Official OPPO BDP-103 Owner's Thread - Page 8

I am not complaining, but just hoping for future support and change in the way physical music and movie discs are sold. I am hoping for the ability to play lossless media that I paid for without having to put in a spinning disc. But because we all know that HDD fail, I would still like having the physical media in storage.

A laudable ambition, but not something the people in the Blu-ray Disc Association care to hear. They're the one's over in the corner with their hands clamped over their ears, screaming "NA! NA! NA! CAN'T HEAR YOU!"

The wonders of technology licensing. When you invent a disc format to replace Blu-ray, be sure you do a better job of licensing it, OK?
--Bob

I'm just thinking and sharing out loud. I don't profess to know better or know all the answers. People don't buy Oppo players just for the hardware specs alone of better picture or analog sound. I would guess that the vast majority make the purchase based on the "universal" capability of the player in being able to play dvd-a, sacd, dvd-a copies, sacd-r , universal region mods, and the network streaming abilities. Otherwise, the buyer would just go for a cheaper alternative of brand-X player.

Ive seen the magenta tinted screen once on startup. It was during the Oppo splash screen, before the player went to the home screen. Once it had another handshake and went to the home screen, the magenta went away, but in numerous power ups Ive only seen it once. HDMI 1 is direct connected to panasonic plasma and HDMI 2 is direct connected to AVR.

bdp-103 should arrive today, replacing a sony player....
will use the hdmi out to my integra/sunfire/jvc projector system...
lame questions.....i currently play flac files off a networked drive thru a wd live hub..
i am assuming that after connecting the oppo to the network (hard line or wireless) that i will be able to play these files... (hopefully with better sound quality...
thanks in advance
gm

Why would anyone add an after market exhaust? cold air intake? flash program? new rims? or anything to a car they bought? is this unfaithful to the original? why artificially enhance their car?

Why allow cms controls? is your color correctness the same as mine? Why change the brightness levels? Why allow us any control over our displays?

Why drink scotch???? Vodka? Beer? red wine? or not even drink at all?

Why do I like the movie 'Safe" when most do not? Why do I feel 'Requiem for a Dream' is one of the top worst movies I ever watched and some think it's a cinematic jewel?

hmmmm I don't know, maybe...personal preference?

Do you go for a flat frequency response as well? guess what... I much prefer a house curve.

OK, I tested that same disc as a BDMV folder via attached storage and it exhibited the same issue, so it has nothing to do with SMB.

The player can find and play networked files served up by a DLNA server, or you can log into an SMB capable device and see them as a networked drive. If your hub can handle either of those then you should be good to go.
--Bob
Edited by Bob Pariseau - 10/5/12 at 9:05am

My gosh ...Bob is nearing 22,000 posts!!! It wasn't long ago that he almost broke AVS with his 20,000 post count!

Tried streaming .wtv files last night. There would be a blip of video then nothing. Couldn't get them to play on the PS3 either. They play fine in Media Center on the computer they were recorded, but something is up with them as I can't even get them to convert to anything.

I still prefer the ABT processing in the BDP-83 and DV-983 to either the BDP-93 or BDP-103 Qdeo. ABT is sharper with more detail, but there's a trade-off of a bit more mosquito noise. I think the Qdeo is applying too much noise reduction when scaling. Just my own preference.

I also tend to prefer the image from HDMI-2 on the 103 when scaling DVD, but this sometimes depends on the content. YMMV
Edited by rdgrimes - 10/5/12 at 10:15am

It's a good question, but the fact remains that Oppo has no control over this.

The Blu-ray Disc Association stands in the door preventing anyone that delivers a Bluray player from including the ability to play ISOs on anything other than a shiny disc. Those other streaming boxes can do whatever they want because they are not bluray players and therefore do not have to answer to the Association. Oppo briefly offered that capability on the 93/95, then I'm sure earned the ire of the Association to the point that they were forced to shut that capability down.

So the Oppo players are universal as far as they are able to be. With the new players, if you need ISO playback with an Oppo's processing, take a streaming box and feed its output into the back of the Oppo.

Another file format the 103 plays fine and the 93 doesn't: WMA PRO. I downloaded few videos from this site: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/shaun.zoe/projects/hdtv.htm and they are all WMV HD. Picture and audio are excellent and can be used as a demo for your friends. The 103 plays them flawlessly but the 93 can't play the audio.

Hmm. I don't think that is supposed to work. In my testing it crashed the player, which is a bug. Should just put up a message.

I'll fetch some from your link and add them to my test suite.

-Bill

Another new topic for the FAQ: Is the player a Digital Media Renderer?

On this I only know what I read. I'll add any tips or gotchas posted here or mailed to me.

-Bill

[/gush]

Yes! All I can say is WOW!!! Probably not a fair comparison but I am upgrading from a Samsung BD-C5500 and it's like I also upgraded my TV and AVR, video and audio is %1000 improved, win all around! Briefly tried both Blu-ray and DVD.

I've got the 103 hooked up to my home automation system and with a few minor driver tweaks (on the HA driver) will have control of my Oppo.. :-)

Love the speed of this unit, love the 5 disc memory, remembers the stopping point on the last 5 discs placed in the player. Network setup was the easiest I've experienced on a consumer AV product; I'm hardwired with static IP and all I had to do was swtich from DHCP to static, the Oppo had already filled in the fields, I just needed to change the final octet to the address of my choice, cool!

Netflix and Vudu setup was completely painless and easy

Tried the Android remote app, works. Don't like that you can't turn the player on (going to try again in "fast boot" mode since more of the unit is powered up to see if the network is active in that state)

The old adage, you get what you pay for (Samsung BD-C5500), in this case IMHO, you are getting way more than you pay for and what a difference. The packaging weighs more than my old Samsung unit. The feel of the Oppo and the remote are first rate, very substantial. The remote is easy to use. Bob commented somewhere earlier in one of the threads about the manual, the manual is not only first rate in how it is written but the quality of the printing and the paper it is printed on is also high quality.

That's is far as I got yesterday evening, more coming...

Thanks to Bob and all of the other beta testers that shared info in the Anticipation thread, it convinced me to drop the coin on the unit as soon as it was available!

[/end gush]

-Ben
Edited by batwater - 10/5/12 at 11:06am

I downloaded few more videos from that site, all played fine using both DLNA or SMB from Mybook Live server. With the 93 I get a msg about no support for the audio but all is good with the 103.I only downloaded 1080P versions. The Magic of flight is a wonderful video.

Confirmed that this plays, the Oppo indicated WMA 5.1 48KHz and WMV3. (The source is 1440x1080).

Reading through some of the articles, I am thinking that this is an issue with Direct TV's hardware/software and the handling of HDCP. Ths problem is Direct TV's and not OPPOs so Direct TV is going to have to fix it, unless some 103 owners with cable boxes have the issue but none have been reported so far.

I apologize for taking so long to post but I only have access to AVS when I am on my home computer. I do not have any mobile devices and can only post when time allows, which is very limited.

Got a little hands-on time today.
(coming from 93) It is speedier.
The remote is improved. I can point it anywhere & it works; also it's a bit lighter and the buttons are not so stiff feeling.
I like the new media browser so far. The thumbnail view for pictures is really useful now.
Gracenote music info does not work with flac, I guess. Not a problem if you're tagged properly already.
I don't know if this is a new feature, but I had it in Pure Audio mode to blank out the plasma display, and I hit info and the screen comes on briefly to the now playing screen so you can see the artist/song info. I don't remember it doing that on the 93.
I will be spinning one of those old-fashioned disc things later with a DVD, so I will see if I notice any improvements in the upscaling.

Oppo tech support says that Oppo is in continuing negotiations with other internet sources regarding future internet apps that might become available on the BDP-103 in the future, but until that day arrives, what is the best way to access HBO GO and all of the HBO content that is unavailable on Netflix and VUDU while taking advantage of the beautiful upscaling of the BDP-103 player?

I found a bug that I'm able to reproduce fairly easily. I was playing a shiny disk (Netflix Doomsday DVD) when I saw a sign flash by I wanted to read. So I navigated back to it, But when I restarted the movie, video resumed, but audio took a couple of seconds to come on. i never saw this on the -93 with all of the back-and-forthing I have done. The sequence is:

[movie playing]
Pause
Back slowly 1/16, 1/8, etc
Pause
Forward slowly (without this step, the audio bug doesn't occur)
Pause
Pause (On my Harmony, the second Pause resumes the movie)[Audio takes ~2 seconds to resume]

After confirming the sequence, I paused the -103 to write this down. Then it took a short while to resume after just that pause. I didn't confirm whether this bit was reproducible. I had a shiny disk to finish.

I'll post this to Oppo. But I thought others might want to see if I'm imagining things.

I don't know specifically about HBO GO, but the Roku Streaming Stick is supposedly coming out this month and will add access to lots of different Internet services. It plugs into the Front HDMI Input and is controlled using the player's own remote. It has its own Wifi, independent of the networking of the OPPO. So you will need a Wifi setup to use it.

If you have another way to access the HBO content, try feeding the result of that into the Front or Rear HDMI Input.
--Bob

You may want to add to the FAQ that on Windows creating a directory junction also works. For example:
Where "vdrive" is the name of the link you want to create and "g:" is the virtual drive. I find this quicker and easier to do, but since you only have to do it once, I guess it really doesn't matter.

A second bug. I started to play a Netflix Splice DVD. Went through all of the previews. At the disk menu I hit play. The -103 froze at 17 seconds of play. Play and stop didn't work. Eject didn't work. Power off took 3-4 tries at the front panel button. Power on resulted in an eject cycle. When I closed the tray, the -103 did not resume; it acted as though seeing the disk for the first time. The second time, the movie played fine.

~Ken

 

Here's the way it worked when I was a firmware programmer. DirecTV is the 800lb gorilla. DirecTV's equipment "just works" in other setups. Oppo is the newcomer. Therefore, it's Oppo's problem; it doesn't matter whose fault it is.

Had a bug using the thumbnail/folder photo viewer with USB attached drive. I was viewing photos, hit return to go back to thumbnail/folder view, hit the up arrow folder icon, and it ejected the tray! Hitting it again closed the tray. It has worked fine since, and I can not reproduce the error.

Just keep in mind that HBO GO must be authorized by the provider forf each specific device. Directv, for example, authorizes for the Ipad an Sansung deviçes but not for the Roku. Unless this policy changes, the Roku stick will not work with HBO GO if the provider is Directv as far as I know, it should work with Dish and some cable providers.