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post #12271 of 16382
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Originally Posted by tokyoav View Post

I have a BDP-103 connected to a Yamaha RX-A2010, which has HQV Vida video processor. Does anyone has any recommendations on whether I should do both video+audio through the Yamaha or connect video directly to the TV? Any recommended settings on either the OPPO or Yamaha?
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Originally Posted by AndrewFG View Post

Normally 1) there is no benefit in connecting the Oppo separately to both the TV and the Yamaha (triangle connection); it complicates the handshaking, and it requires an extra cable wink.gif

You should continue using a chain connection (Oppo -> Yamaha -> TV), and set the Yamaha for "video pass through"; then the Yamaha is only processing the audio and not "messing" with the video...

1) Strictly speaking, there is a case where you might need to use a triangle connection; namely if you watch 3D movies and if the Yamaha is too old to support HDMI v1.4 3D video pass through; I don't know your Yamaha's specifications so you need to check that yourself...
There could be another good reason to "triangulate".

Like tokyoav, I also have a 103 and a Yamaha RX-A2010 -- which, although I don't care about 3D, is HDMI v1.4 3D compliant.

Even so, I still "split" the Oppo's HDMI output (HDMI1 directly to my non-3D 58" Samsung plasma, and HDMI2 to the A2010). I also have a DirecTV "Genie" (along with a Toshiba HD-XA2 HD-DVD player) connected to the A2010, via its other HDMI inputs... and the HDMI output from the A2010 goes into a second HDMI input on the plasma.

I do not, by the way, "stream" anything. I'm purely a "shiny-disc" guy... so I never watch films on TV. I do watch the morning news, a fair amount of sports, and a couple of TV shows, though... which leads me to my point.

There have been hundreds of posts in this thread about improving cable/satellite TV video quality by running the HDMI outputs from the TV boxes through the Oppo's inputs. Personally, I've always found these posts to be confusing, because to my eyes, the HD output from the "Genie" couldn't possibly be better... and I believe it's because the A2010 is doing just as good of a job of upscaling the Genie's output as the 103 would.

So in my "split" situation... allowing the A2010's video processing abilities to remain "on", I get the benefit of best-possible-quality "televised" video from the DirecTV box, without the Yamaha "messing" with the HDMI video output from the 103 at all, when I'm watching a Blu-ray.
post #12272 of 16382
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

The difference is not in the QDEO, but in the MediaTek decoder. The BDP-103 uses the MediaTek decoder for all de-interlacing, scaling, and frame conversion. The QDEO is only used for Contrast Enhancement, Noise Reduction, and 4K scaling (exclusive to the BDP-10x series)

On the BDP-93 all de-interlacing, scaling, and frame conversion were done through the QDEO, as well as the same video enhancement algorithms.
Thanks for the response. Do you have any inside information or idea as too why Oppo went this route? Is qdeo not superior to mediatek, and this a retrograde step? Thanks.
post #12273 of 16382
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Originally Posted by leev View Post

Thanks for the response. Do you have any inside information or idea as too why Oppo went this route? Is qdeo not superior to mediatek, and this a retrograde step?
It's an improvement.

The 103 and 93 use different MediaTek chipsets and one of the items that was vastly improved with the MediaTek SOC used in the 103 is video processing (de-interlacing/scaling) and thus the change.
post #12274 of 16382

Ok guys ...what ever video I play from you tube through the Oppo to my 4k sony tv gets distorted when i set the resolution at 4kx2k.

 

I called Oppo, and they said the video has to be 24fps.

 

Does anyone here edit and export videos in Adobe premiere @24fps?

 

I wonder what the best sequence and export settings are?

post #12275 of 16382
how can i input my regular COMCAST cable (coaxial) to as input to 103 so i can get benefit of 103 ....
post #12276 of 16382
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Originally Posted by dhobi View Post

how can i input my regular COMCAST cable (coaxial) to as input to 103 so i can get benefit of 103 ....

You can not. You need a Comcast set top box with an HDMI output that you can connect to an HDMI Input on the OPPO.
--Bob
post #12277 of 16382
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Originally Posted by B 26354 View Post

So in my "split" situation... allowing the A2010's video processing abilities to remain "on", I get the benefit of best-possible-quality "televised" video from the DirecTV box, without the Yamaha "messing" with the HDMI video output from the 103 at all, when I'm watching a Blu-ray.

Does your A2010 not have a different "pass through" / "messing" setting for each HDMI input separately? Or is it a global setting covering all inputs?

(Personally I have a Yamaha A820 where this is indeed a global setting for all inputs; but I assumed that the high end models had more features).
post #12278 of 16382
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Originally Posted by B 26354 View Post

So in my "split" situation... allowing the A2010's video processing abilities to remain "on", I get the benefit of best-possible-quality "televised" video from the DirecTV box, without the Yamaha "messing" with the HDMI video output from the 103 at all, when I'm watching a Blu-ray.
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Originally Posted by AndrewFG View Post

Does your A2010 not have a different "pass through" / "messing" setting for each HDMI input separately? Or is it a global setting covering all inputs?

(Personally I have a Yamaha A820 where this is indeed a global setting for all inputs; but I assumed that the high end models had more features).
I have the RX-A2010 and truth be told I leave the video processing on for all inputs, including the 103. It seems like with a 1080p input the HQV does little, if any thing, to the image with the VP turned on but the image "enhancements" all left off or at zero. It appears to simply de-interlace and scale the video but with 1080p there's nothing to do.

On the A2010 you can change the VP settings on a per input basis using different Video Processing Presets (p. 97 and 115 of the manual)

You can also have the video processing totally turned on/off on different inputs by assigning the Oppo to a specific "Scene" which globally retains all settings.
Edited by bluechunks - 10/10/13 at 5:23am
post #12279 of 16382
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Originally Posted by SeeMoreDigital View Post

Out of interest. Have any of you tried backing-up these problem DVD-A discs and playing them via a different transport system?

It's only one, solitary, DVD-A Disc -- Elv1s 30 no. 1 hits. Don't have any problems with any other DVD-A, SACD, HDCD, Pancakes, or grated cheese coming out of the Oppo. I love it.

Oppo is aware of the issue with this disc, according to the thread here, and will at an undetermined point in the future, fix it.

Also I like your use of "transport system!" It's like I have Scotty helping out on the thread. Sweet.

From what I've read, this a peculiar issue to the disc. I know it plays on other transport systems. I have an older transport system that is not an Oppo. Not worth the trouble of trying another transport system.

I'm officially a member of this thread, now. TRANSPORT SYSTEMS FTW
post #12280 of 16382
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

RAPPER58,
ALL HDTVs perform de-interlacing and scaling. They have to.

The question is which device does those tasks at higher quality? The source (e.g. Tivo), the video processor (e.g., the OPPO in this case), or the TV?
--Bob

I send my Directv thru the Oppo, set to Native (720p/1080i) and the Oppo outputting 1080p/60. My thinking here is not that the VT50 is "bad" at it, but that the MT SoC has already been tested by many to be good in this regard. What that means for me is that at the least the scaling and deinterlacing is being performed as well as the display, if not better. Can I see any differences? Havent looked and dont care to worry with it. When I got to sleep at night I feel Ive made the best possible decision to eek what I can out of the video chain PQ wise. Ive already tested the HQV in the Onkyo 818 and it mucks with things, even at 1080p. so the Onkyo is set to Direct so its not doing anything.

So the 103 gets 720p/60 ycbcr 444 and 1080i/60 ycbcr 444 in, sends out 1080p/60 ycbcr 444 to the Onkyo which passes it thru. Not much else I can do to ensure maximum performance. The other nice thing about going thru the Oppo with the DVR is, I can hit info at any time and get a report of whats coming into the Oppo exactly (audio and video), and whats leaving it smile.gif
post #12281 of 16382
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

That's a known bug with SMB: the player is not sorting the file list from the server and not all servers send sorted lists. It applies to all file types. We hope for a fix in future firmware.

If you are using Samba there is a server-side parameter you can set to make the server sort the list: search this thread for "vfs objects = dirsort".

-Bill

I just started playing some dsf and dff files on my samba server and ran into this directory sort problem. Unfortunately placing the 'vfs objects = dirsort' setting in my smb.conf file on my server causes the server to no longer allow client access (if I remember it correctly...I plan to try it again tonight when I get home).

So, my question is: is this still a planned future firmware fix?
post #12282 of 16382
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Originally Posted by bwillcox View Post

I just started playing some dsf and dff files on my samba server and ran into this directory sort problem. Unfortunately placing the 'vfs objects = dirsort' setting in my smb.conf file on my server causes the server to no longer allow client access (if I remember it correctly...I plan to try it again tonight when I get home).

So, my question is: is this still a planned future firmware fix?

SMB sorting fix is in the current beta firmware.
post #12283 of 16382
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

SMB sorting fix is in the current beta firmware.

Cool...I guess I now have a reason to upgrade to the beta firmware. smile.gif
post #12284 of 16382
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Originally Posted by SeeMoreDigital View Post

How about you provide detailed information about some of your 'remux' files by using an application called MediaInfo (set to text mode). And post what it reports, IN FULL as a text (.txt) file within 'spoilers'....

I don't have any remux files downloaded to check them with media info.
How about this for starters:
Audio Info

Codec................: DTSMA

Bitrate..............: Variable

kHz/bit..............: 48 kHz / 24-bit

Channels.............: 5.1

Language.............: English

Video Info

Format...............: AVC

Format Info..........: Advanced Video Codec

Codec ID.............: V_MPEG4/ISO/AVCx264

Type.................: 1080p

Format Profile Level.: High @ 4.1

Resolution...........: 1920x1040

Aspect Ratio.........: 16/9

Bitrate..............: 19.5 Mbps

Fps..................: 23.976 fps

Will the Oppo play mkvs with Hd audio codecs via dlna?
post #12285 of 16382
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Originally Posted by spawnofwar1600 View Post


Will the Oppo play mkvs with Hd audio codecs via dlna?

Yes, although there is an issue with the player being set to Bitstream vs LPCM; what are you using now? Try the other.

If still no good, copy the file to local storage to see with the DLNA server is the issue.

-Bill
post #12286 of 16382

Quick audio question about DNLA and transcoding. Do I need to transcode?

 

I'm trying to wirelessly stream 24/192 flac, wav, aiff  files through Plex. Do I need fix the transcoding preference to 24/192? I'm having a hard time finding out what I need to do to make sure I'm doing this right. I can always connect through a usb to my Peachtree, but being able to do this with my android through the Oppo is so much more convenient, obviously.  If Plex downsamples (and from my research it does not), are there any other media servers that would be better to suit my needs? 

 

I LOVE the Oppo. Yes, it's a lot of money for me, and mainly 2 channel music, but I think I made a great choice. Everything not only sounds better, but it looks better. I'm happy...........just a little confused as I'm new to all this.

 

Thanks

post #12287 of 16382
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Originally Posted by robcentola View Post

Quick audio question about DNLA and transcoding. Do I need to transcode?

I'm trying to wirelessly stream 24/192 flac, wav, aiff  files through Plex. Do I need fix the transcoding preference to 24/192? I'm having a hard time finding out what I need to do to make sure I'm doing this right. I can always connect through a usb to my Peachtree, but being able to do this with my android through the Oppo is so much more convenient, obviously.  If Plex downsamples (and from my research it does not), are there any other media servers that would be better to suit my needs? 

I LOVE the Oppo. Yes, it's a lot of money for me, and mainly 2 channel music, but I think I made a great choice. Everything not only sounds better, but it looks better. I'm happy...........just a little confused as I'm new to all this.

Thanks

General rule for DNLA servers is to turn off any and all transcoding.
post #12288 of 16382
has anyone been able to get audio to zone 2 from the oppo via hdmi only from computer connection? currently i have to run am hdmi and also an analog connection from zone 2 to get audio to go over the zone 2 whole house audio ceiling speakers when plugging in my laptop from zone 2 baluns. It's really not great cause its only mini jack rca to regular rca connector to balun along with hdmi for the video. That would be so cool...i am hoping maybe a new receiver like the elite sc 79 might finally be able to do this but the 103 or 105 might be able to too. Wondering if anyone has been working on this.
post #12289 of 16382

Just to make sure I have this right: Turn off the trascoding in the Oppo and then check and see if I can in Plex? 

 

Unfortunately I'm still at work and try this till I get home. I'm not sure if I can with the Plex. I'm still at work because I've been so focused on all this. Fun but obsessive.  

post #12290 of 16382
Thread Starter 
Transcoding is turned off on the DLNA server, not the player. This is why I recommended using oShare since it does not do any transcoding. It will share the raw data to the player.
post #12291 of 16382
does j river do any transcoding?
post #12292 of 16382
Thread Starter 
It may be configurable to do so, but don't know what kind of settings are available on that piece of software.
post #12293 of 16382

Sweet. I'll try it.

 

I need to get this right before my speakers are completed!

post #12294 of 16382

Damn. PC only. I'm stuck with a mac. Not as audiophile friendly as PC. At least from what I see....

post #12295 of 16382
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Originally Posted by robcentola View Post

Damn. PC only. I'm stuck with a mac. Not as audiophile friendly as PC. At least from what I see....
J River has a new version for Mac. It can also be configured to transcode or not transcode - it has all sorts of options.
post #12296 of 16382
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Yes, although there is an issue with the player being set to Bitstream vs LPCM; what are you using now? Try the other.

If still no good, copy the file to local storage to see with the DLNA server is the issue.

-Bill
I use lpcm right now, find that i get more detail when the player is doing the decoding, low frequencies are more fast and the sub sounds more agile.
Im downloading saving private ryan with DTSMA ! Would be great if it works
post #12297 of 16382
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Originally Posted by Lotus00 View Post

does j river do any transcoding?
It takes about 30 seconds to configure the DLNA server in JRMC to drop all transcoding.

I am currently streaming multichannel (mostly 5.1) and hi-res (96/24 and a few 192/24) flacs, as well as a large collection of ALACs and quite a few MKVs, all with zero transcoding, to my BDP-103 from JRMC with no issues. The JRemote app for the iPad makes it even better. Definitely the best combination of controller app and server out there right now, even considering Plex (which is also pretty good).

This isn't fanboy talk here. I have personally tried about a dozen or more different DLNA servers on Windows and OS X, with another half-dozen iPad controllers, over the past year. JRMC+JRemote worked the best, by far, with my BDP-103. Plex and its iPad app were a distant-but-respectable second. Nothing else even came close after that.
post #12298 of 16382
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

J River has a new version for Mac. It can also be configured to transcode or not transcode - it has all sorts of options.
The Mac version is music-only. In my last test of it (about 6 weeks ago), it was still a bit shaky stability-wise.
I am sure it is improving rapidly, but if you want to do movies and TV shows in addition to music...

My server (Media, DNS, Email, File Sharing, VPN, etc.) is a Mac Mini running OS X (Mtn Lion) Server with two SSDs internally and a Promise Pegasus 8TB RAID connected via Thunderbolt.

I run Win7 in a "bootcamp VM" using VMWare Fusion on this box with no issues.
(I needed Windows for a couple of other things - like a "real" version of Quicken - anyway).
The Windows version of JRMC 19 runs great in the VM.
post #12299 of 16382
Is there a rack mount kit for the OPPO BDP-103?


BTW:
I got my Roku stick in and used it on my OPPO 103 for Amazon Instant streaming. Thanks for the tip guys!

The stick runs really hot and feels like it's going to melt, but I guess that's normal?

The interface isn't the best for Roku on OPPO, but at least it uses the same remote.
It's kinda slow and klunky, haven't done much video streaming/testing yet.
post #12300 of 16382
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Originally Posted by Sterling View Post

Is there a rack mount kit for the OPPO BDP-103?
Not from Oppo, but Middle Atlantic has a line of custom rack mount shelves with faceplates custom cut for the component you're installing.
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