Official OPPO BDP-103 Owner's Thread - Page 129

I am looking in to buying a new blu ray player.What is the difference between the 93 and 103.The 103 is $499 new and the 93 is between $499 and $1000.I just want a high quality blu ray player that can stream pandora and netflix.

The 103 is the replacement for the 93. Specs for both players are on the Oppo website, but the big change is a newer, faster, dual-core processor on the 103 with improved video processing.

See the FAQ: How is the BDP-103 different from the BDP-93?

As was said, the BDP-93 is out of production now.

-Bill

Hey guys,
I currently use PS3 to watch Blue ray and 3D on 130" screen using Sony VPL-95ES. The reason I mentioned devices is because of 130" size. Projector shows great pic quality for Blue Ray. Now I'm wondering what is it I'm missing since I'm using PS3 to watch 1080P/3D. Also I have a good sound setup as well.
So basically
1 - What is the difference in between PS3 vs BDP 103 Video and Audio?

Also how is the video conversion on BDP 103. I have netflix streaming service and if I stream that is not in HD, it gets blurry when there is a dark scene. Can BDP up-convert streaming video?

Thanks

It won't upscale because the video quality depends on what is available on the site and your internet speed. I will say that the Oppo has a picture improvement over the PS3. I noticed it right away when I got it hooked up, and my wife did too. Audio...I don't really think there is an improvement there, but it's just sending bits to the AVR thru HDMI so I doubt you will notice a difference there, I didn't.

So if I GOT the BDP-105 and connected it via HDMI for picture and via analogue for audio will that result in better AQ?
I'm kinda having the same problem and I want to replace my PS3 with an oppo BDP-103 or BDP-105,but a lot are telling me to go with 103 and connected via HDMI or go with 105 and connected via analogue.

I'm kinda lost here and I AQ is important to me,I'm currently using Denon AVR-2808.
any help would be appreciated.

You could go that route. I would think that unless you are a 'critical listener' you probably won't tell the difference in sound between the two during normal listening. The way it's put together, the 105 should have better sound, but I would say the regular joe isn't going to hear the difference.

One reason to consider the 105 over the 103 is audio free of HDMI handshake issues. The new OPPO units appear susceptible to HDMI handshake issues, even when the HDMI issues are before or after the OPPO in the HDMI chain.

The two analogue outs (RCA or balanced) on the Oppo 105 seem to resolve this completely by bypassing the HDMI chain as discussed in the Oppo 105 forum.

I am having a terrible time losing audio due to HDMI handshake issues on my 103 with deep color off and the video set to 1080P. Have used the Oppo supplied HDMI cable along with other 1.3 and 1.4 HDMI cables; 1 meter, 2 meter, and other lengths. The problem does not arise when using other than the Oppo 103 BluRay.

I am connected DTV (native mode) to Oppo to both Sony 1080P tv (not 3D) and Denon 3312CI receiver. Receiver then to 5.1 speakers.

Am about to try FR/FL preamp outs on the 103 to amp to 'audiophile' speakers in order to understand if this will resolve the problem for stereo out on the Oppo 103.

Not sure how to handle surrounds and subwoofer in this case as I would like to use the AVR preamp-out for subwoofer and the internal receiver amps for the other speakers.

I love the OPPO 103 but am most frustrated with the HDMI handshake issues. It is hard not to point-the-finger at the 103 when direct replacement with other Blu-Ray/DVD players (without any other changes) fail to exhbit this issue. Although none of these other BluRay/DVD players have dual HDMI out.

I have read this entire 103 thread and there are some excellent comments on how to help with the handshake issues. In my case these recommendations do temporarily resolve the HDMI handshake but none have been long term. Powering down helps but is a pain and, in my case, sometimes different components must be powerd down. Any help would be absolutely welcome.

Is there a single location on the forum where all of the potential HDMI handshake solutions can be found?

Terry

^ Terry, I suggest you call or email OPPO Tech Support with the details of what's happening and what you've tried and let them help you diagnose this. You may have a faulty unit. There are also known issues with some AVRs -- some with workarounds like the new, Blank HDMI 2 setting in the OPPO.
--Bob

Does a oppo 103 have a better on board decoder than marantz 7005

looking at getting a parasound p7 and letting the oppo do the decoding, or am i better off with the marantz.

I no big fan of all audyssey setting

If by decoding you mean hi-res Dolby and DTS over HDMI there should be no difference. Honestly for movies I'd stick with HDMI. If you are serious about going analog you should be looking at the 105.

Thanks Bob. I will do so today if they are open.

Your comments and those of a few others are truly helpful and authoritative. Genuinely appreciate your knowledge and guidance!

Terry

Weird, I've never had an audio handshake issue with mine. I'd definitely call them and see what's up.

Yea, no such problems with audio loss here either.

Hello,

I got the BDP-103 player yesterday and the video quality is great !

What is the best configuration or recomended settings for the HDMI Options - Color Space & Deep Color?

Here is My setup:

OPPO HDMI 1 - VPL-VW95 progector
OPPO HDMI 2 - Pioneer LX70 Recevier

Hey Guys...

I need help please. I dont know what has changed but my OPPO 103 will no longer output 3d. I am running it through HDMI to my Integra 50.4, (direct usually but no mode changes have helped) and into a LG55LM9600.

I believe that is must have happened after a firmware update as the unit used to play 3D very well. Now it is rebooting my system every few seconds with an apparent change in resolution. I have reset it to factory defaults and tried again but still no go. The A/V is showing an input change and on my remote (iphone) i can see that the resolution is changing and is outside of normal display parameters... even though I am forcing it to output 1080p. At the same time the white light on the front of the OPPO which is indicating 3D out is coming on and off.... it is like it tries to output 3D then craps itself.

Anyway, suggestions please. I am going to try and see if I can roll back the firmware to a previous version.

Cheers

So does the analogue output provide's better sound quality than HDMI?
If HDMI,it's 103,If analogue it's 105

IMHO, this question is best asked in the projector sub-forum. What you really want to know is the best colorspace and deep color (if any) for your projector. Once you know that you can set the Oppo appropriately. In addition, if your projector has already been calibrated you will probably want to set it to the same colorspace/deep color used for the calibration.

The 105 is primarily aimed at music lovers who already own very high end analog systems. To tell the difference between HDMI or 103 analog and the 105's analog output, one would need to have golden ears, golden electronics, and a golden room. For those of us who ask if the difference in quality is worth the cost, we probably won't be able to tell the difference.

Try "3D Output" set to "Forced".

If still no good, try connecting the player directly to the display to see if you get the same thing.

This is with a Blu-ray 3D disc, not input from some other source?

What do you mean it is "rebooting your system"?

-Bill

I own a Denon AVR-2808 and it has analogue output's a play's DD-HD and DTS-MA,I know I'm asking a lot but I just want what's best if the 105 will make a difference when connected via analogue then I'll go with it,if not then I'll go with 103 and save the extra money.
I've been told that the 105 when connected via analogue will enhance the AQ of the AVR.

Depends as was previously stated. Do you plan to use Audyssey? If so stick with103 and HDMI as you will be using the Denons DACs. Personally for movies I'd stick to HDMI as I said earlier, but if you do a lot of critical music listening and don't plan on using Audyssey you may want to consider the 105, although I would take a long look at the rest of my equipment chain first.

Does this only happen when your running though the OPPO via an external HDMI source?

We listen to everything on our current Oppo through analog, the mutlichannel analog sounds far superior than HDMI with or without correction.

However I do not plan on running anything through the 103, is that only where the problem is?
Edited by Eric_Connelly - 12/31/12 at 1:55pm

The Audyssey in AVR is switched on,and no I'll only use it for movie viewing only ( blu-ray's) nothing else.
But if the 105 enhances the AQ on my AVR when connected via analogue the why not go with it?but if it'll provide the same AQ if connected via analogue or HDMI as the 103,then save the cash and go with 103.
I know I'm repeating my self,since I'm from Kuwait and there's no oppo dealer in my country forums is my only reference.
So bare with and all help is appreciated.

Hi Bill,

I will give it a go. Thanks for the post I will give it a go. By "re-booting" I mean that my TV turns itself off and on and changes resolution while my A/V is showing a total switch of input modes. I will let you know if forced works for me.

Thanks NW, TK01, FMD,

After reading and testing, I don't seem to have a file share issue and both my OPPOs can see the asset upnp and SMB and hard drives and folders on my PC - thank goodness. My main music .flac files with .flac extensions will not play after I point to it's folder with my .flac files in it and this may be the key as to how my computer can read/play these files. I do have dbpoweramp Asset and it is shown on the OPPO as well but it comes up in folder structure. I need it as a file structure "playlist or folder" so that I dont have to keep clicking on the folder to get to the next song from the OPPO remote, (should be automatic). I may be fundalmentally messing up the way I play those .flac song files saved in my folder as a FLAC file. When I try to "open or play" a song on my PC it states in a dbpoweramp box - "Do you want to allow the following program to make changes to this computer....." Perhaps I am not enabling a .flac extension to play? Can someone point me to where ths can be enabled and read by the OPPO?, as I am getting closer.
Dave

Dude,this is what you do. Order the 105 you have 30 days to decide if its worth it. YOU have to hear it. If its not what you were hoping for send it back and get the 103!

But living in Kuwait, he may get screwed on the postage and length of time it takes to get to him.

Sent the following and received the stated reply from OPPO today. OPPO service continues to be superb as their phone message states they are closed both today and tomorrow. But someone was 'watching the store' even while they are off for the holidays. Pretty great IMHO:

Terry,

Issues related to audio and video handshaking errors with cable and satellite boxes are known and are being investigated. We have seen some set top boxes receive upgrades which have resolved these HDCP errors. We will also be releasing firmware on our own which will address these issues as well.

If you have not done so already, upgrade the firmware of the player to the latest Beta Firmware release (https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-103/BDP103-firmware-38-1220B.aspx). Beyond this, you will want to continue to use the set top box direct to your receiver for audio and video and wait for a firmware release to correct this issue.

Best Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.
2629B Terminal Blvd.
Mountain View, CA 94043
Service@oppodigital.com
Tel: 650-961-1118
Fax: 650-961-1119

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Purchase date was October 2, 2012 via Oppo advance purchase.

Having severe HDMI handshake audio drop-out issues.

Am an AVS Forum member and have read the entire 103 forum. Also posted to the forum. Bob Pariseau recommended I contact you direct (posts 3858 & 3859).

Setup is DirecTV HR-21 HDMI to BDP-103 HDMI 'rear in' to (a) Sony KDL-52EX701 1080P 2D TV via HDMI1 out and (b) Denon 3312CI AVR HDMI2 out. HDMI out is set to Split A/V. Deep Color is off. DirecTV is set to Native. The Oppo 103, DTV HR21, and the Denon 3312CI have been updated to the latest available non-beta software.

Nothing has resulted in stable audio via HDMI. I have used the Oppo included HDMI cable, with various 1.3 and 1.4 HDMI cables of 1 & 2 meters.

Suspect the HDMI is fine from DirecTV to 103 because when using only FR/FL pre-outs to a separate amp and speakers the audio is stable although there are the initial BDP-103 'pops' that accompany this arrangement.

Alternatively, HDMI 'rear in' from DirecTV HR21 with HDMI2 out to the Denon 3312CI and onto speakers using the Denon internal amps is where the loss of audio occurs. So I am confused on how to next proceed in diagnosing and resolving the problem.

There is a fairly lengthy pause in both video and audio when switching from/to any DirecTV channel. Both audio and video are separate HDMI outs from the BDP-103.

Video from Oppo 103 to the Sony TV is excellent and stable once established. The video does not disappear when the audio drops out.

With the exception of the audio instability via HDMI, I am delighted with the unit but regret not waiting for the 105 due to (i) the HDMI audio drop out issues and (ii) the fact that I have audiophile amps and speakers I want to use in both stereo and a 5.1 surround arrangements.

When it works, the system sounds really nice with the lesser non-audiophile surround speakers that are in place. But the system sounds great in 2.0 stereo via the pre-outs.

1. Want to use 2.1 setup out of the BDP-103 without preamp. Is this possible?

Suspect the 105 sounds phenomenal via the dedicated analogue outs!

2. Did not find the 'HDMI2 blank' option in setup but am using Split A/V so maybe that is why.

3. Am eager to receive your assistance in solving the HDMI audio drop out issues.

I plan to change out the Sony TV with an Epson 8350 front projector but am reluctant to make this modification until the HDMI audio issues are resolved.

Apologize for any typos. Thanks. Terry

UPDATE NOTE; I will update to the latest beta and temporarily switch the DTV unit direct into the Denon 3312CI. Any other suggestions would be appreciated.

A little help here on some older topics.

I am very happy with my Oppo 103 (retired both a Sony PS3 and a Dune Base 3 media player).

1) Using the Oppo somewhat as front end. I have a TiVo 3 and is there any advantage to having it go through the Oppo 103? If anyone has done this, any settings on either Oppo or TiVo to adjust for optimum use?

2) I have my system based around the Oppo 103, Marantz 1602, Panasonic VT50 plasma, TiVo and NAS. When turning on the Oppo, it nicely talks to the VT50 and Marantz and sets itself up for usage. However, when turning off the Oppo, it will not turn off the TV which in turn turns off the Marantz. Any thoughts or is this normal?

3) HDMI 1 and 2 OUT - Is there any real advantage to send video directly to the TV and the other HDMI to the receiver as opposed to just single HDMI to receiver for both audio and video?

4) I have moderate size library of music on my NAS ranging from Flac 192/24, Apple Lossless, Apple compressed (AAC) on down. When I use iTunes or similar, I get my music from the archived CD in the proper order, on the Oppo it does not seem to have an order other than alphabetical. The NAS runs Twonky Media. Any help or suggestions appreciated.

Btw, after years and years of all sorts of electronics, I find that the packaging of the Oppo 103 to be about the best I have ever seen/opened. Truly thoughtful and elegant.