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post #2281 of 16401
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Originally Posted by mantaraydesign View Post

What is the best calibration for best picture quality of the 103? The best calibration for both DVD and Blu-ray.
Maybe someone can create a new thread on the Calibration of the 103 for best picture performance.
That's the easy one: the 103 is "calibrated" perfectly right out of the box.

Any necessary changes are display specific so every user's "calibration" will be different and even then one has the choice of making the changes in the Oppo, the display itself, or another component in the chain such as a video processor.
post #2282 of 16401
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

The standard advice is to calibrate the display, not the player.
-Bill


Are you talking about calibrating my DLP Projector? So you are saying not to adjust the settings of the 103?
post #2283 of 16401
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Originally Posted by JohnAV View Post

Oppo BDP-103 Universal Network, 3D Blu-ray Player Reviewed
HomeTheaterReview.com
Andrew Robinson,November 19, 2012

 

In terms of sound quality, regardless of the format, the BDP-103 dished out a hell of a dynamic, textural and engaging sound experience. High frequencies were very nicely detailed and true to the source, as evident in the sound engineer's attempts to remove sibilance and mic hiss from the outdoor scenes in Battleship. Vocals were rich and natural in their timbre, as was the BDP-103's entire midrange for that matter - also evident in my demo of Dave Matthews and Tim Reynolds Live at Radio City Music Hall on Blu-ray (Sony BMG).

 

Bass was taut and very nicely defined throughout and the soundstage, whether it two-channel or multi, possessed solid width and depth with natural definition and space throughout. As a transport into a preamp, there is little I can find fault with in terms of the BDP-103's sound quality. Relying on the BDP-103's internal DACs provided similar but not identical results.

 

There was a bit of smoothing throughout, but not much. Both setups proved the 103 to be largely (or near as makes no difference) neutral. I even enjoyed listening to Internet radio and lower-quality MP3s via the BDP-103. This should tell you everything you need to know about its sound prowess: true to the source but not overly critical of it, the way a modern player should be.

post #2284 of 16401
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Originally Posted by mantaraydesign View Post

Are you talking about calibrating my DLP Projector? So you are saying not to adjust the settings of the 103?

It's the projector that's rendering the digital data into color, light and shadow. That's where you need the calibration.
post #2285 of 16401
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Originally Posted by mantaraydesign View Post

What is the best calibration for best picture quality of the 103? The best calibration for both DVD and Blu-ray.

Maybe someone can create a new thread on the Calibration of the 103 for best picture performance.

Use the default (0) Picture Adjustment values in the OPPO and make any video calibration changes in your Display. Set that way, the OPPO sends out "reference level" video signals on the HDMI outputs, and your TV simply needs to be adjusted to render those correctly.

You should use a good calibration disc to aid in this. I like Spears & Munsil, Blu-ray. With that you will use the settings in your TV to set black levels (Brightness), white levels (Contrast), color levels (Color Saturation, and Tint), and vertical edge enhancement (Sharpness). You will also need to set your TV to its optimal "picture mode" for displaying movies -- including setting the "standard" Color Temperature. You will also need to turn off the so-called image "enhancement" features of your TV.

The idea is to set things up for proper display of high quality content. You can then tweak from there if you feel the need to divert from "correct" rendering due to personal preference or whatever.

There is a whole forum here dedicated to display calibration if you need to get up to speed on the basics.
--Bob
post #2286 of 16401
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

There is a Setup setting (Auto Play) which will control this behavior for AUDIO discs but not for movie discs. I've been trying to convince OPPO for some time now that they ought to add an additional setting here for movie discs, but their past history with customer comments/confusion on this has convinced them that movie discs really should Auto Play ALL the time. Send OPPO an email.
For now, the workaround is as you've stated. Use Tray Open to both power on the player and open the tray so the disc does not start.
If you forget, the Home button is the first button that will respond to abort a disc loading that's already in progress. (Disc's are typically authored to prevent other buttons, like Stop, from working while the disc is putting up initial warning screens and studio logos.)
--Bob
Done. smile.gif Thanks Bob.
I didn't realize the Home button would interrupt disc loading. I guess that's one way to go as well. Still, if the option is there for audio discs, it should be there for movies, too.
post #2287 of 16401
Sorry if this has already been covered, but whenever the Android remote control app arrives, will it be functional with OS version 2.3.5?
post #2288 of 16401
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

In the 103, turn Secondary Audio OFF. Also turn DTS Neo:6 surround processing OFF. Check again to be sure Split A/V is set (not Dual Display) -- actually change it to Dual Display and then back to Split A/V. See what you get now on HDMI 2.
--Bob

Thanks, that worked! I believe it was the DTS setting (the text says it only affects the analog outputs).
post #2289 of 16401
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Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

Sorry if this has already been covered, but whenever the Android remote control app arrives, will it be functional with OS version 2.3.5?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oppo.oremote.message&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5vcHBvLm9yZW1vdGUubWVzc2FnZSJd
"REQUIRES ANDROID: 2.3 and up"
post #2290 of 16401
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Originally Posted by Regnad View Post

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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

In the 103, turn Secondary Audio OFF. Also turn DTS Neo:6 surround processing OFF. Check again to be sure Split A/V is set (not Dual Display) -- actually change it to Dual Display and then back to Split A/V. See what you get now on HDMI 2.
--Bob

Thanks, that worked! I believe it was the DTS setting (the text says it only affects the analog outputs).

OK, I've already reported this as a bug against the Beta firmware I'm testing. I just didn't know for sure if it was also in Official 1018 as well.

Setting DTS Neo:6 to MUSIC or MOVIE limits audio output to 44.1 or 48KHz depending on the content. This is true even on HDMI (where Neo:6 is not supposed to do anything) and even for multi-channel content (where Neo:6 shouldn't be turning on at all, even for Analog output).

Fortunately the Neo:6 setting can be altered on the fly (while content is playing), so if you forget to turn it off before starting playback, you can do so while playback continues.
--Bob
post #2291 of 16401
Thanks! It looks like I can grab the Samsung Galaxy and be safe for this purpose.
post #2292 of 16401
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Originally Posted by skriefal View Post

I've recently begun testing my BDP-103 for FLAC playback from my server and have found that it's problematic at best. Most files won't play -- usually the 103 will quickly move through the files in the directory, failing to play each one and then moving to the next file in <1 second. Sometimes it'll take a little longer. A few seemingly random albums play fine, but probably 95% don't. I have not identified any pattern between files that play and those that don't.
This happens via SMB and via DLNA playback (through Squeezebox Server's DLNA support). So might be a FLAC decoder issue. I attempted to search for other reports of this issue but found nothing. Known issue?
(I've encountered the same issue with my just-acquired BDP-105, FWIW.)

Same issue here, I ripped all my CDs with EAC to FLAC and Oppo will not play them, but my Denon 4311 and computer play them fine. I sent oppo some examples and they are looking at them
post #2293 of 16401
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

In terms of sound quality, regardless of the format, the BDP-103 dished out a hell of a dynamic, textural and engaging sound experience. High frequencies were very nicely detailed and true to the source, as evident in the sound engineer's attempts to remove sibilance and mic hiss from the outdoor scenes in Battleship. Vocals were rich and natural in their timbre, as was the BDP-103's entire midrange for that matter - also evident in my demo of Dave Matthews and Tim Reynolds Live at Radio City Music Hall on Blu-ray (Sony BMG).

Bass was taut and very nicely defined throughout and the soundstage, whether it two-channel or multi, possessed solid width and depth with natural definition and space throughout. As a transport into a preamp, there is little I can find fault with in terms of the BDP-103's sound quality. Relying on the BDP-103's internal DACs provided similar but not identical results.

There was a bit of smoothing throughout, but not much. Both setups proved the 103 to be largely (or near as makes no difference) neutral. I even enjoyed listening to Internet radio and lower-quality MP3s via the BDP-103. This should tell you everything you need to know about its sound prowess: true to the source but not overly critical of it, the way a modern player should be.
What I really want to read is a good write up between the 103 and the 105 and the difference in the Analogue 2 channel Hi Def sound (DVD-A, SACD, 24/96). While auditioning for Home Theater is a good start, this device is also of keen interest for the Analogue lovers out there who are hoping this comes close enough to vinyl to be worth the investment with out spending thousands of dollars. My initial impressions of the 103 were good but not blow my socks off spectacular. I pulled the trigger on the 105 and will be doing a side by side comparison later this week. I will post my findings and try to be as objective as possible.
post #2294 of 16401
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Originally Posted by bakerwi View Post

I have a Sony BDP-S790 that I also prefer over the BDP-93, but the improvement was subtle. The picture (DVD) just looks a little cleaner. However, I preferred the BDP-93 for blu-ray playback,smile.gif Now, I prefer the BDP-103 over Sony for DVD playback as the BDP-103 is much improved over the BDP-93 IMO as I spend more time with it.smile.gif
I have to agree and give a slight nod to the 103, but the 103 and the 790 are real close as far as DVD playback. I may now unload the 790 as it was my streamer and DVD player alongside of the 93 for blu ray playback. The only thing holding me back from doing so is the 790's ability to do Amazon streaming. May go ahead and sell the 790 and add a Roku stick for the 103 to make it a complete player.
post #2295 of 16401
Does the BDP-103 output Netflix data streams in their supplied framerate? IOW will the player auto detect and display 1080P/24FPS streams?
post #2296 of 16401
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Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

Thanks! It looks like I can grab the Samsung Galaxy and be safe for this purpose.

An alternative, if you're interested, is an app called Touch Squid. I'm using it on a Samsung Galaxy and am quite happy with it - it's taken the place of my Harmony Remote (I got the Pro edition that gives the ability to do macros, insert delays, etc for controlling all the A/V equipment). It didn't have all the buttons preprogrammed, but it does know all the codes so it's easy to add buttons & program 'em up.
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^ OPPO has no say in what resellers try to charge. This claims to be a "Region Free" player, which would mean the reseller had to open it up and modify it, as no player is shipped from OPPO Digital that way.

Modded 103/105 players are pretty new, so market pricing hasn't been established. Expect some price gouging.
--Bob
post #2299 of 16401
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Originally Posted by kluken View Post

Same issue here, I ripped all my CDs with EAC to FLAC and Oppo will not play them, but my Denon 4311 and computer play them fine. I sent oppo some examples and they are looking at them

I also sent a sample file. Between your sample(s) and mine, Oppo should have what they need to identify the cause. Hopefully it's something that can be easily fixed!
post #2300 of 16401
Can somebody please tell me whether this unit will run a PC monitor at 23.976Hz or 24Hz?
post #2301 of 16401
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Originally Posted by Oubadah View Post

Can somebody please tell me whether this unit will run a PC monitor at 23.976Hz or 24Hz?
If it has an HDMI input that accepts that, then yes. Many PC monitors will NOT have HDMI Inputs.
--Bob
post #2302 of 16401
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Originally Posted by Oubadah View Post

Can somebody please tell me whether this unit will run a PC monitor at 23.976Hz or 24Hz?
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

If it has an HDMI input that accepts that, then yes. Many PC monitors will NOT have HDMI Inputs.
--Bob
And just to jump in, HDMI and DVI video signaling is identical so if the PC monitor includes HDCP (some do) a simple and very inexpensive HDMI-to-DVI cable will work. (example cable from a forum sponsor)
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Problems with FLAC files showing up twice
Just got a new OPPO BDP-103 and I am in love with it. Works amazing and sounds so much better than my PS3. Using ps3mediaserver as a DLNA server. The PS3 media server detects it as an OPPO 93 but streams of video and mp3 work fine. (Is there a 103 config yet?)

My problem is with FLAC files. Whenever I browse to a directory it shows double of every song. Directories of mp3's show fine. The FLAC files play and sound great but it's not very nice for listening if I have to skip every other song.

Anybody else have this problem or know of a way I can test to see if it is a ps3m3dia server issue or an OPPO issue.
I can't test with the PS3 because it doesn't even display FLAC files.
post #2304 of 16401
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Originally Posted by Clark Burk View Post

I have to agree and give a slight nod to the 103, but the 103 and the 790 are real close as far as DVD playback. I may now unload the 790 as it was my streamer and DVD player alongside of the 93 for blu ray playback. The only thing holding me back from doing so is the 790's ability to do Amazon streaming. May go ahead and sell the 790 and add a Roku stick for the 103 to make it a complete player.

DVD playback in the S790 was a pleasant surprise for me.biggrin.gif It is actually in my bedroom mated with a BDP-93 specificly for streaming (wife mandate).smile.gif
post #2305 of 16401
My S790 has been a better streaming box than the 103 so far. In the last couple of weeks I would be in the middle of streaming either Netfix or VUDU with the 103 and it would hard lock and then could not get back into the service. I would switch over to the S790 and it connected right up and would continue the stream. Very frustrating. I like having the Amazon Prime service on the S790 and will probably hang onto it until I'm sure the 103 will be a reliable streamer.
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I got some neat surprise last night. I have had successfully setup SMB with my Windows 7 home PC over the week end and last night was playing some MP3's from that share through the 103. There where notifications for updates on my PC that demanded a reboot. Without realizing the implication I rebooted. When I heard the music stop I wondered why, yeah I know the brain was off last night. But the cool thing is that as soon as the PC had rebooted, my 103 reconnected on its own, picked up where it left off and started back the music. I think that's pretty cool.
post #2307 of 16401
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Originally Posted by BobearQSI View Post

I have Dish Network, and their receivers (unlike Direct TV) do not allow any sort of passthough or native setting. You get one choice for output. Assuming you set your output to 1080, your Dish Network box will upscale all SD content and 720p content (poorly, IMO) to 1080i, and then send that out. The question from there is whether your TV or the Oppo does a better job of de-interlacing the 1080i into 1080p. But likely, upscaled SD content will already be poor quality, and you wouldn't know the difference. For material that is already 1080i (most HD channels), it will be output normally. I can't imagine a straight TV 1080i signal to 1080p would show much difference if the Oppo does it or your TV, but you'd have to see what other people say about your TV.

This is news to me. I can set my analog input (off air, cable, etc.) to output a specific resolution. Didn't think this had any affect on the satellite feed. Are you refering to the HDTV setup option under System Setup or something else?

Thanks.
post #2308 of 16401
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Originally Posted by mantaraydesign View Post

Are you talking about calibrating my DLP Projector? So you are saying not to adjust the settings of the 103?

Using the right menu settings is not calibration... that's why people are saying to calibrate the video display. Calibration corrects grayscale, gamma, and color as much as the video display will allow. Finding the best settings for a disc is not always obvious because the video display may work better with some settings than others. For example, for most video displays, you want to set the color format to YCbCr 4:2:2. But there are a few video displays that make better-looking images when you send RGB (Sony's XBR LCD panels from about 3 years ago are 1 example of this, but there are others also). So one person's "best settings" may not be the best settings for someone else.

There are some things to turn off... anything that changes the video or sound, for example. But if one of those settings is useful for your system, turning it off may not be the right thing to do. A lot of people are obsessed with sending TrueHD or DTS-HD MA to their AVR or surround processor just so they can see the light on the front panel of the AVR illuminate, but it is actually easier to send PCM to the AVR so that the disc player can mix-in menu sound effects and secondary audio tracks if you ever use them. If you insist on sending Dolby or DTS codecs to the AVR/processor, you can't get the secondary audio information from the disc player. Since every product decodes Dolby and DTS the same way, it doesn't really matter whether the disc player or AVR/processor does the decoding. All audio processing is done in PCM mode so Dolby and DTS are always decoded first, then processed. It doesn't matter WHERE the Dolby or DTS track is decoded, you get the same end result.
Edited by Doug Blackburn - 11/20/12 at 9:17am
post #2309 of 16401
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Originally Posted by dormie1360 View Post

This is news to me. I can set my analog input (off air, cable, etc.) to output a specific resolution. Didn't think this had any affect on the satellite feed. Are you refering to the HDTV setup option under System Setup or something else?
Thanks.
It's been about 6 months since I last checked, but when I did none of their receivers supported it. On my receiver, the setting in question is System Setup->HDTV Setup->TV Type. The "Analog Type" simply sets the decoding mode of the co-ax input for digital over the air vs. cable, etc. Even though the setting is nearby, it has nothing to do with "TV Type." That sets the HDMI output resolution which does not change no matter what channel, except for a few PPV movies that use 1080p instead.

Thus, there's no way to get the Oppo to scale SD content unless you set your TV type to 480i. But then, it will also downscale all HD channels to 480i as well, so you'd have to go into that menu and change the resolution each time you switch between an SD and an HD channel.
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Originally Posted by tabooki View Post

Problems with FLAC files showing up twice
Just got a new OPPO BDP-103 and I am in love with it. Works amazing and sounds so much better than my PS3. Using ps3mediaserver as a DLNA server. The PS3 media server detects it as an OPPO 93 but streams of video and mp3 work fine. (Is there a 103 config yet?)
My problem is with FLAC files. Whenever I browse to a directory it shows double of every song. Directories of mp3's show fine. The FLAC files play and sound great but it's not very nice for listening if I have to skip every other song.
Anybody else have this problem or know of a way I can test to see if it is a ps3m3dia server issue or an OPPO issue.
I can't test with the PS3 because it doesn't even display FLAC files.

I do not have this problem with the Logitech Media Server I have running on a Linux system. I have only flac files, and they only show up once in the directory listing when I browse using the Oppo.
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