or Connect
AVS › AVS Forum › Blu-ray & HD DVD › Blu-ray Players ›  Official OPPO BDP-103 Owner's Thread
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Official OPPO BDP-103 Owner's Thread - Page 99

post #2941 of 16361
Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesgoodchild View Post

Try the latest beta firmware. The previous beta firmware addressed this issue but introduced a new problem with dvd playback. Both should be working now in the current November 6 beta. Link is on front page of this thread. I'm assuming that you have a north American oppo.

I did the update first before I played anything. Yes I have the North american OPPO
post #2942 of 16361
Quote:
Originally Posted by chris6878 View Post

Hooked my oppo up tonight. Followed directions and did split hdmi to play through my tv and my pio vsx 92-thx.
First i played a few SACDs and DVD audios. It played flawless. Then I decided to try some 3d blu rays. They load no prob. They play on my tv in 3d perfectly. Only problem is I get no sound from the avr.

I put the 2d version onf the blu ray in and it played perfect audio included. I Check two 3d blu rays and neither would play audio.

On the PIO, my TV is plugged into the HDMI output jack coming from the AVR. I decided to unplug the HDMI out jack from the AVR while playing the 3d br and guess what happens......I get audio!

So my problem is only 3d br will not play audio through the AVR if the tv is plugged into the output HDMI port from the AVR.

Anyone got any ideas why? I really dont wanna have to unplug the HDMI out every time I watch a 3d br.

Any help is appreciated.

Video Setup -> 3D Setting has a "Blank HDMI2" option in recent firmware. See if setting that to "Yes" makes a difference.

-Bill
post #2943 of 16361
Hello All,

I am having an audio problem when raising and lowering the volume on my AV receiver when using the BDP-103. The best way I can describe it is when I'm doing anything with the BDP-103 i.e playing a bluray, streaming through Netflix or Vudu, I hear static or a crackling sound coming from my speakers and only when I am raising or lowering the volume. I do not hear this sound when the volume is at a constant level.

FYI, I have several other devices plugged into my AV receiver i.e. Xfinity cable stb, Directv dvr, AppleTv, PS3 and HTPC, and I don't have this issue when using these divices, it's only when using the BDP-103.

I talked to Oppo tech suppot and they told me to try a different input on my AV receiver but I get the same results. We also thought that it may be coming from my IR receiver which I have located right next to the BDP-103 but I took that out of play completely and used the Oppo remote directly to the unit and still have the same problem. Note: I don't know if this would be a factor but I thought I would put it out there; I have my PS3 located directly on top of the BDP-103. I do experience the problem whether the PS3 is turned on or off. I also tried changing the HDMI cable I have connecting the BDP-103 to the Denon receiver and that did not help either.

Has anyone experienced a similar problem with this device? If so, what did you do to fix? If not, any ideas on what I can do to troubleshoot further? Or do I have a defective BDP-103?

My equipment: (All devices connected via HDMI to the inputs on my AV receiver with one HDMI cable to my epson projector)

Denon AVR-3313ci
Oppo BDP-103 (have latest official release of firmware 1018)
Epson 5020UB
PS3 Slim
Xfinity DVR
Directv DVR
AppleTV
Dell HTPC

Any advice or insight will be greatly appreciated!!

Thanks in advance for your help!!
post #2944 of 16361
Quote:
Originally Posted by postcorner View Post

Hello All,
I am having an audio problem when raising and lowering the volume on my AV receiver when using the BDP-103. The best way I can describe it is when I'm doing anything with the BDP-103 i.e playing a bluray, streaming through Netflix or Vudu, I hear static or a crackling sound coming from my speakers and only when I am raising or lowering the volume. I do not hear this sound when the volume is at a constant level.
FYI, I have several other devices plugged into my AV receiver i.e. Xfinity cable stb, Directv dvr, AppleTv, PS3 and HTPC, and I don't have this issue when using these divices, it's only when using the BDP-103.
I talked to Oppo tech suppot and they told me to try a different input on my AV receiver but I get the same results. We also thought that it may be coming from my IR receiver which I have located right next to the BDP-103 but I took that out of play completely and used the Oppo remote directly to the unit and still have the same problem. Note: I don't know if this would be a factor but I thought I would put it out there; I have my PS3 located directly on top of the BDP-103. I do experience the problem whether the PS3 is turned on or off. I also tried changing the HDMI cable I have connecting the BDP-103 to the Denon receiver and that did not help either.
Has anyone experienced a similar problem with this device? If so, what did you do to fix? If not, any ideas on what I can do to troubleshoot further? Or do I have a defective BDP-103?
My equipment: (All devices connected via HDMI to the inputs on my AV receiver with one HDMI cable to my epson projector)
Denon AVR-3313ci
Oppo BDP-103 (have latest official release of firmware 1018)
Epson 5020UB
PS3 Slim
Xfinity DVR
Directv DVR
AppleTV
Dell HTPC
Any advice or insight will be greatly appreciated!!
Thanks in advance for your help!!

Your issue is best addressed in the appropriate thread for the Denon, since that's where the issue lies.
post #2945 of 16361
Quote:
Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

Your issue is best addressed in the appropriate thread for the Denon, since that's where the issue lies.

Thanks for the response! I'm not so sure that the issue lies with the Denon since no other device I have connected to it produces this problem, only the Oppo! I feel it is an issue with the Oppo. Is there anything at all that I can try?
post #2946 of 16361
Quote:
Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Video Setup -> 3D Setting has a "Blank HDMI2" option in recent firmware. See if setting that to "Yes" makes a difference.
-Bill

I checked to make sure i have the latest firmware and I do.
I looked in my 3d setting and I dont have the option for Blank hdmi2. I only have "2d-3d depth" and "3d tv size" options.
post #2947 of 16361
Quote:
Originally Posted by chris6878 View Post

I checked to make sure i have the latest firmware and I do.
I looked in my 3d setting and I dont have the option for Blank hdmi2. I only have "2d-3d depth" and "3d tv size" options.

Same issue here too.
post #2948 of 16361
Quote:
Originally Posted by postcorner View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

Your issue is best addressed in the appropriate thread for the Denon, since that's where the issue lies.

Thanks for the response! I'm not so sure that the issue lies with the Denon since no other device I have connected to it produces this problem, only the Oppo! I feel it is an issue with the Oppo. Is there anything at all that I can try?

If you are using HDMI for audio from the OPPO there's literally nothing the OPPO can be doing wrong that would produce the symptoms you are describing (noise that happens only WHILE changing the Volume setting on your AVR). The OPPO has no way of knowing when you are in the act of changing the Volume setting on the AVR. It sends the identical HDMI audio before, during, and after that Volume change in the AVR.

The most likely reason you are not hearing it from other devices is that they are not sending the same audio format to your AVR. Evidently your AVR is having trouble properly handling the audio during Volume transitions for some audio input formats. That would be an AVR problem.

Try this: Change the HDMI Audio setting in the OPPO between LPCM and Bitstream and see if you are getting the problem both ways. Note that content which is already LPCM (e.g., CDs) will still be output as LPCM even if Bitstream is set.

Also keep track of the type of tracks your are playing when the problem occurs. For example, if they are 7.1 tracks it is quite possible you've not been playing 7.1 tracks from your other Sources. Of if they are high bit rate tracks (higher than 48KHz), it may very well be the other Sources are not sending any of those. Or if the audio track is 24-bit, it is possible your other Sources are only ever sending 16-bit. If you spot a pattern, you can try to nail down precisely what input formats your AVR is having trouble with. For example, play a CD with HDCD Decoding OFF and DTS Neo:6 Mode OFF. That will be 16 bit stereo LPCM. For higher bit rate tracks, the test tracis on AIX Audio Calibration, Blu-ray, may be a good set of tests.

While playing audio that causes the problem, press Info on the OPPO to bring up its on-screen Info display. Then press Page Up or Page Down to toggle the information displayed. The bottom line of info will now show what the OPPO is sending out as OUTPUT on the HDMI outputs.

Check in the owner's thread for your AVR as others may have experienced this problem. There may even be a firmware update related to it, particularly if you can nail down the problem to audio input of a particular type.

Some AVRs also have horsepower limitations of one form or another. For example they might be on the edge of not being fast enough if you have Room Correction turned on -- particularly for higher rate audio input formats. This can show up in various ways. I wouldn't expect noise during Volume changes to be one of them, but it's worth a look if you can't find a firmware fix.
--Bob
post #2949 of 16361
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian-HD View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by chris6878 View Post

I checked to make sure i have the latest firmware and I do.
I looked in my 3d setting and I dont have the option for Blank hdmi2. I only have "2d-3d depth" and "3d tv size" options.

Same issue here too.

The 3D Setting > Blank HDMI 2 option was added in the last Public Beta firmware. If you are using the current Official firmware it will not be present.

Chris6878, the Public Beta firmware will not be offered by the Network install or Network firmware check. You need to download it from the OPPO Support page for the 103 and install using either the USB stick (recommended) or burned-disc methods.

In Setup > Device Setup > Firmware Information. The Main version number for the latest, Public Beta firmware will end 1205B.
--Bob
post #2950 of 16361
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

The 3D Setting > Blank HDMI 2 option was added in the last Public Beta firmware. If you are using the current Official firmware it will not be present.
--Bob

I am on the current beta. Bob, Just so you know it plays with the single HDMI 1 cable setup but does not play with the HDMI 1 > TV and HDMI 2 > AVR. There is also a flashing on the screen.
Edited by Brian-HD - 12/8/12 at 7:18am
post #2951 of 16361
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian-HD View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

The 3D Setting > Blank HDMI 2 option was added in the last Public Beta firmware. If you are using the current Official firmware it will not be present.
--Bob

I am on the current beta.

Check your firmware version numbers again. I suspect you reloaded the Official firmware and have forgotten.

Setup > Video Setup > 3D Setting > Blank HDMI 2 is definitely present in the Public Beta 1205B firmware for the 103/105.
--Bob
post #2952 of 16361
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

If you are using HDMI for audio from the OPPO there's literally nothing the OPPO can be doing wrong that would produce the symptoms you are describing (noise that happens only WHILE changing the Volume setting on your AVR). The OPPO has no way of knowing when you are in the act of changing the Volume setting on the AVR. It sends the identical HDMI audio before, during, and after that Volume change in the AVR.
The most likely reason you are not hearing it from other devices is that they are not sending the same audio format to your AVR. Evidently your AVR is having trouble properly handling the audio during Volume transitions for some audio input formats. That would be an AVR problem.
Try this: Change the HDMI Audio setting in the OPPO between LPCM and Bitstream and see if you are getting the problem both ways. Note that content which is already LPCM (e.g., CDs) will still be output as LPCM even if Bitstream is set.
Also keep track of the type of tracks your are playing when the problem occurs. For example, if they are 7.1 tracks it is quite possible you've not been playing 7.1 tracks from your other Sources. Of if they are high bit rate tracks (higher than 48KHz), it may very well be the other Sources are not sending any of those. Or if the audio track is 24-bit, it is possible your other Sources are only ever sending 16-bit. If you spot a pattern, you can try to nail down precisely what input formats your AVR is having trouble with. For example, play a CD with HDCD Decoding OFF and DTS Neo:6 Mode OFF. That will be 16 bit stereo LPCM. For higher bit rate tracks, the test tracis on AIX Audio Calibration, Blu-ray, may be a good set of tests.
While playing audio that causes the problem, press Info on the OPPO to bring up its on-screen Info display. Then press Page Up or Page Down to toggle the information displayed. The bottom line of info will now show what the OPPO is sending out as OUTPUT on the HDMI outputs.
Check in the owner's thread for your AVR as others may have experienced this problem. There may even be a firmware update related to it, particularly if you can nail down the problem to audio input of a particular type.
Some AVRs also have horsepower limitations of one form or another. For example they might be on the edge of not being fast enough if you have Room Correction turned on -- particularly for higher rate audio input formats. This can show up in various ways. I wouldn't expect noise during Volume changes to be one of them, but it's worth a look if you can't find a firmware fix.
--Bob

Bob,

thank you very much for your very detailed response, much appreciated!!! I will try the things you recommended and reply back with my results. I did post in the official Denon AVR-xx13 thread and I'm awaiting response!

Again, thanks for your time and dedication to helping others out with the various issues!!
post #2953 of 16361
Quote:
Originally Posted by HDTBill View Post

How well do conventional DVD's work in the 103?
One reviewer at Amazon apparently thinks he sees a weakness with the unit handling the menu screens.
Thinking of pulling trigger soon.

No such problem. Evidently that poster found one disc which was giving him grief. There could be lots of reasons for that, including dirt on the playing surface.
--Bob
post #2954 of 16361
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Check your firmware version numbers again. I suspect you reloaded the Official firmware and have forgotten.
Setup > Video Setup > 3D Setting > Blank HDMI 2 is definitely present in the Public Beta 1205B firmware for the 103/105.
--Bob

Maybe, I confused you, but I have blank 2 and there is still no audio.
post #2955 of 16361
Quote:
Originally Posted by CDAHL View Post

I have a media library with both over 110 "music" and "photo" directories. Oppo only seems to show only the first 110 "music" and "photo" directories. This is true whether accessing media library via Synology NAS or a copy of media llibrary i keep on separate windows 7 computer , also whether accessing "music" directories vs "photo" directories (I have less than 110 video directories). It always on shows ONLY the first 110 directories:mad:. Am I doing something wrong or is this a limitation of the OPPO 103? Thanks much for any assistance

Send OPPO Tech Support an email with the details (they are likely monitoring email over the weekend). They may have history with the server(s) you are using.

Can you attach the drive with the large number of folders directly to a USB input on the OPPO to see if it spots all of them that way? That would help isolate whether the problem is specific to access via the servers.
--Bob
post #2956 of 16361
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Check your firmware version numbers again. I suspect you reloaded the Official firmware and have forgotten.
Setup > Video Setup > 3D Setting > Blank HDMI 2 is definitely present in the Public Beta 1205B firmware for the 103/105.
--Bob

Issue solved with 3D audio without changing any of the current settings. I reinstalled the current beta FW.
post #2957 of 16361
Regarding the 1205B Public Beta Firmware

My personal opinion is that everyone active in this thread should update to the 1205B Public Beta firmware.

It has important bug fixes, and no significant new gotchas that are not also present in the current Official firmware.

Be advised that using a Beta firmware means you will have to do a USB (or, if you really must, a burned-disc) install BOTH WAYS. That is, if you are currently running the Official firmware you'll need to do a USB install now to get the Public Beta firmware. And you'll ALSO need to do a USB install later to get the next Official firmware whenever it is released. Network update only applies when going from Official to newer Official or from Public Beta to newer Public Beta.

But doing a USB install is no big hassle, and if you've never done it before now's a fine time to learn how. The instructions are on the OPPO support page for the 1205B Public Beta firmware.
--Bob
post #2958 of 16361
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian-HD View Post

Issue solved with 3D audio without changing any of the current settings. I reinstalled the current beta FW.

Interesting! Did you do the recommended Reset after the install the first time, and also this time?
--Bob
post #2959 of 16361
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Interesting! Did you do the recommended Reset after the install the first time, and also this time?
--Bob

Yes! I did the reset, but what I noticed this time that the FW was in 3 parts. The first time when I installed, it was just ONE part and the player turned off. When I checked the player, it was saying 1205B, but I still reinstalled.
post #2960 of 16361
Quote:
Originally Posted by chris6878 View Post

I checked to make sure i have the latest firmware and I do.
I looked in my 3d setting and I dont have the option for Blank hdmi2. I only have "2d-3d depth" and "3d tv size" options.

Download FW again and try reinstall FW.
post #2961 of 16361
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian-HD View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Interesting! Did you do the recommended Reset after the install the first time, and also this time?
--Bob

Yes! I did the reset, but what I noticed this time that the FW was in 3 parts. The first time when I installed, it was just ONE part and the player turned off. When I checked the player, it was saying 1205B, but I still reinstalled.

Only 1 part actually changed -- the Main firmware. That's what the Network install would get you coming from the prior Public Beta, or if you do a USB install from prior Main firmware. That is, if there are changes in any of the 3 parts, then ONLY the changed parts are offered.

When you do the RE-install via USB, you are offered the option to re-install all 3 parts individually.
--Bob
post #2962 of 16361
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Only 1 part actually changed -- the Main firmware. That's what the Network install would get you coming from the prior Public Beta, or if you do a USB install from prior Main firmware. That is, if there are changes in any of the 3 parts, then ONLY the changed parts are offered.
When you do the RE-install via USB, you are offered the option to re-install all 3 parts individually.
--Bob

USB reinstalled and I was offered all three parts individually. File size from info 101,898,240 bytes (101.9 MB on disk)
post #2963 of 16361
Oppo file size from website.

post #2964 of 16361
^ Yes, all 3 pieces are in there, but they only get offered up in the fashion I described -- i.e., depending on whether you are doing an update or a re-install.
--bob
post #2965 of 16361
I just received my BDP-103 a couple of days ago and have been putting it through its paces. So far everything I have tried has worked just fine (blu ray, DVD, SACD, CD, Netflix), but yesterday I decided to try the unit as a preamp and go directly to my amps. In this setup, there is quite a bit of hiss present in all of the speakers -- way too much for this to be a viable alternative setup. The volume level is set at about 25-30 for my normal listening. If I run the 103 via HDMI to my AV processor, everything is dead silent. I have only seen one other person that has attempted to use the 103 as a preamp, and he too noted a high level of hiss. Has anyone been successful in using the 103 (or 105 for that matter) as a preamp successfully?

Thanks,
Bret.
post #2966 of 16361
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ Yes, all 3 pieces are in there, but they only get offered up in the fashion I described -- i.e., depending on whether you are doing an update or a re-install.
--bob

I am not sure what happened the first time.
post #2967 of 16361
Quote:
Originally Posted by punter45 View Post

I just received my BDP-103 a couple of days ago and have been putting it through its paces. So far everything I have tried has worked just fine (blu ray, DVD, SACD, CD, Netflix), but yesterday I decided to try the unit as a preamp and go directly to my amps. In this setup, there is quite a bit of hiss present in all of the speakers -- way too much for this to be a viable alternative setup. The volume level is set at about 25-30 for my normal listening. If I run the 103 via HDMI to my AV processor, everything is dead silent. I have only seen one other person that has attempted to use the 103 as a preamp, and he too noted a high level of hiss. Has anyone been successful in using the 103 (or 105 for that matter) as a preamp successfully?

Thanks,
Bret.

This is not normal. Hiss is usually due to external interference. A common source is room light dimmer switches, perhaps in an adjacent room. Check that by cutting off power to those dimmers (not simply turning them down). (See the Hum/Hiss FAQ in the Audio Theory forum here for additional suggestions.)

Give OPPO Tech Support a call on Monday or email them over the weekend and they can help you diagnose this. If it's a fault in your player then of course they'll take care of it. But, again, hiss is usually due to interference coming from something else. I presume you are using shielded cables to connect the OPPO to the power amp, but if not, then obviously that's the first place to start.
--Bob
post #2968 of 16361
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

This is not normal. Hiss is usually due to external interference. A common source is room light dimmer switches, perhaps in an adjacent room. Check that by cutting off power to those dimmers (not simply turning them down). (See the Hum/Hiss FAQ in the Audio Theory forum here for additional suggestions.)
Give OPPO Tech Support a call on Monday or email them over the weekend and they can help you diagnose this. If it's a fault in your player then of course they'll take care of it. But, again, hiss is usually due to interference coming from something else. I presume you are using shielded cables to connect the OPPO to the power amp, but if not, then obviously that's the first place to start.
--Bob

Thanks for the quick response Bob. I am pretty certain it is not my setup. I have dedicated lines for my HT, all shielded cables, and I have never had any hiss/noise problems in my system before. I sent an email to Oppo this morning so I will see what they say. I would like to know if anyone has successfully used the 103 or 105 as a preamp. Reading through the forums, I have not seen anyone that is using the units in this way. Most use the analog outs to a preamp, so the volume control is set to fixed (max output). I am hoping it is not something to do with the digital volume control. The hiss is present as soon as the volume is incremented above 0. The hiss level stays constant, regardless of the volume.

Hopefully this can be resolved as the unit sounds fantastic when the volume is loud enough to mask the hiss. However, it is loud enough to be quite distracting during quiet music or movie passages. I would really like to get rid of my AV processor and use the Oppo for all of my multi-channel needs.
Edited by punter45 - 12/8/12 at 10:45am
post #2969 of 16361
Quote:
Originally Posted by punter45 View Post

... I would like to know if anyone has successfully used the 103 or 105 as a preamp successfully.

Yes, I use my BDP-105 successfully as a preamp (now that the audio delay problem had been somewhat ameliorated) and I believe there are others as well. Until the BDP-105 came along I thought I'd be in the market for a new pre-pro or receiver but now it's the hub of my setup. I've also had the volume down quite low with no hiss or other nasty artifacts apparent.

Chris
post #2970 of 16361
Volume 0 is implemented as Mute. It is unlikely the problem is in the volume control.

Most of the folks trying this are using the 105. If you scan that thread you'll see plenty of people are doing this -- with volume control in the OPPO -- and without problems.

Now you are using a 103, but I say again, this is not normal and the most likely cause, would be something external to the player, so that needs to be taken into account when tracking this down.
--Bob
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Blu-ray Players
AVS › AVS Forum › Blu-ray & HD DVD › Blu-ray Players ›  Official OPPO BDP-103 Owner's Thread