Official OPPO BDP-103 Owner's Thread - Page 68

I would assume that is because letterboxing/pillarboxing is built into the Blu-Ray rather than "derived" as it is for most other sources.

If you read back through this thread you will see that synch problems are well known and known to Oppo. It seems to depend somewhat on the hardware combination with the receiver. Oppo is working on a comprehensive solution to come in a firmware update.

Yep, have this same issue with a Denon 1611. Late audio start, out of sync audio typically on Dolby Digital playback. Sometimes video takes a second or two to kick in as well. I check their site daily now for new firmware.

It's hard to tell whether you are using HDMI1 and 2 from the Oppo. If not please try this re handshakes (and maybe even lip-synch). HDMI1 to TV and HDMI2 to AVR. I had handshake issues with my Yamaha AVR with the 93 when only using HDMI1. It went away when using both HDMI1 and 2. Maybe this will be the same for the 103.

I finally set up my Harmony remote for the 103 this weekend (been using 93 settings for awhile). However, the thing missing in the harmony database is discrete Power On and Power Off commands.

Because the ones from the 93 work, I know they're there. But does anyone know how I can these commands into my database?

Right (I think!)

MKV allows different X-Y scales for storage and display dimensions, effectively a flexible anamorphic encoding. DVDs also do this, although the spec allows only two choices.

Blu-rays when ripped often have the black bars trimmed off, but the storage and display scales are the same even so. You could make anamorphic MKV versions, but no reason to do so, given that the original discs don't use it. Not so for DVD, which is causing some system confusion.

Something similar was fixed on the -93 back when, so it is just a matter of illustrating the problem.

-Bill

Here's something I'd like everyone to try to help me determine if I have any potential hardware issues with my bdp-103 disc loader (doubtful). I can barely hear a constant 3-peating "tick tick tick" every 15-20 seconds coming from the disc tray of my 103 when playing blu-rays. It actually only makes this sound when reading blu-ray discs, and not dvd's, cd's, sacd's, or dvd-a's. I think this noise is completely normal (the sound of the laser tracking), but I wondered if some of you on the forum here could try to see if you can hear it as well on your players. Start up a blu-ray disc and skip to a particular scene (no menus), then put your ear up to your disc tray and you should hear a slight tick tick tick every 20 seconds or so as the laser reads. let me know if you hear it. I can kind of just barely hear it from my seating position at 6-8ft away from my player, but it's not too annoying. I was hoping it would be a completely silent loader, but I realize that's not entirely possible given the fact that the disc does spin very rapidly and the laser is constantly tracking on the disc. I'm just surprised that different media sound different in the loader. The fact that I only hear this noise on blu-rays and not other disc media makes me think this is just a characteristic of the loader and not any particular defect. The tick is very slight, and you could only hear it in a silent room. Curse my sensitive hearing!

weird, hopelessly convoluted question:

Ok so let's say I want to use the Oppo to upscale/de-interlace ALL of my source components: the oppo itself of course, PS3, DirectV HR24 SAT box, blu ray changer, and an Apple TV.

So I use my Denon 4311 as a switcher for the other (4) components AND the Oppo and simply run its (the Denon's) "HDMI 1" out to the Oppo...all processing OFF on the Denon, btw.

Ok, now I can run the Oppo's "HDMI 2" out (because of course #1 is connected to the Denon 4311) to my Kuro?

I know I must not be the only one who has thought of this.

Questions:

1. Will this work, lol? I cannot see why not, at first glance.

2. Sync issues? Seeing the 4311 will have audio "first" from all of the components and THEN pass the signal to the 103 THEN the Kuro, can I expect lip sync issues?


Am I completely missing the boat with all of this, or are others doing the same/similar? Read about 20 pages of the thread and didn't see it come up...

thanks a ton in advance!

James

If you want to do this sort of thing, you have it a bit backwards. The way to do it is:

1) Connect HDMI 2 out from the Oppo to an input on the 4311 (for audio)
2) Connect your other sources to HDMI inputs on the 4311
3) Connect the HDMI output from your 4311 to the rear HDMI input on the Oppo
4) Connect HDMI 1 out from the Oppo to an input on your Kuro.

To watch your other sources, select the appropriate inputs on the 4311 and the TV and select the rear HDMI input on the Oppo.

To watch your Oppo, select the "Bluray" input on the Oppo, the appropriate input on the 4311 (that HDMI output 2 from the Oppo is connected to), and the appropriate input on the TV.

I realize I'd have to select the appropriate input on the AVR, lol.

Outside of having the #1 and #2 outputs of the Oppo switched, you have derailed precisely what I have proposed. Does it matter (which HDMI out goes where)? Thanks. EDIT: wait, one HDMI out has superior video processing, correct? I'm guessing that's why.

And it's interesting that you select "bluray" input on the oppo I would have thought it would simply be labeled HDMI input 1 and 2. EDIT: after perusing the manual it appears that you enter an input menu and then select "HDMI BACK/FRONT"

Well, this should be interesting in the ease of use dept for the wife. Don't think I can program my harmony one to do much more than turn the unit on upon start up. Perhaps I can add a macro command to the oppo: "input" "2/3 down arrows" and "enter".

Has anyone done this with any success? Does the unit at least stay on the last input it was on when it was last operating, upon power up? Then I'd just need to change it for disc playback. CALLED OPPO: it won't...sounds like it goes right to the main menu screen, as expected.

thanks



James
Edited by mastermaybe - 11/12/12 at 12:23pm

I had read through the thread. People were suggesting no sync problems with Yamaha receivers, hence I thought I'd post that there are. I'll also let Oppo know. The handshake/audio delay issue is a different one though, yes?

Oh, might give that a try. Thought that might make it worse.

Interesting, though not very optimal setup for me. Having a single long cable between the yamaha and the tv is really handy; pulling another one would be a hassle to say the least.

Had no issues with Sony or Panasonic... why would OPPO have problems with my so very vanilla setup?

by the way, my setup:
Oppo HDMI1 to Yamaha HDMI1
FIOS DVR HDMI1 to Yamaha HDMI2
Yamaha HDMI OUT to Elite.

I just ordered a Oppo 103. I also just purchased a Marantz 7007 to replace my Onkyo 709. Look forward to watching a DVD on my Epsom 5010. Why won't work with streaming from Amazon?

How long is the single cable? I have two 15 foot HDMI cables running from my mothers 93 to her TV and AVR. No handshake issues (also a Yamaha receiver). I would not run the Oppo any other way than 2 HDMI cables.
Edited by Ali is mental - 11/12/12 at 2:13pm

I have finally got the oppo up and running but need to know if the following is normal:-

The oppo is connected through a pioneer receiver to a 8g kuro plasma. When I select play on the oppo the kuro seem to loose connection as the screen info appears a couple of times before the movie plays . This used to happen with the PS3 so is this normal?

On another note does the harmony database have the 103 in yet?

Thanks

It does, but the "Option" button is not there. And I can't seem to get the Harmony remote to self learn that button either. It says that it picks it up but when the programmed button is pushed it does not do anything.

Did you mean "detailed"? Otherwise, I'm not sure how I derailed anything...
Yes, HDMI 1 uses the QDEO chip, HDMI 2 does not. The whole point of what you're proposing is to get better video processing than the 4311, so using HDMI 1 from the player to the TV is the way you would want to connect things.
The player itself is considered an input - that's the one called "Bluray" and the one you want to select if you want to watch a Bluray, DVD, etc. on the player itself or use the streaming services on the player. You select "HDMI Back" to have the player process the rear HDMI input.
No need to use the arrow keys - press Input, pause briefly, press the number that corresponds to the input you want, then press Enter. This can definitely be accomplished with a Harmony remote or just about any other remote that can do macros.
Various people are using the HDMI inputs for various purposes - I don't believe you're the first one to suggest this particular use. The player will always boot up to the Bluray input (as Oppo told you), so you'll need to program appropriate macros into your Harmony.

Pheeewwww many thanks

You'll have to ask Amazon. They are the one's blocking this.

NOTE: In the interim, you can get Amazon streaming through the OPPO using, for example, the ROKU Streaming Stick plugged into the Front HDMI Input.
--Bob

Certainly no longer than 10 feet. The problem is that there is no place to hide it, which isn't too bad with a single cable (from the receiver).

I hear you, but it sounds like a workaround with zero benefit to me. These receivers do not mess with the HDMI video (esp as passthrough), so why does the player *must* connect to the TV directly? I've even configured the receiver to not pass audio to the tv when the receiver is on.

thanks for the help and suggestions though.

When you play a Blu-ray disc, you really don't want any "video processing" -- the whole point is for the disc player to produce the correct bitstream from the disc... the disc is encoded with YCbCr 4:2:0 data. The only change an accurate disc player makes is that the video is converted to the 4:2:2 format which is easily done with excellent accuracy by just about any video processor. Of course it's possible to screw that up or to add some sort of processing that cant be disabled, but there aren't many players doing that now.

Where superior video processing will be visible is in upconverting DVD or standard def TV or online-content. If you don't expect or need your Blu-ray player to perform esecially well for those applications, there's no reason to pay more for a player that will. So far, there aren't any Blu-ray players I'm aware of besides the Oppo 103 that allow you to send your cable/satellite video into the disc player to be processed by the (likely better) processing in the 103. And the network playback calabilities may also be better than some lower-cost disc players. If network and online capabilities are important to you, you need to do some DEEP comparison of features and capabilities to make sure the player you decide on does what you want/need it to do.

It's not a must situation. You can use the single HDMI output. I had my 93 connected that way for a year. During that year I always had handshake issues. Then I decided to connect using both HDMI outputs. All handshake issues went away with the double connection. When I connected the 103 I just went with the double HDMI connection. No handshake issues on the 103 as well.

Would you believe I'm over buying an Oppo 103 if using just for blu-ray to replace a Samsung 3600. The issue I have with the Samsung is out of sync when set to bitstream, and it does not hold a 24fps setting.
I don't use 3D, and was hoping the Oppo would have a superior blu-ray picture than less costly bd players.

Yes, I could believe it. The Oppo's build quality, audio disc (DVD-A/SACD) support, streaming features, upscaling capabilities and unparalleled technical support are the biggest attractions. You certainly can change the PQ by altering tons of parameters in the player's settings, but you won't get a pure signal, and purity is where the Oppo excels in the realm of BD video (and audio of all kinds). The problem you describe might be fixed by changing the delay in your AVR (or possibly checking for firmware updates for the Samsung and/or AVR).

It seems to be almost never mentioned, or at least I have not seen it, that the 103 runs dramatically cooler than the 93 or any other BR player that I have. As heat is a destroyer of electronics, that is an important plus.

If I wanted to use the 103 as a VP for my satellite receiver, does the 103 need to be on to work it's scaling magic?

Is anyone able to get the Oppo 103 to work with the Denon Remote App? My Denon is a 3313.

The Oppo doesn't show up on the list of devices (why, my TV shows up but not the Oppo?), then when I goto Add Devices, I enter the IP address and it shows up as a device but then quickly disconnects. Then when I try the IP address again, it fails.

I'll be honest I really do like the new 103 but it's wifi signal with out the base being used and just connected to the rear is terrible, it holds a steady signal but not enough to run the apps fast and some times not at all. The base greatly improves the signal since I can position it better. Does any one else feel the same as me. Just curious...