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post #3631 of 16400
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

So you are blocking the headphone output with this connector, right? In my case, i wouldn't want to block the HA or the front HDMI port so maybe the upright angled one would do it for me.
True I have to disconnect the Roku stick to utilize my headphones. smile.gif

I do have a Apple TV plugged into the rear input, so i am really suffering. That also supports Netflix HD/5.1 as the BDP-103/105 does, where the Roku doesn't yet.

There are disadvantages to each adapter, turn left blocks USB port, turn right blocks headphone jack, go upright would block a little of the control interface buttons. Probably a very short flexable HDMI cable so you lay the Roku Stick on the top or side of the unit would work best.
Edited by JohnAV - 12/25/12 at 10:06pm
post #3632 of 16400
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Originally Posted by bbar View Post

Can you please confirm you have a HDMI in connector on the AVR as I don't believe the AVR-3805 has one!
This would suggest you are using coax or optical .
When doing so you will only get the 5.1 tracks.
Yes, the 2807 has two HDMI in ports.

They are version 1.1, so they can't pass 3D, and they can't decode lossless codecs.
post #3633 of 16400
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Originally Posted by zoomin View Post

I just tried to run my digital cable box through the HDMI input on my 103 for the first time.
It's a Motorola box provided by Shaw cable up here in Canada.
First screen had a blue strip across it talking about DRM violation.
That went away then black screen fo 4-5 seconds, then video but no audio.
Then black screen.
Then Video and Audio! ...but then black screen frown.gif
Then it cycled repeatedly between black screen, video only, black screen, video and audio.
Any advice appreciated - thanks.

Had almost the identical sequence of events with a Comcast supplied Motorola box. I was temporarily sending the cable HDMI through the 103 while I awaited getting back my AV pre-pro. What I found is that (with patience) I could always get the picture/audio to synch. What seemed to work, and I tried just about every combination, is to switch to a standard-def channel from a high-def channel. If it doesn't synch up (let it go a few cycles if necessary), try switching to a different SD channel, and wait again. Once it syncs up it seems to stay synched and you can switch to any HD channel afterwards. Worst case I had to try for several minutes. best case it synched the first switch to a SD channel - but you always have to start out on an HD channel first. Hope this works for you. DRM is certainly a pain in the you-know-what, and HDMI is a bit of a nightmare ;-) Good luck!
post #3634 of 16400

To anyone who is getting "login failed" screens when using SMB (Windows share):

 

My Win7 x64 settings:

 

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Computer: wireless
Oppo: wired
 
Under the "Sharing>>Advanced Sharing" option of the folder properties I have given permissions to Everyone.

Similarly, under the "Security" tab, I have given full-control to Everyone.

Under "Control Panel>>Network & Sharing Center>> Advanced sharing settings" I have the following:

Network Discovery: On
File and printer sharing: On
Public folder sharing: Off (was previously on, but that didn't work)
File sharing connections: Use 128-bit
Password protected sharing: On
HomeGroup Connections: Windows manages. (Note: I have not set up a homegroup).

 

With the above settings, my share is accessible and playing smoothly from the player. Oppo now accepts my username/password combination. With password protection turned off it would not work. Oppo support emailed me in response to my inquiry and said that the player must input a password. At this juncture I'm not 100% certain that giving continued access to Everyone is a requirement, but I have noticed that nonetheless my phone now asks for a user/pass when before it could access my share without. I might experiment in the future after I savor my victory, but for now I'm leaving my settings as is.

 

Also, as a note to those who say their share isn't visible to start with: make sure your Ethernet cable going into your router is on the "Internet" (or its equivalent) port, otherwise the IP addresses will not be within the same domain and will be considered different networks.

 

I hope this helps others!

post #3635 of 16400
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Originally Posted by ch47d View Post

Yes, the 2807 has two HDMI in ports.
They are version 1.1, so they can't pass 3D, and they can't decode lossless codecs.

Lol, not sure where I got the AVR as being a 3805.

Yep, 2807 should sync up fine so has to be EDID issue.

Would try Oppo support.
post #3636 of 16400
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Originally Posted by larryep View Post

hello forum members
Merry Christmas!
I am debating to buy a emotiva umc-200 or the Oppo.
here is my setup: a htpc/xbox and a emotiva upa-7 amp (7 channels)
right know i do not have a xbox hooked up, because of the lack of a video processeor or receiver to switch devices. I don't plan to run anymore devices. I have been just running a HTPC to the projector and the Htpc audio from the 8 channel 3.5 mm to rca's to my amp. been doing this for the past 2 years. been happy with sound but would like to add the high quality bluray player and the xbox.
I asume the oppo can switch between the HTPC and xbox fairlly easy and fast.
the pros for the umc-200
4 hdmi ins. versus the 2 on the oppo
room correction
maual audio equalization
The pros for the Oppo
2 hdmi's out (i have a lobby screen that I want to mirror the projected image) versus just one on the umc-200
a blu ray player
network connection and apps.
any comments or details to the pros would be appreciated
thank you
Larry


any oppo users that do not have an AVR that use the Oppo has a avr? likeb to hear your comments.

thank you
post #3637 of 16400
Guys,

Would adding an Oppo BDP 103 to my existing line,
- PS3 slim (mainly video playback - BD,DVD,AVI etc)
- Marantz SR 7007 (FLAC playback via USB port)
- Samsung UE46ES8000 (mkv playback via USB)
- Speakers B&W CM8/CMC/CM1/ASW610.
delivered through the Marantz via HDMI,

be noticeable in the quality, on both video and audio aspect, or would Marantz's DACs and other chips be sufficient for the job.

Thanks in advance for your suggestions and comments

Cheers
MG
post #3638 of 16400
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Originally Posted by JohnAV View Post

The big stick sticking out is easy to resolve see Monoprice. You can use one of these male to female adapters easily.

As for Stargate Atlantis, heck $72 buys you the complete BD set (seasons 1 - 4) on Amazon, heck a lot better then Amazon streaming.
The Roku Stick also offers a lot music services streaming. (new Spotify and Vevo channels just added)
Happy Holidays.

I tried one of these and it works fine for regular hdmi cables but it did not work with the Roku Stick.
post #3639 of 16400
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Originally Posted by greeneye48 View Post

Had almost the identical sequence of events with a Comcast supplied Motorola box. I was temporarily sending the cable HDMI through the 103 while I awaited getting back my AV pre-pro. What I found is that (with patience) I could always get the picture/audio to synch. What seemed to work, and I tried just about every combination, is to switch to a standard-def channel from a high-def channel. If it doesn't synch up (let it go a few cycles if necessary), try switching to a different SD channel, and wait again. Once it syncs up it seems to stay synched and you can switch to any HD channel afterwards. Worst case I had to try for several minutes. best case it synched the first switch to a SD channel - but you always have to start out on an HD channel first. Hope this works for you. DRM is certainly a pain in the you-know-what, and HDMI is a bit of a nightmare ;-) Good luck!

Hey thanks for the tip - I'll try that out later.

Right now I am back to using an AV Receiver in the mix for hdmi switching.
post #3640 of 16400
Here's something I'd like everyone to try to help me determine if I have any potential hardware issues with my bdp-103 disc loader (doubtful). I can barely hear a constant 3-peating "tick tick tick" every 15-20 seconds coming from the disc tray of my 103 when playing blu-rays. It actually only makes this sound when reading blu-ray discs, and not dvd's, cd's, sacd's, or dvd-a's. I think this noise is completely normal (the sound of the laser tracking according to oppo), but I wondered if some of you on the forum here could try to see if you can hear it as well on your players. Start up a blu-ray disc and skip to a particular scene (no menus), then put your ear up to your disc tray and you should hear a slight tick tick tick every 20 seconds or so as the laser reads. let me know if you hear it. I can kind of just barely hear it from my seating position at 6-8ft away from my player, but it's not too annoying. I was hoping it would be a completely silent loader, but I realize that's not entirely possible given the fact that the disc does spin very rapidly and the laser is constantly tracking on the disc. I'm just surprised that different media sound different in the loader. The fact that I only hear this noise on blu-rays and not other disc media makes me think this is just a characteristic of the loader and not any particular defect. The tick is very slight, and you could only hear it in a silent room. Curse my sensitive hearing!
post #3641 of 16400
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Originally Posted by rickydenim View Post

For the Oppo to play TrueHD/DTS-HD soundtracks via MKV, it needs to do the decoding internally so you need to have the player set the LPCM instead of bitstream. This way the player is doing the decoding as it can't pass it to the receiver by bitstream in mkv. I've tested this myself and works fine. It will show as MLPCM which is correct.

Thanks for that. I set the 103 to do the decoding and it worked just fine. Still not sure why it identifies the audio track as MLP 5.1 (and it is exactly listed as that on screen) rather than TrueHD. It is kind of like using the generic name (I have discovered that Dolby does use MLP encoding for their TrueHD)... but I never argue with success, and it does work to get me high bit rate multi-channel sound when configured per your suggestion. I had the decoding setting at Auto. Would have thought that the 103 would have made the decision on its own. Now I am left to wonder wht the AUTO setting actually does.

Thanks Again,
Phil
post #3642 of 16400
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

The Qdeo applies some noise reduction by default, even if you have this set to "0". The effect is visible on DVD, not so much on BD. Personally I feel this is more a benefit for streaming content than DVD, but many folks like the effect on DVD too. I use HDMI-2 for all sources.

Well, not to belabor the point, but the actual visual differences look like more than what I think of as NR. There is also a difference in contrast, although
perhaps that is in some way a NR issue (not an expert in that). But the HDMI has a tiny bit more pop, but it's an artificial pop. The reds are also seem
slightly more pronounced.

These are all very subtle differences, and are only noticeable on DVD and then if you really know the material and look closely.

In my case, I'm looking at DVDs of films I made, and oversaw the DVD mastering. Back a ways I wrote a long couple of posts about the
specific differences between what I was seeing on my old 983 and BDP-83 with the ABT chip, and the HDMI 1 and 2 on my 103.

Again, small but there.

I guess it is possible that the addition of NR somehow has subtle 'bleed throughs' to what I think of as other areas of PQ.

The good news is they were all excellent images in a vacuum, but in terms of accuracy to original intent, the old ABT was best,
followed by the HDMI 2 on the 103, and the HDMI 1.
post #3643 of 16400
I read through a lot of this but I'm trying to decide between a 103 and a Dune HD Duo.

I want to go all digital. Convert my BD's, DVD-A's, and start buying music on hires downloads versus physical discs.

If I rip a BD can it play on 103 over the network?

I know it will not play an ISO but we are not extra's people. We watch the movie and thats it. If we want to watch the movie then we'll drop in the disc.

I'm looking for all my audio to come out the analog outs. I have an 83 now so I know it works for DTS-MA and obviously SACD/DVD-A.

I was set on the Dune HD Duo but seems like its an ever evolving(meaning something always to fix) technology versus the Oppo which I assume would get more direct attention and fixes.
post #3644 of 16400
Just got my 103 today. Put it through it's paces and it seems to work well.
The only issue I have is that Audio sometimes comes in a second later than video at the very start of a movie. Has anyone else experienced this?
I am running audio Bitstreamed through HDMI 1 to my Denon 3808 receiver out to the projector.
Everything else is fine and looks good, and it's not a huge issue.

Mark
post #3645 of 16400
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Originally Posted by Eric_Connelly View Post

If I rip a BD can it play on 103 over the network?

Ripped to what format?

-Bill
post #3646 of 16400
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Ripped to what format?
-Bill

Whatever will give me DTA-MA on BD's with it available.

The format is less concerning to me than it just working.
post #3647 of 16400
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Originally Posted by zoomin View Post

I tried one of these and it works fine for regular hdmi cables but it did not work with the Roku Stick.
The monoprice 270 degree one works fine for me. There are a number of us that use one. If you look at the Oppo input it is either a HDMI or MHL input depending on the usage. The connection is a standard 19 pin HDMI connector. A HDMI right angle adapter is merely a 19 pin extension, all pins active.
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MHL is basically an HDMI stream that has three logic channels multiplexed into a single physical one. Each logic channel represents a data channel in HDMI. Overall, an MHL cable only needs five wires instead of the nineteen used in HDMI.
I am using the OEM version of the Roku Stick, but there should be no difference between what Roku sells.
post #3648 of 16400
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Originally Posted by Eric_Connelly View Post

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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Ripped to what format?
-Bill

Whatever will give me DTA-MA on BD's with it available.

The format is less concerning to me than it just working.

You might see this section in the BDP-93 FAQ: What are the alternatives to .iso files?

Currently, Blu-ray ISO can be made to work over SMB with a trick: How do you play Blu-ray ISO files over SMB?

Note that the studios don't want you doing any of this. Cinavia is one of the ways they are fighting back; who knows what restrictions they will require in the future?

-Bill
post #3649 of 16400
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Originally Posted by MurrayW View Post


I'm wondering this too.  I just got my Oppo and 3D TV yesterday and was sad to learn that I couldn't display 3D content from DirecTV.  Does the front HDMI work for DirecTV 3D?

thanks,

Murray


This is a fast moving thread, so I am bumping this again with hopes that someone knows the answer.

post #3650 of 16400
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Originally Posted by Eric_Connelly View Post

I read through a lot of this but I'm trying to decide between a 103 and a Dune HD Duo.
I want to go all digital. Convert my BD's, DVD-A's, and start buying music on hires downloads versus physical discs.
If I rip a BD can it play on 103 over the network?
I know it will not play an ISO but we are not extra's people. We watch the movie and thats it. If we want to watch the movie then we'll drop in the disc.
I'm looking for all my audio to come out the analog outs. I have an 83 now so I know it works for DTS-MA and obviously SACD/DVD-A.
I was set on the Dune HD Duo but seems like its an ever evolving(meaning something always to fix) technology versus the Oppo which I assume would get more direct attention and fixes.

AFAIK, Dune cannot play DVD-A in any form.
That said, if you want a media controller, buy the Dune. If you want a shiny disc player, Oppo. There is no such thing as one box to do it all. The Dune also acts as NAS which you can access from a PC and manage files, and the Dune can also manage files across the network on other network storage. Oppo supports 3D BD, Dune does not. Decide whats important to you.
post #3651 of 16400
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Originally Posted by Eric_Connelly View Post

Whatever will give me DTA-MA on BD's with it available.
The format is less concerning to me than it just working.

I currently have all my BDs ripped to/via "M2TS-Passthrough" for the reason: "they just work". The only player/TV (that I have owned) that doesn't like M2TS with MA or HD audio is Panasonic. The OPPOs have no issue with it. I have no need for extras or menus thus the M2TS file works for me yet not others. I just want to click the file and watch a movie etc.
cheers
post #3652 of 16400
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Originally Posted by Eric_Connelly View Post

Whatever will give me DTA-MA on BD's with it available.
The format is less concerning to me than it just working.
FYI, MKVs created with MakeMKV, including files with DTS-MA and TrueHD audio tracks, work perfectly on the 103. IMHO, one advantage of the MKV container over m2ts is the inclusion of chapter markers.
post #3653 of 16400
Is it normal for Audio to start a second behind video? Bitstreaming through HDMI 1 to a Denon 3808.
Oppo support seems to think so.

Mark
post #3654 of 16400
Thanks for the replies.

I realize the Dune does not play DVD-A, I planned on ripping the ones I had and just buying hi-res FLAC from now on.

I have no need for the NAS functions of the Dune, nor the functions of the Duo as far as HD's but I do need analog outs which means buying one of the top 2 tiers.

What concerns me about the Dune is lack of support. Their website doesn't match the functionality of a lot of their stuff, mostly DTS-MA via HDMI and I cant get a clear answer out of them over over analog either.

Sounds like the 103 is a decent upgrade to what I have now and will do what I need it to do.

I'm probably going to pick up one of the smaller Dune's that does not have Analog for the bedroom.

Just one last question, the Oppo will play hires multichannel FLAC, correct? If I rip my multichannel DVD-A's using DVD-A Extractor into a 6 channel FLAC I should have no problems playing it back via the 103?

Now to sell my 83 smile.gif
post #3655 of 16400
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Originally Posted by Eric_Connelly View Post

Just one last question, the Oppo will play hires multichannel FLAC, correct? If I rip my multichannel DVD-A's using DVD-A Extractor into a 6 channel FLAC I should have no problems playing it back via the 103?
Yup, the Oppo plays very nicely with multichannel FLAC files from DVD-A extractor. A FLAC is a FLAC as long as it's properly authored.
post #3656 of 16400
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Originally Posted by bluechunks View Post

Yup, the Oppo plays very nicely with multichannel FLAC files from DVD-A extractor. A FLAC is a FLAC as long as it's properly authored.

Awesome, thanks.

Just ordered it.
post #3657 of 16400
Hello all, I'm literally behind my equipment rack right now. I am hooking up my new Denon 3313 avr, I had the 7.1 analog connection from my 103 to my older Denon. Do I want to connect dual hdmi to the receiver or a single hdmi connection? Please help thanks!
post #3658 of 16400
Two choices:

1) Single HDMI cable from Oppo port 1 to AVR and then a single HDMI from AVR to TV

2) Single HDMI cable from Oppo port 1 to TV and a single HDMI cable from Oppo port 2 to AVR

In no case will you need to run two HDMI cables between the Oppo and the Denon. It's a matter of preference but personally I'd use choice 1 to let the AVR do all the switching so only one cable is connected to the TV. Ymmv.
post #3659 of 16400
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Originally Posted by Rhythmx View Post

Is it normal for Audio to start a second behind video? Bitstreaming through HDMI 1 to a Denon 3808.
Oppo support seems to think so.
Mark
I don't know if its normal but it happens with my 103 also. When I had my Sony bdp 1000ES it didn't do this.
post #3660 of 16400
I recently purchased BDP-103. I've noticed two things-

I cannot load a Netflix movie- after establishing my account, I can get to the menu screen for Netflix, but once I select what I want to play, the "loading" screen comes up for a few seconds before going blank. The player becomes frozen, and I have to turn it off in order to regain control.

I have been able to use YouTube and Pandora without issues. The internet connection test in the settings menu works fine (I do have a wired connection, not wireless).

Also, I've noticed some sporadic freezing in regards to the loading of Red Book CDs. I listen to CDs a fair amount, and twice now I've had the player freeze on me when attempting to load a CD. This is not specific to one CD, and I cannot recreate it on whim. This happened once when GraceNote was turned on, once with it off.

I am running the current firmware.

Any ideas? I'd be very grateful for any help!
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