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post #2221 of 16442
I would have to agree with Bill I own and use both 83 and the 103 and can not really tell the difference between them for DVD performance.
post #2222 of 16442
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Originally Posted by Dbuudo07 View Post


Thanks Bill. That's what I wanted to hear. I guess I'll just have to experiment with the settings. I was reading about the dual HDMI having separate video processors and that HDMI 2 seems to deliver better DVD performance than HDMI 1. Do they both handle Blu Rays the same?

Blu-ray requires little video processing so the QDEO doesn't do much for it. The signal takes a different path through the machine for HDMI1 & 2 video, so it's probably wrong to say they are identical. Basically equivalent in image quality. Features like zooming may be different.

For DVD performance: firmware updates may alter the image quality, so it is something to revisit from time to time.

-Bill
post #2223 of 16442
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Originally Posted by skriefal View Post

This happens via SMB and via DLNA playback (through Squeezebox Server's DLNA support). So might be a FLAC decoder issue. I attempted to search for other reports of this issue but found nothing. Known issue?
(I've encountered the same issue with my just-acquired BDP-105, FWIW.)

I have been using my 105 to play FLACs off a Squeezebox Server running on a dual core Atom under Centos 6.3 using its DLNA support. I did have one case where it looked like my HDMI handshake failed part way through the playback, but that isn't what you are describing.

My networking is via power line which in my home anyway is far faster and more stable than WiFi.

I wonder if your issue is specific to a certain FLAC format variation?
post #2224 of 16442
Forgive folks if I crash in middle, I only have one question about 2D to 3D conversion, may I ask have anyone watch 2D content ( DVD or Blu ray ) convert it to 3D and is it same quality as original 3D content or still the original 3D content is superior ?
If this question answered before then can someone please send me the link. And thank you very much.
post #2225 of 16442
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Originally Posted by Knight7m View Post

Forgive folks if I crash in middle, I only have one question about 2D to 3D conversion, may I ask have anyone watch 2D content ( DVD or Blu ray ) convert it to 3D and is it same quality as original 3D content or still the original 3D content is superior ?
If this question answered before then can someone please send me the link. And thank you very much.

There is no way 2D->3D conversion can be the same as 3D native content. That's just impossible.

-Bill
post #2226 of 16442
Thank you wmcclain for reply. You mean the native 3D content are superior?
Edited by Knight7m - 11/20/12 at 12:05pm
post #2227 of 16442
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Originally Posted by Knight7m View Post

Thank you wmcclain for reply. You mean still native 3D content are superior?

Yes.

(From someone who hasn't seen a 3D movie since around 1983: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086346/).

-Bill
post #2228 of 16442
Just a quick comment. I emailed OPPO about why the player does not have Amazon VOD and the reply was that Amazon refuses to work with OPPO on the software; therefore the OPPO will not have Amazon VOD anytime soon. Since I use Amazon prime, it is a shame that I cannot access it on the OPPO. It is interesting that Amazon sells the units on its site.
post #2229 of 16442
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Originally Posted by justinto View Post

Just a quick comment. I emailed OPPO about why the player does not have Amazon VOD and the reply was that Amazon refuses to work with OPPO on the software; therefore the OPPO will not have Amazon VOD anytime soon. Since I use Amazon prime, it is a shame that I cannot access it on the OPPO. It is interesting that Amazon sells the units on its site.

A feature of the player is support for the Roku Streaming Stick. Doesn't that have Amazon?

-Bill
post #2230 of 16442
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Originally Posted by 117olddude View Post

Audio is DTS, which is not listed on either supported OR unsupported page. I'll send a copy to Oppo.
DTS is absolutely supported by the 103 so this sounds like a MKV authoring problem. Hopefully this is something that Oppo can accommodate in a future firmware release since it works with VLC.
post #2231 of 16442
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

There is no way 2D->3D conversion can be the same as 3D native content. That's just impossible.
-Bill

Well, it's impossible for a chip in a TV or disc player to get close to the look of "real" 3D. It is NOT impossible for a post-production studio with state-of-the-art tools. Titanic was shot in 2D then recently coverted to 3D and re-released (in theaters and on Blu-ray 3D) and you simply cannot tell it wasn't originally shot in 3D. (this is from somone who as seen a LOT of 3D in the last 10+ years).

But because it is possible to produce excellent 3D from 2D sources in post-production (with considerable human intervention), it's only a matter of time before 2D>3D home conversion improves enough to be more than a novelty. Right now, home 2D>3D conversion ranges from barely-detectable-as-different-from-2D up to fairly-good-for-brief-periods. The devices that are in the barely-detectable-as-different-from-3D category, though, always look the same... they never get better or worse. The devices that occasionally produce fairly good 3D effect tend to range from no 3D effect to fairly good at times to screwed up perspective at other times.
post #2232 of 16442
I was fairly impressed by the 2D->3D conversion of the the 103.

Just tried it on the Avengers. I also have the native 3D version of this movie and I thought the conversion version was really good.
post #2233 of 16442
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ Put the FLAC files on a directly attached USB hard drive or stick and see if they play that way. If not, get a sample to OPPO. In general, well formed FLAC files play just fine. OPPO has seen some examples of incorrectly formatted FLAC files from commercial sites.
--Bob

I've found that the files that don't play via SMB/DLNA also will not play from a USB flash drive (with BDP-103 and BDP-105). The same files work fine with a Squeezebox Touch, and with an Oppo BDP-93 via DLNA or USB.

Seems that there are some decoder differences between the BDP-93 and the BDP-103/105.
post #2234 of 16442
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Originally Posted by skriefal View Post

I've found that the files that don't play via SMB/DLNA also will not play from a USB flash drive (with BDP-103 and BDP-105). The same files work fine with a Squeezebox Touch, and with an Oppo BDP-93 via DLNA or USB.
Seems that there are some decoder differences between the BDP-93 and the BDP-103/105.

Please send a sample of a trouble file to Oppo. I have many thousands of FLAC files that all play on the 103 just fine, so there's some encoding issue that needs to be accounted for.

As a test, take one of your non-working files and decode it on your PC to WAV. Strip any tags off and re-encode back to FLAC using the latest codec. See if it works now.
post #2235 of 16442
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

Please send a sample of a trouble file to Oppo. I have many thousands of FLAC files that all play on the 103 just fine, so there's some encoding issue that needs to be accounted for.
As a test, take one of your non-working files and decode it on your PC to WAV. Strip any tags off and re-encode back to FLAC using the latest codec. See if it works now.

I'm already in contact with Oppo and will be sending them a sample file.

The files that don't work seem to be older encodes -- some 8+ years old. Newer encodes do seem to work. That's based on a quick test of a subset of files. I did re-encode one of the non-working albums using the latest flac.exe (v1.2.1); the resulting files did work on the 103/105. So there may be an incompatibility with old FLAC encodes.
post #2236 of 16442
I have oppo 93... i use it for my blu-ray mainly... i don't have a home theatre system yet... is it worth upgrading to the 103?
post #2237 of 16442
I'm looking into getting the 103. The HDMI inputs have me intrigued. Currently I am setup with Dish Network and am running it via hdmi through Onkyo 805 AVR then on to tv. It sounds like its possible to connect a dish or direct tv receiver to the 103. I would be using the split hdmi 103 option. Does anybody have it setup like this? Is there significant picture quality improvement with Dish Network or even Direct TV when connected this way?
post #2238 of 16442
I run my directv into the back, and then let it scale everything to 1080p/60 out of HDMI 1 to the display and bit stream the 5.1 Dolby out of 2 to my Avr. I'm getting a hopper soon. I'm not sure it scales better than the display, but it gives me price of mind letting the Marvell handle the scaling.
post #2239 of 16442
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Originally Posted by NY613 View Post

I have oppo 93... i use it for my blu-ray mainly... i don't have a home theatre system yet... is it worth upgrading to the 103?

Only if you have interest in its enhanced DLNA and video services over the 93. BD performance is identical between the two players and DVD upscaling performance seems to be beter on the 103 than on the 93 as confirmed by a few posters. Remember you loose component video on the 103 as well...

post #2240 of 16442
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Originally Posted by gadgtfreek View Post

I run my directv into the back, and then let it scale everything to 1080p/60 out of HDMI 1 to the display and bit stream the 5.1 Dolby out of 2 to my Avr. I'm getting a hopper soon. I'm not sure it scales better than the display, but it gives me price of mind letting the Marvell handle the scaling.

 

Try setting your directv video output settings to "passthrough" or something equivalent. Meaning it will not upscale anything but simply pass through a 480i input signal as 480i output, a 720p input as 720p output and 1080i input as 1080i output and let the 103 do the de-interlacing and upscaling to your final 1080p/60. I think you'll see the difference between the sat box and Qdeo in the 103...

post #2241 of 16442
Is there a passthrough setting in directv menu??
post #2242 of 16442
Its Native, and that's what I use.
post #2243 of 16442
I will be getting my 103 Tuesday from Amazon to replace my 93. smile.gif I haven't read through the 2200 posts to find the answer, but overall has the speed of this player improved when powering up & loading a disc over the 93?

Thank you
post #2244 of 16442
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Originally Posted by Jano18 View Post

I will be getting my 103 Tuesday from Amazon to replace my 93. smile.gif I haven't read through the 2200 posts to find the answer, but overall has the speed of this player improved when powering up & loading a disc over the 93?

Thank you
Yes. Particularly, for power up, if you set Quick Start. But in general, speed is faster across the board.
--Bob
post #2245 of 16442
I've been using my BDP-103 pretty solidly for the last 2 days. There are certainly some bugs to iron out. I've had several freezes, with a very difficult time playing FLAC files from an NTFS 2TB USB HDD. The biggest issue is going from a 24 bit file back to a 16 bit file. This always results in a freeze and a manual power down is required. On most occasions, after playing some FLAC files within one folder and navigating to another folder, the Oppo will freeze when attempting to play the new file from the new folder location. If it doesn't freeze, it begins all files several minutes in, and this does not stop. Every FLAC file played thereafter will start 1,2,3, as much as 4 minutes in. This doesn't go away until the player is manually restarted.

I hope they can spend some time improving the USB file browsing/playback functionality. It's an incredible feature to have!
post #2246 of 16442
Played my first (and so far only) Blu Ray disk on the 103 .... It was a Netflix rental disk of Prometheus and about 17-18 minutes in the player hung. Ejected the disk and inspected the surface and there were no scratches or bleminshes. Restarting at the hung point with no issues.... about 48-49 minutes in the same thing but instead of ejecting I just forwarded a few minutes and hit play again. Played fine. Backed up to the spot and it played fine from there with no other hangs. Weird... Will try a "store bought" disk and see how it handles that....

Have not had much time to try another title yet; been using the Netflx streaming and Pandora some and both services have been good....
post #2247 of 16442
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Originally Posted by gadgtfreek View Post

Its Native, and that's what I use.

Thanks I found it, seems to be much better
post #2248 of 16442
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Originally Posted by Duck05 View Post

Played my first (and so far only) Blu Ray disk on the 103 .... It was a Netflix rental disk of Prometheus and about 17-18 minutes in the player hung. Ejected the disk and inspected the surface and there were no scratches or bleminshes. Restarting at the hung point with no issues.... about 48-49 minutes in the same thing but instead of ejecting I just forwarded a few minutes and hit play again. Played fine. Backed up to the spot and it played fine from there with no other hangs. Weird... Will try a "store bought" disk and see how it handles that....
Have not had much time to try another title yet; been using the Netflx streaming and Pandora some and both services have been good....

I have had my 103 for a bit over a week and have played two Redbox Blu-rays, Prometheus and the new Spider Man with no issues. Love how I can go away for a while and just restart, the Denon was a pain. I run a Motorola cable box into the rear HDMI in and HDMI1 to my Sony and HDMI2 to the DHC80.3. I run optical from the Motorola to the 80.3. I have not had lip sync issues except once on the Voice, and it was minor. Tried the HDMI input from the 103 but no difference on lip sync, just lower volume. Haven't played with FLAC files yet with the USB inputs. So far I am really pleased. Now if I can sort out Audyssey for music, oops wrong thread.
post #2249 of 16442
I apologize if this question has been answered before. I have an Onkyo 805 which is only HDMI 1.3 compatible. I know I need to use the dual HDMI outputs of the Oppo in order to playback 3D, but I also want to use the analog inputs for the audio rather than digital through HDMI. How would I have to hook up the cables to make this work? My display will be a projector. Thanks!
post #2250 of 16442
Thread Starter 
You will just connect the multi-channel analog outputs into the multi-channel analog inputs on your receiver. Assign these to an input you want to use (example: DVD) and change the receiver to ANALOG.
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