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post #13171 of 16416
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Originally Posted by KC-Technerd View Post

Please see Bob Pariseau's explanation: How the hell does HDMI's "Auto Lip Sync" work?

By the way Bob, why did you think that was a 60ms bug in the player? I've had to set my AVR for 85ms delay on the BDP-103's input, based on testing with the Spears & Munsil Version 2 disc. I have assumed this is an 85ms video delay in my TV (despite being set up for minimal processing with game/text mode), rather than a bug with the Oppo. I experienced a similar delay when using my previous Blu-ray player, but never measured it.


Thank you for that. The thing that I forgot to mention is that I have 2 AVRs in my home, one denon and one yamaha. If I switch to using the denon amp, lipsync is always perfect no matter the source or programming. However, once I switch back to the yamaha, its just aint good no more, even if I manually set it up with a calibration dvd. Its like the lipsync can drift abit. Changing channels, pausing the video and restarting. With yamaha, you sooner or later run into problem. By contrast, if I switch my Philips TV against my friends Sony NX (model from 2011), the yamaha is perfect yet the denon goes bad. Iam starting to belive this is a much bigger issue than people actually recognize....

Too me, it would seem that there is actually something more to auto-lipsync than a simple flag in the HDMI signal being sent from the TV. Techniqal support at Denon told me that auto-lipsync has been improved in HDMI 1.4 compared to HDMI 1.3. So what does that mean?

Anyway, judging from Bobs answer, I should not expect the Oppo player to adjust the audio depending from its dual HDMI output depending on the value being reported by my TV.
post #13172 of 16416
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

It is if you turn it off and forget about it. wink.gif

Cruelly true. smile.gif But I'll still get reminded as Netflix slowly adds delay through an episode I'm watching.
post #13173 of 16416
Having issues with DLNA streaming on OSX. I have installed ps3 mediA server. It is running. But when I try to access the computer it asks for a username and password. I have tried my admin username and password but no luck. What is the username? Is it the computer name or user? Thank you for any help here....
post #13174 of 16416
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Originally Posted by ajvandenb View Post

Having issues with DLNA streaming on OSX. I have installed ps3 mediA server. It is running. But when I try to access the computer it asks for a username and password. I have tried my admin username and password but no luck. What is the username? Is it the computer name or user? Thank you for any help here....
Should clarify: I am using the MediaControl App on the iPad to access the 103. The Mac computer name shows up on the iPad but it asks for username and password but denies no matter what I put in.
Edited by ajvandenb - 11/19/13 at 2:44pm
post #13175 of 16416
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Originally Posted by ajvandenb View Post

Should clarify: I am using the MediaControl App on the iPad to access the 103. The Mac computer name shows up on the iPad but it asks for username and password but denies no matter what I put in.

Well you're not using DLNA then. Media control doesn't see DLNA shares. It only see local and SMB shares. My bet is you have windows sharing with SMB set up on your mac however SMB on the Mac with Lion or above is not compatible with media players. In order to make it compatible you need to install a free 3rd party app called SMBup ... It works but has a few issues and my experience hasn't being great on the Oppo 103(D)
post #13176 of 16416
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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

Well you're not using DLNA then. Media control doesn't see DLNA shares. It only see local and SMB shares. My bet is you have windows sharing with SMB set up on your mac however SMB on the Mac with Lion or above is not compatible with media players. In order to make it compatible you need to install a free 3rd party app called SMBup ... It works but has a few issues and my experience hasn't being great on the Oppo 103(D)
Great thanks for your help. Actually I can see after putting the projector on that the Oppo sees the media server on the Mac, and I can access it. It would be great if I didn't have to put the project on to access the files via the iPad app,, so hopefully it will come in an update...
post #13177 of 16416
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Originally Posted by ajvandenb View Post

Great thanks for your help. Actually I can see after putting the projector on that the Oppo sees the media server on the Mac, and I can access it. It would be great if I didn't have to put the project on to access the files via the iPad app,, so hopefully it will come in an update...
You might give one of the iPad-based DLNA controllers a whirl ... which would let you do what you want with PS3MS now.

Try out Kinsky or AudioRemote (Sony) for starters. (There are others as well. Search for DLNA in the app store.)
Configure them to talk to your server and use the Oppo as renderer. Then you can browse the files that are on your server using the controller that is on your iPad and play them on the renderer that is on your Oppo. ;-)

... and you won't have to have your TV/Monitor turned on...
post #13178 of 16416
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Originally Posted by LairdWilliams View Post

You might give one of the iPad-based DLNA controllers a whirl ... which would let you do what you want with PS3MS now.

Try out Kinsky or AudioRemote (Sony) for starters. (There are others as well. Search for DLNA in the app store.)
Configure them to talk to your server and use the Oppo as renderer. Then you can browse the files that are on your server using the controller that is on your iPad and play them on the renderer that is on your Oppo. ;-)

... and you won't have to have your TV/Monitor turned on...
Great, that seems like exactly what I need...thanks!!!
post #13179 of 16416
Good god, 440 pages, over 13k posts!

Can someone just answer a couple quick questions for me? Any experience going from a PS3 as your main blu-ray player to the Oppo 103? I'm considering upgrading my Yamaha 567 and going full on pre-pro, Emotiva style, and figured I might as well look into upgrading my blu-ray player too. Worth the upgrade?

Would you recommend the Oppo 103 as a pre? (going straight into a couple Emotiva amps) It only has 2 HDMI inputs, but if I need more, I could just use an HDMI Switcher, so that's not an issue.

This review stated this... "Once I switched out an old HDMI cable with the WireLogic "Sapphire," the picture quality suddenly jumped from very good to reference level"

Snakeoil?
Edited by freespace303 - 11/19/13 at 11:15pm
post #13180 of 16416
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Originally Posted by freespace303 View Post



This review stated this... "Once I switched out an old HDMI cable with the WireLogic "Sapphire," the picture quality suddenly jumped from very good to reference level"

Snakeoil?
If the first cable was unable to pass the full band width then you can get the same improvement with this cable.

There are a lot of reasons for switching to an OPPO, but a big difference in Blu-ray picture quality isn't a one of them. There is a topic in one of the OPPO FAQs that does a comparison of all features.
post #13181 of 16416
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

If the first cable was unable to pass the full band width then you can get the same improvement with this cable.

There are a lot of reasons for switching to an OPPO, but a big difference in Blu-ray picture quality isn't a one of them. There is a topic in one of the OPPO FAQs that does a comparison of all features.

THESE are the hdmi cables I currently use. Good enough?

Where is that FAQ at, have a link?
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^ See the top of the first post of this thread for a link to the FAQ.
--Bob
post #13183 of 16416
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ See the top of the first post of this thread for a link to the FAQ.
--Bob

Thanks!!!
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Originally Posted by freespace303 View Post

THESE[/URL] are the hdmi cables I currently use. Good enough?]

They should be good enough (they're certified for 1.4 which is as good as a cable can be) but some people have found that 3-ft cables cause problems in some systems. 6-ft (and greater to about 15 feet) cables don't seem to cause any problems.
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Originally Posted by JazzGuyy View Post

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Originally Posted by freespace303 View Post

THESE[/URL] are the hdmi cables I currently use. Good enough?]

They should be good enough (they're certified for 1.4 which is as good as a cable can be) but some people have found that 3-ft cables cause problems in some systems. 6-ft (and greater to about 15 feet) cables don't seem to cause any problems.

How can a shorter cable cause more problems than a longer one? Doesn't seem logical to me.
post #13186 of 16416
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Originally Posted by freespace303 View Post

How can a shorter cable cause more problems than a longer one? Doesn't seem logical to me.

It's a matter of timing. HDMI transmitter chips expect a certain length of cable (6ft is standard). Shorter is faster which may confuse it.

That said, I use 18" cables to a switch without problems. But the first rule of HDMI is: It is always right on the edge of not working. "Works for me" doesn't help anyone else.

-Bill
post #13187 of 16416
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

...the first rule of HDMI is: It is always right on the edge of not working.
LOL - You should get than engraved on something, Bill.
post #13188 of 16416
I am in a market for bluray drive which I currently have HTPC and I want to use it as reading .mkv files, which one do you guys recommend. I also want to connect it to Epson projector.
post #13189 of 16416
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Originally Posted by jvinhj240 View Post

I am in a market for bluray drive which I currently have HTPC and I want to use it as reading .mkv files, which one do you guys recommend. I also want to connect it to Epson projector.

Are you looking for a drive for your computer? This is the wrong thread for that; try the HTPC forum.

If you are looking for a Blu-ray player we tend to recommend OPPO in the OPPO threads; which one depends on your needs and budget. Or, depending on your needs, we will direct you to the "Help Me Choose a Player" thread.

-Bill
post #13190 of 16416
Regarding the audio issues on the Monsters University disc where the fix is to use multi-channel LPCM instead of bitstream...would the fix for that come from Oppo or Denon (for my receiver)?
post #13191 of 16416
What I am trying to say is I have HTPC which I download movies, I just though OPPO player would play the file .mvk and produce better sound/video than my HTPC. And I think its better GUI than HTPC, dont you think?
post #13192 of 16416
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Originally Posted by globalgreg View Post

Regarding the audio issues on the Monsters University disc where the fix is to use multi-channel LPCM instead of bitstream...would the fix for that come from Oppo or Denon (for my receiver)?

Using mc lpcm is a workaround that you set up on the oppo. Basically turn off hd audio streaming. [Audio Format Setup/HDMI Audio -> LPCM. fwiw, also Secondary Audio -> Off may/not be something you want to do.]

If oppo modifies their firmware so you can stream the disc without issue, then you could turn the hd audio streaming back on again.
post #13193 of 16416
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Originally Posted by fmalczewski View Post

Using mc lpcm is a workaround that you set up on the oppo. Basically turn off hd audio streaming. [Audio Format Setup/HDMI Audio -> LPCM. fwiw, also Secondary Audio -> Off may/not be something you want to do.]

If oppo modifies their firmware so you can stream the disc without issue, then you could turn the hd audio streaming back on again.

I'm well aware of the workaround...I'm just wondering who is at fault and who is most likely to fix the problem. In my case that's Oppo or Denon.
post #13194 of 16416
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Originally Posted by globalgreg View Post

I'm well aware of the workaround...I'm just wondering who is at fault and who is most likely to fix the problem. In my case that's Oppo or Denon.

It would be the bd player. (Though it should be the disc producer, e.g., Disney.)
post #13195 of 16416
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Originally Posted by globalgreg View Post

I'm well aware of the workaround...I'm just wondering who is at fault and who is most likely to fix the problem. In my case that's Oppo or Denon.

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Originally Posted by fmalczewski View Post

It would be the bd player. (Though it should be the disc producer, e.g., Disney.)

I would definitely blame the studios. We are well into the Blu-ray format's life cycle now and they don't have to keep screwing with the implementation.

Who has to cope with this on the hardware side is still mysterious to me. Since only certain combinations of player and AVR exhibit the problem, it could be that both ends need updates.

-Bill
post #13196 of 16416
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Originally Posted by jvinhj240 View Post

What I am trying to say is I have HTPC which I download movies, I just though OPPO player would play the file .mvk and produce better sound/video than my HTPC.

The OPPO does play MKV files.

Better sound and video: that's hard to say without knowing more about your current setup.
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And I think its better GUI than HTPC, dont you think?

Almost certainly not. Don't you have all sorts of choices on the HTPC? The OPPO's GUI is very plain and simple; it has nothing like XBMC, for example.

-Bill
post #13197 of 16416
In regards to the Monster's U blu-ray audio drops, the following is from Oppo:

"For many Disney CG animated films you will need to set the player to LPCM instead of Bit Stream. This will resolve your audio dropouts with these titles. We are working with Dolby to see if there is a way that we can make our firmware fix their mastering mistakes, but we do not know when this may occur.

The issue is either the player is outputting an incorrect Bit Stream signal that the receiver partially rejects, or the receiver is misinterpreting the Bit Stream data which is resulting in the dropouts as it decodes it improperly.

This only occurs with Dolby Digital TrueHD soundtracks that use seamless branching. So far, these titles have been primarily CG Disney films.



And this is from Disney:

Thank you for the e-mail. We are concerned about your inquiry and would like an opportunity to address this issue with greater detail. We are currently researching the issues that you are describing.



At this time there is not a disc replacement for the Blu-ray discs. Hopefully this issue will be able to be resolved with a firmware update for the affected Blu-ray players.



If you have any other questions or concerns, please feel free to reply to this email. You may also contact us at 1-800-723-4763 (US)/1-888-877-2843 (Canada) Monday 9:30-7:30 and Tuesday through Friday 9:30-6:30 CST.
post #13198 of 16416
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Originally Posted by KC-Technerd View Post

I've had to set my AVR for 85ms delay on the BDP-103's input, based on testing with the Spears & Munsil Version 2 disc. I have assumed this is an 85ms video delay in my TV (despite being set up for minimal processing with game/text mode), rather than a bug with the Oppo. I experienced a similar delay when using my previous Blu-ray player, but never measured it.

Apropos your 85mS ...

... When working at 24Hz, one video frame is transmitted every 41mS.
... TVs need two frames in their frame buffer before they can do video interpolation stuff on their outputs.
... So in all probability your 85mS is in fact 82mS.

PS in my case with a Sony HX850 TV, and a Yamaha RX-A820 AVR, and the Oppo, I can definitely say that the Auto lip sync does not work. Even though some or all of those devices claim that they support this feature...

PPS this is one reason why I have my Oppo set to always convert to 24Hz output. Because then I can set my AVR for a fixed lip sync delay (of 82mS). And there is no cause to worry about the lip sync delay changing if source material switches from 24Hz to 50Hz or 60Hz.
Edited by AndrewFG - 11/21/13 at 5:39am
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I've had my 103 for about a year now. I just tried to stream a 3D movie ("The Adventures of Tintin") thru Netflix; it won't display in 3d....I called Netfix support, and they informed me that the OPPO BD-103 is not a 3D supported device at the moment. They said they are partnered with OPPO and that that should be corrected with a software update. I was just wondering if that is true, i.e., any other owners having the same problem, OR, if my cable provider is not giving me enough bandwith, etc......no problem with regular Blu Ray 3D discs......any info would be appreciated.
post #13200 of 16416
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Originally Posted by jmacari View Post

... I just tried to stream a 3D movie ("The Adventures of Tintin") thru Netflix; it won't display in 3d....I called Netfix support, and they informed me that the OPPO BD-103 is not a 3D supported device at the moment. ... I was just wondering if that is true.

I think it is true. Netflix has not rolled out the 3D ability to all Netflix-supported devices. I'd guess it will be available on the 103 in the near future. But that's only a guess. My crystal ball has been cloudy for years.
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