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post #2071 of 16443
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Originally Posted by tool2010 View Post

Hello together,

What is the the best way to connect the BDP 103 with the AV Receiver ?
One HDMI cable only or is it better to use 2 HDMI cables's, one for video and one for Audio ?
Is there any difference ?

Best regards from Germany

tool2010

One cable is usually sufficient. The two HDMI outputs are for people who have 3D displays and AVRs that do not pass HDMI 1.4. They can run HDMI1 directly to the display for video and HDMI2 to the receiver for audio.

-Bill
post #2072 of 16443
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

One cable is usually sufficient. The two HDMI outputs are for people who have 3D displays and AVRs that do not pass HDMI 1.4. They can run HDMI1 directly to the display for video and HDMI2 to the receiver for audio.
-Bill

I was under the impression that HDMI1 had superior video up scaling and HDMI2 had more audio capability, e.g. DSD for SACD.
post #2073 of 16443
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Originally Posted by jima4a View Post

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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

One cable is usually sufficient. The two HDMI outputs are for people who have 3D displays and AVRs that do not pass HDMI 1.4. They can run HDMI1 directly to the display for video and HDMI2 to the receiver for audio.
-Bill

I was under the impression that HDMI1 had superior video up scaling and HDMI2 had more audio capability, e.g. DSD for SACD.

You are correct.

-Bill
post #2074 of 16443
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Originally Posted by jima4a View Post


I was under the impression that HDMI1 had superior video up scaling

I should add that there is some subjective preference here. The DVD deinterlacing and scaling by Mediatek is very pleasing on HDMI2. You should try both to see what you like. Calibrate the display for best results, of course.

For low quality streams QDEO on HDMI1 has sharpening and noise reduction controls you can try. For discs I leave them alone.

-Bill
post #2075 of 16443
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Originally Posted by tool2010 View Post

Hello together,
What is the the best way to connect the BDP 103 with the AV Receiver ?
One HDMI cable only or is it better to use 2 HDMI cables's, one for video and one for Audio ?
Is there any difference ?
Best regards from Germany
tool2010

I would always connect with 2 HDMI cables. HDMI1 to display and HDMI2 to the AVR. I find things just work smoother this way. Also for video purists there is no audio then being carried on HDMI1, just the video. Probably doesn't make a difference but as I said everything is just optimized when you use both cables.
post #2076 of 16443
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Originally Posted by Ali is mental View Post

I would always connect with 2 HDMI cables. HDMI1 to display and HDMI2 to the AVR. I find things just work smoother this way. Also for video purists there is no audio then being carried on HDMI1, just the video. Probably doesn't make a difference but as I said everything is just optimized when you use both cables.
I disagree completely.

Using two cables may be optimal for certain situations, for example with an AVR that is not HDMI 1.4 and the display is 3D. In my case the 103 is routed via a Yamaha A2010 receiver and then a single in-wall 75' HDMI cable runs from the media closest to the Panasonic plasma on the opposite side of the room. Everything works great and since the HDMI signal is digital it does not matter at all that audio and video are being carried on the same cable--there is no loss of "purity."

To each their own, but there are multiple ways to connect the Oppo with no "perfect" method that's appropriate for all circumstances.

YMMV.
post #2077 of 16443
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Originally Posted by randallhill View Post

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Hmmmmm....maybe the NAS?, maybe the gigabit router?, maybe the BDP-103 using 10/100 Mbps network connection instead of 1000 Mbps network connection? I have a Gigabit network and all peripherals are set for 1.0 Gbps, the NAS is enabled for Jumbo Frames at 7K, the NICs are enabled for Jumbo Frames set at 7K.

I would advise dumping jumbo frames, I doubt that the Oppo can be configured to use them (most likely neither can your ISP) so sending them to such places will result in fragmentation hurting performance. They also tend to increase latency.

EDIT: Also note that your switch would have to support and be configured for jumbo frames as well, but since all devices don't support them it's a moot point. You could initiate a separate LAN or VLAN for just the jumbo frame devices but I doubt the complexity would justify it.

Chris
Edited by darkphader - 11/14/12 at 6:48am
post #2078 of 16443
RE: Oppo locks up accessing NAS files...

I think I found a solution to the lock up issue, Beta Tester suggested to let the Oppo index the NAS first, after it's done indexing then you can access the files on the NAS. Indexing could take 5 minutes or a couple of hours depending on how many media files are on the NAS.

I have over 100K media files (music,vdieo, photo) on my NAS, I let the Oppo index for about an hour or so (probably not fully indexed because I stoped it after an hour on "Loading"), but I didn't experience any lockups after indexing. So, the lockups probabaly have nothing to do with a wireless or wired connection on the Oppo.

I should mention that the Oppo will index all media files regardless of how you have your data / media folders set up on your NAS, meaning, I've set up two main folders on the NAS, one "Data" and the other as "Media"...there are a few thousand media files in the Data subfolders (garbage files really) however, the Oppo indexed those files as well. I suppose the best way to configure, store and use a NAS for media being pushed to the Oppo (and/or AVR ) is to have a dedicated media only NAS. Another possible solution is to use a dedicated USB 2.0 external HDD or SSD plugged in to one of the USB ports on the Oppo, this would eliminate any potential network issues.
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No Audio on 3D Discs..

I've hooked my 103 direct to the TV via HDMI 1 and HDMI 2 to my Onkyo AVR. The Onkyo does not pass 3D signals. The audio on BD, DVD, CD, Netflix and mkv files all play flawlessly in the highest format possible. When I pop in a 3D disc, the video plays but no audio..

Split AV is enabled in the player. I tried 'auto', 'bitstream', and LCPM. Nothing worked.

Any suggestions?....
post #2080 of 16443
This may be completely obvious, but I'll ask anyway.

Does the 103 save NAS indexing details and GraceNote/VidNote info on its persistent storage?
post #2081 of 16443
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Originally Posted by brownriggd View Post

No Audio on 3D Discs..
I've hooked my 103 direct to the TV via HDMI 1 and HDMI 2 to my Onkyo AVR. The Onkyo does not pass 3D signals. The audio on BD, DVD, CD, Netflix and mkv files all play flawlessly in the highest format possible. When I pop in a 3D disc, the video plays but no audio..
Split AV is enabled in the player. I tried 'auto', 'bitstream', and LCPM. Nothing worked.
Any suggestions?....

I have the same problem with my Denon 3808 and from what I have been told on this forum Oppo is working on a firmware update to correct this problem and are waiting for it to pass QC. It is not Oppo's fault. It is the fault of the receivers but Oppo does not feel the receiver manufacturers will address this so they are addressing it for us. Pretty awesome company. I just got a 70" Elite delivered on Saturday and when I found the problem with the audio I went and bought a Pioneer Elite BDP-62FD to hold me over until the fix comes. Nice player and the audio works fine but not nearly the build quality of the Oppo but I did get it for $329 from BB and it plays HD 5.1 with Netflix as the Oppo does. I guess we just need to be patient. I'm sure it will be worth the wait.
post #2082 of 16443
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Originally Posted by brownriggd View Post

No Audio on 3D Discs..
I've hooked my 103 direct to the TV via HDMI 1 and HDMI 2 to my Onkyo AVR. The Onkyo does not pass 3D signals. The audio on BD, DVD, CD, Netflix and mkv files all play flawlessly in the highest format possible. When I pop in a 3D disc, the video plays but no audio..
Split AV is enabled in the player. I tried 'auto', 'bitstream', and LCPM. Nothing worked.
Any suggestions?....

this has been reported and discussed a few times. Its probably a handshake issue with the AVR. Assuming you also have the AVR connected to your display by HDMI, try disconnecting that cable from the display. Oppo should have a fix for this issue in an upcoming firmware which will blank the video on HDMI-2 when playing 3D.
post #2083 of 16443
Actually, I just solved the problem. I had 3D output set to 'forced'. Setting it to 'Auto' solved the problem... Thanks for the tip anyways.
post #2084 of 16443
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

this has been reported and discussed a few times. Its probably a handshake issue with the AVR. Assuming you also have the AVR connected to your display by HDMI, try disconnecting that cable from the display. Oppo should have a fix for this issue in an upcoming firmware which will blank the video on HDMI-2 when playing 3D.

I turned on my Oppo and it said there was a firmware upgrade available. The Oppo site says the last upgrade was 10/22/12 and I ordered my player 2 weeks after that. Is there a new upgrade and it so does it take care ot the 3D audio issue?
post #2085 of 16443
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Originally Posted by mrcarnut View Post

I turned on my Oppo and it said there was a firmware upgrade available. The Oppo site says the last upgrade was 10/22/12 and I ordered my player 2 weeks after that. Is there a new upgrade and it so does it take care ot the 3D audio issue?

Likely shipped with old FW.
post #2086 of 16443
Seems as though, the BDP-103 indexes the NAS each time you power off / power on the unit and then access the NAS...at least that's what I'm seeing each time I open a folder on the NAS, it starts indexing the folder as soon as I access it (it shows the index progress bar on top of the screen). I think it behaves the same way with Gracenote information. I think the persistent memory is for BD-Live maybe?
post #2087 of 16443
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Originally Posted by Brian-HD View Post

Likely shipped with old FW.

Yes. It say firmware 118 so that is the upgrade from 10/22. I think I'll wait for the fix upgrade.
post #2088 of 16443
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Originally Posted by randallhill View Post

Seems as though, the BDP-103 indexes the NAS each time you power off / power on the unit and then access the NAS...at least that's what I'm seeing each time I open a folder on the NAS, it starts indexing the folder as soon as I access it (it shows the index progress bar on top of the screen). I think it behaves the same way with Gracenote information. I think the persistent memory is for BD-Live maybe?

Correct.
post #2089 of 16443
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Originally Posted by bluechunks View Post

I disagree completely.
Using two cables may be optimal for certain situations, for example with an AVR that is not HDMI 1.4 and the display is 3D. In my case the 103 is routed via a Yamaha A2010 receiver and then a single in-wall 75' HDMI cable runs from the media closest to the Panasonic plasma on the opposite side of the room. Everything works great and since the HDMI signal is digital it does not matter at all that audio and video are being carried on the same cable--there is no loss of "purity."
To each their own, but there are multiple ways to connect the Oppo with no "perfect" method that's appropriate for all circumstances.
YMMV.

I'm not doing 3D at all at this point. I agree with all of this other than that DSD is only available on HDMI2 and I have 300 SACD's. I find that sending the DSD to my receiver results in excellent sound. Better than I have ever experienced before even with the 93. Having said that, if I had a 75 foot run I would be doing one cable as well. My situation is 2 x 6 feet HDMI cables so I just do the two cables. I had audio handshake issues with files on my hard drive before with a single cable (mainly mkv). Now I don't. That was a factor as well. Any other benefits I might get from 2 cables if any are just gravy. Nothing to lose doing it this way as far as I can see and at least DSD to gain from using HDMI2 for audio.
Edited by Ali is mental - 11/14/12 at 11:08am
post #2090 of 16443
I just placed my order for the 103. I have a question for those who are indexing their media storage.

I have all meta data stored with my music and video files. I've painstakingly scraped the music files to ensure they are properly tagged, and all video (MKV mostly) files have cover art and 1080p background images as well. Will the Oppo recognize this meta data and present it on screen in its user interface? I am coming from an XBMC and OPENELEC media player which is now being replaced by the Oppo. I don't expect it to look as beautiful as XBMC, but I would be delighted if the Oppo was able to use the meta data while browsing media.
post #2091 of 16443
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Originally Posted by Greg121986 View Post

I just placed my order for the 103. I have a question for those who are indexing their media storage.

I have all meta data stored with my music and video files. I've painstakingly scraped the music files to ensure they are properly tagged, and all video (MKV mostly) files have cover art and 1080p background images as well. Will the Oppo recognize this meta data and present it on screen in its user interface? I am coming from an XBMC and OPENELEC media player which is now being replaced by the Oppo. I don't expect it to look as beautiful as XBMC, but I would be delighted if the Oppo was able to use the meta data while browsing media.

No, generally not. It displays some tags and embedded covers for mp3 files and such.

It has optional Gracenote online lookup, but results from the database can be hit and miss.

-Bill
post #2092 of 16443
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Originally Posted by Greg121986 View Post

I just placed my order for the 103. I have a question for those who are indexing their media storage.
I have all meta data stored with my music and video files. I've painstakingly scraped the music files to ensure they are properly tagged, and all video (MKV mostly) files have cover art and 1080p background images as well. Will the Oppo recognize this meta data and present it on screen in its user interface? I am coming from an XBMC and OPENELEC media player which is now being replaced by the Oppo. I don't expect it to look as beautiful as XBMC, but I would be delighted if the Oppo was able to use the meta data while browsing media.

You should be okay with mp3 and flac files. Not so much with video files.
post #2093 of 16443
Sorry if it has been discussed, but has anyone received their hardware region mods from bluraychip.dk yet? I Emailed them asking about the release date, and they said they shipped some out and that new orders would ship in a week.

I didn't pre-order because I wanted people here to confirm that it works.
post #2094 of 16443
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Originally Posted by Greg121986 View Post

I just placed my order for the 103. I have a question for those who are indexing their media storage.

I have all meta data stored with my music and video files. I've painstakingly scraped the music files to ensure they are properly tagged, and all video (MKV mostly) files have cover art and 1080p background images as well. Will the Oppo recognize this meta data and present it on screen in its user interface? I am coming from an XBMC and OPENELEC media player which is now being replaced by the Oppo. I don't expect it to look as beautiful as XBMC, but I would be delighted if the Oppo was able to use the meta data while browsing media.

FYI: Evidently the XBMC crowd are working on 103/105 support right now.
--Bob
post #2095 of 16443
Anyone using this 103 with Dish Network (Hopper or 722) input? Just wondering how they play together.
post #2096 of 16443
OPPO UK has now posted a PDF of Mark Craven's "Home Cinema Choice Magazine" review of the BDP-103EU:

http://www.oppo-bluray.co.uk/UserFiles/Docs/PDF/HCC_oppo_blu103eu.pdf

Awarded: Home Cinema Choice Best Buy

"An Absolute Triumph!"
--Bob
post #2097 of 16443
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Originally Posted by Darrin View Post

. . . .

Also, with regard to "Push" play via DLNA, expect VERY good things.....VERY soon!!!! XBMC and Oppo = a match made in heaven:)

I've been keeping a casual eye on this. Is it correct that support for the 103/105 will be part of a Beta update to the latest XBMC stuff? And as you say, "soon"?

Can you give any details on what the resulting experience will be like?
--Bob
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Tried to take advantage of the 103's upscaling feature using my Channel Master PVR. Ran a high speed HDMI cable from the box to the input on the back of the 103 and selected the back HDMI connection on the input menu. Selected the bluray input on the TV. No picture....changed to a HDMI 2.0 cable and still no picture. Hmm, is there is something obvious I'm not doing?
post #2099 of 16443
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Originally Posted by brownriggd View Post

Tried to take advantage of the 103's upscaling feature using my Channel Master PVR. Ran a high speed HDMI cable from the box to the input on the back of the 103 and selected the back HDMI connection on the input menu. Selected the bluray input on the TV. No picture....changed to a HDMI 2.0 cable and still no picture. Hmm, is there is something obvious I'm not doing?

While doing this, press Info button on the OPPO remote. If the display comes on screen, that shows the video from the OPPO to the TV is working. The Info text will show you what it thinks is coming in on the Rear HDMI Input from your PVR.
--Bob
post #2100 of 16443
Hi Bob

I just got my 103, everything was going great, it was playing movies from my external hard drives, I had all my settings done.. now for some reason, it does not seem to recognize the movies on the hard drives any longer, AND it will not keep my settings... Every time I turn off the player, I lose all my adjustments and have to re-enter them again.. they stay while the player is on, but once I turn it off, they reset.. And no idea why it saw all the movies and now it sees the hard drives are there, but will not display titles on the drives any longer..
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