Official OPPO BDP-103 Owner's Thread - Page 88

Oppo DVD/BluRay video quality better than a Sony PS3?

I currently use a Sony PS3 in my HT set up to view BluRays and DVDs (and some gaming). The PS3 is about 3~4 years old now, but starting to suffer from occasional video drop outs. I've been nothing but happy with the PS3's performance to date.

I am considering upgrading my old PS3 with a Oppo player. Since its sole purpose is for video viewing, I was considering picking up a used Oppo BDP-93 or the new/current BDP-103 model for $499. I have no interest in 3D. I also have a mac mini set up that I can use as well when needed.

From my limited research, the BDP-103 incorporates Marvell's Kyoto-G2H video processor with the latest generation Qdeo™ technology

Can someone with real world experience comment on if the Oppo "video display quality" would be significantly better than a PS3?

For context, I currently run the PS3 HDMI cable direct to my Panny Plasma monitor input. I also have an Integra 9.8 Preamp/Processor for the audio side of things.

Thanks
Kenreau

Moderators - please feel free to move this thread if more suitable elsewhere. I struggled with where best to place it.

So..source direct off on the oppo and all video processing turned off on my avr..that way all video processing will be done by the oppo"s superior processing and sent thru the avr bypassing its video straight to my Sony..I just want to make sure I'm getting the best possible picture I can ..thank you

Correct.

-Bill

Same issue with different HDMI cable and even after resetting it to factory defaults and switching off 24p, deep color. Same jitters and streaks issue on both the HDMI outputs when the output resolution is set to 1080P. The problem is not there anymore when I change the resolution to any resolution other than 1080p.

Just spoke with Oppo customer support. He said there was another customer with similar issue with a particular Costco Samsung tv model. My tv model is Samsung UN60ES71000 which is not Costco model, I bought it from Amazon. He said, it is a problem with TV and even the replacement unit will have the same issue with this tv.

Thank you bill!

I ordered an OPPO 103 from AMAZON tonight and am very curios how it will perform with my VSX-1121. It will be here thursday.

I just bought my BDP-103 over the weekend. I've been a previous Oppo owner and have been satisfied, but I have to say I'm disappointed with the BDP-103. Not with the specs, or the performance, but but with the player's issues that should have been worked out prior to release.

My receiver is a Yamaha RX-V673, and I'm having the audio sync issues many people are mentioning. Audio delay for 2D blu-rays is about 30ms but it seems to be worse with 3D movies - for those I have the delay cranked to 350ms. Having to constantly switch back between sync settings for 2D and 3D movies is a pain.

Also, and I don't know if anyone else mentioned it, but I'm experiencing handshake issues with Bitstream audio as well. I have to switch input and back again after the movie starts playing in order to receive audio - otherwise no channels are sent to the receiver, and the receiver displays no speaker configuration.

For a $500 blu-ray player, I expect more. Granted the performance is better than most players out there, but what good is the performance if I have to constantly struggle to get it to work? I don't have these problems with players that are 1/5 of the cost.

Sure... but there are other ways of preventing this including turning off the IR emitter in the RF remote. One doesn't have to just disable it; at least make it a setup option - it removes some flexibility that could be useful.

Ah well it's a pretty small point. Over-all it's a glorious piece of gear.

Ok, so I've scrolled through tons of pages and I can't find an answer to this. I have a Harmony One remote and I can't for the life of me figure out how to create an activity where it changes the input for the Oppo. I need it to change the inputs for certain activities and there is no option to change that. Please help!!!

 

Bill:

 

The poster indicated he wanted to use the Qdeo video processing inside the Oppo. Setting the Oppo to "Source Direct" as you've suggested will completely bypass the Qdeo processing, the opposite of what he wanted. Setting the Oppo to a fixed output resolution will engage the video processor. Am i missing something.

 

- David

He says "source direct off".

-Bill

Ok, I'm not sure what to think of this unit so far. First off, my front HDMI does not work. I've tried multiple things and it just screws the Oppo up whenever I go to that input. Second, I get a lot of flickering. I think it may be a handshake problem between the oppo and my receiver but it's pretty annoying to have to reboot the oppo and the receiver to get it to stop. I can't for the life of me figure out how to find this "source direct" for the audio and video. So far I'm not having a good experience.

I have a Harmony One and am having no issues. What exactly are you trying to do?

If Harmony does not have the Oppo in its database yet (my Harmony is still set to my 83), I would assume you can manually set it up using the Logitech Harmony Remote Software. Have you attempted doing so yet by using the Oppo remote to "teach" it?

Maybe I got a faulty unit but this is unbearable. Nothing works right

Have you contacted Oppo its been my experience that they have the best customer support in the business.

Does the Media Control Android app work with the 103 or is it only compatible with BDP-93 for now?

Nevermind, just read this note at the bottom of that page: BDP-10x users should download the "OPPO Remote Control" app instead.

I should have posted this long ago.

My judder and line noise problem wasn't with the BDP-103 at all but with my Samsung UN60ES7100 TV. Seems the ES6500 - ES7100/7150 series TVs have a problem with 1080p/60 input on any HDMI input when the SyncPlus app in the Smart Hub is installed and enabled (it can be removed or disabled). There is a lot of discussion about this in the "Official Samsung UNXXES7100 Thread" forum here on AvsForum. If you have a recent model Samsung TV start there.

I suppose it's only a matter of time that Android media control software for the BDP-103 will be ready.

New, "Audioholics Live", YouTube Review of the BDP-103

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R6OETqDZ0U


--Bob

This sort of report is EXTRAORDINARILY HELPFUL! Thanks for posting this.
--Bob

Check to make sure the Input button on the OPPO remote is known in your Harmony "device" definition for the BDP-103. If it's not there already, have the Harmony "learn" it.

Then you can change between Inputs on the BDP-103 by having the Harmony send the Input button followed by a digit -- the line number in the Input pop-up menu for the Input you wish to select. For example, "Input"-"1" will always select the "Blu-ray Player" Input -- i.e., normal player operation.

Obviously you could just add these two commands to each Activity yourself, but I believe we've already had reports here from folks that have set up their Harmony to do real Input Selection for the BDP-103 using the method where one button is sent to initiate the operation (Input in this case) and another button is sent to complete the operation (the digit in this case). The nice thing about that is that you can also set the Harmony to add an Input Selection Delay after sending that so that the player has a chance to get its act together after an Input change and before anything else gets sent to it.

Done that way, you would create a list of named Inputs, each of which is set up to send the Input button followed by the appropriate numeric button. Then in your Activity, you would set it up to change the 103 to one of your named Inputs.

If you need further help configuring your Harmony, there's a whole Forum here at AVS devoted to programmable remotes where the Harmony experts hang out. All you need do is tell them about the Input plus digit trick to actually accomplish the Input selection, and they'll be able to walk you through the rest.
--Bob

Please see this post that was made this evening:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1432162/official-oppo-bdp-103-owners-thread/2610#post_22634913

Although your Samsung display is outside the model range mentioned in the post, it may very well have a similar problem.

Try setting the OPPO to send 1080i to the display instead of 1080p. Also set whatever you are connecting to the HDMI Inputs of the OPPO to 1080i (just for testing purposes).

If that works, but 1080p does not, check the owner's thread for your Samsung display to see if it suffers from the same problem mentioned in the linked post.

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Now the first thing to do is make sure the HDMI *OUTPUT* of the OPPO is working well with your display. If that's not working right, then adding the additional complexity of the HDMI Inputs on the OPPO will of course just confuse things further.

Test the HDMI Output of the OPPO using shiny discs (Blu-ray or SD-DVD).

If you are having problems getting good video to your display for those, then focus on fixing that FIRST before you try anything more with the Front HDMI Input.

Give OPPO Tech Support a call with details of how you have things cabled up, and they can walk you through sorting out what's happening. It is unlikely you actually have a faulty OPPO, but if you do, that will become clear pretty fast and they'll take care of it.

Second, you posted above what sounded like a fairly complicated plan for hooking things up. I don't recall the details of what you were trying to do, but WHENEVER you run into connection problems, the first thing to do is SIMPLIFY what you've got hooked up. So first make sure the player is working with your TV and Receiver just as a disc player. Use the simplest set of cabling for that. Only after you know that works should you go back and start adding in the other connections you would like to get working -- one at a time.

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By the way, the "Source Direct" you were asking about is a Resolution choice in the OPPO. Select it in the Resolution setting in the Setup menu or by pressing the Resolution button on the Remote and scrolling to the bottom of the list.

GIVEN YOUR CURRENT VIDEO CONNECTION ISSUES I STRONGLY RECOMMEND YOU DO NOT USE "Source Direct" FROM THE OPPO! Instead, set an explicit video output Resolution such as 1080i or 1080p. After you've got things working properly, if you THEN want to go back and experiment with Source Direct output from the OPPO you can do so.

You may also be confusing this with "native" output that has been discussed here with respect to cable and satellite TV boxes -- getting the set top box to automatically output the same video Resolution as is coming in on whatever channel you are currently watching. Each such box will have its own way of selecting that. If THAT is what you are looking for then we'll need to know what model of cable/satellite box you are using. Or check the owner's thread here at AVS for that model of box.
--Bob
Edited by Bob Pariseau - 11/28/12 at 1:31am

You can likely get rid of the handshake issues by using both HDMI outs if you aren't already.

I have found that this works for everything but the "Options" button. I can't get my Harmony to learn this command. I have tried several times.

The Oppo 93 will play mkv files with DTS or DD soundtracks but will not handle DTS-HD MA or TrueHD soundtracks and it ignores Cinavia now and into the future.

As I understand it, the Oppo 103 will play mkv files with DTS-HD MA or TrueHD soundtracks with the latest firmware and whilst it did ignore Cinavia for mkv files, that can't be guaranteed in future.

If being able to ignore Cinavia is your main concern and your mkv files only have plain DTS and DD soundtracks, then the Oppo 93 is the more compatible option. However, most media players will play those same mkv files: the benefit you get from the Oppo is better scaling and possibly more accurate colour output, plus 3D capability and one of the best disc players around with support to match.

This is an equipment-specific question:

I am upgrading my home theater to an AE8000 projector, Onkyo 818 AVR and Oppo 103 BD player.

Both the 818 and 103 claim to have excellent video upscaling, so my question is which one should
I use ... the Oppo or the AVR?

I appreciate any suggestions.

This may not be the best place to post this question, so I am posting in the Onkyo 818 thread as well.

Use whichever one you like better but there is no need to use both. My receiver (Yamaha A2010) uses the same video processor as the 818 (HQV Vida 1900) and it does an excellent job. One caveat: not all OEMs do an excellent job with the firmware on their specific device so you'll want to look at the Onkyo sub-forum for any specific issues and to verify that the HQV is properly implemented. And just like Blu Ray players you'll also want to verify that the AVR has been updated to the latest firmware.

If you like the AVR's performance set the Oppo to "source direct" or alternately set the AVR to "pass through" or whatever Onkyo calls it (if it's an option) and let the Oppo work its magic.

FWIW, I was using the processor in the AVR with my Oppo BPD-93 but with the improved performance of the 103, and particularly improved de-interlacing performance, I'm back to using the Oppo.

YMMV.

Jitters and streaks issue was to do with Sync Plus feature on Samsung TV. This problem was reported in other Samsung forums as well. I don't have this issue any more after turning off sync plus feature on my Samsung TV.

oppo bdp-103

From what I have been reading is that the DAC in the oppo 103 is better that most receivers (ie AV7005, Denon 3313,Rotel 1572) or am I just misunderstanding.