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post #2821 of 16401
Does anyone know how to fix the lip sync issue? it happens on a few DVDs and the rest look ok?
post #2822 of 16401
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Setting LPCM for Optical/Coax output limits the Optical / Coax output to 2.0 (not 2.1) -- a "Stereo" down-mix. The specific "Down Mix" setting you found has no effect on Optical / Coax. It only applies to the multi-channel Analog outputs.
As for AAC input not working into your Zvox, send OPPO Tech Support an email with the details. OPPO was working on converting AAC to a more standard format on Optical/Coax for the YouTube app and that may also apply to your case. I've lost track, but that feature may already be part of the 1114B Public Beta firmware for the 103.
--Bob

I sent Oppo an email with details. I am already running the latest Beta firmware. Now that I remember about beta upgrade, AAC was working before I upgrade to Beta though I am not 100% sure. If I don't hear from them soon, I will try to downgrade back to released version for firmware and try to confirm. Thanks.
post #2823 of 16401
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

I really don't know, but to the extent I've been able to follow those discussions, it seems to be a result that has been stuck on all the Kuro models. For the details, one would have to go dive into the Kuro threads of course.
Anyway, the bottom line here is to trust the calibration charts and the evidence of your own eyes. Sets do vary.
--Bob

Thanks for all your input I will try the other settings to see if I notice any slight differences at least I can't mess up the isf settings as they're fixed by the calibrator !!! A bonus when you have a 2 yr old with a taste for remotes!
post #2824 of 16401
well i just phoned Oppo and told them about the lip sync issue and they were aware of the issues and were working on it and ask for my e/m address to send me the download for a fix firmware upgrade so Im waiting on the e/m...


ok here is the e/m:
Please download and install the latest firmware release: http://download.oppodigital.com/BDP0103/BDP10X-38-1205B_SYNC/BDP10X.bin

To install the firmware simply transfer the BIN file to any FAT16 or FAT32 formatted thumbdrive. Put the thumbdrive into the payer then follow the on screen prompts to upgrade your player's firmware.

Best Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.
2629B Terminal Blvd.
Mountain View, CA 94043
Service@oppodigital.com
Tel: 650-961-1118
Fax: 650-961-1119
post #2825 of 16401
^ Folks, this is not a released Public Beta firmware yet. If you install it, please understand that you may need to roll back to earlier firmware (either the current Official firmware, or the current, released Public Beta) if you encounter problems.

OPPO sometimes makes pre-release versions available to individual users to validate specific fixes.
--Bob
post #2826 of 16401
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ Folks, this is not a released Public Beta firmware yet. If you install it, please understand that you may need to roll back to earlier firmware (either the current Official firmware, or the current, released Public Beta) if you encounter problems.
OPPO sometimes makes pre-release versions available to individual users to validate specific fixes.
--Bob

well it totally fixed my issue just checked it . : )
post #2827 of 16401
^ Great! Let OPPO tech support know as well.
--Bob
post #2828 of 16401
i already did! smile.gif
post #2829 of 16401
hi all just got my bdp103 and from reading thru thread the best way to connect is hdmi1 to avr and hdmi2 to tv right?
I was also reading that analog audio might be good too is my receiver capable of this or will this setup not make a huge difference?
my avr is a onkyo nr709
post #2830 of 16401
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Originally Posted by extrafuzzyllama View Post

hi all just got my bdp103 and from reading thru thread the best way to connect is hdmi1 to avr and hdmi2 to tv right?
I was also reading that analog audio might be good too is my receiver capable of this or will this setup not make a huge difference?
my avr is a onkyo nr709

I think you have it backwards, HDMI 1 to the TV and HDMI 2 to the receiver.
post #2831 of 16401
OPPO BDP-103 3D Blu-ray Disc Player Review - hdtvtest.co.uk
By David Mackenzie • 5 December 2012 • Verdict: Reference Level
post #2832 of 16401
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Originally Posted by danjw1 View Post

I think you have it backwards, HDMI 1 to the TV and HDMI 2 to the receiver.

ok thanks I will have to remember that during setup.
post #2833 of 16401
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Originally Posted by widerscreen View Post

well it totally fixed my issue just checked it . : )

Oppo customer service strikes again!
post #2834 of 16401
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Originally Posted by Dickeymint View Post

Thanks for all your input I will try the other settings to see if I notice any slight differences at least I can't mess up the isf settings as they're fixed by the calibrator !!! A bonus when you have a 2 yr old with a taste for remotes!

For a test set the color space on the OPPO and the Kuro to auto. Then go into the menu on the Kuro and change the color to see which one displays correctly. My OPPO BDP 83 outputs 4:4:4 which is color 2 on the Kuro. The problem I run into is my Pace RNG 200 cable box outputs RGB video 16-235, which is color 3 on the Kuro, and the on screen display for my Onkyo 606 reciever is 4:2:2, which is color 1 on the Kuro.
I was told by some one at Pace that the RNG 200 automatically senses the displays capabilities when hooked up by HDMI. The Pace uses this information and sets its output to the displays capabilities. There is no way to change these settings in the Pace. If this information is correct then the Kuro natively likes RGB Video 16-235. Based on this information and what Bob discovered with Ratatouille, I have my Kuro set to color 3 which is RGB Video 16-235. I only change this if I have to change a setting on my Onkyo.
For reference I have two 5010 8G Kuros. If your OPPO is natively outputting 4:4:4, then this maybe the reason your calibrator choose that video output.
post #2835 of 16401
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Originally Posted by darkphader View Post

[Playing FLAC file sounding better than playing the disc] shouldn't be the case with any modern quality transport that reliably buffers the data at high speed thereby eliminating rotational and pit jitter.

You're right. It shouldn't be the case. But it is. The one disc transport I've experienced that read the entire disc into internal memory and played the music from internal memory after shutting-down the entire drive system is the only "disc transport-based playback" I've encountered that sounds as good as playing FLAC, ALAC, WAV, or AIFF files with a computer. I can't explain why it happens... something about the noise created by the motor servo, focus servo, tracking servo? Hard to say. The Mac Mini I use for music playback sounds better when you replace the internal hard disk with a solid state drive... that should be impossible too. And 8GB of RAM sounds better than 4GB of RAM which should also be impossible since, even memory playback modes typically don't load more than a few tracks into memory at a time. What's also odd is that having a FireWire drive connected to the FireWire port makes music sound slightly better even if the hard drive is not being accessed (my music library is on a FireWire hard disk... the playback software loads a few tracks at a time into memory for playback so I can put 2 tracks in the playlist, then disconnect the FireWire hard disk so the same to 2 tracks can be heard with and without the FireWire connection.

There are things about music playback that are just plain not what you expect. You can send a music file around the globe thousands of times, 100s of thousands of times even. And you'll always have the same data. But when you go to play those music files, everything and anything that alters timing of the bits during the conversion from digital to analog becomes audible... PLAYING music is always analog even if the music is in digital format because of the element of TIME. The effects of time (in the 100s of picoseconds range and higher) on the analog audio derived from digital data is now measurable and has been proven mathematically (in the 1990s by Prof Malcolm Omar Hawksford). In fact, much of the improvement in the sound of digital music between the mid-1980s and now has come from eliminating sources of timing errors (and the use of higher sample rate and more bits) in the entire chain from recording to mastering to pressing to playback. If digital audio was so predictably perfect, there'd be no difference between the sound of a 1984 disc player and a 1984 disc versus a 2012 disc player and a 2012 remaster of the same music... but there is a difference, a very significant difference. And using a computer or other device to play ripped files further extends the difference.

But all this has to be in perspective... you have to be a careful listener to hear the difference. If you use music as wallpaper for life, it's really just background noise and you're not REALLY listening carefully. But if you sit in a darkened room listening to music with no distractions and you focus on the sound of each instrument, each voice, the large (or small) amount of space the recording seems to create in the room, how far back you can hear into the space, etc... that's when you begin to pick-up the sort of differences I'm talking about...the differences aren't like the difference between "5" and "10"... it's more like the difference between 9.0 and 9.1. But there could be several things contributing to differences larger than 0.1. If playing a disc in a convention disc player produces sound quality of 9.0... when I play a FLAC file from the same disc using my computer playback system, the sound quality is probably somewhere in the 9.1 to 9.2 range. This is not something you'd notice just walking into the room "cold" while music was playing. But if you KNOW the sound of your system from hundreds of hours of listening to music, then you move up to 9.1 or 9.2 sound quality, you CAN hear it... though comparisons with the previous level of sound quality definitely helps. If you have no way of going backwards for comparisons, the difference gets difficult to quantify. It's a large enough difference to not be microscopic, but it's not a big obvious thing either.
post #2836 of 16401
Nicely boxed:




Interesting tote bag that it came in.



can ya dig it?
post #2837 of 16401
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Originally Posted by widerscreen View Post

well i just phoned Oppo and told them about the lip sync issue and they were aware of the issues and were working on it and ask for my e/m address to send me the download for a fix firmware upgrade so Im waiting on the e/m...
ok here is the e/m:
Please download and install the latest firmware release: http://download.oppodigital.com/BDP0103/BDP10X-38-1205B_SYNC/BDP10X.bin
To install the firmware simply transfer the BIN file to any FAT16 or FAT32 formatted thumbdrive. Put the thumbdrive into the payer then follow the on screen prompts to upgrade your player's firmware.

I'm pretty motivated to get my 105 and 103 working as preamps so I applied this firmware to my 1-5 and it has pretty much eliminated the audio lag from my Motorola Cable box connected via HDMI input 1 on the back of the 105.

Going to try it on the 103 now.

I let Oppo support know my success (not fully tested at all - it could have caused other issues I guess that I have not run into yet).
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post #2839 of 16401
So happy. I just hooked it up and connected to Youtube wirelessly. Great connection too biggrin.gif
post #2840 of 16401
Hell all..I am picking up a 103 and have been reading that I could run my dish network sat rec. Thru the oppo to get a much better picture..will this work? All my connections will be HDMI and also will this work using my harmony one remote?....thanks for any input...the oppo goes HDMI into pre-amp.then HDMI to Sony monitor
post #2841 of 16401
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Originally Posted by esh516 View Post

Hell all..I am picking up a 103 and have been reading that I could run my dish network sat rec. Thru the oppo to get a much better picture..will this work? All my connections will be HDMI and also will this work using my harmony one remote?....thanks for any input...the oppo goes HDMI into pre-amp.then HDMI to Sony monitor

I can tell my experience with Directv. For me, I have not noticed much difference. Directv receivers give option of just sending native video out. I think dish doesn't support it. So I don't expect any improvements. Also 3D is not supported through HDMI in the back. So I disabled it. Your result might vary.
post #2842 of 16401
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Originally Posted by msr999 View Post

I sent Oppo an email with details. I am already running the latest Beta firmware. Now that I remember about beta upgrade, AAC was working before I upgrade to Beta though I am not 100% sure. If I don't hear from them soon, I will try to downgrade back to released version for firmware and try to confirm. Thanks.

Here is the reply I got from Oppo when I asked about converting AAC to a standard format that can be passed through coaxial/optical out.


"This is true for YouTube and Netflix where they are sending AAC through the application and we can then tell the player to convert to LPCM automatically, but also true is that this conversion is stereo only. For multi-channel audio we are getting Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Plus, or AC3.

There is no mechanism in the player to convert AAC multi-channel into Dolby Digital or other multi-channel analog that can be passed over optical or coaxial. We can only use PCM, which is stereo only.

The firmware which fixes the AAC issue for Netflix and YouTube can be downloaded here: http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-103/BDP103-firmware-37-1114B.aspx"

Great customer support
post #2843 of 16401
Harmony One works fine (mine is set for my 83, I didn't need to change anything for my uses- your milage may vary) with the 103.
post #2844 of 16401
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Originally Posted by 117olddude View Post

Harmony One works fine (mine is set for my 83, I didn't need to change anything for my uses- your milage may vary) with the 103.

my new harmony touch works great with the 93.

Jacob
post #2845 of 16401
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Originally Posted by Jacob305 View Post

my new harmony touch works great with the 93.
Jacob


What did you have before the touch?
post #2846 of 16401
Super happy for a while now with my 103...with 3D, bluray, and hdmi input with directv, flip hd cam. Etc etc. I would like to expand my horizons a little and start playing some flac files and hear what I've been missing. Can anyone suggest some good sites to get some files? I listen mostly to rock/metal. Can I just download these files to a USB drive and then plug into my 103 and rock out?
post #2847 of 16401
Warning to those who are not aware (I wasn't), you must return to a non-beta firmware when reverting. I gave a spin to the new firmware through the link posted here today, 1205B, to check it out but reverting to 1114B was not possible. Argh, I got a little panic attack eek.gif, but reverting to 1018 worked and then I got back to 1114B. smile.gif

Incidently 1205B has a problem for me. My Windows 7 machine is not listed the same way as before for SMB shares. In 1114B I see the network icon with the name of my computer and my shares work great. In 1205B I see a network icon with the workgoup name of my PC instead of the PC's name and I can't access my files. Hopefully this is temporary to this beta...
post #2848 of 16401
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Originally Posted by mattr6 View Post

Super happy for a while now with my 103...with 3D, bluray, and hdmi input with directv, flip hd cam. Etc etc. I would like to expand my horizons a little and start playing some flac files and hear what I've been missing. Can anyone suggest some good sites to get some files? I listen mostly to rock/metal. Can I just download these files to a USB drive and then plug into my 103 and rock out?

If you have CD's you would like to experiment with, there are many free PC utilities to convert them to FLAC. One example is Exact Audio Copy, but there are others.
post #2849 of 16401
As one who dreams of someday owning this ultimate Blu Ray (and much more) player, the only site I know of where you can get some files is https://www.hdtracks.com/index.php As far as how to play them on your BDP-103,I'll have to let someone else answer that one.rolleyes.gif
post #2850 of 16401
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Originally Posted by Brian-HD View Post

What did you have before the touch?

I had the 720. that also worked fine with the oppo 93.

Jacob
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