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post #3811 of 16369
Will 3D via DirecTV pass through be able to be fixed via a firmware update?

I sure hope so as the QDEO does a real nice job on DirecTV.
post #3812 of 16369
Hello all,

I am a new owner. I would like to ask a question and I hope it has not been asked before. My system consists of the BDP-103, an HTPC with a radeon 5450 card, a direct-tv DVR, an Onkyo 809 receiver and an LG plasma TV. Before I got the Oppo I was running everything thru the receiver. It was good enough I guess. Now I am thinking that I will plug the HTPV to the oppo and plug the oppo to the TV. Is it worth it or is the reciever's processing good enough? Would I be better off running the Driect-TV receiver thru the oppo instead? I would appreciate any recommendation as to how to improve my setup.
post #3813 of 16369
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Originally Posted by liltalkm View Post

Will 3D via DirecTV pass through be able to be fixed via a firmware update?
I sure hope so as the QDEO does a real nice job on DirecTV.


I got an email from Oppo support that it would eventually get fixed through a firmware update, I just don't know how high this is on their priority list.

 

Do you have any problems with the DirecTV 3D channel locking up your Oppo?  I have my DirecTV connected to the back HDMI input and whenever I switch to channel 106 (3D channel) it locks up the Oppo.  I have to power down and then power the Oppo back up and then I get sound and the 2 mirrored side-by-side pictures.  Oppo support said they haven't heard of anyone else with these same issues I am describing.

post #3814 of 16369
***FYI for those looking for Amazon Prime Streaming on OPPO******

12.29.12

Rick,

The ability to support Amazon Video ON Demand is something that we are looking into, but at this time Amazon is not offering any technical assistance in adding their application to our players, so we are not able to add this streaming service to our players through a simple firmware release.

Best Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.
2629B Terminal Blvd.
Mountain View, CA 94043
Service@oppodigital.com
Tel: 650-961-1118
Fax: 650-961-1119
****************************
I appreciate the response but it sounds like there is an issue with who pays what. I think both companies end up losing out - - more so OPPO than Amazon, but that doesn't help anyone who wants Amazon streaming.

Gee..maybe like the NHL, it will get resolved?
post #3815 of 16369
Just hooked up a new 103 and have a question. I'm running HDMI out of my D* box into the Oppo and out to a Projector. Everything is working fine until I try to tune to HBO type channels and I get an error message about copyright protection and I need to switch to component. What gives? Can I not watch these type of channels via HDMI?
Edited by Scott Tucker - 12/29/12 at 3:48pm
post #3816 of 16369
Finally got my 103 today..fed-ex lost it!..was suppose to have it last week..anyway got it all setup no problems..slight issue with my harmony one remote..would not turn off player when switching activity..but got it worked out..beautiful player..awesome Pict & sound. Looks great in the rack with the other hi-end gear!..at first it would not play despicable me..but did firmware update thru wireless net. All works great!..slightly better detail than my old Sony especially in dark scenes!..now its time for a new avr to use as a pre-amp ,looking into marantz 1603 slimline ,anyone out there using one?
post #3817 of 16369
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Originally Posted by Scott Tucker View Post

Just hooked up a new 103 and have a question. I'm running HDMI out of my D* box into the Oppo and out to a Projector. Everything is working fine until I try to tune to HBO type channels and I get an error message about copyright protection and I need to switch to component. What gives? Can I not watch these type of channels via HDMI?

Scott, update to the latest firmware in the OPPO and I believe this problem will be resolved. Go into Setup > Device Setup > Firmware Information and check the end of the "Main" firmware version number.

The latest Official firmware ends 1211. That's available for Network, USB, or burned-disc install. There is also a newer Public Beta firmware, which ends 1220B, that you could download from the OPPO Digital support page and install via either the USB or burned-disc methods.

http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-103/blu-ray-BDP-103-Support.aspx

--Bob
post #3818 of 16369
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Scott, update to the latest firmware in the OPPO and I believe this problem will be resolved. Go into Setup > Device Setup > Firmware Information and check the end of the "Main" firmware version number.
The latest Official firmware ends 1211. That's available for Network, USB, or burned-disc install. There is also a newer Public Beta firmware, which ends 1220B, that you could download from the OPPO Digital support page and install via either the USB or burned-disc methods.
http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-103/blu-ray-BDP-103-Support.aspx
--Bob
Man is this taking some getting used to. I just got the player today, and updated to the latest firmware right away. I changed to output resolution from Auto to 480p and could see HBO. I put it back to auto and I still see it in 1080P, so not really sure what happened.
post #3819 of 16369
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Originally Posted by jcg View Post

I am using the same input on the receiver as the Sony, and this AM I hooked up the long cable directly to the Oppo and unfortunately 1080P still has the same issue. It just seems very odd that an old transceiver chip in the Sony (I think the BDP-BX1 is 5-6 years old now) would work, but a brand new one wouldn't. I guess I can email Oppo to see if the HDMI transceiver chip has any programmable settings.

jcg

Carry the player over near the display and temporarily hook it up with the shorter, OPPO-supplied, HDMI cable to confirm that 1080p is working.

Check your 1080p/24 setting in the OPPO as well. Sending 1080p/24 (for Blu-ray movies) is lower bandwidth on the cable than 1080p/60, but can only be done with a display that accepts 1080p/24.
--Bob
post #3820 of 16369
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Originally Posted by Scott Tucker View Post

Man is this taking some getting used to. I just got the player today, and updated to the latest firmware right away. I changed to output resolution from Auto to 480p and could see HBO. I put it back to auto and I still see it in 1080P, so not really sure what happened.

It's basically a type of HDMI handshake failure. Those specific channels are complaining because they have Copy Protection turned on. HDMI Copy Protection is finicky. It likes to fail.

It should be working in the current firmware, so check that, e.g., your HDMI plugs are fully inserted straight into the sockets with nothing tugging the plug in any direction. Also, sometimes a short HDMI cable (as from the set top box to the OPPO) can cause HDMI problems. Try with a 6 foot HDMI cable which is rated as High Speed (or "for 1080p").
--Bob
post #3821 of 16369
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

It's basically a type of HDMI handshake failure. Those specific channels are complaining because they have Copy Protection turned on. HDMI Copy Protection is finicky. It likes to fail.
It should be working in the current firmware, so check that, e.g., your HDMI plugs are fully inserted straight into the sockets with nothing tugging the plug in any direction. Also, sometimes a short HDMI cable (as from the set top box to the OPPO) can cause HDMI problems. Try with a 6 foot HDMI cable which is rated as High Speed (or "for 1080p").
--Bob

Thanks, I'm using the supplied HDMI cable from the D* box to the Oppo. I'm then running a 22 gauge HDMI from the Oppo 25' to the projector. This is all going to take some getting used to. I've had the same set-up for 10 years, and now starting to upgrade some stuff. I'm aslo trying to not have to upgrade my A/V Receiver just yet, so using my Denon 3805 for sound via 7.1 inputs.
post #3822 of 16369
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Support for GPT partitioning which allows sizes great that 2TB is new with this player. It is supposed to work but we have had conflicting reports.
Ask OPPO support about the status and tell us what they say.
-Bill

Bill I spoke to them and they said it does not support anything greater than 2TB. But in the unofficial Oppo FAq's I saw that it said GPT partitioning is supported. S I am confused.
post #3823 of 16369
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Originally Posted by MurrayW View Post


I got an email from Oppo support that it would eventually get fixed through a firmware update, I just don't know how high this is on their priority list.

Do you have any problems with the DirecTV 3D channel locking up your Oppo?  I have my DirecTV connected to the back HDMI input and whenever I switch to channel 106 (3D channel) it locks up the Oppo.  I have to power down and then power the Oppo back up and then I get sound and the 2 mirrored side-by-side pictures.  Oppo support said they haven't heard of anyone else with these same issues I am describing.

I tried HDMI out 2 and saw that it would pass 3D but did not leave it on long enough to see. Today was the first day I had to connect check out my new 103.

I took the 103 out of my DirecTV loop until they get this patched. I also need to get a HDMI splitter because I will be better served to have two DirecTV feeds. One direct to my receiver and one through the 103. This way I have a way for the wife and kids to just watch TV without having to worry about making sure that the 103 is on the correct source.

Is there a Harmony code to force the input on the 103?
post #3824 of 16369
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Originally Posted by a2k2000 View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Support for GPT partitioning which allows sizes great that 2TB is new with this player. It is supposed to work but we have had conflicting reports.
Ask OPPO support about the status and tell us what they say.
-Bill

Bill I spoke to them and they said it does not support anything greater than 2TB. But in the unofficial Oppo FAq's I saw that it said GPT partitioning is supported. S I am confused.

Maybe the FAQ is wrong. I don't see GPT partitioning mentioned on OPPO's web page or in the manual.

-Bill
post #3825 of 16369
Has any one had any issues with the 103 and the Snow White and The Huntsman disc around the 1 hour 1 minute mark when they first meet the Dwarves all of a sudden dialogue completely cuts out. Now I know it's a player disc issue because when I rewind it the dialogue works fine also this does not happen with any other components that I own and the audio worked fine on my PS3 with the movie. Basically I shut the player off and put it back on and dialog works at that mark now. Has any one had any issue like this with this disc or others. Seems like a hand shake issue of some sort but I don't know kind of weird being it was just the dialog. By the way I have BD Live off for any one curious.
Edited by Semp1 - 12/29/12 at 10:41pm
post #3826 of 16369
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Maybe the FAQ is wrong. I don't see GPT partitioning mentioned on OPPO's web page or in the manual.
-Bill

I have a 2.5 TB drive with GPT partitioning working on the 103. It will read partitions of 2 TB's and below. Therefore I could have a 2 TB partition and a .5 TB partition. I have it partitioned as 1.25 and 1.25 at the moment. You can use a drive larger than 2 TB's if it is partitioned as GPT and as long as each partition on that drive is 2 TB's or smaller.
post #3827 of 16369
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Originally Posted by Semp1 View Post

Has any one had any issues with the 103 and the Snow White and The Huntsman disc around the 1 hour 1 minute mark when they first meet the Dwarves all of a sudden dialogue completely cuts out. Now I know it's a player disc issue because when I rewind it the dialogue works fine also this does not happen with any other components that I own and the audio worked fine on my PS3 with the movie. Basically I shut the player off and put it back on and dialog works at that mark now. Has any one had any issue like this with this disc or others. Seems like a hand shake issue of some sort but I don't know kind of weird being it was just the dialog. By the way I have BD Live off for any one curious.

I played the rental version of that just last night without issue.

The dialogue cut out or all the audio?

This is with HDMI audio? First thing is to try it with LPCM rather than Bitstream.

-Bill
post #3828 of 16369
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Originally Posted by liltalkm View Post


I tried HDMI out 2 and saw that it would pass 3D but did not leave it on long enough to see. Today was the first day I had to connect check out my new 103.
I took the 103 out of my DirecTV loop until they get this patched. I also need to get a HDMI splitter because I will be better served to have two DirecTV feeds. One direct to my receiver and one through the 103. This way I have a way for the wife and kids to just watch TV without having to worry about making sure that the 103 is on the correct source.
Is there a Harmony code to force the input on the 103?


So your oppo does not lock up when tuning to channel 106 from another non-3D channel?

post #3829 of 16369
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

I played the rental version of that just last night without issue.
The dialogue cut out or all the audio?
This is with HDMI audio? First thing is to try it with LPCM rather than Bitstream.
-Bill

Yes it's HDMI audio and its bit streamed. it was as if the center channel shut off. But that did not happen because when I rewound , it worked fine. Once I shut the player down and turned it back on it worked fine. I don't know I'm not too concerned just odd behavior.
post #3830 of 16369
Hi, I am in the process of setting up my new OPPO. So far it is looking fantastic! Is there a way to turn off the auto load/play function when loading a bluray? Presently when I am at the home screen and put in a bluray it automatically loads it. In addition, if a bluray is left in the player it automatically loads it the next time the OPPO is turned on. I did see the auto play mode option in th setup menu but it appears to only be relevant to CD's.

Also, is the Dynamic Range Control Function (On or Off) only relevant when outputting audio LPCM and not Bitstream. Thanks!
post #3831 of 16369
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Originally Posted by hilgy View Post

Hi, I am in the process of setting up my new OPPO. So far it is looking fantastic! Is there a way to turn off the auto load/play function when loading a bluray? Presently when I am at the home screen and put in a bluray it automatically loads it. In addition, if a bluray is left in the player it automatically loads it the next time the OPPO is turned on. I did see the auto play mode option in th setup menu but it appears to only be relevant to CD's.

Also, is the Dynamic Range Control Function (On or Off) only relevant when outputting audio LPCM and not Bitstream. Thanks!

There is no way to turn off Auto Play for movie discs. I personally agree with you that the user should be able to control this, but OPPO is convinced -- based on lots of customer contact with their previous players -- that always doing Auto Play for movie discs is the correct behavior.

Dynamic Range Control in the OPPO applies when movie audio is being decoded from Bitstream to LPCM. This happens when you select a Bitstream track from a Blu-ray disc and use either HDMI LPCM output, or Analog output.

If you select an LPCM track from a Blu-ray disc, or if you use HDMI Bitstream output of a Bitstream track, Dynamic Range Control does not apply.

Note however that if you send a Bitstream to your AVR, there is likely a similar setting in the AVR that applies while the AVR itself is doing the necessary decoding of that Bitstream to LPCM.
--Bob
post #3832 of 16369

I tried to update my 105 with the latest beta on my USB stick but Oppo fails to see valid firmware. What am i doing wrong? The stick is 4GB and FAT32 formatted. It worked fine for the 95.

 

On the Oppo site, it only shows 1 file sized at 99,530KB (BDP10x.BIN). The FW i downloaded has many more files and the BDP10x.BIN is of a different size(97,416KB).

 

 

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post #3833 of 16369
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

I tried to update my 105 with the latest beta on my USB stick but Oppo fails to see valid firmware. What am i doing wrong? The stick is 4GB and FAT32 formatted. It worked fine for the 95.

On the Oppo site, it only shows 1 file sized at 99,530KB (BDP10x.BIN). The FW i downloaded has many more files and the BDP10x.BIN is of a different size(97,416KB).

I'm not seeing the BIN file in your image. You're not unpacking the download somehow? Just leave it at the top level of the stick. Should be just one file.

-Bill
post #3834 of 16369
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Originally Posted by Rhythmx View Post

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Originally Posted by jcg View Post

Just got the 103 hooked up and I'm getting a snowy screen, and I've tried HDMI 1 and HDMI 2. I have a 50 ft HDMI cable that goes from my receiver under the house and back up the Panny projector. I am able to get into settings and if I change the output to 1080i (vs 1080p) the picture isn't snowy anymore. My previous player is a Sony BDP-BXI and it works fine on 1080p. I have a pretty decent 50ft HDMI cable that I got from bluejeans, but this sure seems like the problem. Is there any setting in the Oppo to put out a higher voltage signal over HDMI or adjust it in some way?
jcg

Sounds like a cable issue/Length. You can probably use a signal extender booster to help. Gefen makes some good stuff, and I am sure you can find some stuff on Monoprice as well. Blue Jeans has some new cables that may work also.

Monoprice has some UltraSlim Redmere HDMI cables with built-in EQ for long distances up to 60ft. I use them and solved my cable problem...and this is using 1080p/60, 36-bits Deep Color mode.

 

http://www.monoprice.com/products/search.asp?keyword=redmere


Edited by dmusoke - 12/30/12 at 12:42pm
post #3835 of 16369
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

I played the rental version of that just last night without issue.
The dialogue cut out or all the audio?
This is with HDMI audio? First thing is to try it with LPCM rather than Bitstream.
-Bill

I just had that happen a few hours ago as I was watching the Aviator. Audio cut out for about 2 full seconds and came back on. I am bit streaming to my Onkyo Tx-nr5009 via Hdmi. I thought it might have been due to fingerprints on the disc. After the movie was finished, I inspected the disc. It did have some light fingerprints on it but not sure if that was the cause.
post #3836 of 16369
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Originally Posted by darkphader View Post

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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

I'm not seeing the BIN file in your image. -Bill

It's there, he just has the (braindead) default MS setup that doesn't display file extensions. IMO, one of the dumbest default display decisions any OS developer has ever made.

Chris

I unpacked the compressed TAR file using WinRAR and i got those multiple files. What is wrong with my setup? The BDP10x.BIN file is there as darkphader indicated. Anyone successfully implemented the upgrade?

post #3837 of 16369
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

I tried to update my 105 with the latest beta on my USB stick but Oppo fails to see valid firmware. What am i doing wrong? The stick is 4GB and FAT32 formatted. It worked fine for the 95.

On the Oppo site, it only shows 1 file sized at 99,530KB (BDP10x.BIN). The FW i downloaded has many more files and the BDP10x.BIN is of a different size(97,416KB).


1000



It looks like you "unzipped" the downloaded BDP10X.bin file. You don't do that for 103/105 firmware installs. It's not like the USB install for the older players where you had to unzip the downloaded file to get the UPG folder to put on your USB stick.

Delete that extraneous stuff on your USB stick, download a fresh copy of the USB install, and put that single file (BDP10X.bin) on the USB stick without doing anything else to it. There's no UPG folder or anything else. Just that one file, as downloaded, placed at the top level of the USB stick. The firmware pieces are self extracted from that single file during the install.
--Bob
post #3838 of 16369
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

I tried to update my 105 with the latest beta on my USB stick but Oppo fails to see valid firmware. What am i doing wrong? The stick is 4GB and FAT32 formatted. It worked fine for the 95.

On the Oppo site, it only shows 1 file sized at 99,530KB (BDP10x.BIN). The FW i downloaded has many more files and the BDP10x.BIN is of a different size(97,416KB).


1000

 

It looks like you "unzipped" the downloaded BDP10X.bin file. You don't do that for 103/105 firmware installs. It's not like the USB install for the older players where you had to unzip the downloaded file to get the UPG folder to put on your USB stick.

Delete that extraneous stuff on your USB stick, download a fresh copy of the USB install, and put that single file (BDP10X.bin) on the USB stick without doing anything else to it. There's no UPG folder or anything else. Just that one file, as downloaded, placed at the top level of the USB stick. The firmware pieces are self extracted from that single file during the install.
--Bob

 

Yup ...that was it. Somehow, WinRAR inferred that the BIN file was a compressed file and went on ahead and tagged it as a .RAR file. I then de-compressed it thinking it would be similar to the 93/95 way of doing things. Thanks for the help.

post #3839 of 16369
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

It looks like you "unzipped" the downloaded BDP10X.bin file.

Good catch.

Unchecking "hide known file extensions" while always a good idea might have been helpful in this case.
post #3840 of 16369
^^ Reading the instructions wouldn't hurt either. wink.gifbiggrin.gif
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