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post #14911 of 16416
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

The beta testers are in all OPPO threads.

Thanks! I hope my comment didn't come off as negative, didn't mean it to be........ just looking for a wide variety of responses. With two products this good, sometimes preferences can be slightly subjective.
post #14912 of 16416
I just received my Oppo BDP 103 Friday night and have had the weekend to "play." Out of the box, the player was very easy to set up and dial in. I am extremely happy with this addition to my setup. I am 50% movies and music and was using a PS3 up til Friday. Amazing musical upgrade. The video is very good as we'll, though I have a video processor in mr Integra DHC 80.2 processor. I run a Definitive technology speaker arrangement including Mythos ST towers as L/R, Mythos 10 center and Mythos Gem XL as surrounds. I have a Sunfire TGA amplifier powering my system. All formats of disc and music sound just great! I have not truly appreciated my hi rez collection until now. Plays everything clearly and flawlessly with more weight, body and fullness. Pandora and all the included apps sound awesome! I have read these threads, reviews and forums for a long time before pulling the trigger on this wonderful machine. I am very happy to say that I finally did. My main reason for typing this review is to let all you folks out there know that you will not regret your purchase/upgrade if you are on that fence. Even my wife is impressed and she knows how long I have waited.

One happy camper!!!
post #14913 of 16416
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Originally Posted by antennahead View Post

My DV-983H is dying, and I will most likely use the opportunity to go to a one player solution for Blu Ray and SD DVD. I have a large SD DVD library and upconversion is important to me. For all you owners with the BDP-103 and experience with the 983, will I be happy in this regard? I started a thread asking this and to compare the 103 to the 103D for SD DVD upconversion, and it got moved to the official 103D thread. Here's the link: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1492940/official-oppo-bdp-103d-darbee-edition-owners-thread/2670#post_24334658 I hope I'm not upsetting the mods posting here also, but I assumed the 103D thread guys might lean that direction in their responses, and I wanted your opinions as well in case you don't hang out in that thread. Thanks!

John

I bought a 103D a few weeks ago.  To me and on my equipment, the Darbee is not a huge improvement ...but I use it constantly because it gives some improvement. It gives most improvement where you will need it least; blu ray. Have not watched DVDs yet but have done a lot of comparisons on Sat TV in HD and SD.  Crap in--crap out for sure ...but Darbee helps a wee bit there too. More help when source movie is better quality.

103D is only $100 more than 103.  Buy it. You know you want it :-)  I have no regrets paying the extra for Darbee. If I already had a 103, that would be completely different.

Unless 103 owners on this forum suggest parameters important to you where the 103 beats the 103D, I recommend the latter.

post #14914 of 16416
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Originally Posted by fscottwhite1 View Post

I just received my Oppo BDP 103 Friday night and have had the weekend to "play." Out of the box, the player was very easy to set up and dial in. I am extremely happy with this addition to my setup. I am 50% movies and music and was using a PS3 up til Friday. Amazing musical upgrade. The video is very good as we'll, though I have a video processor in mr Integra DHC 80.2 processor. I run a Definitive technology speaker arrangement including Mythos ST towers as L/R, Mythos 10 center and Mythos Gem XL as surrounds. I have a Sunfire TGA amplifier powering my system. All formats of disc and music sound just great! I have not truly appreciated my hi rez collection until now. Plays everything clearly and flawlessly with more weight, body and fullness. Pandora and all the included apps sound awesome! I have read these threads, reviews and forums for a long time before pulling the trigger on this wonderful machine. I am very happy to say that I finally did. My main reason for typing this review is to let all you folks out there know that you will not regret your purchase/upgrade if you are on that fence. Even my wife is impressed and she knows how long I have waited.

One happy camper!!!

Congrats on your new addition! Enjoy!!!
post #14915 of 16416
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Originally Posted by mbroder View Post

So, I'm having a really odd problem with my 103 that has rendered it useless. I'm sure I'll need to call tech support but if anyone else has heard of this, maybe they can chime in.

As soon as I turn it on and the home menu comes up, it automatically acts as if I am pressing the right arrow. It never stops! I can press enter on a menu item but it will automatically go to the right to any submenu and any submenu from there.

I was able to load a disc and get it to play, but then it just skips chapters until it ends...

Is there anything I can do, such as a factory reset? Or do I need a new player? It's still under warranty as I've only had it about 6 months.

You might try what I call a "hard reset" . . .
Disconnect your Oppo from wall power completely for a few minutes, then plug it back in and see if the issue went away.

It's certainly worth a try . . ..
post #14916 of 16416
I'm in the market for a hi end bluray player, I was at a local hifi store and was looking at a denon dbt3313 price was $799. I told the store guy I was thinking about ordering a oppo 103 priced at $499, a little cit chat, he goes to his computer, comes back a few minutes later and tells me he will match the $499 oppo price.question is would that now be a game changer for any current. 103 owners or is the oppo still the 500 dollar player to beat?
I have a denon 4520 panasonic st60 and a darblet, the DL link thing is not important to me.
post #14917 of 16416
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Originally Posted by Lloyd-TX View Post

You might try what I call a "hard reset" . . .
Disconnect your Oppo from wall power completely for a few minutes, then plug it back in and see if the issue went away.

It's certainly worth a try . . ..

Tried that! Same problem... I'll call oppo today.
post #14918 of 16416
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Originally Posted by mbroder View Post

Tried that! Same problem... I'll call oppo today.

Argh - oh well.

Be sure and let us know what Oppo has to say . . .
post #14919 of 16416
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Originally Posted by ingersol1211 View Post

I'm in the market for a hi end bluray player, I was at a local hifi store and was looking at a denon dbt3313 price was $799. I told the store guy I was thinking about ordering a oppo 103 priced at $499, a little cit chat, he goes to his computer, comes back a few minutes later and tells me he will match the $499 oppo price.question is would that now be a game changer for any current. 103 owners or is the oppo still the 500 dollar player to beat?
I have a denon 4520 panasonic st60 and a darblet, the DL link thing is not important to me.

IMO, you can't beat the Oppo for performance, quality, warranty and tech support.
Edited by Lloyd-TX - 2/10/14 at 8:24am
post #14920 of 16416
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Originally Posted by JDOz View Post

I bought a 103D a few weeks ago.  To me and on my equipment, the Darbee is not a huge improvement ...but I use it constantly because it gives some improvement. It gives most improvement where you will need it least; blu ray. Have not watched DVDs yet but have done a lot of comparisons on Sat TV in HD and SD.  Crap in--crap out for sure ...but Darbee helps a wee bit there too. More help when source movie is better quality.
103D is only $100 more than 103.  Buy it. You know you want it :-)  I have no regrets paying the extra for Darbee. If I already had a 103, that would be completely different.
Unless 103 owners on this forum suggest parameters important to you where the 103 beats the 103D, I recommend the latter.

Thanks!
post #14921 of 16416
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Originally Posted by Lloyd-TX View Post

Argh - oh well.

Be sure and let us know what Oppo has to say . . .

Sending it back to Oppo... I spent 0 seconds on hold with tech support. How cool is that. He took my info and the entire call lasted less than a minute. They emailed a ups shipping label within a minute after that. Hopefully the repair goes almost as quick:)
post #14922 of 16416
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Originally Posted by Tgterm View Post

Posted this to the panasonic st60 thread...but was hoping folks might have advice here, as well...
Hi - I have a 5 month old st60 on which I have started to experience an odd problem. Occasionally, and in the same parts of certain source media, the image on the screen shifts, grows larger, loses color and blurs...then usually snaps back into place. This most commonly happens when streaming netflix or when watching an older low resolution dvd with an oppo bdp-103. It is really strange in that it is fine until the movies shift into a foggy scene, or something like that...almost as it it is having trouble deciding what to do with the image when that happens.


I have contacted oppo and panasonic. They have me running through various scenarios with no solution yet. I can replicate the issue at will, and have switched hdmi cables with the same results. The hdmi cables I am using are from an older vintage...I have had them for near ten years now, but they have no trouble with directv hd, 3D through the oppo and directv, and blu rays. It is only when streaming certain scenes (for example, never had the problem streaming Breaking Bad, but have had the problem streaming a 1997 movie and Seinfeld with Crackle!). Would updating the cables be a worthwhile endeavor? It is a big deal because they run through the walls and are quite long.


So, any thoughts are appreciated...thanks!

Don't know if you solved this in the intervening weeks, but every once in a while mine would do this, although I think just with blu-rays (which happens to also be the only thing I use my Oppo for at present, so that's probably why wink.gif). On your tv there is a preference setting in the 3D Settings called Auto detect 3D. If it is set to Auto 2, it uses some kind of algorithm to also try and detect 3D content that isn't flagged, thereby under certain circumstances flipping the tv into 3D (your screen shift, losing color, blur...) when it really shouldn't be. Change this to Auto 1, and this seemingly random switching to 3D goes away (for me anyway, haven't run into it since). (Other setting on the tv I have probably changed is 3d signal notification is set to Off, and on the Oppo I have it set to Auto for 3D output.)
post #14923 of 16416
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Originally Posted by Tgterm View Post

Bob - thank you very much for all this information.  I tried all your setting changes, but only with the Netflix movie we were watching in which I can re-create the issue at will.  Streaming with the OPPO (either through Netflix, or through the Roku stick) is where I have most frequently encountered the issue.   I have to locate DVD source where it happened, as well, and test it further with that. 

When I made the changes as you described while streaming, the anomaly continued to happen in the same spots in the streamed movie.  

I have tried different cables and different HDMI inputs...all with the same issue taking place.  I have not tried the OPPO on a different TV yet.

I have bumped into someone on the Panasonic TC-PxxST60 owners forum who has experience a very similar issue...he wrote:

"Exact same scenario with me. 50" ST60 bought in july, It almost seems like tv is flipping the pixels and a 1080x1920 picture becomes 1920x1080 (pixels rotated 90 degrees). looks like in certain scenes the driving circuit has trouble differentiating between horizontal pixels vs. vertical pixels and flips them. When I bring some other input to screen - like press volume button - the picture corrects itself.

I can tell you this - its not related to cables. My setup is brand new.

This usually happens on old movies/you tube videos with 4:3 content, I have stopped playing older 4:3 content but I can always reproduce this with a particular pattern on Spears & Munsil disk. Please keep us informed on how this goes and what is Panasonic's response."

I have logged a case with Panasonic and escalated it.  They, of course, do not think it is the TV.

kinda frustrating.

Pretty likely that Auto 2 setting for 3D on the TV. See my previous response to your original post. (Figured this out when it happened in my own situation (a ZT60 and an Oppo 103 with no intervening receiver for video)).
post #14924 of 16416
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Originally Posted by mbroder View Post

Sending it back to Oppo... I spent 0 seconds on hold with tech support. How cool is that. He took my info and the entire call lasted less than a minute. They emailed a ups shipping label within a minute after that. Hopefully the repair goes almost as quick:)

Typical exemplary Oppo customer service - at least from what I've heard! I've never had the need to send either my -83 nor my -103 in for service, thank goodness.

Keep us informed . . .
post #14925 of 16416
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Originally Posted by Tgterm View Post

Solved! Setting my Panny 3D auto detection to off and image distortion no longer occurs. Still amazed that Panasonic support did not suggest this in multiple support calls. Thanks for everyone's help!

T

Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk
Glad to see. Were you at Auto 1 or Auto 2 when you turned it to Off instead? For me only had problem with Auto 2 setting, currently using Auto 1.
post #14926 of 16416
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Originally Posted by ingersol1211 View Post

I'm in the market for a hi end bluray player, I was at a local hifi store and was looking at a denon dbt3313 price was $799. I told the store guy I was thinking about ordering a oppo 103 priced at $499, a little cit chat, he goes to his computer, comes back a few minutes later and tells me he will match the $499 oppo price.question is would that now be a game changer for any current. 103 owners or is the oppo still the 500 dollar player to beat?
I have a denon 4520 panasonic st60 and a darblet, the DL link thing is not important to me.

Half off MSRP always sounds good but I still say the Oppo. The hdmi inputs are also something to consider (none on the Denon).  

post #14927 of 16416
Thanks for the responses guys, I just ordered the oppo103, I just read the whole dbt3313 thread, it seems to not have a lot of owners who post much, if it wasn't for the deal with the 4520 there wouldbe even fewer posts.
It is no doubt a fine player but I've always wanted an oppo. I just love getting new toys in the mail.
post #14928 of 16416
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Originally Posted by ingersol1211 View Post

Thanks for the responses guys, I just ordered the oppo103, I just read the whole dbt3313 thread, it seems to not have a lot of owners who post much, if it wasn't for the deal with the 4520 there wouldbe even fewer posts.
It is no doubt a fine player but I've always wanted an oppo. I just love getting new toys in the mail.

 

Welcome to the club. I just joined last week and am waiting for my HT to be put together this week. Good times. You will like the packaging the Oppo comes in. Very well done. 

post #14929 of 16416
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Originally Posted by SeeMoreDigital View Post

Whether the Oppo outputs an 'i' or 'p' signal should depend on how the PAL MPEG-2 video stream has been flagged. If you want to find out how the MPEG-2 stream has been flagged you can use an application called MediaInfo.

However, the MPEG-2 video stream on many PAL DVD movies have actually been encoded using 'progressive' frames but are flagged as 'interlaced' to conform with the DVD standard. Thankfully, such video streams can be 're-flagged' using an application called ReStream prior to muxing into the MKV container....

Well, some of my dvd's were encoded as progressive whereas others as interlaced. MKV files made by MakeMKV are flagged properly according to the source where they come from (MediaInfo). However, the Oppo sees them all as progressive ones although it is supposed to output "untouched" video (Source Direct).
post #14930 of 16416
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Originally Posted by em0ti0n View Post

Well, some of my dvd's were encoded as progressive whereas others as interlaced. MKV files made by MakeMKV are flagged properly according to the source where they come from (MediaInfo). However, the Oppo sees them all as progressive ones although it is supposed to output "untouched" video (Source Direct).
Yes you're correct. With 'Source Direct' selected, all my 'pure interlaced' 720x576 MPEG-2 files are output as progressive.

It's much the same with 'pure interlaced' MPEG-4 SP/ASP files, 'pure interlaced' MPEG-4 AVC files and 'pure interlaced' WMV9/VC-1 files...
post #14931 of 16416
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Originally Posted by ingersol1211 View Post

I'm in the market for a hi end bluray player, I was at a local hifi store and was looking at a denon dbt3313 price was $799. I told the store guy I was thinking about ordering a oppo 103 priced at $499, a little cit chat, he goes to his computer, comes back a few minutes later and tells me he will match the $499 oppo price.question is would that now be a game changer for any current. 103 owners or is the oppo still the 500 dollar player to beat?
I have a denon 4520 panasonic st60 and a darblet, the DL link thing is not important to me.
Your Denon salesman sold me. OPPO all the way. smile.gif
Edited by htwaits - 2/10/14 at 2:18pm
post #14932 of 16416
Yea, the thing is it's the same salesman that I bought my denon 4520 from, at the time I bought the avr the store had just gotten two 4520,s and two dbt3313,s both 4520,s sold right away but both dbt3313,s are still there,one
Hooked up and demoing the other still in box,expensive bluray players are a tough sell to the average walk in customer.
post #14933 of 16416
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Originally Posted by ingersol1211 View Post

Yea, the thing is it's the same salesman that I bought my denon 4520 from, at the time I bought the avr the store had just gotten two 4520,s and two dbt3313,s both 4520,s sold right away but both dbt3313,s are still there,one
Hooked up and demoing the other still in box,expensive bluray players are a tough sell to the average walk in customer.
Many of the walk-in people at a high end store probably, like you, know about OPPO and don't want to pay an additional #300 markup for the Denon name. wink.gif
Edited by htwaits - 2/10/14 at 2:57pm
post #14934 of 16416
Hello everyone,
I just purchased my Oppo 103 and have been playing with it for a few weeks now. So far so good, I did notice one thing today. While switching between a LPCM vs. bitstream on a SDVD the Dolby Digital 5.1 signal was way way louder on my Yamaha RX-V2700 when letting the Oppo decode. I was under the impression and have read there should be not difference. However the difference was quite noticeable, like 10db difference.
Any ideas, I'm using the split av option and was wondering if I may have something set wrong?
post #14935 of 16416
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Originally Posted by ril850 View Post

Hello everyone,
I just purchased my Oppo 103 and have been playing with it for a few weeks now. So far so good, I did notice one thing today. While switching between a LPCM vs. bitstream on a SDVD the Dolby Digital 5.1 signal was way way louder on my Yamaha RX-V2700 when letting the Oppo decode. I was under the impression and have read there should be not difference. However the difference was quite noticeable, like 10db difference.
Any ideas, I'm using the split av option and was wondering if I may have something set wrong?

I don't think so, that you set something wrong, however, there should be no difference of 10 dB. But what is a SDVD? Speed DVD? How did you generate this more proprietary format?

I can't remember that I have this kind of volume difference with my 103 with Blu-Rays, switching to LPCM by mistake in my case.
post #14936 of 16416
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Originally Posted by AlexanderDelarg View Post

You will like the packaging the Oppo comes in. Very well done. 
You know what I don't like? Paying for stuff I don't need and will never use. I don't need the USB WiFi dongle and I sure don't need another HDMI cable. (And I have plenty of canvas shopping bags.) Oppo ought to allow deletion of unwanted accessories.
post #14937 of 16416
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Originally Posted by ril850 View Post

Hello everyone,
I just purchased my Oppo 103 and have been playing with it for a few weeks now. So far so good, I did notice one thing today. While switching between a LPCM vs. bitstream on a SDVD the Dolby Digital 5.1 signal was way way louder on my Yamaha RX-V2700 when letting the Oppo decode. I was under the impression and have read there should be not difference. However the difference was quite noticeable, like 10db difference.
Any ideas, I'm using the split av option and was wondering if I may have something set wrong?

SD DVD?
post #14938 of 16416
I'm thinking this means Standard
Definition DVD
post #14939 of 16416
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Originally Posted by ril850 View Post

Hello everyone,
I just purchased my Oppo 103 and have been playing with it for a few weeks now. So far so good, I did notice one thing today. While switching between a LPCM vs. bitstream on a SDVD the Dolby Digital 5.1 signal was way way louder on my Yamaha RX-V2700 when letting the Oppo decode. I was under the impression and have read there should be not difference. However the difference was quite noticeable, like 10db difference.
Any ideas, I'm using the split av option and was wondering if I may have something set wrong?

Your Yamaha is a bit old in the tooth, most likely it is applying different levels to LPCM input, and/or may be using some default normalization level on DD input. In any case, the Oppo isn't doing this. Assuming you are using HDMI connection.
post #14940 of 16416
That is correct I meant standard dvd and yes I am using HDMI.
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