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post #3031 of 16434
Azuradisk is a repair system. The disk was probably damaged before and was repaired (or not) with Azuradisk.
post #3032 of 16434
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Originally Posted by ed1 View Post

This was a commercially produced version of an old movie. The disc is a 20th Century Fox Films release. Borrowed from my public library.
I'm not familiar with Azuradisc and will try to do a bit of investigating. It seems curious that a film released on disc by a major studio could not play on the Oppo player.
All the symptoms point to a disc issue (damaged) and not an Oppo issue, IMHO. FWIW, Azuradisc also does disc repair so if the library did not install the "protective cover" it's also possible that Azurdisc added it when it was sent to them for repair.
post #3033 of 16434
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Originally Posted by ed1 View Post

This was a commercially produced version of an old movie. The disc is a 20th Century Fox Films release. Borrowed from my public library.
I'm not familiar with Azuradisc and will try to do a bit of investigating. It seems curious that a film released on disc by a major studio could not play on the Oppo player.

It's a library disc, plus has some weird covering on it. It's no surprise it has playback issues. It has nothing to do with it being from "a major studio" or not. You can try cleaning the disc, but that covering may be the real problem. It sounds like player is attempting to load the disc, so odds are that it simply has damage to the data side, or defects, or dirt. Also be aware that some discs take a long time to load and patience is required. Turn off BD-Live to speed that up.
post #3034 of 16434
^ Two different discs, two different formats. The most likely explanation is that the Blu-ray disc is damaged. The specs on Blu-ray are such that damage may not even be visible to the eye.

It's also possible the disc just needs cleaning.

As mentioned, the player has no problem with 50GB commercial Blu-ray discs. The problem you are experience is specific to THIS disc, and more likely due to the recording surface being damaged than anything else, although playing discs with laminates applied is definitely not recommended.
--Bob
post #3035 of 16434
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Originally Posted by slimoli View Post

Azuradisk is a repair system. The disk was probably damaged before and was repaired (or not) with Azuradisk.
Then again it could have been repaired and damaged again.
post #3036 of 16434
OK, guys. Thanks for all of the info. I guess this disc is going back to the library unwatched.
post #3037 of 16434
Can you have the Oppo WIFI dongle and the ROKU streaming stick inserted in the machine at the same time and use either/or at your discretion?
post #3038 of 16434
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Originally Posted by sourbeef View Post

Can you have the Oppo WIFI dongle and the ROKU streaming stick inserted in the machine at the same time and use either/or at your discretion?

Yes.

-Bill
post #3039 of 16434
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Yes.
-Bill

Thanks, I just ordered one from OPPO at the bundled price of $49.....and thanks to Bob Pariseau for mentioning it in an earlier post. cool.gif
post #3040 of 16434
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Originally Posted by SilverLitz View Post

I updated my BDP-103 FW to the latest beta from the 10/18 official, and I am having problems with HDMI input. I have the OPPO BDP-103 feeding my Panasonic P60S30 plasma and Onkyo NR609 AVR using the 2 split HDMI connections (HDMI1 to the Panasonic P60S30 plasma and HDMI2 to the Onkyo NR609 AVR).
With the official FW, my only video complaint seems to be the handshaking issues when switching from BD/DVD to DirecTV (routed via the OPPO HDMI in the Back) on the OPPO, as the audio goes silent and it takes a channel change (which blacks out the video instaneously) to restore it. After installing the new beta FW, my BDP-103 does NOT see the DirecTV at all, it just says "No Input Signal".
I have powered everything on/off, and unplugged/plugged the HDMI cables as well, with no success. What is wrong?

I called Oppo Support today, and believe my problems are solved.

1) Regarding my "No Input Signal" problem with HDMI input. I changed my HDMI cable from a Monoprice 3ft 24AWG CL2 High Speed HDMI® Cable w/ Net Jacket (which worked fine w/ Official FW) to a Monoprice 6ft 24AWG CL2 Silver Plated High Speed HDMI® Cable. Both are premium 24g cables, but better results w/ the Silver Plated, longer cable.

2) My lip synch issues with DirecTV have been corrected with the 12/05 Beta FW.

3) My HDMI handshake audio issue (delaying audio ~1min) was corrected by turning OFF RIHD HDMI control on my Onkyo AVR. It could also be corrected by having the Oppo having Dual Display instead of Split AV.
post #3041 of 16434
Has anyone created iRule IP codes for the 103 yet? I am aware that the file for the 93 will work for the functions that the players share; however, functions unique to the 103 are nto available (AFAIK)

Thanks,

Willie
post #3042 of 16434
Just bought the 103 and it is one awesome blu ray player.I'm using the dual hdmi set up,one directly to the tv and the other to the avr.The picture and sound are very good,way over the top of sony's ps3 thin model blu ray,which is considered a very good blu ray player.
post #3043 of 16434
Not sure,but I know you have to change your hdmi input on your tv when using the oppo.I have mine dual as well and hdmi 1 from the oppo goes to the tv hdmi 1 and hdmi 2 of the oppo goes the the avr blu ray hdmi input,so the tv must be at hdmi 1 for blu ray and all the other inputs on the avr will play from hdmi 2 or whatever one you connected from the avr monitor out to the tv.If this makes sense.
post #3044 of 16434
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

I do not recommend you try that. You should not interrupt a firmware install in progress.
I was asking about interrupting the download, rather than the install. But, more to the point, I'm asking if the UI or front panel provides a method to do this - for example, is there a cancel button? I'm not asking if I unplug the power will it safely recover, or anything along those lines.
post #3045 of 16434
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Originally Posted by SilverLitz View Post

I called Oppo Support today, and believe my problems are solved.

1) Regarding my "No Input Signal" problem with HDMI input. I changed my HDMI cable from a Monoprice 3ft 24AWG CL2 High Speed HDMI® Cable w/ Net Jacket (which worked fine w/ Official FW) to a Monoprice 6ft 24AWG CL2 Silver Plated High Speed HDMI® Cable. Both are premium 24g cables, but better results w/ the Silver Plated, longer cable.

2) My lip synch issues with DirecTV have been corrected with the 12/05 Beta FW.

3) My HDMI handshake audio issue (delaying audio ~1min) was corrected by turning OFF RIHD HDMI control on my Onkyo AVR. It could also be corrected by having the Oppo having Dual Display instead of Split AV.

One of the more non-intuitive secrets of HDMI is that short cables can cause just as much problem as long cables!

This has to do with the HDMI chips being designed around a "sweet spot" length of 6 feet (2 meters), and with the corrective, signal "equalization" stuff in HDMI chips being much more focussed on enabling cables longer than 6 feet to work instead of shorter.

If there are older HDMI chips at either end of the cable, the problem with both longer and shorter cables is more likely to arise.

It is possible, then that what really helped in your case was switching from a 3 foot cable to a 6 foot cable.
--Bob
post #3046 of 16434
From what I've read the OPPO 103 should have superior audio to the Panasonic bdp-220. I'm a fan of OPPO, having happily lived with my old 971H for a long time. I just upgraded to a 3D TV and got that Panasonic for free with it. I have a very old receiver and can only take optical and coax so cannot take advantage of the uncompressed HDMI audio, nor do I have direct audio-in's on the box. My question is whether I will still notice a difference in audio quality using the digital output from the OPPO 103 vs the panasonic? The blu-ray player may become our sole CD player as well so I want to make sure I'm going to be happy with things. My dad has the Oppo 83 which I have thought about borrowing to do a comparison.
post #3047 of 16434
Is your receiver so old that it doesn't have 5.1 or 7.1 analog inputs either?
post #3048 of 16434
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Originally Posted by Willie View Post

Has anyone created iRule IP codes for the 103 yet? I am aware that the file for the 93 will work for the functions that the players share; however, functions unique to the 103 are nto available (AFAIK)
Thanks,
Willie

Do you mean the RS 232 codes? I was looking at the list of Oppo's RS 232 button codes and there are only five new codes. Should be trivial to add but I only checked the button codes and not the advanced commands.

If you are talking actual network control never mind. smile.gif Would love to see real "IP" control via the network but I don't think Oppo have finalized that yet.
post #3049 of 16434
Ip control coming soon and I can't wait. Want to use Roomie Remote to control everything , mx-3000 has got to go.
post #3050 of 16434
Yea and here's hoping we get support from one of the big media apps like XBMC or Plex in addition to the basic remote apps. Would love to have a nice jukebox on my iPad using the 103 as the rendering device.
post #3051 of 16434
Is Magnolia still an Oppo "dealer" and selling the 103/105's?
post #3052 of 16434
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Originally Posted by FilmMixer View Post

Is Magnolia still an Oppo "dealer" and selling the 103/105's?


Yes. I bought my BDP-103 at Magnolia/Best buy Costa Mesa
post #3053 of 16434
This should work to enable HDMI on the MHL cable/input with a Samsung Galaxy S3 or a Note II
Samsung EPL-FU10BEBSTA HDTV Adapter TIP (5 to 11 Pin Converter)
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/281023429192
(I'm not the seller)

[UPDATE] With the OPPO MHL cable and the above Samsung adapter, I get picture and battery recharge. It also plugs in all right over my case. So everything is OK wink.gif
Edited by lap777 - 12/19/12 at 7:25pm
post #3054 of 16434
Hi,

Is true that the BDP-103 is unable to play MKV 3D MVC files?

If yes,
This behavior will be changed soon?

If yes,
Ok, I like you, Oppo
Else
I will put my unit to sell today, because it is very important for me.
Else
Tell it to reviewer of Oppo at http://www.hdfever.fr/2012/12/08/test-oppo-bdp-105eu/

Thanks,
post #3055 of 16434
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Originally Posted by ed1 View Post

My quick research indicates that Azuradisc is a repair service for discs. They also offer a guard product, which appears to be a plastic layer over the printed side of the disc. Supposedly to help protect the foil layer of the disc.
I'm not sure this is the cause of the failure of my BDP-103 to read the blu-ray disc. The movie box had 2 discs. One was a dual layer Blu-ray of the movie iteself. The other was a DVD with trailers, interviews, extra features. Both discs had the Azuradisc protection. The Oppo player could not play the Blu-ray disc, but played the DVD just fine.
Why would a label-side protector affect the player's ability to play any disc? And why the problem with the Blu-ray but not the DVD?

This is not a surprising result... at all... the "protective film" applied to the label side of the disc is thick enough to MOVE THE DISC CLOSER TO THE LASER. This will affect the operation of the focus servo... a feedback system that keeps the laser focused on one of the two layers of the disc to compensate for slightly wobbly playback (discs rarely seat with 100% perfection and discs are rarely 100% perfectly flat nor do they have absolutely perfect and uniform thickness... all of those things require focus (up and down movement of a lens) and tracking (compensation for slight out-of-roundness) servos to keep the data readable.

With the stick-on layer applied, the laser is trying to focus in between where it thinks layer 1 and layer 2 should exist in space.

Another issue with a stick-on layer like this... let's assume the hole in the stick-on layer is large enough that neither the top nor bottom part of the clamp mechanism in the disc transport actually touch the adhesive film... the clamp only touches the bare disc because the hole in the clear film is large enough. The disc spins fairly fast and if the adhesive layer is placed even SLIGHTLY off center, it will unbalance the disc, causing the disc to wobble while it rotates. The focus and tracking servos can compensate for a minimum amount of wobble present on production commercial Blu-ray discs, but when you place something like this material on the disc, the balance of the disc can be changed enough for the wobble to become so severe that the focus and/or tracking servos to not be able to read the disc reliably.

So blame the stick-on protector for the problem. But as Bob mentioned... clean the disc anyway... rental discs (and library discs) will sometimes fail to read even if they look clean initially. Clean it anyway and dry it, then see if it plays. If not, the stick-on protector is the problem. To clean discs, I find a drop of liquid soap and water works fine... clean the clear side of the disc, dry with any clean & soft towel. there is a hard coating applied to Blu-ray discs that prevent a soft towel from scratching the disc.
post #3056 of 16434
Be aware that the Roku stick available from Oppo for $50 lacks the remote control which doubles as the game controller and has a motion sensor. Not a huge deal, but the games feature is lost without the Roku remote.
post #3057 of 16434
Hey guys I was planning on getting the Oppo 103 and replace my Rotel preamp and connect the Oppo directly to my Rotel amp, which I understand quite a few people have already done. My Rotel amp has a 12v trigger to turn it on and off when I turn my Rotel preamp on and off. How do I accomplish this with the Oppo 103 since I don't see a 12v trigger out. Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated.
post #3058 of 16434
You will probably have to turn on the amp manually each time using the power button on the front, or just leave it on all the time.
post #3059 of 16434
I've read a suggestion of using the 5V USB power from the player as a trigger. Whether that works will depend on the amp's sensitivity on the trigger. It's also possible that the player's USB ports remain hot in quick-start mode, I'm not sure.
post #3060 of 16434
Posted by Bob earlier:
I believe if you use Quick Start mode in the 103/105, the USB sockets may remain powered even while the player is in stand-by "Off". I've not checked this in general, but that's certainly the case for whichever USB socket you have the Wifi dongle plugged into.''


Posted by smonska:
''The USB jacks have 5V present in them. You need a USB to 1/8" headphone adapter. 5V will trigger most HT equipment's "12V" trigger.

Anyone tried this to confirm?
Edited by Wavod - 12/11/12 at 12:25pm
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