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post #10921 of 16446
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Originally Posted by Balthazar2k4 View Post

Recently decided to start using my 103 for streaming FLAC files from my NAS and was greeted with thousands of unsorted directories and files. WTF! I figured by now OPPO would have fixed this problem. Any word on this or why OPPO thinks this is acceptable on a $500 player?

Our supposition is that Mediatek has not so far provided the API hooks needed to provide SMB sorting as they do for locally attached storage.

I suspect a little more patience will be rewarded. Until then: try DLNA instead of SMB. DLNA servers do their own sorting; in SMB the client has to do it.

-Bill
post #10922 of 16446
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

No.

Does your display not accept 24hz, and do you have both 1080p24 and DVD 24p turned on? That would explain unsupported mode.

-Bill
I cannot find from the manual if it accepts 24hz, but it plays blue ray and dish DVr when the 103 is set to 1080p if that tells you anything. Both 1080p24 and DVD 24p are on. The TV is Sony kdl52xbr3 from around 2006
post #10923 of 16446
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Originally Posted by TheFactor View Post

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post #10924 of 16446
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Originally Posted by winston99 View Post

I cannot find from the manual if it accepts 24hz, but it plays blue ray and dish DVr when the 103 is set to 1080p if that tells you anything. Both 1080p24 and DVD 24p are on. The TV is Sony kdl52xbr3 from around 2006

To summarize, you have:
  • Resolution: 1080p
  • 1080p24: On
  • DVD 24p: On

...and some DVDs cause the TV to show "Unsupported mode". They play if you switch the resolution to 1080i.

You're in the US with a US player and are trying Redbox DVDs, right? You have TV System set to the default "NTSC?"

Does this happen with all DVDs or just some?

What happens if you set DVD 24p to OFF?

-Bill
post #10925 of 16446
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Our supposition is that Mediatek has not so far provided the API hooks needed to provide SMB sorting as they do for locally attached storage.

I suspect a little more patience will be rewarded. Until then: try DLNA instead of SMB. DLNA servers do their own sorting; in SMB the client has to do it.

-Bill

Thanks Bill for the information. I flipped the switch on the DLNA support on my Plex server last night and while that solves the sorting problem it isn't very stable (I assume that is most likely the fault of Plex). It would just be nice if I could do all of this directly sans DLNA, but I guess I will just wait it out.
post #10926 of 16446
Well, I got the reply from Oppo this Monday morning about the broken 24Hz/50Hz playback with MKV files so I am happy about their support quality just for that fast reply.

They said that unfortunately the issue is real and has already been duplicated in their test setup and that the fix for MKV playback will be in the next firmware which they hope will come out in two to three weeks.

If it really is weeks and not 2 to 3 months like I expected then I'll be happy.
post #10927 of 16446
Has no one else had an issue when attempting to watch the new film "Oblivion" on blu-ray?

I sat down to watch it Saturday evening and could not get the disc to play past the "UNIVERSAL" opening splash screen. Player locked up and displayed mostly - - - - - - characters.

I tried several times, and cleared persistent storage as well. After watching several hundred BR discs on my -83 and a couple dozen on my new -103, this is my first complete fail.

Any hints would be most welcome.

Thanks!
post #10928 of 16446
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

To summarize, you have:
  • Resolution: 1080p
  • 1080p24: On
  • DVD 24p: On

...and some DVDs cause the TV to show "Unsupported mode". They play if you switch the resolution to 1080i.

You're in the US with a US player and are trying Redbox DVDs, right? You have TV System set to the default "NTSC?"

Does this happen with all DVDs or just some?

What happens if you set DVD 24p to OFF?

-Bill

The OP's display does only 60 Hz, I believe.
post #10929 of 16446
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

To summarize, you have:
  • Resolution: 1080p
  • 1080p24: On
  • DVD 24p: On

...and some DVDs cause the TV to show "Unsupported mode". They play if you switch the resolution to 1080i.

You're in the US with a US player and are trying Redbox DVDs, right? You have TV System set to the default "NTSC?"

Does this happen with all DVDs or just some?

What happens if you set DVD 24p to OFF?

-Bill
Thanks Bill,
Yes to everything but it will play DVD @ 1080p with DVD 24p off. What does this tell us?
post #10930 of 16446
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Originally Posted by Lloyd-TX View Post

Has no one else had an issue when attempting to watch the new film "Oblivion" on blu-ray?

I sat down to watch it Saturday evening and could not get the disc to play past the "UNIVERSAL" opening splash screen. Player locked up and displayed mostly - - - - - - characters.

I tried several times, and cleared persistent storage as well. After watching several hundred BR discs on my -83 and a couple dozen on my new -103, this is my first complete fail.

Any hints would be most welcome.

Thanks!

I played the rental edition without issue. It is stripped down compared to the full version which may have java gunk in the intro material or menus.

Did you reboot after erasing Persistent Storage? Do you have BD-Live off? Are you using current firmware?

-Bill
post #10931 of 16446
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Originally Posted by Lloyd-TX View Post

Has no one else had an issue when attempting to watch the new film "Oblivion" on blu-ray?

I sat down to watch it Saturday evening and could not get the disc to play past the "UNIVERSAL" opening splash screen. Player locked up and displayed mostly - - - - - - characters.

I tried several times, and cleared persistent storage as well. After watching several hundred BR discs on my -83 and a couple dozen on my new -103, this is my first complete fail.

Any hints would be most welcome.

Thanks!

Watched Oblivion over the weekend without a hitch. Might need to contact customer support on that issue.
post #10932 of 16446
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Originally Posted by winston99 View Post

Thanks Bill,
Yes to everything but it will play DVD @ 1080p with DVD 24p off. What does this tell us?

I suspect your display is not accepting a 24hz signal, but you say you are playing Blu-ray with 1080p24 On, which is 24hz 99% of the time.

You have 1080p24 set to ON, not AUTO, right? You're not going through an AVR?

As an experiment, play a Blu-ray (the main feature, not just menus) and bring up the player On Screen Display with the Info button.

On the lower right it should say 23.976, which is the frame rate of the Blu-ray. If you do PAGE DOWN it should change to report the output signal the player is sending to the display. Does it say 1080p60 or 1080p24?

-Bill
post #10933 of 16446
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

I suspect your display is not accepting a 24hz signal, but you say you are playing Blu-ray with 1080p24 On, which is 24hz 99% of the time.

You have 1080p24 set to ON, not AUTO, right? You're not going through an AVR?

As an experiment, play a Blu-ray (the main feature, not just menus) and bring up the player On Screen Display with the Info button.

On the lower right it should say 23.976, which is the frame rate of the Blu-ray. If you do PAGE DOWN it should change to report the output signal the player is sending to the display. Does it say 1080p60 or 1080p24?

-Bill

Yes, i have 1080p24 set to ON
I tried 3 different Blue Ray discs and 1 played 2 produce the unsupported format message.

on the one that played it showed 1080p60 and 59.---, so i guess in my case i should leave dvd24p OFF.
post #10934 of 16446
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Originally Posted by hernanu View Post

The OP's display does only 60 Hz, I believe.

I think your right, but i don't understand something, i thought higher Hz is better as in TV's with 120 Hz or 240hz, why is 24 Hz better?
post #10935 of 16446
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Originally Posted by winston99 View Post

Yes, i have 1080p24 set to ON
I tried 3 different Blue Ray discs and 1 played 2 produce the unsupported format message.

on the one that played it showed 1080p60 and 59.---, so i guess in my case i should leave dvd24p OFF.

Important: You need to keep 1080p24 OFF, else your Blu-rays (most of them) won't play either. With 1080p24 OFF, DVD 24p is moot, so it is disabled.
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Originally Posted by winston99 View Post

I think your right, but i don't understand something, i thought higher Hz is better as in TV's with 120 Hz or 240hz, why is 24 Hz better?

They are different issues. 24hz in the video source is about retaining the frame rate of the original film. To display on a 60hz display a film source must have 3:2 pulldown applied, inserting some extra frames. Everyone lived with this until a few years ago when displays that accepted 24hz and displayed it at a proper multiple of that rate started appearing.

Some people are sensitive to the pulldown, a jerky motion called "judder". (I am indifferent, myself).

-Bill
post #10936 of 16446
Done, thank you so much for your help!
post #10937 of 16446
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Originally Posted by winston99 View Post

I cannot find from the manual if it accepts 24hz, but it plays blue ray and dish DVr when the 103 is set to 1080p if that tells you anything. Both 1080p24 and DVD 24p are on. The TV is Sony kdl52xbr3 from around 2006

I do not believe the Sony KDL52XBR3 supports 24hz input. If I recall correctly the first Sony TVs that supported 24hz were the 2008 models. You should have 1080p24 Output selected to either Auto or Off (if you still get an unsupported format message when using Auto, then Off should be selected). I would also recommend setting DVD 24p Conversion to Off if you leave 1080p24 Output set to Auto.
post #10938 of 16446
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Originally Posted by KC-Technerd View Post

I do not believe the Sony KDL52XBR3 supports 24hz input. If I recall correctly the first Sony TVs that supported 24hz were the 2008 models. You should have 1080p24 Output selected to either Auto or Off (if you still get an unsupported format message when using Auto, then Off should be selected). I would also recommend setting DVD 24p Conversion to Off if you leave 1080p24 Output set to Auto.
Yep, I think your right, this has been a great tv, my father the videophile thought it was a plasma.
post #10939 of 16446
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

I played the rental edition without issue. It is stripped down compared to the full version which may have java gunk in the intro material or menus.

Did you reboot after erasing Persistent Storage? Do you have BD-Live off? Are you using current firmware?

-Bill

Your reply is mucho appreciated, Bill.

I'll try re-booting once again, just to be certain, and I'll def check to see if I have BD-Live switched off.

Firmware is current, BTW.

Thanks!
post #10940 of 16446
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Originally Posted by Balthazar2k4 View Post

Watched Oblivion over the weekend without a hitch. Might need to contact customer support on that issue.

I'll check a few more things, but you may be right.

Thanks!
post #10941 of 16446
One more question - is the current "official" firmware release exactly the same as the prior "beta" release with the same file name?

Maybe that could be my issue, as I updated my firmware the day I received my new player, when the latest firmware was a beta release.

Thanks again.
post #10942 of 16446
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Originally Posted by Lloyd-TX View Post

One more question - is the current "official" firmware release exactly the same as the prior "beta" release with the same file name?

Maybe that could be my issue, as I updated my firmware the day I received my new player, when the latest firmware was a beta release.

Thanks again.

The released notes say the production version is "based on" the same beta version. I'd try the production release just in case.

-Bill
post #10943 of 16446
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

The released notes say the production version is "based on" the same beta version. I'd try the production release just in case.

-Bill

I noticed that in the release notes as well, Bill. That's what raised my suspicions that I should update my FW once again. Sure can't hurt . . .

After going through MANY pages of the Oblivion thread over on the blu-ray forums site, it's apparent that the BD-Live can cause this disc to freeze right after the Universal logo plays, so I'm gonna go into my network setup and make sure it's turned off.

Thanks again for your help, Bill.
post #10944 of 16446
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Originally Posted by Balthazar2k4 View Post

Recently decided to start using my 103 for streaming FLAC files from my NAS and was greeted with thousands of unsorted directories and files. WTF! I figured by now OPPO would have fixed this problem. Any word on this or why OPPO thinks this is acceptable on a $500 player?

If you have access to your NAS' SMB configuration file you can easily add an option for the SMB server to serve the folder lists already sorted. I did this for my Synology NAS and it was pretty easy.
post #10945 of 16446
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Originally Posted by Flave View Post

If you have access to your NAS' SMB configuration file you can easily add an option for the SMB server to serve the folder lists already sorted. I did this for my Synology NAS and it was pretty easy.

I just recently got my Synology DS1813+ setup and am still learning how to use it. Can you direct me where I could go for such information? Thanks!
post #10946 of 16446
Thread Starter 
Release date: August 12, 2013.
Category: Latest Public Beta Test Release
Main Version: BDP10X-60-0808B
Loader Version: 6U0900 or 7B1200 (BDP-103), 7B1200 (BDP-105)
Sub Version: MCU103-05-0916 (BDP-103), MCU105-04-1113 (BDP-105)

Release Notes:

1. This Public Beta firmware is designed to work with a new version of the Apple iOS control application, Media Control HD V2.0 for iPad and iPad mini, which adds new features such as SMB access, album art display, media category support, and the ability to post to popular social networks. This application will be available on the App Store shortly.
2. Added automatic sorting of content when accessing files via SMB. The files/folders are now sorted in alphabetic order.
3. Improved CUE file support. Now a CUE file can point to multiple music files located in the same folder.
4. Resolved an error related to configuring the BDP-105's dedicated Stereo Audio Out. Customers had reported that audio from the surround channels can still be heard from these dedicated Stereo Audio outputs even though "Stereo Signal" has been set to "Front Left/Right".
5. General disc compatibility improvements based on recent and upcoming Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted disc samples.
post #10947 of 16446
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Release date: August 12, 2013.
Category: Latest Public Beta Test Release

Release Notes:

3. Improved CUE file support. Now a CUE file can point to multiple music files located in the same folder.

 

I knew they'd come through on this one!

post #10948 of 16446
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Release date: August 12, 2013.
Category: Latest Public Beta Test Release
Main Version: BDP10X-60-0808B
Loader Version: 6U0900 or 7B1200 (BDP-103), 7B1200 (BDP-105)
Sub Version: MCU103-05-0916 (BDP-103), MCU105-04-1113 (BDP-105)

Release Notes:

1. This Public Beta firmware is designed to work with a new version of the Apple iOS control application, Media Control HD V2.0 for iPad and iPad mini, which adds new features such as SMB access, album art display, media category support, and the ability to post to popular social networks. This application will be available on the App Store shortly.
2. Added automatic sorting of content when accessing files via SMB. The files/folders are now sorted in alphabetic order.
3. Improved CUE file support. Now a CUE file can point to multiple music files located in the same folder.
4. Resolved an error related to configuring the BDP-105's dedicated Stereo Audio Out. Customers had reported that audio from the surround channels can still be heard from these dedicated Stereo Audio outputs even though "Stereo Signal" has been set to "Front Left/Right".
5. General disc compatibility improvements based on recent and upcoming Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted disc samples.

That is damn good timing. I was JUST complaining about the lack of sorting in SMB and 'Voila!' it appears. Can't wait to try it.
post #10949 of 16446
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Originally Posted by Balthazar2k4 View Post

I just recently got my Synology DS1813+ setup and am still learning how to use it. Can you direct me where I could go for such information? Thanks!

As posted above looks like they've fixed the SMB file sorting issue with the new beta firmware. But if you still want this info let me know and I'll put something together for you.
Edited by Flave - 8/12/13 at 8:49pm
post #10950 of 16446
For folks interested in trying this evening's new, Public Beta 0808B firmware, note that you CAN roll back to the prior, Official 0719 firmware if you spot any serious problem.

Also please note that A RESET IS REQUIRED AFTER THE INSTALL. The Recommended Reset that is offered on the first power up after the install is all you need to do. That style of Reset will preserve your Network settings, and also preserve your log in credentials for the Internet apps like Netflix.
--Bob
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