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post #11851 of 16416
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Originally Posted by Mongo171 View Post

Then you should be good to go with that way of hooking up the OPPO.

Thank you for your responses - I'll test it out.
post #11852 of 16416
I just wanted to mention that I've experienced crazy fast response times via Oppo support. If you have a strange issue that you might be struggling with, don't hesitate to shoot them a message. I have often gotten responses in minutes.
post #11853 of 16416
Hi guys,

I've searched through a lot of this 396 page thread and can't find an answer to my problem so hopefully someone can help.

I have the 103 setup with split A/V. HDMI 1 goes to the Pioneer 5020 and HDMI 2 goes to my Onkyo TX-NR809.

Now all of a sudden I can't get the Onkyo OSD to show up on the screen. It shows on the receiver only. I think this happened once before but I can't swear to it.

Anyone have a suggestion I can try to get the Onkyo OSD to show up on the screen again??

Many thanks in advance!

John
post #11854 of 16416
You have to use the hdmi output on the receiver to see the osd.
post #11855 of 16416
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Originally Posted by brentsg View Post

I just wanted to mention that I've experienced crazy fast response times via Oppo support. If you have a strange issue that you might be struggling with, don't hesitate to shoot them a message. I have often gotten responses in minutes.

I actually got an answer from them on a Sunday night, same day I's asked my question. I told them I was having some trouble with my DLNA server, Asset. They recommended oshare, which I installed. I cannot get any sort on onscreen window for this program in order to tell it what folders are being shared. I have followed all of the suggestions given here, to no avail. I have emailed Oppo twice about it, but no answer in a week. I know they didn't develop oshare, but if they think it works on the 103 and urge me to use it, they should be able to help their customer...
post #11856 of 16416
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Originally Posted by kemiza View Post

You have to use the hdmi output on the receiver to see the osd.

Thanks kemiza. But I'm positive it worked before with the way I have it hooked up. Guess my old age is playing tricks on me.smile.gif

Thanks again.
John
post #11857 of 16416
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Originally Posted by pbarach View Post

I actually got an answer from them on a Sunday night, same day I's asked my question. I told them I was having some trouble with my DLNA server, Asset. They recommended oshare, which I installed. I cannot get any sort on onscreen window for this program in order to tell it what folders are being shared. I have followed all of the suggestions given here, to no avail. I have emailed Oppo twice about it, but no answer in a week. I know they didn't develop oshare, but if they think it works on the 103 and urge me to use it, they should be able to help their customer...
I don't use oShare, so I just downloaded it from here, unzipped it, and ran oShare.exe in the oShare_Release_V1.01 folder. When I ran it, an icon for oShare showed up in my Windows system tray and the oShare UI opened. The UI looks like:



If you click on the big + button, it will allow you to select a folder you want to share and you should then be all set.

If you close the UI, you can right click on the oShare icon (which looks like ) in the system tray and select "Show window" to get back to the UI. Or you can run oshareUI.exe in the oShare_Release_V1.01\oShare folder.
post #11858 of 16416
OK -- all rewired now. Thanks to some tips on this thread, I now have my new Hopper running directly into the 103 rear HDMI input. Output is now split -- HDMI 2 for audio to the Denon 4311CI and HDMI 1 for video to a Darbee enroute to the Sony HW30 front projector and onto a 130" Jamestown fixed screen.

I must say, there is an order of magnitude improvement in PQ. I had mistakenly thought that only the 105 could be used for video processing, but like previously discussed the 103 is identical on the video side. The animation Brave was ill defined coming from the Dish DVR 722 (the Hopper has been install for 30 hours) through the Denon even with the Darbee, but now it snaps. Before it reminded me a lot of the VHS days.

My impression is that the PQ is not up with the very best Blu rays, but I have not studied it deeply yet. The PQ from DVR is no longer an issue -- most of what I've auditioned is nearly excellent and at worst greatly improved.

I cannot say if the Denon was injecting PQ issues or not, but that is moot now. And the Hopper may be helping too, over the 722.

Someone had asked which Panny blu ray player I was running -- it is the 210 -- came with a copy of Avatar 3D back when no one else had it. Awful little player -- now pulling Zumba duty in the exercise room. Better than it deserves.

So Oppo distiguishes themselves yet again. Can't wait for the 113. But if they work out the room equalization on the analog side of the 115 I will shed the extra coin and go that way. I still fire up my 83SE once in a while -- that deeply refined analog is just plain wonderful in ways that digital has not yet delivered. I use it for two channel listening to this day.

Go Oppo!

Oh, completely off topic -- for the Hopper upgrade I stuffed everything recorded on the DVRs onto two 2 terabyte hard drives and plugged them into the Hopper -- absolutely everything plays just fine.
Happy day.
Edited by Friendly Fire - 9/22/13 at 2:45pm
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interesting setup, Friendly Fire - my Comcast DVR goes HDMI into my onkyo 929 (as does my 103) - then through a Darbee into a samsung 8500 plasma. The Onkyo HDMI input for the DVR is on bypass so I don't need to turn on the Onkyo just to watch TV, but still get the Darbee in the circuit.

do you think I'd get a better picture putting the DVR into the 103, then out to the Onkyo (maybe HDMI 1 out to the bypassed hdmi in on the Onkyo, HDMI 2 out to the BD input?) - just don't want to have to turn on the 103 to watch TV, but maybe I should live with that....

Thanks
Ian
post #11860 of 16416
Joined club Oppo today, with a BDP-103 added to my system. Looks amazing so far! Coming from just using the PS3, previously.

Now, of course, I want a new tv to get the most out of the improved picture quality.
post #11861 of 16416
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Originally Posted by iang153 View Post

interesting setup, Friendly Fire - my Comcast DVR goes HDMI into my onkyo 929 (as does my 103) - then through a Darbee into a samsung 8500 plasma. The Onkyo HDMI input for the DVR is on bypass so I don't need to turn on the Onkyo just to watch TV, but still get the Darbee in the circuit.

do you think I'd get a better picture putting the DVR into the 103, then out to the Onkyo (maybe HDMI 1 out to the bypassed hdmi in on the Onkyo, HDMI 2 out to the BD input?) - just don't want to have to turn on the 103 to watch TV, but maybe I should live with that....

Thanks
Ian

Ian,

I was a doubter until I used the Oppo for processing the DVR output. Having the Oppo on does not seem to be a problem. When you have a Blu Ray to watch, switch it with the Oppo remote input control right up by the Power button and Open Tray. Very easy.

Try it.
post #11862 of 16416
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Originally Posted by Obsidians View Post

Joined club Oppo today, with a BDP-103 added to my system. Looks amazing so far! Coming from just using the PS3, previously.

Now, of course, I want a new tv to get the most out of the improved picture quality.

Hey, the Oppo upconverts to 4K. Just saying, since you are in the market for a new display. smile.gif

I tell you, this can keep a man broke.
post #11863 of 16416
Thanks - sounds promising, and I will try it - so that 'input' button on the remote will switch between hdmi input and disc - interesting...

I was initially thinking of running one 103 HDMI output to the bypassed Onkyo input so I can watch tv without the receiver and the other to the onkyo bluray input, but I see that only HDMI 1 has video processing, so that would probably mean running only HDMI 1 to the onkyo - need to decide whether to make that input bypassed...

Thanks again,
Ian
Edited by iang153 - 9/22/13 at 4:27pm
post #11864 of 16416
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

I don't use oShare, so I just downloaded it from here, unzipped it, and ran oShare.exe in the oShare_Release_V1.01 folder. When I ran it, an icon for oShare showed up in my Windows system tray and the oShare UI opened.

If you click on the big + button, it will allow you to select a folder you want to share and you should then be all set.

If you close the UI, you can right click on the oShare icon (which looks like ) in the system tray and select "Show window" to get back to the UI. Or you can run oshareUI.exe in the oShare_Release_V1.01\oShare folder.

If I run oShare.exe, an icon momentarily appears in my system tray, but that's all that happens. If I run oSHareUI.exe, I get the icon in my system tray, and that's it. No UI window, no big + button. If I click on the system tray icon, the oSHare icon in the Taskbar lights up, but nothing else happens. Right-clicking on the system tray icon, gives me a choice of "Hide Window" or "Exit." But there is no visible window; it's not behind any other open windows, it's not minimized--it's invisible!

I have tried deleting oShare and downloading it again. I have tried moving the oShare files to the same directory where I keep my music files. Nothing... All I get is an icon in the system tray, and the oShare logo in the Taskbar.
post #11865 of 16416
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Originally Posted by pbarach View Post

If I run oShare.exe, an icon momentarily appears in my system tray, but that's all that happens. If I run oSHareUI.exe, I get the icon in my system tray, and that's it. No UI window, no big + button. If I click on the system tray icon, the oSHare icon in the Taskbar lights up, but nothing else happens. Right-clicking on the system tray icon, gives me a choice of "Hide Window" or "Exit." But there is no visible window; it's not behind any other open windows, it's not minimized--it's invisible!

I have tried deleting oShare and downloading it again. I have tried moving the oShare files to the same directory where I keep my music files. Nothing... All I get is an icon in the system tray, and the oShare logo in the Taskbar.

Sounds kind of like the server is not loading, possible because some Windows process is blocking it. No doubt a security or sharing setting.
post #11866 of 16416
If someone could direct me to a thread or posts about the following (or perhaps answer directly) I would appreciate it very much -

I do a lot of streaming from my NAS of my movie archive (1080p stuff) that are mostly m2ts files and a few mkv. I am trying to figure out how to be able to stop playing a movie part way and come back to play it later where I last left off. Can the Oppo do this? Is there a bookmark feature or a way to use chapters at least on streamed files?

I use to have Dune media player and it was pretty easy to "play from where last left off" but alas, Oppo may have it but I sure can't figure it out.

Thanks in advance and otherwise, I remain extremely happy with the Oppo and will soon be testing out hooking up my TiVo 3 to it to see how it handles native dvr stored TiVo and letting Oppo handle the upscaling to 1080p for my TV.
post #11867 of 16416
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Originally Posted by Phrehdd View Post

If someone could direct me to a thread or posts about the following (or perhaps answer directly) I would appreciate it very much -

I do a lot of streaming from my NAS of my movie archive (1080p stuff) that are mostly m2ts files and a few mkv. I am trying to figure out how to be able to stop playing a movie part way and come back to play it later where I last left off. Can the Oppo do this? Is there a bookmark feature or a way to use chapters at least on streamed files?

I use to have Dune media player and it was pretty easy to "play from where last left off" but alas, Oppo may have it but I sure can't figure it out.

Thanks in advance and otherwise, I remain extremely happy with the Oppo and will soon be testing out hooking up my TiVo 3 to it to see how it handles native dvr stored TiVo and letting Oppo handle the upscaling to 1080p for my TV.

Are you running current firmware? I noticed that a resume for media files began working recently.

This would be for local storage and SMB; I doubt if it is feasible for DLNA, or at least would require additional effort in the firmware. (Actually, I should check that).

No chapters in M2TS files, of course.

The GOTO button allows you to jump to specific times (or chapters, where they exist) but you have to do your own remembering for each title.

-Bill
post #11868 of 16416
I'll try the goto button with m2ts files via non DLNA. Normally I use DLNA from my NAS (Twonky) but I can connect without it.

So I gather no way to book mark eh?
post #11869 of 16416
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Originally Posted by Phrehdd View Post

So I gather no way to book mark eh?

No, don't think so. Resume points are automatic for DVDs and Blu-rays without java.

-Bill
post #11870 of 16416
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Originally Posted by xmas111 View Post

Hi guys,

I've searched through a lot of this 396 page thread and can't find an answer to my problem so hopefully someone can help.

I have the 103 setup with split A/V. HDMI 1 goes to the Pioneer 5020 and HDMI 2 goes to my Onkyo TX-NR809.

Now all of a sudden I can't get the Onkyo OSD to show up on the screen. It shows on the receiver only. I think this happened once before but I can't swear to it.

Anyone have a suggestion I can try to get the Onkyo OSD to show up on the screen again??

Many thanks in advance!

John
How would the OSD for your receiver get to the TV, given how you are hooked up?
HDMI video connections go in one direction and you have two cables. (Audio CAN go the other way with ARC - but we will ignore that for now. It is not relevant to this issue)
One cable is carrying video from the Oppo to the Receiver
The other cable is carrying video from the Oppo to the TV

So, there is no video path from the Receiver to the TV.
Hence - any video that originates at or passes through the receiver has no way to get to the TV.
OSD for the Onkyo originates on the Onkyo.


You have a couple of choices:
1) Bag the second connection from the Oppo and route the video from the Oppo THROUGH the receiver, (so hook Oppo to receiver and then receiver to TV)
OR
2) Add yet another connection from receiver to another input on the TV, and then you will get the OSD on another input to your TV.
This is very clunky, since you will have to switch inputs on the TV to see the OSD.
post #11871 of 16416
Originally Posted by 4mula1 View Post

If I have an MKV file and Cinavia kicks in, I remux. There is a check box for chapters (Keeping the same chapters as the BD). I uncheck that since the 103 automatically sets up 10 chapters if something doesn't have chapters. And when I play that remuxed MKV, Cinavia does not kick in.
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Originally Posted by AYColumbia View Post

That makes no sense. There's got to be something else going on here. Contact Oppo and work out the details directly with them.

Nothing really to work out with Oppo. If I watch an MKV and Cinavia kicks in, I know what to do to resolve it. And, the resolution works every time.
post #11872 of 16416
Has anyone used a headphone amplifier with the OPPO 103 ?

Since I converted my Pioneer SC65 to a "Pre-Amp" - - now paired with a Wyredf4Sound MMC-7 amplifier, I have turned off the amp to the receiver. BUT!!! that is where the headphone jack is - - and turning the amp on and off is a major pain coupled with the 12v trigger to my Wyred4Sound amplifier. The goal is to bypass the receiver and amplifier when listening to my headphones.

So - I ordered a Bravo Audio Ocean Mini Valve Class A Tube Headphone Amplifier from Amazon and will use the "Analog" out from the OPPO to the Bravo Mini Class A Headphone Amplifier and bypass my Pioneer AVR (now in "PreAmp" mode) as well as the Wyred4Sound amplifier.

Bob Pariseau (AVS Gold Member) has been very helpful (as he always is) in answering some of my questions via PM, but I was curious if anyone else in the OPPO community has added a headphone amplifier to their setup and what their experience has been.

From my understanding, the Analog outputs are always "live" from the OPPO and if I were to play an SACD or Redbook CD from the OPPO to the headphone amplifier, bypassing the receiver and amplifier (both "Off") - I suppose that two signals would be simultaneously sent - - one via HDMI to my AVR (In Pre-Amp Mode - turned off) and the other to the headphone amplifier.

Thx - Rico
post #11873 of 16416
^ Correct, both the Analog and HDMI audio are live simultaneously in normal use.

There is no setting to turn off the Analog audio output. However, if desired, you can turn off the HDMI Audio output (leaving just HDMI video) by setting HDMI Audio OFF. Both Analog and HDMI audio are capable of handling all or the content types the player can play -- at full quality. Content related output limitations only exist on the Optical/Coax (SPDIF) digital audio outputs.

In addition, when DSD-Direct-to-Analog Conversion is engaged for SACD playback (i.e., you have SACD Output DSD set, and your HDMI audio device is also capable of handling HDMI DSD as an input format) then audio processing is bypassed in the OPPO for the Analog outputs. E.g., no Crossover processing, no speaker distance adjustments applied, no down-mixing.
--Bob
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ Correct, both the Analog and HDMI audio are live simultaneously in normal use.

There is no setting to turn off the Analog audio output. However, if desired, you can turn off the HDMI Audio output (leaving just HDMI video) by setting HDMI Audio OFF. Both Analog and HDMI audio are capable of handling all or the content types the player can play -- at full quality. Content related output limitations only exist on the Optical/Coax (SPDIF) digital audio outputs.

In addition, when DSD-Direct-to-Analog Conversion is engaged for SACD playback (i.e., you have SACD Output DSD set, and your HDMI audio device is also capable of handling HDMI DSD as an input format) then audio processing is bypassed in the OPPO for the Analog outputs. E.g., no Crossover processing, no speaker distance adjustments applied, no down-mixing.
--Bob

Bob - if I understand this correctly - - I can use the Bravo Audio Ocean Mini Valve Class A Tube Headphone Amplifier the following ways:

(1) Headphone only - - OPPO 103 RCA Out (LF/RF) to the Bravo Class A Tube Headphone Amplifier and then just plug in the Headphones. AVR (Pioneer SC65) & Wyred4Sound MMC-7 (Amplifier) are "OFF."

(2) Speakers - OPPO 103 RCA Out (LF/RF) to the Bravo Class A Tube Headphone Amplifier, then RCA Out from the Headphone Amplifier to the Analog inputs (CD) to my AVR Receiver (Pioneer SC65) - which is in "Pre-Amp" mode with the separate amplifier. Then, choose "CD" and input from my AVR Pioneer Receiver (Pre-Amp mode) and the AVR Pioneer SC65 & Wyred4Sound MMC-7 Amplifier are "ON."

I can turn off HDMI Audio Output and be able to listen to multichannel SACD & Redbook CD with the "tube" sound.

Plus - - I could get DSD direct from the OPPO to the Pioneer AVR (Pre-Amp) Analog out to Analog in on the Pioneer ???
post #11875 of 16416
^ DSD is a digital audio format. It is never present on Analog audio connections. When you play an SACD (which is DSD digital data on disc), you have a choice of having the DSD converted directly to Analog for output, or going through the intermediate step of converting to LPCM first -- another digital format -- before conversion to Analog for output. Going through the LPCM step -- the normal way to do it -- allows the OPPO to do all its normal audio processing on the Analog output -- stuff like down-mixing.

I don't understand why you are trying to make this so complicated. Now you want to have the Headphones amp *ALSO* output to your AVR? Meh. Just use HDMI audio to the AVR to drive your normal speakers and use the stereo Analog output configuration to the Headphones amp to drive just the Headphones
--Bob
post #11876 of 16416
I should have included that, sorry, I am using a Rotel RSP 1570 processor and my HDMI cables I bought from Amazon as everyone convinced me that the $200 cables were simply not needed.
Steve
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Originally Posted by 4mula1 View Post

Originally Posted by 4mula1 View Post
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Nothing really to work out with Oppo. If I watch an MKV and Cinavia kicks in, I know what to do to resolve it. And, the resolution works every time.
You seem hesitant to want to contact Oppo for whatever reason. In cases like this you want to contact them to make them aware of a possible bug. It not only helps you but helps everyone else who may be experiencing the issue. Your "solution" isn't really an ideal solution but a way to work around a possible bug.

Here's Oppo's response to my inquiry:
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"Cinavia should only be detected at this time with Blu-ray backups which rely on m2ts/ts files. MKV and other sources should not engaged Cinavia protection, but this can change at any time."
post #11878 of 16416
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Originally Posted by AYColumbia View Post

You seem hesitant to want to contact Oppo for whatever reason. In cases like this you want to contact them to make them aware of a possible bug. It not only helps you but helps everyone else who may be experiencing the issue. Your "solution" isn't really an ideal solution but a way to work around a possible bug.

Here's Oppo's response to my inquiry:

Not hesitant at all. This is not a bug. Cinavia is mandated by the studios, nothing Oppo can do about it. I have just found a work around is all.
post #11879 of 16416
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ DSD is a digital audio format. It is never present on Analog audio connections. When you play an SACD (which is DSD digital data on disc), you have a choice of having the DSD converted directly to Analog for output, or going through the intermediate step of converting to LPCM first -- another digital format -- before conversion to Analog for output. Going through the LPCM step -- the normal way to do it -- allows the OPPO to do all its normal audio processing on the Analog output -- stuff like down-mixing.

I don't understand why you are trying to make this so complicated. Now you want to have the Headphones amp *ALSO* output to your AVR? Meh. Just use HDMI audio to the AVR to drive your normal speakers and use the stereo Analog output configuration to the Headphones amp to drive just the Headphones
--Bob

As always, thanks for your help. My only interest was in seeing if the "Tube" effect is a warmer sound than the "Digital" sound. (Or a combination of digital/tube). That was the only reason for the output to the AVR. I wasn't trying to make it complicated. Thx again.
post #11880 of 16416
If OPPO says:
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MKV and other sources should not engaged Cinavia protection, but this can change at any time.

...I think that is not correct. I see Cinavia detected in MKV when the file is on optical disc, but not otherwise.

But it can definitely change at any time.

-Bill
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