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post #2311 of 9196
11/20/12 at 10:55am
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Originally Posted by tabooki View Post

Problems with FLAC files showing up twice
Just got a new OPPO BDP-103 and I am in love with it. Works amazing and sounds so much better than my PS3. Using ps3mediaserver as a DLNA server. The PS3 media server detects it as an OPPO 93 but streams of video and mp3 work fine. (Is there a 103 config yet?)
My problem is with FLAC files. Whenever I browse to a directory it shows double of every song. Directories of mp3's show fine. The FLAC files play and sound great but it's not very nice for listening if I have to skip every other song.
Anybody else have this problem or know of a way I can test to see if it is a ps3m3dia server issue or an OPPO issue.
I can't test with the PS3 because it doesn't even display FLAC files.

Be aware that with Oppo's SMB support, you don't need to use a DNLA server at all. Once you master the arcane art of Windows file sharing you can access those files directly. wink.gif
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post #2312 of 9196
11/20/12 at 11:30am
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

Be aware that with Oppo's SMB support, you don't need to use a DNLA server at all. Once you master the arcane art of Windows file sharing you can access those files directly. wink.gif

I live in a windows free house. smile.gif
I guess I could setup a samba server but is there benefit over using DLNA?
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post #2313 of 9196
11/20/12 at 11:36am
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Originally Posted by tabooki View Post


I live in a windows free house. smile.gif
I guess I could setup a samba server but is there benefit over using DLNA?

DLNA doesn't support everything: external subtitle files and AVCHD folders, for example. All files supported on local storage should also work with SMB.

On the other hand, DLNA support is "official" and SMB is still experimental. It needs some work: files and directories are not sorted correctly at the moment.

-Bill
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post #2314 of 9196
11/20/12 at 11:41am
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

DLNA doesn't support everything: external subtitle files and AVCHD folders, for example. All files supported on local storage should also work with SMB.
On the other hand, DLNA support is "official" and SMB is still experimental. It needs some work: files and directories are not sorted correctly at the moment.
-Bill

and I have found that chapters do not always work with DLNA (using oShare) but work great under SMB share. The 103 will give the slashed red circle if I press previous chapter/next chapter on certain files. That does not happen under SMB.

I must admit, since I got SMB working, there is no looking back! cool.gif
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post #2315 of 9196
11/20/12 at 11:51am
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Originally Posted by jboileau View Post


I must admit, since I got SMB working, there is no looking back! cool.gif

I just created a bunch of Shares and I'll add them when I get home and test things out. The only reason I tended to use a dlna server was for the transcoding. I have found some movies won't play and the ps3media server was great at fixing them for me.
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post #2316 of 9196
11/20/12 at 11:51am
i did forget to say hi. eek.gifeek.gif I have been reading this forum for weeks, but just recently started posting since I got my 103. So hi to all and thanks to the regulars who helped me along deciding if the 103 was for me.
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post #2317 of 9196
11/20/12 at 11:59am
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Originally Posted by tabooki View Post

I just created a bunch of Shares and I'll add them when I get home and test things out. The only reason I tended to use a dlna server was for the transcoding. I have found some movies won't play and the ps3media server was great at fixing them for me.

Personnaly, if I had files that needed transcoding I would not use a DLNA server to do it while I play it. I would certainly not let that be an obstacle to go to SMB. I would simply reencode them once and for all.
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post #2318 of 9196
11/20/12 at 12:06pm
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Originally Posted by tabooki View Post

Problems with FLAC files showing up twice
Just got a new OPPO BDP-103 and I am in love with it. Works amazing and sounds so much better than my PS3. Using ps3mediaserver as a DLNA server. The PS3 media server detects it as an OPPO 93 but streams of video and mp3 work fine. (Is there a 103 config yet?)
My problem is with FLAC files. Whenever I browse to a directory it shows double of every song. Directories of mp3's show fine. The FLAC files play and sound great but it's not very nice for listening if I have to skip every other song.
Anybody else have this problem or know of a way I can test to see if it is a ps3m3dia server issue or an OPPO issue.
I can't test with the PS3 because it doesn't even display FLAC files.
That's an issue with ps3mediaserver. I have it too, although not everybody does. I have not been able to figure out how to correct it. It must have to do with trying to transcode flac files, but even when set to not transcode anything, I still see the same problem. I am using Twonky at the moment and it does not have the double flac issue.
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post #2319 of 9196
11/20/12 at 12:55pm
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Originally Posted by darkphader View Post

I'm not getting any filename sorting using SMB. Folders are shown in no discernible order.

Mine are in alphabetic order through my SMB share under Windows 7.
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post #2320 of 9196
11/20/12 at 1:17pm
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Originally Posted by bluechunks View Post

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Originally Posted by Oubadah View Post

Can somebody please tell me whether this unit will run a PC monitor at 23.976Hz or 24Hz?
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

If it has an HDMI input that accepts that, then yes. Many PC monitors will NOT have HDMI Inputs.
--Bob
And just to jump in, HDMI and DVI video signaling is identical so if the PC monitor includes HDCP (some do) a simple and very inexpensive HDMI-to-DVI cable will work. (example cable from a forum sponsor)

Although using an HDCP (copy protection) compliant DVI input display will work, it will be pretty unusual to find a DVI computer monitor that accepts 1080p/24 and "does the right thing" with it -- i.e., changes to a refresh rate which is a multiple of 24 frames per second. In cases where it DOES work, the monitor may not publish that it can accept that -- meaning you'll have to set the OPPO to 1080p/24 ON instead of AUTO so the player knows it is OK to send /24 even though the display does not admit to being able to handle that. Some such DVI monitors will accept /48 but not /24. However the OPPO can not be set to output /48, so you would need some sort of external video processor between the OPPO and a monitor like that.
--Bob
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post #2321 of 9196
11/20/12 at 1:18pm
Hello folks I'm going to be purchasing the 103 hopefully next month.

My main use is to play DVD/Blu-Ray with AVI/MKV support from external hard drives. How well does the Oppo handle AVI and MKV files from an external hard drive? Is it possible to use a powerless external hard drive or we have to use a powered external hard drive?

I have plenty of music concert material on MKV (none using True-HD, just FLAC tracks), and various TV shown in AVI. I need to know how Plug-In-Play is the Oppo. I was planning to get a Dune or a PCH but the Oppo is more right up my alley.
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post #2322 of 9196
11/20/12 at 1:22pm
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Originally Posted by HyperDuel View Post

Hello folks I'm going to be purchasing the 103 hopefully next month.
My main use is to play DVD/Blu-Ray with AVI/MKV support from external hard drives. How well does the Oppo handle AVI and MKV files from an external hard drive? Is it possible to use a powerless external hard drive or we have to use a powered external hard drive?
I have plenty of music concert material on MKV (none using True-HD, just FLAC tracks), and various TV shown in AVI. I need to know how Plug-In-Play is the Oppo. I was planning to get a Dune or a PCH but the Oppo is more right up my alley.
I haven't tried an AVI, but MKV's work great with an external drive (or over your home network) including MKV's encoded with DTS-MA or FLAC.
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post #2323 of 9196
11/20/12 at 1:33pm
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Originally Posted by HyperDuel View Post

Hello folks I'm going to be purchasing the 103 hopefully next month.

My main use is to play DVD/Blu-Ray with AVI/MKV support from external hard drives. How well does the Oppo handle AVI and MKV files from an external hard drive? Is it possible to use a powerless external hard drive or we have to use a powered external hard drive?

I have plenty of music concert material on MKV (none using True-HD, just FLAC tracks), and various TV shown in AVI. I need to know how Plug-In-Play is the Oppo. I was planning to get a Dune or a PCH but the Oppo is more right up my alley.

The containers are supported, but the A/V codecs inside must also be supported, so it depends on what you have.

USB power: The manual says:
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The USB ports are rated to provide a maximum of 5V, 1000mA power to the USB drive. It is sufficient for USB
thumb drives and flash memory card readers, but may not be sufficient for USB hard disks. It is recommended
to check with your drive manufacturer for power requirements, or use an external power supply.

-Bill
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post #2324 of 9196
11/20/12 at 1:49pm
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Originally Posted by HyperDuel View Post

Hello folks I'm going to be purchasing the 103 hopefully next month.
My main use is to play DVD/Blu-Ray with AVI/MKV support from external hard drives. How well does the Oppo handle AVI and MKV files from an external hard drive? Is it possible to use a powerless external hard drive or we have to use a powered external hard drive?
I have plenty of music concert material on MKV (none using True-HD, just FLAC tracks), and various TV shown in AVI. I need to know how Plug-In-Play is the Oppo. I was planning to get a Dune or a PCH but the Oppo is more right up my alley.

I have used a WD Passport drive that gets its power from the usb port and it works perfectly. The 103 has played most files I have thrown at it. AVI/MKV/MP4 with h264 divx mpeg2 etc. And some of the files that would not play on my Sony now play on my 103. The only issue is with files that have a resolution that does not match the aspect ratio. These are shown streched or chrunched. The aspect ratio is not respected, the resolution is taken as is. But these are rare. The Only files I have like that where done from a ripped DVD using handbrake with the setting for anamorphic set to loose. Its probably easily solve by using strict for this setting. I have had email exchanges with Oppo support and it seems unlikely that they will be able to fix this. We'll see. I will try to come up with handbrake settings that work well with the 103 and post them here.

A quick fix if a file displays with the wrong aspect ratio but you know it should be a full 16:9 screen: use the zoom uscan. Although it will leave a black rectangle all around, the aspect ratio will be ok. This does not work on panoramic wide screen movies 2.35:1 though.

BTW the 103 even plays the very old VCD format!
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post #2325 of 9196
11/20/12 at 1:49pm
Dish network boxes do not offer native, you have to manually select a fixed output resolution.
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post #2326 of 9196
11/20/12 at 1:52pm
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Originally Posted by BobearQSI View Post

. Even though the setting is nearby, it has nothing to do with "TV Type." That sets the HDMI output resolution which does not change no matter what channel, except for a few PPV movies that use 1080p instead.

You are correct. Thanks again.
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post #2327 of 9196
11/20/12 at 2:19pm
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Originally Posted by jboileau View Post

I got some neat surprise last night. I have had successfully setup SMB with my Windows 7 home PC over the week end and last night was playing some MP3's from that share through the 103. There where notifications for updates on my PC that demanded a reboot. Without realizing the implication I rebooted. When I heard the music stop I wondered why, yeah I know the brain was off last night. But the cool thing is that as soon as the PC had rebooted, my 103 reconnected on its own, picked up where it left off and started back the music. I think that's pretty cool.

That is cool.

Did it start from tghe beginning of the last track, or at the exact time where it was interrupted?
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post #2328 of 9196
11/20/12 at 2:28pm
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Originally Posted by Oubadah View Post

That is cool.
Did it start from tghe beginning of the last track, or at the exact time where it was interrupted?

Can't say unfortunately, I was not concentrating on the music.
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post #2329 of 9196
11/20/12 at 3:33pm
Actually, they do sell refurbished products and have for years. They just don't sell them that often and they are clearly labeled as such.
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post #2330 of 9196
11/20/12 at 3:34pm
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Originally Posted by mantaraydesign View Post

Do you think Oppo throw away all the returns in the garbage from customers? Think about it, you buy the 103 or the 105, you used the crap out of it and decided to return it.

They do not sell refurbish products.

There is nothing we can do to help you here. Contact OPPO and if you are unhappy with your purchase, return it and move on to a different product.

-Bill
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post #2331 of 9196
11/20/12 at 3:47pm
Hello everyone..I have been wanting a oppo player for a while..to replace my cheap Sony player..I will only use it for bluray playback just wanted some opinions on this player..the 103...my dealer has the 93 also..for the same price.
Just wanted to know about picture and sound quality--all my components are high end..parasound amps ,paradigm studio 60 speakers..Sony 52 led..only thing lacking is my Sony bluray player..its a 150$ special..lol..yea it sounds and looks good..but am I gonna be like..holy #%$+&..the sound @ picture is like wow?!!...I have HDMI cables that cost more than my current Sony..lol...also does oppo still throw in that test DVD?...picking it up soon before Xmas...was thinking about the marantz ud5007...but..I have heard to many good to things about oppo..thanks!
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post #2332 of 9196
11/20/12 at 4:32pm
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Originally Posted by jboileau View Post

I have used a WD Passport drive that gets its power from the usb port and it works perfectly. The 103 has played most files I have thrown at it. AVI/MKV/MP4 with h264 divx mpeg2 etc. And some of the files that would not play on my Sony now play on my 103. The only issue is with files that have a resolution that does not match the aspect ratio. These are shown streched or chrunched. The aspect ratio is not respected, the resolution is taken as is. But these are rare. The Only files I have like that where done from a ripped DVD using handbrake with the setting for anamorphic set to loose. Its probably easily solve by using strict for this setting. I have had email exchanges with Oppo support and it seems unlikely that they will be able to fix this. We'll see. I will try to come up with handbrake settings that work well with the 103 and post them here.
A quick fix if a file displays with the wrong aspect ratio but you know it should be a full 16:9 screen: use the zoom uscan. Although it will leave a black rectangle all around, the aspect ratio will be ok. This does not work on panoramic wide screen movies 2.35:1 though.
BTW the 103 even plays the very old VCD format!

Thank you for your reply. Except for maybe a few files it will be MKV just fine. Well that settles the deal then. I have a WD Passport external just like yours and I'm planning to use it on the Oppo to store all my video files of TV shows and such.

Of course if there's a problem Oppo Customer Support isn't too terrible.
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post #2333 of 9196
11/20/12 at 4:33pm
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by esh516 View Post

Hello everyone..I have been wanting a oppo player for a while..to replace my cheap Sony player..I will only use it for bluray playback just wanted some opinions on this player..the 103...my dealer has the 93 also..for the same price.
Just wanted to know about picture and sound quality--all my components are high end..parasound amps ,paradigm studio 60 speakers..Sony 52 led..only thing lacking is my Sony bluray player..its a 150$ special..lol..yea it sounds and looks good..but am I gonna be like..holy #%$+&..the sound @ picture is like wow?!!...I have HDMI cables that cost more than my current Sony..lol...also does oppo still throw in that test DVD?...picking it up soon before Xmas...was thinking about the marantz ud5007...but..I have heard to many good to things about oppo..thanks!

From a core disc performance standpoint there really is not much that can be done for Blu-ray playback. Unless the Sony is doing something terribly wrong, the picture and the audio will be identical.

For DVD-Video you may notice a nice increase in the accuracy of the de-interlacing and scaling, as the player will be more precise than the Sony.

The main advantages to the BDP-103 is that it has more features that your current Sony does not, such as the ability to playback FLAC and WAV audio formats, MKV and m2ts/ts video files, DLNA DMP/DMR and SMB network streaming, etc.
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post #2334 of 9196
11/20/12 at 4:42pm
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

From a core disc performance standpoint there really is not much that can be done for Blu-ray playback. Unless the Sony is doing something terribly wrong, the picture and the audio will be identical.
For DVD-Video you may notice a nice increase in the accuracy of the de-interlacing and scaling, as the player will be more precise than the Sony.
The main advantages to the BDP-103 is that it has more features that your current Sony does not, such as the ability to playback FLAC and WAV audio formats, MKV and m2ts/ts video files, DLNA DMP/DMR and SMB network streaming, etc.
Well I won't be using the oppo for nothing but bluray playback..that's it...sooo..what your saying is keep my ole Sony and not get the oppo?...that's odd! I was told the oppo would at least sound much better because of the DACs and high quality audio parts...my Sony is not doing nothing wrong I just want to upgrade...but what your saying is that....it will not be a upgrade?
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post #2335 of 9196
11/20/12 at 5:04pm
Just report the posts and make them go away.
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post #2336 of 9196
11/20/12 at 5:04pm
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Originally Posted by esh516 View Post

Well I won't be using the oppo for nothing but bluray playback..that's it...sooo..what your saying is keep my ole Sony and not get the oppo?...that's odd! I was told the oppo would at least sound much better because of the DACs and high quality audio parts...my Sony is not doing nothing wrong I just want to upgrade...but what your saying is that....it will not be a upgrade?
If you're only using HDMI connections, the DAC's in the Oppo will go unused. If you're only watching Blurays, the fact that the Oppo can play DVD-A's and SACD's is moot and you're just paying more for features you won't be using. Etc.
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post #2337 of 9196
11/20/12 at 5:22pm
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Originally Posted by ragamffn View Post

Does the BDP-103 output Netflix data streams in their supplied framerate? IOW will the player auto detect and display 1080P/24FPS streams?

In the current firmware, the native Netflix app outputs 1080p/24 streams as 1080p/60. I don't know what the chances are that will be changed, as getting any changes from Netflix is, umm, interesting.

Meanwhile, the Netflix app on the Roku Streaming Stick DOES output 1080p/24 streams as 1080p/24, and that is retained through the 103/105 and output on HDMI that way as well.

That said, I'd still recommend you stick with the native apps. The video quality is better, despite not getting /24 output.
--Bob
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post #2338 of 9196
11/20/12 at 5:59pm
New Public Beta firmware is about to hit. BE SURE TO READ THE RELEASE NOTES FIRST.
--Bob
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post #2339 of 9196
11/20/12 at 6:09pm
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Release date: November 20, 2012
Category: Latest Public Beta Release
Main Version: BDP10X-37-1114B
Loader Version: 6U0900 (BDP-103), 7B0600 (BDP-105)
Sub Version: MCU103-05-0916 (BDP-103), MCU105-04-1113 (BDP-105)

1. Added support for "Rhapsody" online music and "CinemaNow" movie/TV streaming services.
2. Added the "Blank HDMI 2" option in the Setup Menu -> Video Setup -> 3D Setting. This allows the player to force HDMI 2 to output a 2D blank screen when HDMI 1 outputs 3D video. Some customers reported that during 3D movie playback, when HDMI 1 was connected to a 3D display and HDMI 2 was connected to a non-3D receiver which in turn is connected to the same 3D display, there was no audio coming from the receiver. This issue has been resolved.
3. Resolved the incorrect aspect ratio (AR) during some user-created media. In the previous firmware the player may have unnecessarily pillarboxed or stretched the video of some user-created media files. This issue has been resolved.
4. Resolved an incompatibility with older Digital Coaxial or Optical receivers where streaming services (such as Netflix, YouTube) produced no audio.
5. Improved the user experience in the HOME menu and the Media Center (Photo, Music, or Movie) e.g., Added Thumbnail View mode for Movie and Music, and the customer can press RED COLOR button to quickly switch between File List mode and Thumbnail View mode.
6. Added "Sleep Timer" option in the Setup Menu -> Device Setup. This allows the player to turn itself off after a specific amount of time.
7. Added support for converting Side-by-Side and Top-Bottom formatted MKV into 3D. During the playback of a compatible MKV, press the 3D button on the remote once to turn on the "2D->3D" conversion then press the 3D button again to display the "3D Setting" menu. Select "Side-by-Side" or "Top-Bottom" to match the source to convert the image to 3D.
8. Added "CD Program Play" function for CD/SACD playback. During the disc playback, press the YELLOW COLOR button to bring the “Program Play” interface. Here you can use the LEFT/RIGHT ARROW button to set a desired playlist.
9. General disc compatibility improvement based on recent and upcoming Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted disc samples.

Special notices:
a) In order to facilitate the user experience improvement in media navigation (item 6 above), the player will create an "OPPO_Media_Info" folder on the connected USB storage device and store media information there. You may find this folder on USB flash drives or external hard drives after using those on the OPPO player. Please do not delete the folder and its files.
b) SD DVD de-interlacing performance is not as good as that of the official firmware release BDP10X-33-1018. If you watch DVD often, we recommend that you skip this beta test version and wait for the next official release, which will fix this problem.
c) You can revert back to the previous Official release via a USB thumb drive.
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post #2340 of 9196
11/20/12 at 6:20pm
A few notes on the 1114B Public Beta firmware.

1) Audio / video sync for shiny disc playback is improved, but still not "fixed". The maximum error is about 1/2 what it was with the Official 1018 firmware, and there are more cases where the sync is actually CORRECT. Audio / video sync error for the digital audio inputs is unchanged from the Official 1018 firmware. OPPO Engineering is continuing to work on all this, so stay tuned.

2) The comment regarding poorer SD-DVD video quality is real. Obviously, this will get fixed. OPPO wanted to get the other changes out for additional public comment while they are addressing this.

3) Note that you CAN roll back to the Official 1018 firmware. Moving between the current Official firmware and the current Public Beta firmware -- in either direction -- must be done using either the USB or burned-disc install methods. Network install is not available to prevent people accidentally installing a Beta without realizing what it is.

4) The "Blank HDMI 2" setting option is intended to work around the bug in certain popular, non-3D capable AVRs when using dual HDMI cabling to get 3D direct to the display. (Denon, I'm looking at you!)

--Bob
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