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My Oppo sends LPCM to my Pioneer 1522 and it sounds better, to me, than letting it bitstream out to the Pioneer. Pioneer is set to "Direct."
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I'm having a big problem playing variable frame rate MKV files over DLNA. (Haven't tried over a USB external HDD, but I'm assuming the result would be the same) On any 720p HD rip of a Top Gear episode I have this problem. When they are aired on TV, they air with the studio portions in the hangar at 50FPS, while all the normal sections air at 25fps. The studio portions play fine, but whenever a normal sections come up the video constantly stutters every 5 seconds. Is there any solution to this problem? Is it possible to change the whole thing to 25fps without transcoding? Maybe that would fix the problem?

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Originally Posted by JazzGuyy View Post

Go into Setup and then enter 0770 on the remote. It should display info about the firmware and the current region. I haven't tried it for a long time so I don't remember exactly what is displayed.


Don't click the OK button unless you want everything reset including the SuperDisk DVD region change. Use the Setup button to escape. Yes, I clicked the OK button.
post #12364 of 16400
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Originally Posted by jlove222 View Post

I'm having a big problem playing variable frame rate MKV files over DLNA. (Haven't tried over a USB external HDD, but I'm assuming the result would be the same)

That's a huge assumption, you need to try the same files via USB to rule out server-side issues.
post #12365 of 16400
Has anyone else experienced audio dropouts when playing World War Z in 3d? My Oppo 103 is connected to my Denon AVP-A1HDCI processor via HDMI 1. Deep Color on the Oppo is set to Off, audio set to bitstream. My display is the Panasonic 65ZT60.

Thanks,

R
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Thread Starter 
Drop outs are almost universally due to a bad HDMI cable. Try alternative cables as well as going HDMI 1 to the display and HDMI 2 to the receiver.
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Anyone else experiencing less than stellar YouTube performance? I'm connecting to my wifi (N) using the included dongle and any "HD" video will only play for a few seconds before it needs to pause and buffer. The same video set to "HD" on either my PC or laptop, both connecting over wifi play flawlessly.
post #12368 of 16400
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Originally Posted by virii01 View Post

Anyone else experiencing less than stellar YouTube performance? I'm connecting to my wifi (N) using the included dongle and any "HD" video will only play for a few seconds before it needs to pause and buffer. The same video set to "HD" on either my PC or laptop, both connecting over wifi play flawlessly.

WiFi performance changes drastically with very small changes in location, try using the USB extender that Oppo provides and move the receiver around. If you have an android phone with WiFi, check out the app called "Wifi Analyzer". It will help you find the best location and channel .
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There are tons of press reports out about problems with YouTube throughput on different ISPs often varying by time of day. Basically folks are arguing about whether it is the fault of the ISP or YouTube -- unable to keep up with their success.

YouTube evidently handles the feed differently to computers.

So try it at different times to see if it is consistent or not.
--Bob
post #12370 of 16400
I'm a little slow but anyway I just discovered I could burn my SACD DSD files to my 1tb WD portable HD. I'm using Korg Audiogate freeware. It's a beautiful thing. The 100 SACD.s burned perfectly and play perfectly on my BDP 103 through USB input. I really mean perfectly, this is the best sound I have ever heard. It's like listening to the studio master tape right after it was recorded. I've had some very high end systems, so I know good sound. 45 years an audiophile
and a ex consumer electronics' rep.

Anyway I can't figure out how to tag these files. Goggled it and the only program that will tag dsd files is Tag&Rename but when I play the file on the 103 no album art and the titles are in Chinese. Any suggestions?
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Where are you getting the tags from? If nothing else, Tag & Rename will allow for manual entry of tags but there are automated methods as well but I have never tried them with .dsd file.
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I usually go to Amazon.com but not if they don't have the correct cover. Tag & Rename gives you about 6 choices but 90% of the time its Amazon.
I did all 100 albums and the showed up in the program as tagged and showed the right album art but then when I played them in the 103 it was blank with Chinese titles.
What a waste of 2 hours.
There is something about dsd files that cause the Oppo not to pick it up. I think it needs to be imbedded but it doesn't show that option.
post #12373 of 16400
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Originally Posted by spawnofwar1600 View Post

Has anyone connected their ps3 to the 103's hdmi input?
How did you find the performance?
Please share your experiences
I tried it for amazon streaming, It looks better having my ps3 directly connected than running through the oppo. Maybe there are some settings that would make it better. Anyone have any tips?
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Originally Posted by spawnofwar1600 View Post

Has anyone connected their ps3 to the 103's hdmi input?
How did you find the performance?
Please share your experiences
I tried it for amazon streaming, It looks better having my ps3 directly connected than running through the oppo. Maybe there are some settings that would make it better. Anyone have any tips?

1) Make sure the PS3 is set to output YCbCr instead of RGB. Also set YCbCr "SuperWhite" to ON. Those settings will only apply to movies. The PS3's User Interface and many games will force RGB output. It is important that you set the PS3 to "Limited" RGB output to get those looking better. You can leave both Limited RGB and YCbCr with SuperWhite set and the PS3 will switch automatically between them when playing movies.

2) Turn off upscaling in the PS3. Unfortunately you can't turn off de-interlacing of SD content, so you will get 480p output from it for SD-DVDs instead of 480i -- pretty grim, because one of the things the PS3 gets most wrong is de-interlacing.

3) Set the PS3 to LPCM output for Blu-ray. The HDMI Inputs of the OPPO can not accept Bitstream input for TrueHD or DTS-HD MA tracks, so if you set the PS3 to Bitstream output, you will get the lossy, "compatibility track" version of those instead. With LPCM output, the PS3 does the decoding and you get the full, high bit-rate audio track you want into the OPPO.

IMPORTANT NOTE: Connecting the PS3 to the OPPO is like connecting it to a new TV. The PS3 detects the characteristics of the TV it is connected to up front, and REMEMBERS those instead of redoing it every time it is turned on. That means you need to go through the video and audio setup stuff in the PS3 *AGAIN* while it is connected to the OPPO, so it can learn what video resolutions and audio formats the OPPO is able to accept. This is in addition to the settings just described above.

Once you have these things set, play a calibration disc in the PS3 to double check things are working as you want for the video going through the OPPO.
--Bob
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Anyway I can't figure out how to tag these files. Goggled it and the only program that will tag dsd files is Tag&Rename but when I play the file on the 103 no album art and the titles are in Chinese. Any suggestions?

Tags on DSD files appears to be something of a quandary. Initially Oppo didn't recognize any tags at all, now it seems to recognize some. I'd suggest you contact Oppo support and offer to provide a sample file. Unfortunately it'll be up to Mediatek to provide the support. It's my understanding that DSD files only use a specific sort of tag, but this is all pretty new. None of the usual tagging tools will even recognize DSD.
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Oppo literature speaks about not routing cables through an AVR but instead using direct connections: HDMI-1 >> TV, HDMI-2 >> Receiver.

Is there an advantage in sound production to using HDMI instead of an Optical-Toslink cable? Can I get same performance using HDMI-1 >> TV and Optical-Toslink >> Receiver?

 

If the sound needs HDMI, I think I want the cable management advantage of running thru AVR without any processing. But if Toslink is fine, the direct connection is how I've always done it.

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^ The S/PDIF connections (Optical or Coax) have limitations that HDMI does not have. Some are due to their specs and some are due to content licensing constraints (mainly because they don't support Copy Protection). So for example you can't pass multi-channel LPCM on them (by spec they are limited to stereo when using LPCM). Nor can you play SACD content on them -- not even down-sampled -- due to content licensing constraints.

For Blu-ray discs, any attempt to play a high bit-rate audio track will instead result in the lower bit-rate "compatibility" track playing over them instead. This will be traditional (lossy) DD or DTS. Every Blu-ray disc comes with a compatibility track (even if not shown in the disc's own menus) for just such purpose.

The two options available for getting highest quality audio for *ALL* content the OPPO can play are HDMI audio into an appropriate, HDMI-capable AVR, and multi-channel Analog audio into an AVR or pre-amp with multi-channel Analog audio input.

*MOST* people use just HDMI 1 to the AVR, and then HDMI from the AVR to the Display. That's how I do it, for example, through my Anthem Statement D2v pre-pro. The main reason to use dual HDMI cabling from the OPPO is that you want to play a type of video the AVR can't handle -- i.e, 3D video direct to the display on HDMI 1, and HDMI audio to the non-3D-capable AVR on HDMI 2.
--Bob
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Originally Posted by pqwk50 View Post

Oppo literature speaks about not routing cables through an AVR but instead using direct connections: HDMI-1 >> TV, HDMI-2 >> Receiver.
Is there an advantage in sound production to using HDMI instead of an Optical-Toslink cable? Can I get same performance using HDMI-1 >> TV and Optical-Toslink >> Receiver?

If the sound needs HDMI, I think I want the cable management advantage of running thru AVR without any processing. But if Toslink is fine, the direct connection is how I've always done it.
Its the only way to get DTS-Master and Dolby TrueHD otherwise optical will give you DTS and Dolby Digital only or Lossless vs Lossy.
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Thanks a lot guys. I did not know this stuff. Thanks for explaining.

 

Looks like I'll have to get a new AVR after-all so I can route this stuff thru AVR & still get the good Audio.

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Is Netflix Streaming capable of delivering movies with DTS-Master and/or Dolby TrueHD? Or is everything streamed with Dolby Digital?

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Originally Posted by pqwk50 View Post

Is Netflix Streaming capable of delivering movies with DTS-Master and/or Dolby TrueHD? Or is everything streamed with Dolby Digital?

Netflix at present offers up to what's called DD+ 5.1. DD+ is a somewhat higher bit-rate (but still lossy) version of traditional Dolby Digital as found on SD-DVDs.

VUDU offers up to DD+ 7.1.
--Bob
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Bob, I have a new BDP-103 that I've ordered and will be setting up later this week. We have Verizon FiOS that we watch on a Pioneer Kuro plasma. Of course the "high def" that Verizon sends out from the set top box is 1080i. I've been reviewing this BD-103 Owner's thread and have seen several recommendations to run cable through the 103 in order to have it upgraded to 1080P before being sent to the plasma display.

I initially didn't think I'd explore that possibility but reconsidered this past weekend when I was watching some of the LPGA tournament from Malasia and noticed the golf balls in flight had a jaggedly, unfocused appearance. That may just be "canary in the coalmine" telling me that 1080P from the 1080i cable source would be a definite improvement over the 1080i. Is the golf balls in flight one of the improvements I could look forward to if I use the 103 to upgrade the Verizon 1080i?

For any of you who are using the 103 to upgrade your cable video to 1080P, have you seen this type of improvement?
post #12383 of 16400
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Originally Posted by pqwk50 View Post

Thanks a lot guys. I did not know this stuff. Thanks for explaining.

Looks like I'll have to get a new AVR after-all so I can route this stuff thru AVR & still get the good Audio.

If your AVR has multichannel analog inputs and you like its sound, you don't need to replace it, just run a bundle of RCA cables to it from the Oppo. The analog outputs of Oppo players are first-rate, and will give you the full sound quality of a disk's best soundrack, whether multichannel LPCM, Dolby TrueHD, or DTS HD Master Audio.

If your AVR is pre-HDMI, it will probably be 5.1, so you'd run six RCA cables and in the Oppo's multichannel configuration screen you would tell it that you don't have rear surrounds - that will have the Oppo fold those channels' info into the side surround channels. (That screen will also let you set channel trims and distances for each speaker, if your AVR doesn't extend those controls to its multichannel analog inputs.)

This is how I run, and it sounds great.
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Originally Posted by whippersnapper View Post

Bob, I have a new BDP-103 that I've ordered and will be setting up later this week. We have Verizon FiOS that we watch on a Pioneer Kuro plasma. Of course the "high def" that Verizon sends out from the set top box is 1080i.
Actually, it's not Verizon that sends out HD content... it's the broadcast and cable channel networks. Verizon simply delivers that content.

And all of the ABC-associated family (including ESPN family) of broadcast and cable channels as well as the FOX-associated family of broadcast and cable channels (including FX, FMC, etc.) provide their content in 720p resolution, not 1080i. Virtually all the rest of broadcast and cable channels provide their content in 1080i. So what you're watching, 720p or 1080i, depends on the channel you're currently tuned to.

And if your FIOS box is set to display everything at 1080i, including upconverting 720p channels (like ESPN, FOX, etc.) to 1080i (which diminishes their quality), your picture quality while watching 720p is less than optimal. You're probably better off delivering "native" 720p to your Kuro and letting it process it for display at its own native resolution of 1080p, than having the FIOS box convert to 1080i and deliver that faux-1080i to the Kuro where it still must be processed for display at 1080p.

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For any of you who are using the 103 to upgrade your cable video to 1080P, have you seen this type of improvement?
If you feed your Verizon FIOS-delivered 720p/1080i HDTV content through the external HDMI input of the 103 where it is processed and up-converted to 1080p for delivery out the HDMI output of the 103 and then on to your Kuro, you will notice a SIGNIFICANT improvement in picture quality. I am certain you will notice the improvement.

Ideally, you should use the HDMI-1 output of the 103, where you can benefit from the QDEO chip processing and cleaning up the FIOS-provided HDTV content, along with the 103's upconversion to 1080p for delivery to the Kuro.

But for maximum 1080p picture quality out of the 103 you must provide the original untouched "native" 720p or 1080i content that corresponds to the HDTV channel you are watching. Ideally, if possible, for maximum picture improvement and user convenience you want to set your FIOS DVR to deliver "native" 720p or 1080i, and NOT TO DO ANY UPCONVERTING in that FIOS box. This "native" setting will simply automatically pass on the untouched 720p or 1080i channel content through the FIOS box and on to the 103 for processing and upconverting to 1080p. You will not have to do anything yourself manually, if "native" is an available setting on the FIOS box.

The 103 does a superb job of converting 720p to 1080p as well as converting 1080i to 1080p. If your FIOS box does not have a "native" setting, it still is recommended that you manually change (with a FORMAT button on the front panel of the FIOS box??) the output resolution of the box to match the source program resolution of the channel you're watching at that time. I realize this is a nuisance, but if optimal picture quality on your Kuro is your goal, then you must feed 720p or 1080i content to the 103.

So you do not want to feed 720p that's been upconverted/interlaced to 1080i by the FIOS box, and then feed that faux-1080i to the 103 where it will then get deinterlaced up to 1080p. Results will be very inferior on ESPN and FOX sports programs especially, but similarly inferior on any 720p program.

==> You DO want to use the 103 to upconvert "native" 720p/1080i from FIOS for delivery to the Kuro as 1080p.
Edited by DSperber - 10/14/13 at 9:45pm
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Originally Posted by DSperber View Post

Actually, it's not Verizon that sends out HD content... it's the broadcast and cable channel networks. Verizon simply delivers that content.
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Ideally, you should use the HDMI-1 output of the 103, where you can benefit from the QDEO chip processing and cleaning up the FIOS-provided HDTV content, along with the 103's upconversion to 1080p for delivery to the Kuro.
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So you do not want to feed 720p that's been upconverted/interlaced to 1080i by the FIOS box, and then feed that faux-1080i to the 103 where it will then get deinterlaced up to 1080p. Results will be very inferior on ESPN and FOX sports programs especially, but similarly inferior on any 720p program.

==> You DO want to use the 103 to upconvert "native" 720p/1080i from FIOS for delivery to the Kuro as 1080p.

Thanks, very good information. I'll be following your recommendations.
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Latest news about mkv 1080p/24Hz problem

Oppo UK answer (Click to show)
Od: Bjorn OPPO BD UK Ltd
Odoslané: Tue Oct 15 09:18:33 CEST 2013
Predmet: Re: Contact Support

Dear Juraj

The 1080 24p issue has been solved and new firmware will be released
this month.

Best Regards
Bjorn
OPPO European Support Engineer


On 14.10.13 20:14, Juraj M..... wrote:

Dear Bjorn,

Are there news about mkv 1080/24 playback issue ? It is more than two
months now and I am afraid, Oppo has resources realocated for 103 Darbee
edition...

My best
Juraj M..........
Slovakia
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Is there a convenient way to use the Oppo's HDMI input for other sources? I have my universal remote setup such that when I press one button, the video and audio switch correctly. Can I get that one button functionality using Oppo's HDMI input?
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Just got my Oppo BDP-103 player, love it! The picture quality is glorious! But I'm not having any luck getting on to the internet! It picks it up on Auto but is not accepting my password??? Anything I'm missing?
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Originally Posted by Chris Holland2 View Post

Is there a convenient way to use the Oppo's HDMI input for other sources? I have my universal remote setup such that when I press one button, the video and audio switch correctly. Can I get that one button functionality using Oppo's HDMI input?

With a programmable remote you can. See the FAQ: How do I select an INPUT source with a programmable remote?

-Bill
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Originally Posted by Mattyo1612 View Post

Just got my Oppo BDP-103 player, love it! The picture quality is glorious! But I'm not having any luck getting on to the internet! It picks it up on Auto but is not accepting my password??? Anything I'm missing?

More information please.

It picks what up on Auto what?

Password: are you trying to connect to an SMB file server? On what type of server?

Does the Connection Test in Setup work?

-Bill
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