Official OPPO BDP-103 Owner's Thread - Page 130

The audio signal has to be converted from digital to analog somewhere in your system. When you use analog audio outs from the Oppo player, you are using the audio DACs in the Oppo. When you use HDMI output, you are using the audio DACs in the AVR. Which sounds better depends on which has the better DACs, the player or the receiver. The 105 has better audio DACs than the 103, and should sound better than both the 103 and your receiver. But it also depends on your other equipment (if you have cheap speakers and cheap AVR, then you won't hear the difference). If money is no object, I would go with the 105 since it absolutely has better audio DACs and should sound better. If you use HDMI for audio, then get the 103 since both players will sound the same since the AVR is converting the digital signal to analog, not the player. Hope this helps.

So will the 103. Based on what you haven't written, the 105 is probably overkill. The issue is, can you tell the difference between the 103 and 105 using your ears, your room and your electronics.

The Audyssey version in your Denon 2808 may introduce more errors than it will correct. In fact, I just had a Denon 3312 (supposed to have a much improved version of Audyssey) calibrated by UMR, who is well known here at AVS. He found a major error in the sub woofer setup that Audyssey was responsible for, and overall his calibration was better. UMR does outstanding calibrations in both audio and video. He doesn't have a high opinion of Audyssey.

If the price difference is not important to you, go for the 105, and then build up the rest of your audio system. If critical listening is not something that you are into, go with the 103 and be happy.
Edited by htwaits - 12/31/12 at 5:06pm

Ohhh I didnt realize he was in Kuwait.

If you're using Audyssey and want to continue doing so, then there's absolutely no reason to consider using analog outputs at all - either on the 103 or a 105. The 105 really only makes sense if you want to use the analog outputs, don't do any external processing to those outputs that requires a conversion back to digital (Audyssey would require a conversion back to digital), and if you have excellent amplification and speakers. Based on what you've said your equipment and goals are, I'd recommend going with the 103 and forget about the 105.

I've got my Oppo 103 a couple a weeks back and only been able to test it out during the Xmas period.

It's an amazing piece of kit, but I'm having a few issues playing off a USB drive, or more exactly, having issues refreshing the content of the USB drive.

If I plug in a USB drive for the first time, it's fine, all the content appears as it should, but if I remove the drive, add/remove some movies and put it back into the Oppo, it will show me the old content from when it was first inserted.

Is there any way to stop this?? I've tried turning off the caching and deleting the cache folder, but no luck.

It's a small USB powered NTFS drive, nothing special/complex about it. No read/write error when checked in Windows.

Thanks for any help in advance!



p.s. I'm also having issues connecting to a Windows 7/8 shared drive, but I'll save that issues for another time.

Welcome to AVSForum.

That's peculiar. I don't recall it being reported before.

Does the old view of the drive persist even after restarting the player?

Are you running the current 1220 firmware?

-Bill

Happy new year everybody!!!

I'm thinking about getting myself an Oppo BDP-103 in a couple of weeks, but I have some questions for the owners. My current Oppo DV-980h is able to play SACD burnt onto DVD-R after applying an alternate firmware. Does the 103 is able to play those discs with stock firmware? I'll be attaching a 1TB drive with Hi-Res FLAC files (24-96 and 24-192). How good is the audio playback over analog? I realize with my current 2.1 setup and intended use it would be better to get me the 105 but I can't afford it.

Just tested something,and I don't know if it's worth mentioning,I turned of the Audyssey on my AVR and played some clip's from movie's,then turned it back on and watched the same clip's again.
I immediately noticed the difference is Sound,with Audssey ON it's clear,thinker and stronger,with Audssey OFF it's clear but lower,the PS3 was connected via HDMI and I didn't touch the volume,after that I turned Audssey back ON.
So my questions are:
-Was that suppose to happen or is there something wrong with my collaboration?
-If I get the 105 and connected it via analogue will I get the same sound or better than when connected via HDMI.
If the 105 will enhance the sound when connected via analogue then I'll go with it,if not or the same then I'll go with the 103.
This is my System:
Receiver: Denon AVR-2808
C speaker: Definitive Technology ProCenter 1000
FL & FR: Paradigm monitor 9
SL,SR,BL & BR: Definitive Technology Mythos Gem XL
SW: paradigm UltraCube 10
Screen: Samsung LCD
Player: PS3
So your thought's please on what you think and recommend,and I apologize for asking the same question's over an over but really appreciate the help.

If you're finding that Audyssey makes a big improvement in your system, then I think you've answered your question - get the BDP-103 and put the $700 saved toward something else. Despite what some may say, the difference in the analog outputs on the 103 vs 105 isn't going to be anywhere close to the difference between Audyssey on and off in most cases. IMHO, you'd probably be better off spending the extra money to get matching speakers (same brand / series) across the front.

I've searched through this and other forums, but would appreciate some confirmation. I picked up a 103 yesterday to replace a Pan 210. Based on what I've read, running satellite through the Oppo should clean up the signal. Therefore, this is my current rig:

Pan 55VT50,
Oppo 103,
Dish Hopper,
Denon 4310 AVR (does NOT pass 3D signal)
and an XBOX 360.

It sounds like the cleanest path will be

(1) for satellite, Dish Hopper HDMI out to Oppo HDMI in, Oppo HDMI Out 1 to AVR, AVR HDMI out to VT50 (Oppo Out 1 permits QDEO processing, correct?);
(2) for Blu-ray, digital optical out to Denon and HDMI Out 2 directly to VT50 for Blu-ray; and
(3) for XBOX, I just have HDMI out from XBOX into AVR. Unless I switched the order of the Oppo in the chain, I couldn't make use of Oppo's processing for XBOX anyway.

Does that sound right? I'd be grateful for any comments, tips.

Happy New Year!

I have been using the OPPO BDP-103 for several weeks and have had few problems. I have several W7 systems on my home network all with the same User Name and Password and the BDP-103 finds all of them. But...it will only let me log into one of them. It refuses to accept the User Name and Password for a second system. It is not a major problem since the one system I have logged into successfully is my home server with all the Music and Picture I want to access. Is this a limitation of the BDP-103 or am I missing something?

Welcome to AVSForum.

Are you running the current 1220 firmware? Although it is not mentioned in the release notes, I found SMB authentication improved in this update. This is for Linux/Samba in my case.

If you search the thread for "SMB" you will find recent posts on what people have done to get SMB on Windows working.

It is a new feature for this player and is still being improved, so it is worth trying each new firmware for changes.

-Bill

You are a lucky guy. I have 2 W7 PC, the 103 lists both twice under network but no matter what I do, no userid and passwork works. I have tried everything suggested here to no avail. SMB is working fine with my WDTV LIVE, no userid or password is asked.

I am new to the home theater venture and feel like a chicken with no head.

Purchased oppo BDP-103 few weeks ago along with Onkyo TX-NR818, mirage nanosat 5.1 speaker system, benq w1070 projector with 150" screen, motorola 3510m cable box, rocketfish hdmi wireless sender for my sony tv. Atv 3 and my pc.
I am unable to find the suitable hookups for these equipments so that i can use everything with less hassel.
I love the oppo picture corrections for my cable box over my onkyo receiver.
Onkyo does have Audyssey MultEQ XT32 which i am impressed.
Good sounding speakers for my room and my taste.
All my cables are hdmi 1.4.
Benq projector, oppo bdp-103, rocektfish wireless hdmi reciver and transmitter and onkyo reciever are HDMI CEC compatible.
I would like to use the same cable box and want to be able to send hdmi audio and video signal to my sony tv wirelessely when projector is not in use and at that time i do not need my onkyo receiver to be on or sound from mirage speakers. Just want to operate sony tv on it's own.
I do have few ipads and iphones at home to take advanage of the app remotes and the only one works better is ORemote Because it also pulls up the oppo remote when oppo is connected with onkyo and is picked in onkyo settings as oppo bdp player. The rest of the apps are not even close it. One doesnt have to have tv on in order to liston to the audio only because Oremote shows all the play list or audio info in side the app. Along with all the audio and video settings with shortcuts. Best 5 bucks i spent.
Can some one please help me with right connections?
I have tried motorola cable box ----> oppo hdmi back----> oppo hdmi 1 out ---> receiver bdp-in hdmi---> projector hdmi 1.
I have used above setting alternatively switching onkyo in place of oppo and with onkyo set to video signal passing direct everything works fine other than one quirk and that is that i have to slect manually HDMI IN THE BACK oppo input when turning on the oppo. So either way the process is not automatic. Not sure if it can be set automatically.
I am not been able to take advanage of the split A/V of oppo yet. I tried few times but no audio through my onkyo. My projector do have dual hdmi inputs.
The most trouble i am having is sending motorola catv audio and video signal wirelessly to my sony tv. It gets the picture and audio fine when connected directly from motorola box --> rocketfish sender --> sony tv, but when connected through the oppo or onkyo using their 2nd hdmi out --> rocketfish wireless hdmi-->> sony tv, the sony tv does not get audio. Unless i select SEND AUDIO TO TV in onkyo, but then onkyo also starts sending all the audio to projector it self too and no sound on Onkyo mirage speakers.

Slimoli,

My apologies in advance if this falls under the already tried "everything suggested" category.

Is your WDTV Live connected to your network by cable, or by wireless?

Have you tried turning off all of your incoming Windows firewall settings temporarily on one of the machines?

The "both twice"... do the two Windows 7 machines have ethernet network connections, and wireless network connections enabled?

If trying to connect to the Windows machines over ethernet, turn off the wireless connections while attempting to connect from the Oppo, reboot everything then check that you are only seeing one possible network connection on the Windows machines. Or, turn off the ethernet connections on the Windows 7 machines if trying to connect by wireless.

Work with 1 of the Windows 7 machine at a time and see if anything you change causes a different error/result from the Oppo between the two PCs.

the plex streamer from w7 or w8 pc works most successfully. it shows up in oppo. the only problem is that some times oppo refreshes file lists if you have more that 140 video files in the video folder, not sure why? i couldnt get anything else to get working on it

I have a similar setup with a non 3d Onkyo AVR and use the Split AV method.

1. Oppo HDMI 1 out to TV and Oppo HDMI 2 out to AVR. (Oppo HDMI 1 out has best video processing.)
2. For Dish I am presently running Dish HDMI out to AVR and then AVR HDMI out to TV. (I have a Dish VIP 722 and may experiment with HDMI out from Dish Receiver to Oppo HDMI in for better processing however the Dish 722 currently doesn't offer a native option so I am not sure if the Oppo will make much of a difference in PQ.) If your hopper has an option to set Native to "on" I would experiment with it a little ,
3. Run Xbox HDMI out to AVR( if you want to utilize any 3D from XBOX connect it directly to TV and run optical to AVR. (I am currently connecting my PS3 the latter way for 3d gaming)

I have the same issue when using the Oppo as a video processor. On system power-up, I always need to switch to the correct input to watch cable via Tivo, since I have the Tivo connected directly to the Oppo to take advantage of the excellent processing. The only obvious current solution is to always leave the Oppo turned on 24/7, which isn't a very good fix.

I have my universal remote macro programmed to turn all equipment on/off with one button push, which is a very user friendly feature for a semi-complicated home theater system. I tried adding the input change to the macro, but even with a pause built in to the macro, the Oppo doesn't turn on quick enough to take the command.

It would be nice if Oppo would implement a "last active" or similar option in a firmware update, which would remain on that input when the power is cycled to make watching TV more user friendly. The wife (and therefore me) would be much happier!!!

Of course it will not lower the bandwidth on the entire nework, but neither will you ever get more out of the Oppo than 100 Mb. Somehow I read your original post to indicate that you thought that hooking the Oppo up to a gigbit network would make it faster. Let me refine my point.. In any point to point ehternet connection you will alwayws be limited by the slowest connection speed of a decive in that path...
in that specific connection. There will never be Gigabit speeds between the Oppo and any other device. You will simply use less of the available bandwidth in the GIG network. Packet timing will not change. The Gigabit rating is for capacity or bandwidth.

Phil

has anyone else here tried the 2D to 3D conversion for the movie "Transformers Revenge Of The Fallen" ? i was just blown away! if nobody told me it wasn't native 3d,i wouldn't have been able to tell the difference! it is that spectacular especially "The Big Screen Edition" Simply amazing!

Ken429

Thanks for your observation. I have been trying to narrow down my own issues. Your statement confirmed my issues as I thought it was just me - user error. Now I know this is just a simple limitation and can be worked around or worked out by OPPO. When I sign in on my PC under my network I can get to my hard drives via OPPO. When I sign in on my wifes networklike you with my PC - OPPO shows up as a Workgroup and asks for a password which I dont know what to do in this case. Thanks for that confirmation as I thought I was going batty.

Dave

I thought about purchasing this player this year. I've heard alot of great things about this player on this thread and in online reviews. Yes its build quality and performance is better than other bd players that cost lower and higher. Looking at the firmware updates its seems like alot of things wrong for a bd player that's so highly praised.

Kemiza,

We thrive on and anticipate firmware on this site as OPPO is so good at it. OPPO just introduces more and more robust features and fixes what the community wants fixed with their hardware which keep us on the leading edge. I couldn't possibly even consider a diferent Blu ray.
Dave

And it's the nature of threads like this that people tend to focus on problems, because they know they can get help here. Often the problems are nothing more than user confusion, or setup issues external to the player.

You'll find very few people (fortunately) making regular, repeated posts of the form, "Used the player to do normal stuff today, and once again it worked flawlessly".
--bob

Try setting Quick Start mode to get the player live faster. (Setup > Device Setup)
--Bob

Typically this happens because you have not properly "ejected" the USB drive before removing it from the computer. That means the directory entries for the last set of file changes you made may not have gotten written to the USB drive before you pulled it -- i.e., they are cached in the PC's memory but only get written to disc when you tell the PC to "eject" the drive prior to unplugging it. When connected to the OPPO, it still sees the old, out-dated directory information -- effectively the USB drive is now corrupted.
--Bob

Pliot20,

Previous to this Quick Start feature I programmed my Harmony One for a 10 second delay. With Quickstart I went back to my Harmony One and took out 5 seconds. Needless to say Quickstart is an added value for the -103.

Thank you envirogeek. I have everything hard-wired through gigabit Ethernet. No wireless is involved. The 103 sees everything it's supposed to see, my W7 PC is shown twice, one for DLNA and other for SMB, as it should be. I also tried my wife's W7 PC, same result. The 103 asks for a userid and password and nothing works. tried to turn off all firwalls, created a specific user account for the oppo, with and without password, tried to use Guest, my own W7 admin userid, blank, nothing works, always getting the same msg about invalid userid/passwork.

On the W7 PC I have shares to "Everyone", "oppo" (the account I created), security settings to allow Everyone, tried password protected sharing on and off, W7 recognizes the oppo device and it is "allowed" to access the shares. It is something related to the authentication that is not working. All my IP addresses are fixed, on the same group. The only thing I have not yet tried is to configure the 103 to access the network wireless but all my devices are hard-wired and access the PC without any problem.

New and very happy owner here. Blown away at the performance of the 103. Sound is better, video is better and Netflix is much better. Really impressed at how it get the most out of my Projector. I have a High end PC and it really does outperform it.

What I would really like to do is try it out on my 2K(2560x1440p) monitor. Problem is my monitor only has a DVI-D cable and even with an adapter not sure if HDMI will handle that resolution.
So does anyone know if it is possible to run a 2K signal with HDMI, really want to try out the 2K upscaling of the OPPO 103.