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post #11041 of 16419
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

If the player won't respond to the Front Panel buttons, then this is not a Remote Control issue.

went through it again tonight....new batteries, unplug, disconnect, turn off HDMI Control, etc.....the culprit? The IR input cable I forgot I put in. It apparently turns off the IR sensor on the front panel. DOH.

I was able to sort out my other HDMI control issues....the TV and receiver (both Sony units) are working as they should but the STR-DA1800ES won't control the Oppo. I'd surmise Sony went with their usualy MO; great Sony integration, screw all others. rolleyes.gif
post #11042 of 16419
^ Suddenly! As if by Logic! biggrin.gif

Glad you got the Remote working.
--Bob
post #11043 of 16419
This is what happens when you rip out 12yr old stuff and replace everything all at once! So many cables and variables (and late nights). Thankfully, it was pilot error and not a warranty phone call. smile.gif

Now...if I can just sort out the remote issue and control issues (gear is in a closet). Despite best efforts, there's just no way to have a single remote control the system even though it couldn't be much simpler (TV, A/V receiver, FIOS box and Oppo). Just ordered a Harmony Smart remote...nice to see the RF stuff finally getting cheap.
post #11044 of 16419
I tried the new iOS app with smb support. Mediacontrol 2.
To search and select a file to playback ist great there.
I control my homecinema complete with iRule and the oppo via RS232 and feedback.
Any idea to show a filelist like the new iOS-app in iRule?
post #11045 of 16419
Has anyone gotten a 4k video file to work? I tried the 4k Elysium trailer (http://www.hd-trailers.net/movie/elysium/) and it plays fine on my PC, but I get an error message on my BDP-103 saying the file type is not supported. It is a 5.1 mp4 file.
post #11046 of 16419
IIRC, the player only upscales material to 4k (and then only if you have a 4k display) and does not play native 4k material.
post #11047 of 16419

Dual HDMI Output

Just installed a 103 into my system. It's not clear to me, after much reading of the manual and third-party reviews, if using both HDMI outputs is expected to result in better audio and/or video than using HDMI1 only? I know Qdeo video processing is applied only to HDMI1. I also know that only HDMI2 allows for DSD output over HDMI for my SACDs, and I do like that idea, although I can't hear a difference between outputting DSD vs outputting PCM - they both sound fantastic. 3D is a non-issue.

On page 53 of the menu, under SETUP, the manual reads,

Dual HDMI Output: Allows you to select the output mode when both HDMI Output ports are in use. If only one HDMI Output is active, this selection will not apply.

Split A/V (recommended) – Use HDMI 1 OUT as the dedicated video output port and HDMI 2 OUT as the dedicated audio output port. This setting will ensure the best possible picture quality and the highest possible audio resolution.

The manual doesn't say to use dual HDMI output to achieve the best possible picture quality and highest possible audio resolution. Rather, it says this is the best output mode when both HDMI output ports are in use. That's my question - why do I want to use both outputs, when I can use HDMI1 only? I think the manual could have used a bit less ambiguity in this area.

Thank you.
post #11048 of 16419
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Originally Posted by Ronnie 1.8 View Post

That's my question - why do I want to use both outputs, when I can use HDMI1 only? I think the manual could have used a bit less ambiguity in this area.

Thank you.

Two HDMI outputs are mainly for people who have 3D displays but receivers that do not pass HDMI 1.4. In that case: HDMI1 to the display for video and HDMI2 to the receiver for audio.

We sometimes see troublesome HDMI handshaking setups where two HDMI outputs gives more reliability.

If you are obsessive about video choices, HDMI2 is a decoder chip solution: Mediatek only. HDMI1 is Mediatek + QDEO.

Otherwise: one output should work fine.

-Bill
post #11049 of 16419
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Originally Posted by wendel View Post

I tried the new iOS app with smb support. Mediacontrol 2.
To search and select a file to playback ist great there.
I control my homecinema complete with iRule and the oppo via RS232 and feedback.
Any idea to show a filelist like the new iOS-app in iRule?
What would be really amazing is that if oppo came up with an ios app that would mirror the home interface on the iphone or ipad, without having to turn on the tv or display.
Would even gladly pay for such an app
post #11050 of 16419
Which color space do you prefer on your oppo?
444 or 422?
With 444 i seem to get more detail but the picture is grainy, 422 picture is more rounded, more 3 dimensional and clear.
Overall i prefer 422
but 24hz movie playback seems to be smoother with 444, not sure how the 2 are related
post #11051 of 16419
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Originally Posted by spawnofwar1600 View Post

Which color space do you prefer on your oppo?
444 or 422?
With 444 i seem to get more detail but the picture is grainy, 422 picture is more rounded, more 3 dimensional and clear.
Overall i prefer 422
but 24hz movie playback seems to be smoother with 444, not sure how the 2 are related
It really depends on what works best with your particular display. The same settings can produce different results on different displays.
post #11052 of 16419
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Originally Posted by spawnofwar1600 View Post

Which color space do you prefer on your oppo?
444 or 422?
With 444 i seem to get more detail but the picture is grainy, 422 picture is more rounded, more 3 dimensional and clear.
Overall i prefer 422
but 24hz movie playback seems to be smoother with 444, not sure how the 2 are related

Buy the Spears & Munsil test disc 2d edition. There are a number of tests on there which will allow you to determine the best choice for your setup.
post #11053 of 16419
Hi all,

Apologies if I'm not posting in the correct area; I see only the "reply" option and not one to create a new post.

I just now noticed that my OPPO BDP-103 is not showing subtitles for DVD but is not having a problem with showing them on Blu-ray. I just tested with a few DVDs with subs that I watched with no problem not long ago, and I can't get subs to show now. I have the latest firmware. Anyone else have this problem?

(My system was purchased with the ability to play all regions' Blu-rays.)
post #11054 of 16419
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Originally Posted by finnpine6 View Post

Hi all,

Apologies if I'm not posting in the correct area; I see only the "reply" option and not one to create a new post.

I just now noticed that my OPPO BDP-103 is not showing subtitles for DVD but is not having a problem with showing them on Blu-ray. I just tested with a few DVDs with subs that I watched with no problem not long ago, and I can't get subs to show now. I have the latest firmware. Anyone else have this problem?

(My system was purchased with the ability to play all regions' Blu-rays.)

In the 103, go into Setup > Video Setup > Display Options and make sure Subtitle shift is set to 0. You may have accidentally set it to such a low value that your DVD subtitles are shifted completely off the bottom of the screen.
--Bob
post #11055 of 16419
Bob, I'm so grateful! You solved my problem! Sincere thanks to you.

Best,
Lori
post #11056 of 16419
I've installed firmware BDP10X-60-0808B, and I've found it further improved the 60-24 and 24-60 transition audio muting. While the duration of the muting remains the same as it was in 58-0719(B) (which significantly reduced the muting duration over previous versions), I now am no longer experiencing the instant of audio prior to the mute. The muting also only occurs about 1/2 to 2/3 of the times that a known triggering transition is played.

Additionally I can confirm that with 60-0808B the MKV files now indicate the correct frame rate, but are still played at 60 hz regardless.
post #11057 of 16419
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Release date: August 12, 2013.
Category: Latest Public Beta Test Release
Main Version: BDP10X-60-0808B
Loader Version: 6U0900 or 7B1200 (BDP-103), 7B1200 (BDP-105)
Sub Version: MCU103-05-0916 (BDP-103), MCU105-04-1113 (BDP-105)

Release Notes:

1. This Public Beta firmware is designed to work with a new version of the Apple iOS control application, Media Control HD V2.0 for iPad and iPad mini, which adds new features such as SMB access, album art display, media category support, and the ability to post to popular social networks. This application will be available on the App Store shortly.
2. Added automatic sorting of content when accessing files via SMB. The files/folders are now sorted in alphabetic order.
3. Improved CUE file support. Now a CUE file can point to multiple music files located in the same folder.
4. Resolved an error related to configuring the BDP-105's dedicated Stereo Audio Out. Customers had reported that audio from the surround channels can still be heard from these dedicated Stereo Audio outputs even though "Stereo Signal" has been set to "Front Left/Right".
5. General disc compatibility improvements based on recent and upcoming Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted disc samples.
I really hope this signals the beginning of the end of the wait for the Android media control app.
post #11058 of 16419
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Originally Posted by JazzGuyy View Post

IIRC, the player only upscales material to 4k (and then only if you have a 4k display) and does not play native 4k material.

Thanks JazzGuyy. Disappointing, but it makes sense. I looked through the 103 promo materials and manual and saw nothing on playback of 4k material, I guess I just incorrectly assumed based on the 4k upscaling.
post #11059 of 16419
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Originally Posted by Gaara View Post

Thanks JazzGuyy. Disappointing, but it makes sense. I looked through the 103 promo materials and manual and saw nothing on playback of 4k material, I guess I just incorrectly assumed based on the 4k upscaling.

There are no Blu-Ray players that are capable of playing back 4k source material. 4k is not part of the Blu-Ray standard (at least, not yet). I might be possible to have a player like the Oppo play back 4k-encoded digital files but I doubt it. It would depend on the capabilities of the hardware chipsets, which I suspect aren't engineered for this.
post #11060 of 16419
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Two HDMI outputs are mainly for people who have 3D displays but receivers that do not pass HDMI 1.4. In that case: HDMI1 to the display for video and HDMI2 to the receiver for audio.

We sometimes see troublesome HDMI handshaking setups where two HDMI outputs gives more reliability.

If you are obsessive about video choices, HDMI2 is a decoder chip solution: Mediatek only. HDMI1 is Mediatek + QDEO.

Otherwise: one output should work fine.

-Bill

I recently purchased a Pioneer Elite SC-77 receiver so I can finally use HDMI for audio, rather than TOSLINK which I was using for audio to my old receiver.

I may be a bit obsessive, but I am using the 2 HDMI outputs with the Split A/V function. HDMI1 directly to my TV gives me the QDEO processing, positively assures that the video is not going through any additional QDEO processing in my receiver, and allows if I choose to watch and listen to material directly from the Oppo on my TV without firing up my receiver (audio is delivered from the Oppo to the TV on HDMI1 as long as the receiver connected to HDMI2 is turned off). HDMI2 also allows me to play SACDs with DSD output to the receiver where HDMI1 does not. Also, if I want to view the HDMI2 output from the Oppo, I can also simply select HDMI input from the receiver on the TV rather than having to move cables.

The only downsides I can think of with using both HDMI outputs in Split A/V mode is that I need one more HDMI cable than I would need using a single HDMI output through the receiver to the TV, and that I need to select a different input on the TV for the Oppo than for anything else going through the receiver. Are there any downsides I'm overlooking?
post #11061 of 16419
^^^
A downside to using the Split A/V mode is that you will not be able to see your AVR's on-screen display because your video signal will not be going through the receiver. I compared the video signal from the Oppo 103 directly over HDMI into the TV, versus running it through my Denon 4310 with Convert set to ON and Scaler set to OFF (which means there is no rescaling of the video signal from the Oppo but the Denon's on-screen overlay will be available on the TV). I saw no difference.

Using a single HDMI cable means that I'm getting DSD converted to PCM before it gets sent to the AVR, but I can't use room correction with a DSD signal, and the benefits of room correction trump any advantage of DSD (at least, to my ears).
post #11062 of 16419
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Two HDMI outputs are mainly for people who have 3D displays but receivers that do not pass HDMI 1.4. In that case: HDMI1 to the display for video and HDMI2 to the receiver for audio.

We sometimes see troublesome HDMI handshaking setups where two HDMI outputs gives more reliability.

If you are obsessive about video choices, HDMI2 is a decoder chip solution: Mediatek only. HDMI1 is Mediatek + QDEO.

Otherwise: one output should work fine.

-Bill
Thanks for your reply, Bill. I must not have subscribed to this thread, as I just now ran across your reply.

Well, yes, HDMI1 only does work fine. But, the manual reads that dual HDMI will ensure the best possible picture quality and the highest possible audio resolution.

But from 103's manual, on page 53, it reads, "Split A/V (recommended) – Use HDMI 1 OUT as the dedicated video output port and HDMI 2 OUT as the dedicated audio output port. This setting will ensure the best possible picture quality and the highest possible audio resolution".

For example, I know if I go the dual HDMI route, I can bitstream DSD from my SACDs to my receiver (which can decode DSD over HDMI). Assuming this is an advantage, is this the only advantage in going dual HDMI? Or are there other audio advantages? I've got a support email into OPPO, and plan on talking with them tomorrow.

If they tell me the only advantage is in passing DSD, then I'll probably keep with the HDMI1 output only, as, I'm unable to hear a difference between passing DSD via HDMI2, or passing PCM.
post #11063 of 16419
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Originally Posted by PRO-630HD View Post

I was trying to play the Oblivion bluray isolated score in Dolby True HD and I am getting audio dropouts left and right. My receiver is the Pioneer Elite SC-05. So it is either the receiver or the Oppo player doing it. Reminiscent of Total Recall with it's True HD track when 1st released before the FW upgrade. Is anyone else having this issue?

Interesting that you mention Total Recall. I was watching this last night with the latest non beta firmware and there were several audio drop outs, and by the end of the movie the audio seemed to be almost half a second out. You say that this is a known issue: does this mean that there is a known fix too?
post #11064 of 16419
I've watched Oblivion straight threw with no issues what so ever with my 103 threw my Integra DHC 80.3 . I'm currently viewing Olympus Has Fallen "great movie btw" also with no issues thus far . If I have time today I will try Total Recall since I haven't watched it since getting the 103.
I have my 103 doing the processing .
post #11065 of 16419
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Originally Posted by AndrewFG View Post

Interesting that you mention Total Recall. I was watching this last night with the latest non beta firmware and there were several audio drop outs, and by the end of the movie the audio seemed to be almost half a second out. You say that this is a known issue: does this mean that there is a known fix too?

The workaround is to set the player to LPCM rather than bitstream.

-Bill
post #11066 of 16419
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

The workaround is to set the player to LPCM rather than bitstream.

-Bill
I will keep mine on bitstream as it has been and will check total recall . If mine doesn't do it then maybe it's a AVR issue op are having .
post #11067 of 16419
Is there anyway too dim the menu screen, it just caused some image retention on my display. I am talking the screen with the youtube, Netflix, vudu logo etc.
post #11068 of 16419
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Originally Posted by TheFactor View Post

I will keep mine on bitstream as it has been and will check total recall . If mine doesn't do it then maybe it's a AVR issue op are having .

There is a lot of history on this topic in the forums and elsewhere on the internet.

It is an issue with the way the disc is authored. Some combination of players and AVRs exhibit the problem when set to bitstream, some don't. Some of Sony's own players have the problem.

Sony says: the solution is to set the player to LPCM if you have the problem. This indeed works. They originally said they would issue a new version of the title correcting the problem but it looks like that is not going to happen? Maybe with the "mastered in 4k" marketing push? I haven't kept up.

-Bill
post #11069 of 16419
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Originally Posted by PRO-630HD View Post

Is there anyway too dim the menu screen, it just caused some image retention on my display. I am talking the screen with the youtube, Netflix, vudu logo etc.

The Pure Audio button should turn off video entirely.

-Bill
post #11070 of 16419
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Originally Posted by pbarach View Post

^^^
A downside to using the Split A/V mode is that you will not be able to see your AVR's on-screen display because your video signal will not be going through the receiver. I compared the video signal from the Oppo 103 directly over HDMI into the TV, versus running it through my Denon 4310 with Convert set to ON and Scaler set to OFF (which means there is no rescaling of the video signal from the Oppo but the Denon's on-screen overlay will be available on the TV). I saw no difference.

Using a single HDMI cable means that I'm getting DSD converted to PCM before it gets sent to the AVR, but I can't use room correction with a DSD signal, and the benefits of room correction trump any advantage of DSD (at least, to my ears).

I can always use the remote to flip the TV over to HDMI 2 input to get the on-screen display from the receiver, while still viewing video from the Oppo. Doing this causes the HDMI 1 port on the TV to go inactive, which causes the Oppo to go to single HDMI output on HDMI2 (which then goes through the receiver to the TV). This also allows me to compare the video output of HDMI1 and HDMI2 pretty much on the fly (although there is a long video blanking period when switching between the two as the Oppo switches between Split A/V mode and single HDMI mode). I find using both HDMI outputs in the Split A/V arrangement to offer a great deal of versatility without drawback.
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