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post #13741 of 16413
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Originally Posted by Gellidius View Post

my friend has an oppo 83.
when she plays music through the oppo, there is always some info on the tv screen about what's playing at the moment.


the oppo is connected directly to the TV and the sound comes out of the tv's speakers.

is there somewhere or some way in the config or on the remote control where only the music would play, but nothing would appear on the screen.

because of this problem, there is now some image retention that is visible on the screen.


i posted this in the Oppo 83 thread too, but i may never get an answer over there...



"Pure Audio" button near top of remote.(At least on the 105, that is.)
post #13742 of 16413
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Originally Posted by obie_fl View Post


I believe the OP was referring to Mezzmo streaming of ISOs. I haven't tried it but as I understand it Mezzmo can in fact stream from an iso, it doesn't require iso support on the player end.

ETA: At first glance I would guess something changed in Boe's Mezzmo configuration rather than the Oppo.
First line of his original post - emphasis is mine. This has nothing to do with ISOs.
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Anyone here try to stream FLAC or MP3s through oshare or mezzo?

And I am having a similar problem, intermittently, with JRiver.
post #13743 of 16413
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Originally Posted by paul54 View Post

"Pure Audio" button near top of remote.(At least on the 105, that is.)

The 83 has that feature, too. And the button is in about the same place.
post #13744 of 16413
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Originally Posted by Gellidius View Post

Is there somewhere or some way in the config, or on the remote control, where only music would play, but nothing would appear on the screen? Because of this problem, there is now some image retention that is visible on the screen.


As paul54 mentioned above, the use of Pure Mode -- activated by pressing the "Pure" button, in the upper left on the remote -- can be used to blank the Oppo 103's (or 105's) video output, during music playback.

The front panel on the Oppo also goes black during Pure Mode use, but the "Light" button (lower right, on the remote) will wake up the front panel display for a few seconds, if you want to check it.

Bob P pointed out this function to me several months ago -- and I use it constantly. My four-year-old 58" Samsung plasma is very susceptible to burn-in, so I have both a 10" 1080p HDMI LCD monitor and the plasma connected to an HDMI splitter, which is connected to my 103's HDMI-1 out. When I'm listening to music from my connected USB drives, the plasma is turned off, and I use the little monitor to navigate the Oppo's music-playback selection-menus... which has saved the big plasma's life. But once a track is playing, I find the music playback screen and its bright blue progress-line too distracting -- even on the little ten-inch screen -- so I either start up a photo slide-show, or -- far more often -- just black out the screen with Pure Mode. Another great Oppo feature!
post #13745 of 16413
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Originally Posted by LairdWilliams View Post

First line of his original post - emphasis is mine. This has nothing to do with ISOs.
And I am having a similar problem, intermittently, with JRiver.

I actually agree, just trying to point out that what SeeMoreDigital said about iso wasn't applicable in this case. The OP was talking about streaming iso with Mezzmo where as I believe SeeMoreDigital was referring to iso support in the player, such as the early BDP-93 firmware. There very well could be something screwy in the latest 103 firmware affecting the DLNA player or renderer, although I haven't noticed it but to be honest I mostly use SAMBA these days.
post #13746 of 16413

Oppo BDP-103 & Pandora Buffering problem

My 103 suddenly began continuous buffering when trying to access Pandora.  All other internet functions like Netflix are not having any problems.  I have spoken to Oppo and none of the fixes they suggested have worked.  Anybody?

post #13747 of 16413
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Originally Posted by bdnewell View Post

My 103 suddenly began continuous buffering when trying to access Pandora.  All other internet functions like Netflix are not having any problems.  I have spoken to Oppo and none of the fixes they suggested have worked.  Anybody?

Well, it's either a problem with Pandora or something else. Maybe even a login issue?
How long has it been doing that? and it does it everytime you try Pandora, even across power cycles?
Have you tried resetting the player to factory default settings?
The only other thing I can think of that may or may not fix it, is to flash the player with the latest fw via a usb flash drive,
even if the player already has the latest fw, you would just re-flash the same version.
post #13748 of 16413
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Originally Posted by obie_fl View Post

I actually agree, just trying to point out that what SeeMoreDigital said about iso wasn't applicable in this case. The OP was talking about streaming iso with Mezzmo where as I believe SeeMoreDigital was referring to iso support in the player, such as the early BDP-93 firmware. There very well could be something screwy in the latest 103 firmware affecting the DLNA player or renderer, although I haven't noticed it but to be honest I mostly use SAMBA these days.
We are in sync on that - ISO has nada to do with it.

I have a similar problem - but much more sporadic (where, for me, it is more of a nuisance than a real problem). That and the fact that I can work around it by "forcing" a re-handshake (changing inputs back and forth on the AVR) makes me think that it is handshake-based. In that case, different AVRs might "experience" the problem differently ,which would explain the differences in my problem and his.

I certainly agree with you as regards the dangers of becoming dependent on "undocumented features" like ISO playback. Being a software engineer and having lived similar pleasantries a few times myself ...
post #13749 of 16413

This has been going on for maybe 3 or 4 weeks now and it does it across power cycles.  I have not tried the factory reset yet hoping that would not be required but I'm thinking I may have to.  Oppo thought I may have router issues like needing a firmware upgrade but everything else works.  The reflash w/firmware is interesting and may be worth a try.  I honestlly can't say if this started right after the most recent upgrade or not.

post #13750 of 16413
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Originally Posted by DSperber View Post
 
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

I have my cable DVR box connected into the Oppo 105 via HDMI-IN and now I see what people were talking about the video quality of TV broadcasts.

But I seem to have a problem where there is a muting in the audio output after a rewind/fast forward of the program material on my DVR. I'm not saying the audio/video are out of sync, its just that there's a 3-5 sec mute before audio is output. In the meantime, the video plays during this mute interval. Is this normal?
Prior to running your DVR (from TWC/LA? and what make/model of DVR do you have? Motorola infrastructure or SA/Cisco?) through your Oppo, when you rewind/FF did this audio muting NOT occur? Surely you never had audio when you were actually FF or REW, because all DVR's will mute during these control functions and only return audio back when the control function is finished. This typically occurs fairly quickly after the normal image once again appears on the screen, but it's not instantaneous.

So is the 3-5 second mute you're describing when now running through your 105 just somewhat longer than you're used to it being when running the DVR directly to your HDTV/AVR?? You're sure it's that long? No exaggeration?? Does it actually vary in duration?

 

 

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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post
 

I own my very own Moxi HD 3-Tuner DVR (TWC is my cable provider) and no, after the fast forward/reverse or skip video, the audio and video came on within a second or so when using my pre-pro(Anthem D2v). But with the Oppo processing in the loop, after a fast forward/reverse or skip the audio is muted closer to 3- 4 seconds while the video is playing. No exaggeration here... After wards, the audio comes back on and everything is fine.

 

 

OK... the problem disappears if I use the Optical Outs of the Oppo for sound into my pre-pro. But if I use HDMI for audio as well, then the mute occurs. Oppo seems to say this is normal but I seriously have my doubts the 3-5 second mute is normal. Anyone using the Oppo for processing their cable/satellite signals?

 

Thanks,

David

post #13751 of 16413

thank you all for your answer about "pure audio".

problem has been solved.

 

:-)

post #13752 of 16413
Hi everyone. Just received my 103 & will agree with everyone that even Oppo's packing is impressive!
Upon turning it on, the unit immediately notified me that an update was available. It didn't take long to download & install. I used mostly defaults in setup but have a question about audio speaker setup. My receiver is a Marantz SA 8002 which has its own surround setup which is nearly identical to the 103's. Is it best to mirror the 103's setup to the Marantz setup? The only change I made was to set the 103's default of Large front L & R to small. I did not tweak any levels as I have in the Marrantz. The blu-ray I tested sound great.
post #13753 of 16413
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Originally Posted by DERG View Post

Hi everyone. Just received my 103 & will agree with everyone that even Oppo's packing is impressive!
Upon turning it on, the unit immediately notified me that an update was available. It didn't take long to download & install. I used mostly defaults in setup but have a question about audio speaker setup. My receiver is a Marantz SA 8002 which has its own surround setup which is nearly identical to the 103's. Is it best to mirror the 103's setup to the Marantz setup? The only change I made was to set the 103's default of Large front L & R to small. I did not tweak any levels as I have in the Marrantz. The blu-ray I tested sound great.
If you're connected to the AVR via HDMI, you don't need to set anything for your speakers. The speaker settings are strictly for analog out connections. With HDMI input, it is your receiver that is doing the audio processing.
post #13754 of 16413
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Originally Posted by JazzGuyy View Post

If you're connected to the AVR via HDMI, you don't need to set anything for your speakers. The speaker settings are strictly for analog out connections. With HDMI input, it is your receiver that is doing the audio processing.

Yes. Now I get it. My old player didn't have analog audio outs. Thanks.
post #13755 of 16413
Do the 'Info' and 'Option' buttons work with audio files played over SMB? They don't on my BDP-103D. The manual is a bit vague about this.
post #13756 of 16413
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Originally Posted by planecrazyf16 View Post

Do the 'Info' and 'Option' buttons work with audio files played over SMB? They don't on my BDP-103D. The manual is a bit vague about this.
In short... No.
post #13757 of 16413
The issue of multiple OPPO's; (Youtube personal settings on more than one OPPO/Youtube application not being saved) are now resolved. OPPO notified Youtube and Youtube fixed in less than 3 days.
post #13758 of 16413

Finally got my Salks yesterday! Man they sound awesome! Played some discs in the Oppo and that worked great. Used it as a DMR and that would great. However, I do have one probelm and I hope I can get a little guidance:

 

I tried to watch some music through Netflix via the Oppo. I have the 103 connected to the Nova Pre via coaxial. When it plays, I get this "click click click" really fast with no music; just the noise. What could this be? Maybe a setting? Everything else works flawlessly. There must be something I'm not doing. 

post #13759 of 16413
So noticed something today that I have never noticed before. I am inputting my TWC Cisco DVR into the HDMI back input on the OPPO and then HDMI2 out to the display. When I push the "info" button that shows what signals are going in at the top vs coming out at the bottom the Incoming signal shows as 4:4:4 36B.....My output shows 4:4:4 24b becasue I have Deep Color "off" on HDMI2 which seemed the norm. Should I turn it on to match the input HDMI setting from the cable box? More importantly has anyone ever seen a cable box show that it is outputting 36b? I don't "See" a difference when I enable 36b or not and since it is cable test pattern confirmation is not possible.


Thanks for any feedback.
post #13760 of 16413
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Originally Posted by darthkringle View Post

So noticed something today that I have never noticed before. I am inputting my TWC Cisco DVR into the HDMI back input on the OPPO and then HDMI2 out to the display. When I push the "info" button that shows what signals are going in at the top vs coming out at the bottom the Incoming signal shows as 4:4:4 36B.....My output shows 4:4:4 24b becasue I have Deep Color "off" on HDMI2 which seemed the norm. Should I turn it on to match the input HDMI setting from the cable box? More importantly has anyone ever seen a cable box show that it is outputting 36b? I don't "See" a difference when I enable 36b or not and since it is cable test pattern confirmation is not possible.


Thanks for any feedback.

My preference is to use 36b (or the highest bit depth available) unless it creates an issue, which would either be sparkles in the picture, audio or video dropouts, or if it lengthens or otherwise causes problems with the HDMI handshakes. These would all be issues of the higher amount of data exceeding the capability of a given HDMI cable. Many prefer setting to 24b to eliminate any of these possible issues. Just like Blu-ray, I doubt there is any source on cable that is more than 24bit. The only advantage from HDMI 2 on the Oppo is if your TV takes advantage of the extra bits for more precise rounding when it's processing the numbers. I've never heard of this creating any measurably visible difference in the picture. If you use HMDI 1 on the Oppo and your TV is capable of displaying bit depths greater than 24 (meaning more levels between black and peak output in each color channel) there is a function of the Marvell QDEO processor that takes advantage of the higher bit depths. This is definitely visible on test patterns, but how much of a difference it makes in real picture content is questionable. In the end, it probably makes very little to no difference which bit depth you select.
post #13761 of 16413
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Originally Posted by darthkringle View Post

So noticed something today that I have never noticed before. I am inputting my TWC Cisco DVR into the HDMI back input on the OPPO and then HDMI2 out to the display. When I push the "info" button that shows what signals are going in at the top vs coming out at the bottom the Incoming signal shows as 4:4:4 36B.....My output shows 4:4:4 24b becasue I have Deep Color "off" on HDMI2 which seemed the norm. Should I turn it on to match the input HDMI setting from the cable box? More importantly has anyone ever seen a cable box show that it is outputting 36b? I don't "See" a difference when I enable 36b or not and since it is cable test pattern confirmation is not possible.


Thanks for any feedback.

More than likely this is some error in the cable box, possibly based on a handshake from the display. Ignore it. If there are any settings in the cable box for color space, have a look at them. But there is absolutely nothing coming out of a cable box that benefits from 36 bit color, and it might even introduce errors.
post #13762 of 16413
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Originally Posted by darthkringle View Post

I am inputting my TWC Cisco DVR into the HDMI back input on the OPPO and then HDMI2 out to the display.
Did you choose HDMI-2 for a reason, i.e. to bypass QDEO processing and only get upconversion to 1080p for delivery to your display?

In my own experience (with TWC/LA, passing my home HTPC signal to the back HDMI input of the Oppo) the additional "cleanup" on TWC's source along with the 1080p upconversion that also occurs on HDMI-1 output produces a superb result on the display. I think that's where QDEO can really help out to improve things, with a somewhat sub-par 720p/1080i HDTV signal from TWC (where it might be further recompressed to a lower bitrate than was originally delivered by the content provider).

You're not getting the benefit of QDEO when you use HDMI-2 out, though I understand it might be preferred for "purists" when watching BluRay specifically because it does NOT apply even the slightest QDEO processing.

Have you tried using HDMI-1 out instead, for TWC source? Do you actually prefer HDMI-2 results?

Anyway, just asking why HDMI-2.
post #13763 of 16413
Has anyone tried using Google's Chromecast with the Oppo? WOuld it work as poor substitute for a Roko? I have an opportunity to get one for free and wonder if its worth it.
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Thread Starter 
Yes, it will work as a "poor substitute" for the Roku.
post #13765 of 16413
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Originally Posted by kendo70433 View Post

The 83 has that feature, too. And the button is in about the same place.

Being an ex Projectionist I call the Pure Audio button the Douser. I have a sequence programmed into one of the coloured buttons of my harmony that I call "Start Show." It combines the Pure Audio and Room Lights commands. This is very useful when playing discs with the annoying "Overture" displayed for three or four minutes. When the music fades out you push one button and the lights go down and the Douser opens! It makes for a more dramatic start. There should NOT be any images during an Overture.

I have another sequence called Stop Show --- Pause/Pure Audio/Lights--- which is good for unplanned interruptions during a movie. A second push and we are away again!
post #13766 of 16413
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Originally Posted by JazzGuyy View Post

If you're connected to the AVR via HDMI, you don't need to set anything for your speakers. The speaker settings are strictly for analog out connections. With HDMI input, it is your receiver that is doing the audio processing.

Just a point of interest: if you have RCA cables coming out of your L & R analog ports, for something like a sound source for Blu-ray earphones, be sure to set your speaker settings to Stereo since the 5.1 default will not pump the whole sound signal to you out of just these two ports. Your HDMI setting will be unchanged. Took me a week once to figure that out!
post #13767 of 16413
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post




OK... the problem disappears if I use the Optical Outs of the Oppo for sound into my pre-pro. But if I use HDMI for audio as well, then the mute occurs. Oppo seems to say this is normal but I seriously have my doubts the 3-5 second mute is normal. Anyone using the Oppo for processing their cable/satellite signals?

Thanks,
David


I am using optical as well on Cisco Box from TWC. I do not get the Audio mute in that mode. I don't recall getting it using HDMI for audio, but that was a different cable box then.
post #13768 of 16413
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Originally Posted by SeeMoreDigital View Post

In short... No.

So what's the long answer? I got something like "INFO does not work for user generated files" from the Oppo support. So how come it works with "user generated" videos and pictures accessed via SMB?
post #13769 of 16413
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Originally Posted by KC-Technerd View Post

My preference is to use 36b (or the highest bit depth available) unless it creates an issue, which would either be sparkles in the picture, audio or video dropouts, or if it lengthens or otherwise causes problems with the HDMI handshakes. These would all be issues of the higher amount of data exceeding the capability of a given HDMI cable. Many prefer setting to 24b to eliminate any of these possible issues. Just like Blu-ray, I doubt there is any source on cable that is more than 24bit. The only advantage from HDMI 2 on the Oppo is if your TV takes advantage of the extra bits for more precise rounding when it's processing the numbers. I've never heard of this creating any measurably visible difference in the picture. If you use HMDI 1 on the Oppo and your TV is capable of displaying bit depths greater than 24 (meaning more levels between black and peak output in each color channel) there is a function of the Marvell QDEO processor that takes advantage of the higher bit depths. This is definitely visible on test patterns, but how much of a difference it makes in real picture content is questionable. In the end, it probably makes very little to no difference which bit depth you select.

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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

More than likely this is some error in the cable box, possibly based on a handshake from the display. Ignore it. If there are any settings in the cable box for color space, have a look at them. But there is absolutely nothing coming out of a cable box that benefits from 36 bit color, and it might even introduce errors.


I have my Oppo (HDMI 1) hooked up to a base Tivo Roamio and a Panasonic 65VT60 and was wondering which deep color option to choose on my Oppo's setting as well. I was thinking 36 bits for blu ray playback and dropping it back down to 24bits for OTA content and regular dvds. Any thoughts?
post #13770 of 16413
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Originally Posted by Chere View Post


I have my Oppo (HDMI 1) hooked up to a base Tivo Roamio and a Panasonic 65VT60 and was wondering which deep color option to choose on my Oppo's setting as well. I was thinking 36 bits for blu ray playback and dropping it back down to 24bits for OTA content and regular dvds. Any thoughts?

Leave deep color off unless you can visibly demonstrate some benefit with your specific display setup. In any case, all content is upsampled to 36 bit by the player when its on.
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