Official OPPO BDP-103 Owner's Thread - Page 134

Very nice,
You should have no issue running everything through the 4520. No need to utilize the 103s HDMI-2 out.

Cheers

During blank screens that last long enough to warrant it (between previews etc.) I'm getting that "error check connection" on my Panasonic 65VT50. However, once the movie starts all is well. I'm trying to figure out how to avoid having that pop up error message. Anyone familiar with this problem?

Presumably that's how your display responds to an HDMI handshake.

How to minimize the handshakes?

• Set output resolution to 1080p and turn 1080p24 OFF. That means the player produces 1080p60 constantly.
  
• If you are going through an AVR, see if a direct connection to the display improves matters.
  
• See if HDMI2 gives better results than HDMI1.
  

-Bill

My set up is Comcast cable box, Denon 2112CI, OPPO 103, Panasonic GT50 plasma. How would you all HDMI cable connect all of that for best PQ and audio??? Thanks!

All sources -[HDMI]-> Denon 2112CI -[HDMI]-> GT50 plasma

I am one of those who is having problems with the HDCP, I have Directv HR34-700 connected to the rear of the HDMI in port of the Oppo 103 and out to my Samsung Tv Un60es7150 for video and analog 5.1 out to my Rotel 1066 for sound. There doesn't seem to be an issue with any particular shows individually, it is more a random thing with my setup. I can go several switchings from a Non premium channel to a Premium channel then all of a sudden I start getting the HDCP notice. Once I start getting the notice I seem to get it the rest of the evening. I have tried switching the Input from HDMI in rear to Blue Ray and back and that normally solves the problem for awhile, I have even tried shutting the 103 off and on and that also solves the problem for awhile.

I have contacted OPPO customer services and this is what I received back from them:

"Unfortunately there are no additional recommendations we can offer at this time. We can confirm that other customers are having issues with the HDCP key failing through the player when connecting to a cable or satellite box, but the same HDCP errors are not occurring when connected to another device like a Blu-ray player. We do not know at this time what is causing these HDCP failures but we are currently investigating their cause and will resolve them through a future firmware release.

Best Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc."

Just unpacked my BDP-103. I was amazed to discover that I can access my entire library of songs stored on the PC through the network connection.

One question: When I am in "paging down to find a song mode" is there a way to do an alpha search (like typing in a "s" and immediately moving to that section of songs)?

Many thanks,
Brian

Sorry, no searching. You can use the GOTO button to enter an index value that will jump you to that point, but you have to guess the number.

-Bill

I'll try switching back and forth from HBO to non-premium channels some more over the next few days to see if I have this same issue.

Thanks Bill

A GoTo buttom is better than scrolling down two hundred pages!

People start using hierarchical structures to aid organization: folders with the first letter, that sort of thing.

Note that by using hard links you can create virtual directory structures without disturbing the original organization. See the FAQ: Are hard links supported on NTFS volumes?.

-Bill

Rather than trying to piece together different posts, I am wondering if I can get a few suggestions on how you are all serving your media to the Oppo (more so video)? I may look into having my music library available at some point, but I am looking to build my movie library using MKV format (I use MakeMKV ). I'd like to know some of your tested and proven methods of how you are viewing your ripped movies?

I did receive my BDP-103 yesterday and only had a small amount of time to configure and play with it. I was able to initially play the one mkv from my USB HDD attached to my Netgear router. I am using the ReadyShare feature that is mounting the drive to the router and then it's making it visible to the network. The Oppo does see it, after combing through the folder structures (I need to figure out the best place to save the files so there is less menu selections). I had noticed that another test file wasn't showing up where the other file is located seen. I am not sure if that is the router/drive issue or the Oppo? I think it might be the router or some sort of refreshing content issue with the 103? I think I found it after another look and re-apply of the attach drive settings and viewing 'all folders' on the Oppo. I then started to get random delays trying to go between folders via menu and then player wouldn't read the files correctly, stating it was 0 in size and 0 time length. Any ideas? Is there is particular naming convention or folder structure to use or not use? Also curious if there is a way to have cover art pulled for the movies?

I am all over the place on this post, so hopefully it isn't too confusing? Thanks.

Well, maybe one question at a time?

If you are seeing strange results from your NAS, first try copying the file to local storage connected directly to the OPPO, like a hard drive or USB stick. If it works there then the problem is with your NAS or network, which is a bit beyond us here.

Gracenote will fetch cover art for MKV files, but seems to go by the file name, which can produce comical results.

-Bill

An HDMI handshake, or handshake retry, starts by "resetting" the video data flow -- basically muting the video. From the TVs point of view, the signal has just gone away (for a short while), and thus it has a no signal error. Many TVs are smart enough to mute their own display while an HDMI handshake is in process, but evidently yours is designed to be chatty and let you watch the sausage being made. There is probably no easy way to make the TV stop doing this, and there's certainly no way to prevent the HDMI handshakes from happening. But it is possible that by upgrading your HDMI cabling you can minimize the need for handshake RETRIES, which may mean the handshake gets itself sorted out the first time -- before the display decides to put up that complaint message.

Just to set expectations, due to built-in delays in the HDMI handshake protocol spec (intended to give the devices at both ends of the cable a chance to get their act together), the minimum time for an HDMI handshake is around 2 seconds. Retries increase that in multiples of 2 seconds. So watch how long it is taking to get the video signal stable and you can figure out roughly how many retries are happening. No or 1 retry is "typical". 2 or more retries means one or both of the devices is being sluggish/stubborn, or your cabling is marginal.

The problem is that the disc authoring may confuse things here. For example, going between "previews" on a disc may actually include more than one change of video format (as the disc goes back to Top Menu -- not visible to you -- and then immediately on to the next preview). So that will LOOK LIKE handshake retries are happening (since the disc never actually displays the first step), when in fact it is just the disc authoring going through multiple steps.
--Bob

Hi everyone,

Have just bought an Oppo BDP-103AU, my first Oppo, and am very impressed. Every aspect of performance and quality are superior to my Panasonic player. However, last night i had a problem playing a region B (New Zealand) Blu-ray. The feature film was fine but the extra features (NTSC) played without sound. The player has been multi-zoned for DVD and plays region 2 Pal discs without problem.

My setup is; HDMI1 to Panasonic 55GT30AZ and HDMI2 to Yamaha RX-V667

The firmware version was updated on 20 December to version 10XAU-38-1211 which appears to be latest.

I will dig deeper into it tonight and I will definitely take that route first and get back to you.

As for the Gracenote; it didn't appear to display artwork for 'Ted' or 'Jaws'. Maybe some of the titles have multiple matches and it won't display? I know with my old Boxee Box, it used IMDB to pull it's media information. The recommended naming convention was something like "ted.(2012).mkv. As long as there was a period between the breaks in the title and also included the movie year at the end with parentheses, it would pull the artwork. Is there something similar with the Gracenote?

Check to see if the problem happens with both HDMI Audio LPCM and HDMI Audio Bitstream.

Also check the TV System setting (NTSC/PAL/Multi). Your Panasonic and your Yamaha may have different restrictions as to whether they can accept both NTSC and PAL. HDMI audio is not a separate signal. It is always embedded in the "blanking intervals" of a video signal. So to get audio into the Yamaha, it has to be able to handle the video format present on the HDMI 2 cable.
--Bob

Trying to follow of the information on the OPPO 103 in this tread is overwhelming to me. I purchased a OPPO 103 a few weeks ago and have it connected to the BlueRay input of my Marantz 7007 using HDMI. From the Marantz I have a HDMI 1 to the TV and HDMI 2 to my projector (Epson 5010). I have run Audyssey using the Marantz and thinking to have a professional calibrate using the Pro Audyssey. Do I understand the OPPO 103 reset the speakers when running a DVD as I have it connected. To my untrained eyes and ears this setup for me is working very well.

Thank you for the prompt reply Bob

I now have a mystery I can't solve! To confirm there was a problem I loaded a NTSC disc this morning, no sound, hence the post. Have now changed Audio to LPCM as you suggest and sound has returned. The Auto was also good. Here's the mystery. I then put it back to Bitstream and the sound was back!

Thank You very much for your help

Sunspots.

Welcome to AVSForum.

-Bill

I'm not quite sure what you mean when you say "reset the speakers".

First of all, the Speaker Configuration settings in the 103 ONLY affect the multi-channel Analog outputs. Since you are using HDMI audio you can ignore those settings in the OPPO. Instead, the Marantz handles that stuff for HDMI audio (i.e., via your Audyssey setup).

The Oppo does not change its settings because you choose to play a DVD. Settings changes only happen when you make them yourself.
--Bob

This all comes from using the player upside down (Australian model).

Seriously, it (ahem) sounds like you had a temporary audio handshake problem with the Yamaha. After the HDMI starts sending audio, the Yamaha has to recognize the incoming audio as a valid digital audio stream. Typically the AVR will mute audio until it is happy with that to avoid playing noise on the speakers. Recognizing Bitstream input is more difficult for the AVR than recognizing LPCM, but both really should work without problem. However, in this case it seems the Yamaha failed to recognize the audio and thus left things muted.

If it happens again, try giving it a nudge by forcing the stream to restart. One easy way to do that is to use the Resolution button on the remote to change the video output resolution to 1080i and then back to 1080p. Or sometimes just doing Chapter Back to restart the thing you are watching will be sufficient to clear up whatever confusion the AVR is having.
--Bob

Thank you

It seems to me that the quality of this forum and the advice given is right up to Oppo standards!

Keep up the good work

Many thanks

I've seen it on mainly HBO via D*, but it only happens sometimes. I'm always changing the resolution on my D* box though, and I have a feeling that has somethin to do with it. When I go to the basement / theater I switch the box to 1080, but upstairs I watch the same box in 6 different zones and set it to 480P. Maybe I'm wrong, not sure.

Just to be clear, the QDEO chip is not used for deinterlacing or scaling in the 103 or 105 as it was with the 93 and 95. This is now done by the Mediatek decoder.

Good Evening

First post here on this forum. The 103 updated tonight w/ the latest Firmware and since this update I have been having an issue that I can't seem to get resolved.

My issue is in regards to streaming videos over my network.

My Setup

BDP-103 (Obviously)
Audio Cables connected (Multi Channel RCA for Analog, and Optical for Digital Bitstream) (My Receiver doesn't have HDMI Inputs)

Previously prior to update I could stream my videos from my computer to the OPPO and get sound w/ the Audio setup to output Bitstream.

Today after the update I started streaming videos from computer and had no sound. I went into the setup and changed to 192K LPCM and I get sound. I can also get sound when I put my receiver (Yamaha DSP-Z9) to the multi-channel input regardless of what the OPPO settings are (Bitstream, 192K etc etc)

I verified that the optical cable is still hooked up and didn't fall out by streaming a HD 5.1 movie via Netflix and I got sound (5.1) when the OPPO is set to bitstream.

Has anyone else had these issues?

My problem seems to be much like changeover35 in the previous post. Must be something with the Yamaha receivers and the latest update. I attempted changing over and over from LPCM where I get sound to bitstream. Still no sound.

You can see the answer of Nathaniel Plain (Manager of Oppo Digital Technical Services) about Split AV connection...

Q: Will both HDMI outputs support full resolution simultaneously and are they independently scalable?

A: Yes, both HDMI outputs can support full resolution simultaneously provided that the display devices connected to the two HDMI ports can both support the full resolution. The two outputs can output different resolutions but are not independently scalable. As described in the answer to the previous question, the HDMI 1 output is driven by the Qdeo video processor and the HDMI 2 output is direct from the main SoC. In order to make it simple for customers to properly set up the player, we offer a choice of “Split A/V” or “Dual Display” for configuration the two HDMI outputs. When “Split A/V” is selected, HDMI 1 is the primary video port and HDMI 2 is the primary audio port. HDMI 1 outputs video at the highest possible resolution and mutes audio. HDMI 2 outputs video at a resolution that can sufficiently carry the best audio. This mode is intended for users who connect HDMI 1 to a projector and HDMI 2 to an A/V receiver. When “Dual Display” is selected, HDMI 1 and HDMI 2 take a “best effort” strategy and output an audio/video signal that is commonly compatible with the downstream devices connected to both ports. This mode is intended for simultaneously supporting two screens. When only one of the HDMI ports is in use, the “Split A/V” or “Dual Display” setting is not applicable.

I decided to run a DNLA server (at the moment I am using Serviio). That seems to serve up the files fine. They play fairly quick and that's all I can ask for at this time. I still however am not getting any artwork or movie data. Doesn't Gracenote work with network files (ie. DLNA) or will it only work with local/attached media? If I can get artwork, that would be a bonus.