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post #1981 of 16401
- Blu Ray Question#1: is the video processor of the 103 superior to, say, a new Panasonic such as the BDT-220?

- Blu Ray Q#2: In a simple Home Theater 2.0 set-up, would the analog front L/R outputs contain enough audio for a "phantom" center? Is there an audio setting that the Oppo has that will mix down the 7.1 for this purpose?
post #1982 of 16401
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by pogal View Post

The issue with not being able to output just audio from HDMI 2 and having to go to digital output or multi analog is a huge disappointment.
I understand that this should be the receiver manufacturers responsibility. I also understand that this issue "might" be fixed in the future at some point with a firmware update.

Not might be; will be. OPPO will be releasing a firmware which emulates the current BDP-9x series of players 3D output. That is, HDMI 1 will be Frame Packed 3D and HDMI 2 will be a blank 1080p/24Hz output so the receiver can accept this and process audio. The issue is we do not know when this firmware will be made available to the public, as the firmware has to pass a pretty exhaustive QC.
post #1983 of 16401
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Originally Posted by jh901 View Post

- Blu Ray Question#1: is the video processor of the 103 superior to, say, a new Panasonic such as the BDT-220?
- Blu Ray Q#2: In a simple Home Theater 2.0 set-up, would the analog front L/R outputs contain enough audio for a "phantom" center? Is there an audio setting that the Oppo has that will mix down the 7.1 for this purpose?


1) No, without any processing. If you just output 1080p/24 or 60 from the 103 or BDT220, movies will be fine either way. The big thing with the Panasonic is make sure Chroma is turned OFF, for reference PQ.
post #1984 of 16401
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Originally Posted by Dianabol5mg View Post

Player is directly connected from hdmi 1. Haven't tried 2, but it shouldnt matter for $500. I was just wondering if anyone else experienced this issue. My picture froze last night switching channels. All you could see was the title of the movie on the screen. It was the first such occurrence. I shut everything down but the oppo, until i finally shut it down and then picture came back.

Hopefully, the fellow forum members will be able to help you sort this out, but would you be more accepting if the player cost $250.?biggrin.gif:) Just kidding!smile.gif
post #1985 of 16401
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Originally Posted by gadgtfreek View Post

1) No, without any processing. If you just output 1080p/24 or 60 from the 103 or BDT220, movies will be fine either way. The big thing with the Panasonic is make sure Chroma is turned OFF, for reference PQ.

Hi thanks. So I guess the Panasonic has something equivalent to the Marvell Kyoto-G2H video processor with the latest generation Qdeo™ technology in the BDP-103? I'm also a touch confused by "4K upscaling" and "True 24p" Just want to be sure that the Oppo and Panasonic would present Blu-Ray video equally.


Reminder, if one of you could help out with question #2 (audio) a few posts up. Thanks!
post #1986 of 16401
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Originally Posted by pogal View Post

Hi all, well the upgrade cycle continues. Had a Pioneer Elite SC-09 Flagship receiver and a BDP-93. Now given the problems with 3D to my new Panasonic PT AE-8000 I am looking to sell the SC-09 and get a SC-68 instead to give me the HDMI 1.4 features mad.gif I had got the 103 to give me the 3D plus be able to run my cable box through the Oppo as an upgrade to my 93 (which would have worked). Cable box on Rogers here in Canada runs perfectly with no lip sync issues. The issue with not being able to output just audio from HDMI 2 and having to go to digital output or multi analog is a huge disappointment.
I understand that this should be the receiver manufacturers responsibility. I also understand that this issue "might" be fixed in the future at some point with a firmware update. I am also a realist and feel that my SC-09 has seen its day and things have moved on.
Very happy with my 103 but sad to see the SC-09 go.............
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I'm still using an SC-05 (with no 3D TV), so I'm good for a while yet and see no need to move on. wink.gif
post #1987 of 16401
Just received my 103 2 days ago. Plugged it in an updated firmware. The unit works wonderfully> plays 5.1 channel 24bit-96khz flac files from the front USB port> the port has no loose plastic cover like the previous model!...the previous 93 I owned also didn't sync well with my Edge (green screen flash when switched to it's input)> this one syncs up normally, I like the clicking round buttons as well> you couldn't control the previous player too well in the dark if you had to> my main reason for switching to this model is the fact it has an HDMI input port. (front and back) Still haven't tried 3D bluray titles yet. The unit's response is much more snappier than the previous model thanks to SoC hardware that greatly reduces latency with commands etc. I also like it's Neo 6 music surround mode> which I used to test how immersive I can make audio sound in 5.1> I can say that the effect is better pronounced with music copared to the standard 5.1 output> all music testing was via it's analog outputs> which all work and sound great and just as detailed if not more than the 93.

* So far in terms of functionality the unit does what it is supposed to do...but found an issue with it's HDMI input> when I have the player's output fed into my Dvdo Edge, the video input will not work? I was looking forward to testing it's noise reduction and other processing it can do with SD content...when I plug it's output directly into my set...everything works fine and there is an image (HDMI input is connected to a 2010 mac mini media server running plex etc)..

Right now I do not know why it's HDMI input channel will not output any image/video when the players output is fed through the DVDO Edge?...but will play-back Bluray discs normally? When I attempt to switch to HDMI input the player will not respond> I have to contact oppo and ask what could be causing this bizzar behaviour.

I like oppos' commitment to content functionality> which includes updates to resolve issue with Bluray Title playback> I need to test the unit and see if it will play a bluray title( Spiderman 2) the previous oppo would not play the disc?> has anyone had this playback issue with that title? I've yet to try it with the 103.
post #1988 of 16401
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Originally Posted by jh901 View Post

Hi thanks. So I guess the Panasonic has something equivalent to the Marvell Kyoto-G2H video processor with the latest generation Qdeo™ technology in the BDP-103? I'm also a touch confused by "4K upscaling" and "True 24p" Just want to be sure that the Oppo and Panasonic would present Blu-Ray video equally.
Reminder, if one of you could help out with question #2 (audio) a few posts up. Thanks!

For standard Blu-ray playback, as long as the player sends it out bit for bit, generally they are going to look the same. 4k upscaling is like the when DVD players started upscaling to 1080i, and you need a 4K display to take benefit of the increased resolution.

For standard blu-ray output (1080p/24 or 60), a 103, a BDT220 and a BDP590 (Sony) are all going to perform about the same. When buying an Oppo only for blu-ray playback, some would say one is over spending smile.gif
post #1989 of 16401
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Originally Posted by bakerwi View Post

Hopefully, the fellow forum members will be able to help you sort this out, but would you be more accepting if the player cost $250.?biggrin.gif:) Just kidding!smile.gif

I was really excited(still am), because it was my 1st Oppo. I just wanted everything to go right. I wont get rid of it, just because of this minor issue. I just hope maybe a firmware upgrade could help solve this sort of thing.
post #1990 of 16401
Please forgive me if this subject has already been discussed, but I'm having problems with anamorphic DVD rips to MKV containers playing at the incorrect aspect ratio on the BDP-103..

These MKV files play and look just fine on every media player program and player hardware I own except the BDP-103. Evidently the OPPO player only looks at the Video Pixel Height and Width of MKV files and displays at that aspect ratio instead of considering the Video Display Height and Width parameters in the MKV (this according to tech support). I'm not sure I understand why since the same parameters exist for M4V/MP4 containers which play perfectly on the 103.

My Blu Ray rips look great, but then the native pixel height and width is already at the proper aspect ratio for display.

Am I the only one with this issue?

I also have one MKV rip that exhibits video freezing for a small fraction of a second approximately every 1 1/2 second from start to finish of the video, however the sound is perfect. This only happens on the OPPO - all other players display the video normally.

Again, anyone else experienced anything similar?

I'm sending a couple of the problem videos to OPPO tomorrow.

Thanks
post #1991 of 16401
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Originally Posted by videoluvr View Post

Please forgive me if this subject has already been discussed, but I'm having problems with anamorphic DVD rips to MKV containers playing at the incorrect aspect ratio on the BDP-103..

These MKV files play and look just fine on every media player program and player hardware I own except the BDP-103. Evidently the OPPO player only looks at the Video Pixel Height and Width of MKV files and displays at that aspect ratio instead of considering the Video Display Height and Width parameters in the MKV (this according to tech support). I'm not sure I understand why since the same parameters exist for M4V/MP4 containers which play perfectly on the 103.

My Blu Ray rips look great, but then the native pixel height and width is already at the proper aspect ratio for display.

Am I the only one with this issue?

I also have one MKV rip that exhibits video freezing for a small fraction of a second approximately every 1 1/2 second from start to finish of the video, however the sound is perfect. This only happens on the OPPO - all other players display the video normally.

Again, anyone else experienced anything similar?

I'm sending a couple of the problem videos to OPPO tomorrow.

Thanks

For correct aspect ratio control on Blu-ray rips you must set the player to WIDE/AUTO.

However, I see a bug for rips from 16:9 DVDs: WIDE/AUTO introduces improper pillarboxing. The workaround is to set the player to WIDE for these. I've reported it to OPPO but I'm sure your analysis and sample files would be welcome.

I have not seen reports of regular video freezing on MKV files.

-Bill
post #1992 of 16401
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

For correct aspect ratio control on Blu-ray rips you must set the player to WIDE/AUTO.
However, I see a bug for rips from 16:9 DVDs: WIDE/AUTO introduces improper pillarboxing. The workaround is to set the player to WIDE for these. I've reported it to OPPO but I'm sure your analysis and sample files would be welcome.
I have not seen reports of regular video freezing on MKV files.
-Bill

I do in fact have WIDE/AUTO set, and this should allow videos to play with the correct aspect. Problem is, with anamorphic DVD rips with aspect ratios other than 1.78:1 (16x9) setting the player aspect from WIDE/AUTO to WIDE doesn't really work.

My complaint is that parameters within the MKV container are available to let the player hardware/software know when the pixel aspect ratio must be scaled for proper display. That's why there are parameters for Video Pixel Height and Width - the actual image size, and the Video Display Height and Width - the size to which the image must be scaled for proper viewing. If the player was using the Video Display Height and Width parameters the image would display correctly for any aspect ratio with the player set to WIDE/AUTO.

The player evidently does pay attention to both the pixel and display parameters within M4V/MP4 containers because anamorphic DVD rips to this container type do play correctly on the 103. I just want MKV files given equal consideration (because I have so darn many of them).
post #1993 of 16401
Just a PS to my last post...

When I communicated my MKV aspect ratio problem to OPPO tech support, the tech told me they have always just used the pixel height and width parameters in MKV containers. This is hard to take considering that everyone else supporting MKV seems to be able to get it right. I love my BDP-103 and for a world class player, OPPO should get it right too.
post #1994 of 16401
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Originally Posted by videoluvr View Post

Just a PS to my last post...

When I communicated my MKV aspect ratio problem to OPPO tech support, the tech told me they have always just used the pixel height and width parameters in MKV containers. This is hard to take considering that everyone else supporting MKV seems to be able to get it right. I love my BDP-103 and for a world class player, OPPO should get it right too.

I have some tests I'll check again today, but I think tech support is wrong here. The player does respect both sets of dimension parameters.

The BDP-93 did behave as support describes at one time, but that was corrected a long while ago. The BDP-103 never had the problem, unless a new bug has been introduced.

What are the 4 dimension values on your DVD rips that don't work correctly with WIDE? My tests look ok.

-Bill
post #1995 of 16401
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

We know that Netflix uses AAC for stereo audio, and it is very possible that YouTube is doing the same. At this moment the BDP-103 is not converting AAC into Dolby Digital, AC3 or LPCM, so pretty much all receivers will not be able to decode AAC. This will result in no audio when using digital coaxial and optical regardless of the Coaxial/Optical setting under Audio Format Setup.
I would recommend using multi-channel analog anyways, not digital coaxial or optical, as you will be losing out on the high resolution Dolby Digital TrueHD and DTS-HD Master soundtracks found on Blu-rays.

Thanks, Neuromancer. It appears that is the case. After removing the toslink connection and streaming YouTube through the analog output solely, I was able to get sound output.
post #1996 of 16401
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Originally Posted by bluechunks View Post

No need to do the conversion, unless you are motivated to same a little disk space. The Oppo will play the "core audio" portion of the True-HD track which is just a high-bitrate DD (AC3) track anyway.
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Originally Posted by kluken View Post

Hmm great news, I thought True-HD did not have core DD similar to the way DTS does, but that saves me a step then cool.
Yeah, I described it poorly. With True-HD it's not really a "core" track but rather the code to convert to "regular" AC3 is embedded in the track itself and the Oppo handles this properly. The one thing the Oppo will not do is bitstream True-HD via HDMI from a MKV but it will bitstream multi-channel Dolby Digital (AC3) extracted from the True-HD track automagically. Simple solution: output LPCM and let the Oppo do the decoding.

The Oppo will bitstream DTS-HD from a MKV (one of the changes from the BDP-93).

Since the Oppo does a fine job I just leave the HDMI audio output set to LPCM and that works for everything.

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post #1997 of 16401
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

I have some tests I'll check again today, but I think tech support is wrong here. The player does respect both sets of dimension parameters.
The BDP-93 did behave as support describes at one time, but that was corrected a long while ago. The BDP-103 never had the problem, unless a new bug has been introduced.
What are the 4 dimension values on your DVD rips that don't work correctly with WIDE? My tests look ok.
-Bill

Bill,

Try any anamorphic DVD rip that is is meant to be displayed at an aspect ratio other than 1.78:1 (16x9) such as 2.35:1. On the BDP-103 it will play with the incorrect aspect ratio regardless of the WIDE, WIDE/AUTO setting. In WIDE it is stretched to fit the whole screen, in WIDE/AUTO it will still be too tall.

For example my rip of the movie "300" has pixel dimensions of 720 x 360 (2:1). On the BDP-103 in WIDE/AUTO it plays with that aspect instead of the intended 2.35:1 and is quite obvious. When the player is set to WIDE it's even worse because the image is forced to 1.78:1 instead of 2.35:1.

I admit that movies meant for a 1.85:1 aspect look OK with the WIDE setting because the stretch is very slight, but lots of movies are at 2.35:1.

The point is the WIDE/AUTO setting should work for ALL movies regardless of their display aspect and it currently doesn't with anamorphic MKV's.

Thanks for helping on this - I really appreciate the support.
post #1998 of 16401
I am preparing to buy this player today but have some questions.

There are 2 HDMI OUT inputs. I have a DLP projector and I am using a receiver. Can you use the HDMI OUT 1 input to the DLP projector and use the other HDMI OUT 2 input to the receiver for sound? Do you know what I am talking about?

I am thinking if you connect this player directly to the projector, that the picture quality would be much better. And for the sound, I can use the other HDMI input for the sounds coming from the receiver.

I don't think connecting the player through the receiver and from the receiver to the DLP projector will not look so good. The receiver does not have the high video technology like the 103.

Also, about listening to 2 channel music for SACDs. By looking at the picture of the back of the 103, I do not see a 2 channel RCA connection. But I do see a FL and FR rca connection on the back. Can I just use the FL and FR for 2 channel music listening?

Thanks for any advice!!
post #1999 of 16401
Has anyone had success using various tools out there to convert TrueHD to DTS-MA and then embedding that in the resultant MKV? I have a feeling there is no freeware conversion software for that purpose, all the more reason to hope TrueHD vanishes altogether. wink.gif DTS-HD Master Audio Suite seems to be the tool that can take the lossless TrueHD rips and do it.
post #2000 of 16401
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Originally Posted by mantaraydesign View Post

I am preparing to buy this player today but have some questions.
There are 2 HDMI OUT inputs. I have a DLP projector and I am using a receiver. Can you use the HDMI OUT 1 input to the DLP projector and use the other HDMI OUT 2 input to the receiver for sound? Do you know what I am talking about?
I am thinking if you connect this player directly to the projector, that the picture quality would be much better. And for the sound, I can use the other HDMI input for the sounds coming from the receiver.
I don't think connecting the player through the receiver and from the receiver to the DLP projector will not look so good. The receiver does not have the high video technology like the 103.
Without letting us know which receiver and DLP projector you have, it's kind of difficult to give you much more than a generic answer to your question. First off though, the player has 2 HDMI outputs and 2 HDMI inputs - referring to the outputs as "HDMI OUT inputs" is only going to confuse things.

Now to your question:

1) If your receiver has the ability to disable video processing and can handle 3D passthru, there's usually no need to use both HDMI outputs. In this case, just hook HDMI 1 out from the player to an HDMI input on your receiver and connect the HDMI output on your receiver to your projector.

2) If your receiver has the ability to disable video processing and your projector can't do 3D, there's usually no need to use both HDMI outputs. In this case, just hook HDMI 1 out from the player to an HDMI input on your receiver and connect the HDMI output on your receiver to your projector.

3) If your receiver doesn't have the ability to disable video processing or it can't handle 3D and you have a 3D projector, connect HDMI 1 out from the player to an HDMI input on your projector and connect HDMI 2 out from the player to an HDMI input on your receiver.

If you let us know exactly which receiver and DLP projector you have, we might be able to give you more specific advice.
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Also, about listening to 2 channel music for SACDs. By looking at the picture of the back of the 103, I do not see a 2 channel RCA connection. But I do see a FL and FR rca connection on the back. Can I just use the FL and FR for 2 channel music listening?
Yes, or you can just use the HDMI connection to deliver the audio to your receiver. If you use the analog outputs, make sure you configure the audio settings in the Oppo to properly reflect your speaker configuration. Note that the speaker configuration settings won't be used if you decide to keep SACD's in DSD through the DAC - you need to convert DSD to PCM in the player if you want to apply the Oppo speaker distances, subwoofer crossovers, etc.
post #2001 of 16401
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Originally Posted by videoluvr View Post


Bill,

Try any anamorphic DVD rip that is is meant to be displayed at an aspect ratio other than 1.78:1 (16x9) such as 2.35:1. On the BDP-103 it will play with the incorrect aspect ratio regardless of the WIDE, WIDE/AUTO setting. In WIDE it is stretched to fit the whole screen, in WIDE/AUTO it will still be too tall.

For example my rip of the movie "300" has pixel dimensions of 720 x 360 (2:1). On the BDP-103 in WIDE/AUTO it plays with that aspect instead of the intended 2.35:1 and is quite obvious. When the player is set to WIDE it's even worse because the image is forced to 1.78:1 instead of 2.35:1.

I admit that movies meant for a 1.85:1 aspect look OK with the WIDE setting because the stretch is very slight, but lots of movies are at 2.35:1.

The point is the WIDE/AUTO setting should work for ALL movies regardless of their display aspect and it currently doesn't with anamorphic MKV's.

Thanks for helping on this - I really appreciate the support.

Ok, I see what you mean. With WIDE/AUTO, scope ratio DVD rips are letterboxed, but not enough. It's a math error.

With WIDE there is no aspect control at all: the image is zoomed to 1920x1080, but that is expected from past experience.

I'll work up some examples for OPPO. I've already been reporting improper pillarboxing on 1.78 titles, but had not looked at wider ratios.

Last time I checked, Blu-ray rips were correct regardless of the original aspect ratio, but I'll verify that.

-Bill
post #2002 of 16401
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

Without letting us know which receiver and DLP projector you have, it's kind of difficult to give you much more than a generic answer to your question. First off though, the player has 2 HDMI outputs and 2 HDMI inputs - referring to the outputs as "HDMI OUT inputs" is only going to confuse things.
Now to your question:
1) If your receiver has the ability to disable video processing and can handle 3D passthru, there's usually no need to use both HDMI outputs. In this case, just hook HDMI 1 out from the player to an HDMI input on your receiver and connect the HDMI output on your receiver to your projector.
2) If your receiver has the ability to disable video processing and your projector can't do 3D, there's usually no need to use both HDMI outputs. In this case, just hook HDMI 1 out from the player to an HDMI input on your receiver and connect the HDMI output on your receiver to your projector.
3) If your receiver doesn't have the ability to disable video processing or it can't handle 3D and you have a 3D projector, connect HDMI 1 out from the player to an HDMI input on your projector and connect HDMI 2 out from the player to an HDMI input on your receiver.
If you let us know exactly which receiver and DLP projector you have, we might be able to give you more specific advice.
Yes, or you can just use the HDMI connection to deliver the audio to your receiver. If you use the analog outputs, make sure you configure the audio settings in the Oppo to properly reflect your speaker configuration. Note that the speaker configuration settings won't be used if you decide to keep SACD's in DSD through the DAC - you need to convert DSD to PCM in the player if you want to apply the Oppo speaker distances, subwoofer crossovers, etc.



Thank you for your help!

I have the Onkyo TX-NR905 and the Optoma DX339 DLP projector. The DX339 can handle 3D but the 905 receiver can not. The 905 is HDMI v1.3
post #2003 of 16401
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Originally Posted by mantaraydesign View Post

Thank you for your help!
I have the Onkyo TX-NR905 and the Optoma DX339 DLP projector. The DX339 can handle 3D but the 905 receiver can not. The 905 is HDMI v1.3
Then yes, you should use HDMI 1 out from the Oppo to your projector and HDMI 2 out from the Oppo to your receiver.
post #2004 of 16401
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

Then yes, you should use HDMI 1 out from the Oppo to your projector and HDMI 2 out from the Oppo to your receiver.


Thanks!!
post #2005 of 16401
I should be receiving my 103 tomorrow. I know I will be spending the next few days testing its ability to playback files. MKV as well as other formats. I will post back my findings to complement videoluvr and Bill's finding. The playback of files is an important functionality for me. I am pretty knowledgeable in video file formats and containers since I do some as part of my work, I should be able to give good feedback.
post #2006 of 16401
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Originally Posted by bluechunks View Post

Yeah, I described it poorly. With True-HD it's not really a "core" track but rather the code to convert to "regular" AC3 is embedded in the track itself and the Oppo handles this properly. The one thing the Oppo will not do is bitstream True-HD via HDMI from a MKV but it will bitstream multi-channel Dolby Digital (AC3) extracted from the True-HD track automagically. Simple solution: output LPCM and let the Oppo do the decoding.
The Oppo will bitstream DTS-HD from a MKV (one of the changes from the BDP-93).
Since the Oppo does a fine job I just leave the HDMI audio output set to LPCM and that works for everything.
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Interesting, I will try again but any MKV file that I used MakeMKV that was a True-HD format when I try and play it with the Oppo is says unsupported audio format. Let me play around some more. I believe 30 Days of Night was one of the few True-HD titles I have.
post #2007 of 16401
Having real problem with the 103. Bought to replace a BD83 SE. Connected via a Yamaha avr (2067) via HDMI 1, then to HDMI input on LG 50PM670T plasma (2012 model).

Two major issues

1. Audio badly out of sync. Auto lip sync is enabled on the avr and it works for every other source. Thinking it must be the implementation of the QDEO processor, as passing a source direct signal cures the lip sync issues.

2. It takes a good 3-4 seconds for the audio to lock in and coke through the receiver on first playing a disc eg on the new Bond Blurays, the first half and more of the MGM lions roar is missed.

Given the cost and pedigree of this player, I'm more than a bit disappointed. The Oppo BD83 it replaced had no such issues in the same set up. Anyone else experiencing similar?

Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
post #2008 of 16401
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Originally Posted by Barzo View Post

Having real problem with the 103. Bought to replace a BD83 SE. Connected via a Yamaha avr (2067) via HDMI 1, then to HDMI input on LG 50PM670T plasma (2012 model).
Two major issues
1. Audio badly out of sync. Auto lip sync is enabled on the avr and it works for every other source. Thinking it must be the implementation of the QDEO processor, as passing a source direct signal cures the lip sync issues.
2. It takes a good 3-4 seconds for the audio to lock in and coke through the receiver on first playing a disc eg on the new Bond Blurays, the first half and more of the MGM lions roar is missed.
Given the cost and pedigree of this player, I'm more than a bit disappointed. The Oppo BD83 it replaced had no such issues in the same set up. Anyone else experiencing similar?
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2

I have a 103 and a Denon 3808ci. Going HDMi 1 from the 103 direct to the Denon then HDMi from the Denon out to a Samsung UN55B8500. Having the same issues with the Bond discs. MGM Lion roar comes in late. Hopefully the next firmware update will address these problems. I've got a few other discs that have been way out of sych.
post #2009 of 16401
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Originally Posted by Barzo View Post

Having real problem with the 103. Bought to replace a BD83 SE. Connected via a Yamaha avr (2067) via HDMI 1, then to HDMI input on LG 50PM670T plasma (2012 model).
Two major issues
1. Audio badly out of sync. Auto lip sync is enabled on the avr and it works for every other source. Thinking it must be the implementation of the QDEO processor, as passing a source direct signal cures the lip sync issues.

The auto synch feature in the AVR is worse than useless and should be left turned off since it only interferes with normal synch.
Try using HDMI-2 and see if that changes things.
post #2010 of 16401
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Originally Posted by Barzo View Post

Having real problem with the 103. Bought to replace a BD83 SE. Connected via a Yamaha avr (2067) via HDMI 1, then to HDMI input on LG 50PM670T plasma (2012 model).
Two major issues
1. Audio badly out of sync. Auto lip sync is enabled on the avr and it works for every other source. Thinking it must be the implementation of the QDEO processor, as passing a source direct signal cures the lip sync issues.
2. It takes a good 3-4 seconds for the audio to lock in and coke through the receiver on first playing a disc eg on the new Bond Blurays, the first half and more of the MGM lions roar is missed.
Given the cost and pedigree of this player, I'm more than a bit disappointed. The Oppo BD83 it replaced had no such issues in the same set up. Anyone else experiencing similar?
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2

I have similar setup, but yamaha rx-473 and Sharp Elite 60".

#1 Audio is indeed completely out-of-sync. No other player had this problem.

#2 I notice the HDMI (re) handshakes are finicky to say the least.
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