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Originally Posted by Lex22 View Post

Do you know how to make an MKV where you can select the type of subtitles?

You can convert PGS to VOBSUB with the free utility BDSub2Sub and merge the result with mkvmerge. That's a selectable subtitle.

If you can find text-based subtitles like SRT online those are also selectable.

-Bill
post #10678 of 16358
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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD View Post

My Oppo no longer see the Roku stick after the uodate. Anyone else?

Did you do the reset after the firmware update? I think that was my problem with the Roku stick before but not since doing the resets after my updates.
post #10679 of 16358
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

AFAIK, SMB does not work with Windows 8. Contact Oppo support for more details on if this will change.

may be can downgrade from smbv3 to smbv1 or 2 ? is no option available to share media (not dlna) from w8 to oppo ??
post #10680 of 16358
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Originally Posted by extrem69 View Post

may be can downgrade from smbv3 to smbv1 or 2 ? is no option available to share media (not dlna) from w8 to oppo ??
AFAIK, nobody has found a way to get SMB between the BDP-103/105 and a Windows 8 PC working. As rdgrimes suggested, your best bet is to contact Oppo and see if they're working on a fix for this.

One possible solution, though not exactly elegant or ideal, could be to run a Virtual PC (XP should work) on your Windows 8 PC and use that for SMB access. I haven't tried doing this, so I don't know for sure if it would work or not, but believe it should.
Edited by gsr - 8/1/13 at 5:01am
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