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post #391 of 16416
Greetings,
Where are you guys finding this for sale?
Oppo site only has a link for notification on availability.
post #392 of 16416
We all had our names on a pre-sale list offered by Oppo via email. It's not officially available to the public although you should expect it very soon.
post #393 of 16416
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Originally Posted by sharding View Post

Obviously this is a personal preference issue, and I'm sure it's been beaten to death on other threads, but I'd strongly disagree with that. I have a PS3 in both of my main viewing rooms, and am much happier using an Oppo player for everything except games... (Though I agree, my reasons have little to do with picture and audio quality; it's usability.)
Wow and I ordered the 103 as I need the dual HDMI's for the 3D projector I haven't bought yet. I had no idea the OPPO did so much more.
post #394 of 16416
I was hoping to here more details on the video side of this player from everyone. Maybe a good sign as eyes are all glued to screens?
post #395 of 16416
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Originally Posted by HT in MSP View Post

It's not just DirecTV: I'm having handshake issues with my Motorola DCH 3416 DVR with Comcast, and have been in touch with Oppo tech support about it already. With their troubleshooting help, I discovered that this issue comes up only with the HDMI 1 out, and not HDMI 2. (This occurs whether I use the front or rear HDMI input). Also, these aren't premium channels I'm trying to play...it's any channel. Also, switching to Blu-ray input then back to HDMI in doesn't always work, and in fact I've caused the Oppo to "freeze;" I had to power cycle to get it to respond again.

Good to hear. More data helps them fix it.
post #396 of 16416
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Originally Posted by rstahl View Post

I was hoping to here more details on the video side of this player from everyone. Maybe a good sign as eyes are all glued to screens?

What are you looking for wink.gif

Ive not used an DVD, but Blu-ray looks awesome (Avengers was amazing) and it's video processing of an HDMI input is very good too.
post #397 of 16416
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Originally Posted by rstahl View Post

I was hoping to here more details on the video side of this player from everyone. Maybe a good sign as eyes are all glued to screens?

There are several posts about how good the picture quality is. DVD upconversion is top notch, if not the best ever. Bluray is as good as it gets but most modern players will produce similar picture quality. Few reports say video quality improves from other devices using HDMI IN but there are some glitches to be fixed regarding copy protection/handshaking when a set-top box is used. This looks particularly present with Directv boxes.
post #398 of 16416
Selling my BDP-93 and waiting for Amazon to get these bad boys in stock so I can save on shipping (I'm broke like dat!). I hope the wait won't be much longer...November anyone?
post #399 of 16416
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

If you already have a PS3 there are not many reasons why you would want to use the BDP-103. The main benefit the BDP-103 has over the PS3 is that is is much quieter and uses tremendously less energy. Audio and video picture quality will remain pretty much identical to these two players when using HDMI.
What it really comes down to is personal preferences. If you need to playback user generated media such as APE or FLAC audio files, MKV video files, or DVD-Audio discs, then the BDP-103 becomes a better solution than the PS3.

thanks for the advice,the only problem is that i have a 3d tv and a non-3d receiver but i can get a 3d receiver instead of the oppo and use de ps3 insted.the other question that comes to my mind is if that technology (ex. QDEO) and all the procesors etc etc that oppo install on their BRs are not transmited to the lcd so we can see a difference between their PQ and and the PQ of a gaming console.
post #400 of 16416
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Originally Posted by bokes View Post

Greetings,
Where are you guys finding this for sale?
Oppo site only has a link for notification on availability.

Use the link at the Oppo site to sign up for notification.
post #401 of 16416
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Originally Posted by Blindamood View Post

Wow, three pages in and no pics yet?? wink.gif

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post #402 of 16416
There was a question earlier about PQ differences between a PS3 and the 103. I ran through several discs, both BR and DVD. I even went to a neighbors and grabbed a couple that I already had in order to do better A/B comparisons. Blu-Ray results were pretty much the same and DVD results were too close to call. I left the PS3 on Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr, and rotated through the four color spaces on the 103 to get the best results on my monitor. The Oppo does have video settings to adjust for dialing in a better picture, but with all of those set to 0, I couldn't decide if one looked better than the other. Perhaps after tweaking those, the PQ differences will be more pronounced. Both looked great though, but I am surprised at how well the PS3 upconverts after all these years. Still, I think I might move the PS3 into the spare room and use the free space for a turntable. I rarely play games these days, so the PS3 was the Netflix box. Now the Oppo gets that duty.

I've watched two Blu's all the way through now. The first was Serenity which was just awesome. And the Radiohead Live from the Basement disc, which is 50hz. Like my 83, the 103 converts 50hz without issue. I bitstreamed the DTS-HD MA to my processor for decoding and the soundstage was breathtaking.
Edited by x43x - 10/8/12 at 9:01pm
post #403 of 16416
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

If you already have a PS3 there are not many reasons why you would want to use the BDP-103. The main benefit the BDP-103 has over the PS3 is that is is much quieter and uses tremendously less energy. Audio and video picture quality will remain pretty much identical to these two players when using HDMI.
What it really comes down to is personal preferences. If you need to playback user generated media such as APE or FLAC audio files, MKV video files, or DVD-Audio discs, then the BDP-103 becomes a better solution than the PS3.

i also have a ps3 but, for mkv playback, dvr scaling, getting a 4k upscaling player early,and the possibility of getting a 3d tv this is a good bet? also what program are folks using for streaming media, currently using tversity, to the 103
post #404 of 16416
Just tried Twonky & I think a couple of people asked about controlling your music from a tablet/phone, and this works to the 103. You do need to have Twonky server on your computer & Twonky mobile (the one I used is for iphone, there is not one optimized for an ipad) on your tablet/phone. Seems to work OK with queuing songs, and I even tried some 5.1 flac files and it worked. Might be old news, but I am new to Twonky & liked it enough to purchase a license after checking it out. Volume control seemed to control analogue volume only, though. smile.gif



post #405 of 16416
What's stopping Oppo from creating their own proper "Twonky" app for controlling 103 and especially 105? I mean seriously...
post #406 of 16416
saying ps3 have same picture as the oppo without telling how you compare them and where (lcd,plasma,your grandma tv) is meaningless.if i install an ps3 and oppo to a sanyo 24" tv using the red white and yellow cables and uses it owns speakers i can say i see nor hear any differences at all.dont know i you all understand me my english is real bad i know.
post #407 of 16416
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Originally Posted by giedrys View Post

What's stopping Oppo from creating their own proper "Twonky" app for controlling 103 and especially 105? I mean seriously...

Who says they aren't?
post #408 of 16416
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Originally Posted by PRBR View Post

saying ps3 have same picture as the oppo without telling how you compare them and where (lcd,plasma,your grandma tv) is meaningless.if i install an ps3 and oppo to a sanyo 24" tv using the red white and yellow cables and uses it owns speakers i can say i see nor hear any differences at all.dont know i you all understand me my english is real bad i know.

Well, you can't connect the Oppo to your 24" Sanyo with composite cables because the Oppo-103 only has HDMI out for video.

My comparisons were done on a calibrated Pioneer FD-151 with the ISF Dark mode. Signals were passed from their respective units via HDMI to a Rotel 1572, with video pass-through to the monitor.
Edited by x43x - 10/8/12 at 10:33pm
post #409 of 16416
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Originally Posted by x43x View Post

Well, you can't connect the Oppo to your 24" Sanyo with composite cables because the Oppo-103 only has HDMI out for video.
My comparisons were done on a calibrated Pioneer FD-151 with the ISF Dark mode. Signals were passed from their respective units via HDMI to a Rotel 1572, with video pass-through to the monitor.

sorry it was an extreme example and i was not referring to your test that i feel was good!!!! sorry for that!!
post #410 of 16416
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Originally Posted by PRBR View Post

hi guys,im new on this so i need some advise from you experience,im planning on buying a oppo-103 just for blue ray playback,i already have a samsung 6700 feeding my samsung un46d6400 3d led tv,the other hdmi goes to a onkyo 605,my fronts are psb t45,counterpoint center channel and klipsh surrounds,i also have a ps3 that i use for playing once a month so the big question is if this player will give me way better picture and sound quality with this set up or it will be no diference because something is limiting the PQ (like the lcd) or AQ (like the receiver,speakers,etc etc)
i know my englsh is bad!!
PD.can i get the same pq/aq from a oppo 93 than the 103 based on the technical info from both?

I own an early edition PS3 along with a Panasonic BDT110 and it seems that the picture quality of the 103 trumps them both. The PS3 was my first BR player but my wife and I both disliked the loud fan and the PS3 controller / BT remote. The BDT110 followed afterwards and my wife commented on how much better the PQ was when compared to the PS3. Keep in mind that my wife's only other comment regarding SQ or PQ prior to this was when I purchased a NAD T743 to replace an old H&K receiver. I was perfectly happy with the integration and performance of the 110, especially with the Viera link. One remote now seamlessly controled both my tv (TC-P50G25) and BR player.

Enter the 103: To be honest when I connected the Oppo to my main HT system I didn't expect much. I had initially purchased the 103 to complement a NAD T763 (via analog inputs) in a secondary system I'm currently piecing togetherand I was we'll aware that the BDT110 was an over achiever. Out of curiosity I swapped the BDT110 with the Oppo (connected via HDMI/no video processing by the VSX-53) and I was FLOORED! Animated features such as Avatar had a much greater level of detail and depth. Other BR titles were much more life like and the overall enjoyment had increased tremendously. It very difficult for me to describe just how much the Oppo's was improved over the Panny.

I found myself watching entire movies that I had intially played to evaluate the performance of the Oppo. I was a bit disappointed with a few handshake issues but perfection shouldn't be expected when two different manufactures are involved (these may be resolved with some basic setting adjustments). The PQ alone made the machine worth the price of entry, the build quaily ( think german luxury car verus japanese ecobox) and user interface was also very impressive. The sound quality was absolutely identical to the BDT110, no surprise there.

I'll test the analog outputs sometime this week.

Initially I was considering purchasing a 105 but the $700 preminum was a big deterrent and since I don't use headphones I figured I could get a very good stand alone DAC that SHOULD perform just as we'll as the 105 for much less.

After a quick jaunt on the Internet I was the new ower of a Peachtree Audio Dac*it which I purchased for $275 shipped on eBay. I mated this little gem with a pioneer vsx-1020 which is bi amped to a pair of B&W 685 feed by an apple TV3. I know that there are many other formats to listen to music but I perfer the connivence of Apple products. Now keep in mind that I'm no audiophile but I am very particular in how system sounds and functions. I simply buy the components that sound best to me within my budget. I feel that components should complement each other and work in harmony. A good example of this is the pioneer 1020 and the B&Ws. I never expected this combination to perform as well as it does, the 1020 always sounded harsh with the Mirage speakers but when bi amped they performed beautifully with the B&Ws (much better than a NAD T743 or a T763) .

So expect some comments in regards to the 103 vs the Dac*it for 2 channel audio performance I. The near future. I may also demo a 105 when they become available to test my DAC theory. Needless to stay that ill keep what ever compoents sound the best with my current systems.

My main HT components:

Panasonic TC-P50G25 tv
Pioneer VSX-53 processor
NAD T955 amp
Mirage OM10 main and surrounds
Mirage OM-C2 center
HSU VTF-3 MK4 sub


Please note the time of this post and excuse the grammatical errors, this was another sleepless night here in Atlanta and the ipad is not very kind to my eyes or my thumbs!

Dan
Edited by dahamler - 10/9/12 at 1:06am
post #411 of 16416
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Originally Posted by x43x View Post

There was a question earlier about PQ differences between a PS3 and the 103. I ran through several discs, both BR and DVD. I even went to a neighbors and grabbed a couple that I already had in order to do better A/B comparisons. Blu-Ray results were pretty much the same and DVD results were too close to call.
Is your PS3 Slim or Fat model? Have anyone compared Oppo 103 vs PS3 Slim vs PS3 Fat?
post #412 of 16416
There has been a fair bit of chat on here regards Cinavia and ISO playback.

I have heard rumours that those that will incorporate one of the forthcoming pro mod kits in their 103's (or 105's) may find there are some pleasant side effects over and above the ability to change Blu ray zones, we'll have to wait and see....
post #413 of 16416
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Originally Posted by x43x View Post

There was a question earlier about PQ differences between a PS3 and the 103. I ran through several discs, both BR and DVD. I even went to a neighbors and grabbed a couple that I already had in order to do better A/B comparisons. Blu-Ray results were pretty much the same and DVD results were too close to call. I left the PS3 on Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr, and rotated through the four color spaces on the 103 to get the best results on my monitor. The Oppo does have video settings to adjust for dialing in a better picture, but with all of those set to 0, I couldn't decide if one looked better than the other. Perhaps after tweaking those, the PQ differences will be more pronounced. Both looked great though, but I am surprised at how well the PS3 upconverts after all these years. Still, I think I might move the PS3 into the spare room and use the free space for a turntable. I rarely play games these days, so the PS3 was the Netflix box. Now the Oppo gets that duty.
I've watched two Blu's all the way through now. The first was Serenity which was just awesome. And the Radiohead Live from the Basement disc, which is 50hz. Like my 83, the 103 converts 50hz without issue. I bitstreamed the DTS-HD MA to my processor for decoding and the soundstage was breathtaking.

cheers for sharing your findings. a bit disappointed to hear about DVD upscaling...would have expected a noticeable improvement.
post #414 of 16416
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Originally Posted by x43x View Post

Well, you can't connect the Oppo to your 24" Sanyo with composite cables because the Oppo-103 only has HDMI out for video.
My comparisons were done on a calibrated Pioneer FD-151 with the ISF Dark mode. Signals were passed from their respective units via HDMI to a Rotel 1572, with video pass-through to the monitor.

I would think a properly calibrated projector would be the best way to do a/b comparisons.
post #415 of 16416
As much as I want to pull the trigger on this machine, without knowing how it may function with something like XBMC and the addition of Cinavia is making me reluctant.
post #416 of 16416
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Originally Posted by giedrys View Post

What's stopping Oppo from creating their own proper "Twonky" app for controlling 103 and especially 105? I mean seriously...

I'd be happy if they just took something like Oshare and tweaked it so you could customize the order etc. e.g if you select computer1 you could go straight to video by folder or the oppo could store that as a favorite saving several seteps. You pressed a button like nefix on the remote and it goes straight to your video by folder. You could skip home, scrolling to network, skip scrolling to the right computers source, scrolling down to video, skip scrolling to by folder.

If you could control your Oppo by http:/IP it might also save some of the set up time.

I put these in a thread - http://www.avsforum.com/t/1365649/what-features-would-you-like-in-your-next-oppo-br-e-g-oppo-bdp-113-and-bdp-115

The 103 is fantastic and I'm hoping they can incorporate more suggestions to make streaming even better as if you read the 103 threads, you can see more people are enjoying streaming more than ever for video and music. While DVD and BR disc playback are the first priority, clearly streaming is gaining momentum.
post #417 of 16416
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Originally Posted by Vincent Kompany View Post

cheers for sharing your findings. a bit disappointed to hear about DVD upscaling...would have expected a noticeable improvement.

I've got a friend with the Xbox and the DVD upscaling to me wasn't even close to the Oppo. He has a 65" Panasonic VT using hdmi. With video going direct so there would be no degradation possible on the preamp. It might not have been as noticeable in conditions where items in between would filter the quality.
post #418 of 16416
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Originally Posted by Darrin View Post

As much as I want to pull the trigger on this machine, without knowing how it may function with something like XBMC and the addition of Cinavia is making me reluctant.

Although the XBMC piece is an unknown, the Cinavia piece has already been described -- unless you are waiting for somebody to figure out a way to bypass or disable it. What is it about Cinavia that you would like to learn?
--Bob
post #419 of 16416
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Originally Posted by gadgtfreek View Post

What are you looking for wink.gif
Ive not used an DVD, but Blu-ray looks awesome (Avengers was amazing) and it's video processing of an HDMI input is very good too.
I'm looking for that slight edge after spending hard earned cash on a new projector and disc player! I believe you can see the difference more on the big screen than on LCD/plasma screen. Based on comments sounds to be a mixed bag with equal and PS3 in the same sentence.

I somehow ordered my 103 direct from OPPO when searching for a player with duel HDMI's and will report back with my take in two days when Fed Ex shows up with my undamaged box (thinking positive).
post #420 of 16416
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Although the XBMC piece is an unknown, the Cinavia piece has already been described -- unless you are waiting for somebody to figure out a way to bypass or disable it. What is it about Cinavia that you would like to learn?
--Bob

I have been studying it (Cinavia) a bit and understand that it is a flag placed in an audio stream. I also understand that it is only on certain movies......for NOW. I'm very much against DRM that punishes consumers at the expense of going after pirates. My MAIN concern is, since I backup MOST of my Blu Ray collection via Makemkv/Clownbd, will I encounter playback problems with my LEGITIMATELY owned/backed up movies?

Example: I own the BD of the film Salt (which is one with Cinavia). If I backed up the blu and converted to mkv (or even the raw mt2s for that matter), will streaming on the Oppo cause Cinavia to be enacted? If NOT, is there a possibility that it MAY sometime in the future? Thanks (much) in advance.
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