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post #4261 of 16400
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Originally Posted by globalnomad View Post

I'll also add that at one point my share stopped working, but I didn't have WLE or Office Live installed. I did find Live for Windows Games. Upon removal and a restart, everything was working again. It seems like any iteration of Live is the culprit.

I contacted OPPO Technical Support a couple of days ago and they gave me a list of all the things that they knew might cause the BDP-103 W7 network population problems. At the top of the list was Microsoft Windows Live Applications. I too uninstalled WL from one of my computers and all is well. That is why my "W7HomeServer" system worked from day one because it did not have WL installed. Also, the "Workgroup" system that shows up occasionally is a know bug that may get fixed in a future firmware update. At least in my case, turning off any mention of "Homegroup" in the W7 systems seemed to clean up the BDP-103 network population (...) display.
post #4262 of 16400
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Originally Posted by jne67 View Post

Does anyone have experience with using the BDP-103 as a DLNA renderer for FLAC files? I have a setup with Asset UPnP as DLNA server, BubbleUPnP on Android as DLNA controller and BDP-103 as DLNA renderer. The problem is that when playing FLAC files the player does not show track info or album art. For mp3 files or when using the player as a DLNA player (not renderer) info and art is shown. I have tried with Gracenote enabled as well as disabled. The FLAC files (and mp3 files) contain ID tags and embedded album art. There is also album art in each album folder on the server.
If I convert the FLAC files to mp3 the info will be shown but not if I transcode the FLAC file into mp3.
I would really like to use the BDP as a renderer of FLAC files because I then have a lossless format and the possibility to search my FLAC collection using the DLNA controller. Searching is not (as far as I know) possible when using the BDP as a DLNA player.

Welcome to AVSForum.

Have you tested these files on locally attached storage to see if the tags works there?

It's been reported that the OPPO does not support ID3 tags in FLAC, but does support vorbis-type tags.

-Bill
post #4263 of 16400
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Welcome to AVSForum.
Have you tested these files on locally attached storage to see if the tags works there?
It's been reported that the OPPO does not support ID3 tags in FLAC, but does support vorbis-type tags.
-Bill

I have not yet tried the files on locally attahced storage, but my guess is that it will work. I say this because the problem seems to be that the OPPO does not read the tags in FLAC files "pushed" to it via a DLNA Controller (BubbleUPnP in my case), i.e. when it acts as a DLNA Renderer. When acting as a DLNA Player, i.e. when accessing FLAC files directly on the DLNA Server, tags and album art is indeed shown.
I use the dBpoweramp CD ripper to rip and convert to FLAC and as far as I know it uses Vorbis tags as default. I must however verify this in my FLAC files.
post #4264 of 16400
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Originally Posted by Recstar24 View Post

You rock! Same thing for me, my wife would appreciate it!
I also hope they fix some of the handshake issues as a result of using the oppo input to basically change the incoming cable box image and output something different.

For now, until a future firmware update will hopefully fix this issue, I'm just leaving the Oppo on 24/7. That way, when we want to turn on the TV and AVR, the Oppo is in the same configuration as when we turned it off. No need to change outputs.

I don't know how much more energy the player is using and/or if this will shorten the life span of the player, but it is a simple workaround until other options are available.

So far, I'm very pleased with the 103 and I'm glad that I didn't go with a less expensive alternative.
post #4265 of 16400
I wonder if the OPPO firmware is based on embedded Linux and they are using Samba for SMB connections? I ask because apparently the connect problems to Windows systems with Windows Live installed was a known problem with Samba and has subsequently been fixed in recent versions. I found several references to this problem in XBMC forums.

Just a thought.
post #4266 of 16400
I had the same issue with The Avengers disk on my Panny BDP 100. I'll give the Oppo a shot with it tonight.

JJ
post #4267 of 16400
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Originally Posted by jne67 View Post

I have not yet tried the files on locally attahced storage, but my guess is that it will work. I say this because the problem seems to be that the OPPO does not read the tags in FLAC files "pushed" to it via a DLNA Controller (BubbleUPnP in my case), i.e. when it acts as a DLNA Renderer. When acting as a DLNA Player, i.e. when accessing FLAC files directly on the DLNA Server, tags and album art is indeed shown.
I use the dBpoweramp CD ripper to rip and convert to FLAC and as far as I know it uses Vorbis tags as default. I must however verify this in my FLAC files.

I've tried to play the FLAC files from a USB stick and as expected the info and art is shown. I've also verified that the FLAC files are tagged with Vorbis tags so that should not be a problem unless some special combination of tags are required. I suspect that the problem is that the FLAC files or at least the tags are parsed different when using the BDP as a DLNA player and renderer.
post #4268 of 16400
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Originally Posted by rodge827 View Post

Hi All,
I have been lurking around AVS for quite some time and this is my first post. smile.gif
I have a question in regards to using the 103 as an AV preamp.
We are in the process of revamping our AV setup to HD.
I have an existing 6 channel amp to use, and our TV will be a Panny TC P50GT50.
The 2 HDMI inputs to the 103 will be from the cable box, and Apple TV.
Panasonic has assured me that the ARC will work from all inputs on the TV, and we figured to use the Wii on the composite input.
So, has anyone used the 103 in this configuration? Pro's...Cons?
I have a dedicated 2 channel listening room and the HT is in the Living Room for general use.
Any response will be helpful, and thanks in advance.
Chris

Chris,

I replaced my Outlaw 990 AV preamp with the 103 using the analog outs into a 5 channel poweramp and a sub. I run a home theater PC into the back HDMI. I am getting a huge thump/pop when I turn on the system and occasionally when switching source material. Oppo is working on a firmware update to fix this. The bass management is not as flexible as my Outlaw: if any of the speakers are set to large, the sub is disabled. My front speakers are full-range and I want to use the bass contribution from them. With the Oppo I can't. A firmware update would fix that, but Oppo doesn't see that as a problem. Perhaps if many of us requested it, we might see it in a future update.
post #4269 of 16400
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Originally Posted by johnny tuna View Post

I just set up my new 103 - hdmi direct to tv and analog audio to an outlaw amp - no preamp involved. I also hear a very audible hiss and loud pops/snaps when changing inputs. I find the hiss worse with bluray disks than it is with the digital satellite box, which I have connected via the HDMI in the back of the Oppo. I have sent a message to Oppo and will report what I learn.

Same issues. Oppo is apparently working on it as I posted earlier. Good that we continue to report it though so that it stays a top priority.
post #4270 of 16400
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I replaced my Outlaw 990 AV preamp with the 103 using the analog outs into a 5 channel poweramp and a sub.

..just wondering why you aren't keeping the 990 in the loop...I have a 103 connected to my 990/7500 amp via 7.1 Direct Inputs, HDMI out of 103, straight to Plasma...It gave my system a whole new "facelift"; SACD's are great, Blu-Ray is great...Pandora, Netflix are added features...
I did try DIRECTV DVR HDMI back to Oppo (kinda like a switching device), but just went back to original setup, i.e., optical out of DVR to 990, HDMI straight from DVR to Plasma; dual subs; I also use a B&K 2 channel amp for SBR's...
post #4271 of 16400
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Originally Posted by ajaxmike View Post

Same issues. Oppo is apparently working on it as I posted earlier. Good that we continue to report it though so that it stays a top priority.

This is the reply I got back. To be blunt, I know some things about some things, but do not know how to interpret this. I am wondering why they didn't just say they are working on a firmware fix. For the record, my amp is an outlaw 7075. I don't think there is any problem with the outlaw amp.

"If the input impedance of the receiver is low, then these errors may be present as the amplifier is amplifying the noise close to the Noise Floor. We would recommend using a 6dB to 12dB attenuator between the player and the amplifier's analog inputs and see if the same errors persist. If the errors persist, then it is possible that you have a defective unit and we would recommend having it replaced through the reseller that you bought the player form as it is possible that you have a defective unit."
post #4272 of 16400
I apologize if this had been covered but I didn't want to read though 143 pages.

I am looking to up grade my BDP-83 for the new BDP-103
The one big advantage I see would be using the 103 as a video processor to improve video quality.
My question is how much of a difference would I see? Right now I have an Direct TV HD box going
into my Denon and then to the TV (via HDMI). Would running it though the 103 make any difference?

Thanks in advance.
post #4273 of 16400
Can I use 103 as a HDMI splitter to connect 3D Media player Mede8er 600X3D to Oppo HDMI In and get both 3d video and HD audio output at the same time?
I've Integra DTC-9.8 preamp and it will not pass thru 3d video and i want to avoid an upgrade to HDMI 1.4
I've looked into various HDMI spliiters and matrix switches but none will pass 3D video+HD audio at the same time. It defaults to lowest common denominator and in this case its DTC-9.8.

Is anybody using this type of configuration in their setup currently?

In manual on Pg 41. It says this and i'm not sure about the highlighted part as it does not mention DTS-HD, Dolby TrueHD
"
The BDP-103 is equipped with two HDMI INPUT ports: one on the front panel and the other on the back. You
can use the included HDMI cable to connect a source device such as a tuner, set top box, mobile phone or
digital camcorder to the HDMI INPUT port(s).
NOTE
Both HDMI INPUT ports are HDMI v1.4 compatible and can accept up to 1080p high-definition
video signal, however, due to internal bandwidth limits, the audio signal is up to 6ch/192kHz or
8ch/96kHz PCM, Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Plus, DTS and AAC

"
Edited by malikarshad - 1/9/13 at 12:15pm
post #4274 of 16400
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

With the latest firmware, use the Input button followed by a digit to directly select a line from the Input selection Pop-up.
If the problem is at power up, use Quick Start to speed up the power up time.
--Bob


Hi there,

Switch to Quick Start in the set up menu as the other post said.

Now, this is where you need some patience. I am using my WDTV in the HDMI in on the rear of the 103.

Within the Harmony software, under activities you have to make some changes.

I think it may be under re do set up for activity.

After you see the Oppo turning on, add a 5 second pause followed

Send Input

half second pause

Send Input

Half Second pause

Send Input

Send Select.

This is all assuming you have it plugged in at the rear of the Oppo.

You can also tweak it as well, I have heard a 3 second pause after start up may work as well.

The Harmony remotes are great and capable of more functions than most think.

Good Luck.

JJ
post #4275 of 16400
I got my 103 a week ago and have just finished reading all the posts on this forum! (Whew!!) I too have the SMB problem with Windows 7 and it appears that removing WLE will fix it. However, I think my mail program (Windows Live Mail) is part of WLE and I really need that!! It isn't critical for me to stream media from my PC right now, but I'd like to do it sometime. So is Oppo considering this a "bug" and will it be fixed in the future?
post #4276 of 16400
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Originally Posted by malikarshad View Post

Can I use 103 as a HDMI splitter to connect 3D Media player Mede8er 600X3D to Oppo HDMI In and get both 3d video and HD audio output at the same time?
I've Integra DTC-9.8 preamp and it will not pass thru 3d video and i want to avoid an upgrade to HDMI 1.4
I've looked into various HDMI spliiters and matrix switches but none will pass 3D video+HD audio at the same time. It defaults to lowest common denominator and in this case its DTC-9.8.
Is anybody using this type of configuration in their setup currently?
In manual on Pg 41. It says this and i'm not sure about the highlighted part as it does not mention DTS-HD, Dolby TrueHD
"
The BDP-103 is equipped with two HDMI INPUT ports: one on the front panel and the other on the back. You
can use the included HDMI cable to connect a source device such as a tuner, set top box, mobile phone or
digital camcorder to the HDMI INPUT port(s).
NOTE
Both HDMI INPUT ports are HDMI v1.4 compatible and can accept up to 1080p high-definition
video signal, however, due to internal bandwidth limits, the audio signal is up to 6ch/192kHz or
8ch/96kHz PCM, Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Plus, DTS and AAC

"
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Originally Posted by fletcher6490 View Post

Here's something I was wondering. I currently have my HTPC with a GTX 650 video card which I'm running the HDMI out from the card to the Oppo's HDMI in. When I play full BD rips .iso files using Power DVD I can't get the Oppo to play the HD audio tracks. When I hit info on the Oppo it shows LPCM 48khz 7.1 and on another thread someone said that the Oppo's HDMI in can not bitstream HD audio and here is what the actual Oppo site shows that the HDMI in can do
Is this the same as the lossless audio tracks but it's just not showing the Master Audio or TrueHD on the screen or am I actually losing quality? Just so you guys do know, my video card supports HD audio and so does my receiver.

In the above post its mentioned Oppo cannot bitstream audio from external sources and converts it to LPCM. That's fine as long as its not down mixing it to lower resolution.
But can it stream 3D video from external source?

Can somebody enlighten on this topic as this would be helpful to many people how are not interested in upgrading their receiver/processor to HDMI 1.4 just for this?
post #4277 of 16400
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Yes, you see Cinavia working as it is supposed to. No one likes it, but that's the point.
Currently Cinvavia detection kicks in for BDMV and AVCHD directories on both local storage and SMB.
DLNA does not support directory structures so it doesn't apply there.
At the moment, Cinavia detection does not seem to be in effect for MKV or M2TS files. It is hard to believe this loophole will be allowed to last forever.
-Bill

This is not how I remember it. I remember that Cinavia takes effect if you are playing any cinavia enabled movie off a shiny disc. Whatever the file format on the disc. If the file however is played from anything but a shiny disc (ie-hard drive), then Cinavia will not show up.
Edited by Ali is mental - 1/9/13 at 12:55pm
post #4278 of 16400
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Originally Posted by Ali is mental View Post

This is not how I remember it. I remember that Cinavia takes effect if you are playing any cinavia enabled movie off a shiny disc. Whatever the file format on the disc. If the file however is played from anything but a shiny disc (ie-hard drive), then Cinavia will not show up.
I've heard it's embedded in the files regardless whether you play from the disc or stream it from a file.
post #4279 of 16400
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Originally Posted by malikarshad View Post

I've heard it's embedded in the files regardless whether you play from the disc or stream it from a file.

Yes, but the question is when does the player detect Cinavia and enforce the playback restrictions.

If you have Cinavia-marked MKV or M2TS files a test on optical disc would be worth trying.

-Bill
post #4280 of 16400
I just bought the 103 and have read many of the posts here but I do not have time to read them all and searching has only helped a little. I bought the Oppo based on the rave reviews at Amazon and the HT review. I am wondering how to most effectively use the HDMI inputs. My AV equipment is listed below. Of course, all sources are routed through my AVR right now. So to the questions: Would I get better video quality if I routed the output of the AVR through the Oppo in-line to the TV? Or would I be better served routing a media player like the Dune via the Oppo and back to the AVR? My understanding is that the Oppo's video processing is so good it will make any video passed through it to the TV much better, but that there are audio sync problems -- or is the sync problem no longer an issue? If there is a sync problem, can I use the AVR delay function to correct it?



TV: Sony 55 3D LED 1080p
PVR: Scientific American 8300HD
AVR: Marantz SR7005
BD: Oppo BDP-103
Media players: Dune Smart D1, Apple TV (720p), Android Mini PC,
Speakers: Paradigm and Rogers Sound lab mix
Game consoles: PS3, Wii
post #4281 of 16400
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Originally Posted by videoluvr View Post

I wonder if the OPPO firmware is based on embedded Linux and they are using Samba for SMB connections? I ask because apparently the connect problems to Windows systems with Windows Live installed was a known problem with Samba and has subsequently been fixed in recent versions. I found several references to this problem in XBMC forums.
Just a thought.

You beat me to it. I was going to ask the same thing, because I also have found several posts on the same thing. Here is one such thread: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_xp-windows_update/why-is-update-kb2536276-causing-a-block-in/4b3536b7-b6b4-43fc-a973-c75ea478c7ca
post #4282 of 16400
Since my recent firmware update I have been experiencing some oddities. Netflix is one of the major issues, I am now having the OPPO 103 sit at the loading screen forever and cannot exit out. I have to power down the unit and turn it back on and make another attempt. Another issue is that sometimes I am getting the "Not Supported" icon in the top right of the screen in which I have to again, power the device down and back on; this issue keeps me from doing anything on the main menu as well. I did the "restore factory defaults" as suggested with each firmware update as well, and once again, with no change. I also had a quirky issue with the Sunshine movie in which it brings up the picture in picture during certain scenes detailing the making of the movie however when I go into the popup menu it says that feature isn't even supported because my player does not support picture in picture so I cannot even turn it off. All of these things manifested after the most recent firmware update so I can only assume this is the cause. Also FYI I have been using the device since it was originally released without any issues of this nature. Any info, advice, or at least others echoing these kinds of issues would at least make me feel better. Thanks!
post #4283 of 16400
Ok dumb question, I am very interested in the hd-DVD ripping and playback via the 103. My question is, what's the advantage to doing this? I just recently reintroduced my stupid hd-DVD player back into my system after a receiver upgrade and haven't even used it yet. Will I get better quality audio/video ripping my hd-dvd's and playing them through my 103?
post #4284 of 16400
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Originally Posted by silverx0ne View Post

Since my recent firmware update I have been experiencing some oddities.

I would try reinstalling the firmware. You'll need to use the USB or optical disc method.

Erase Persistent Storage, Reset Factory Defaults, then reboot one more time.

If still no good, contact OPPO support.

-Bill
post #4285 of 16400
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

I would try reinstalling the firmware. You'll need to use the USB or optical disc method.
Erase Persistent Storage, Reset Factory Defaults, then reboot one more time.
If still no good, contact OPPO support.
-Bill

You forgot to mention unplugging the player too. wink.gif
post #4286 of 16400
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Originally Posted by Ali is mental View Post

This is not how I remember it. I remember that Cinavia takes effect if you are playing any cinavia enabled movie off a shiny disc. Whatever the file format on the disc. If the file however is played from anything but a shiny disc (ie-hard drive), then Cinavia will not show up.

this is incorrect. Cinavia will trigger on any format from a shiny disc, it will trigger from any BDMV or AVCHD folder structure, but it will not trigger from any media file including MKV and M2TS. (unless they are on a shiny disc)
post #4287 of 16400
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Originally Posted by malikarshad View Post

In the above post its mentioned Oppo cannot bitstream audio from external sources and converts it to LPCM. That's fine as long as its not down mixing it to lower resolution.
But can it stream 3D video from external source?
Can somebody enlighten on this topic as this would be helpful to many people how are not interested in upgrading their receiver/processor to HDMI 1.4 just for this?
Any inputs on this issue?
post #4288 of 16400
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Originally Posted by malikarshad View Post

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Originally Posted by malikarshad View Post

In the above post its mentioned Oppo cannot bitstream audio from external sources and converts it to LPCM. That's fine as long as its not down mixing it to lower resolution.
But can it stream 3D video from external source?
Can somebody enlighten on this topic as this would be helpful to many people how are not interested in upgrading their receiver/processor to HDMI 1.4 just for this?
Any inputs on this issue?

The HDMI Inputs are compatible with 3D video. The player can also play 3D video files (e.g., MKV). You may have to bring up the menu to tell the player which flavor of 3D you are trying to play (e.g., Side By Side). See the release notes for the 1211 firmware in the first post of this thread.

The HDMI Inputs can accept traditional, lossy DD and DTS Bitstream formats. They can NOT accept the lossless TrueHD and DTS-HD MA formats (you will get the lossy "compatibility" track as input instead). However, if your source device can decode those lossless formats to LPCM, the HDMI Inputs CAN accept multi-channel, high bit-rate LPCM such as would result from that decode.
--Bob
post #4289 of 16400
New problem - for some reason the "K's and L's" are missing from the MP3 Music folder per BDP-103. They are all there when looking at them via the W7 Media Player. I have not checked to see what else is missing but there may be more. Any ideas on what the heck I'm doing to cause this to happen would be appreciated.
Edited by Ken429 - 1/9/13 at 4:45pm
post #4290 of 16400
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

The HDMI Inputs are compatible with 3D video. The player can also play 3D video files (e.g., MKV). You may have to bring up the menu to tell the player which flavor of 3D you are trying to play (e.g., Side By Side). See the release notes for the 1211 firmware in the first post of this thread.

The HDMI Inputs can accept traditional, lossy DD and DTS Bitstream formats. They can NOT accept the lossless TrueHD and DTS-HD MA formats (you will get the lossy "compatibility" track as input instead). However, if your source device can decode those lossless formats to LPCM, the HDMI Inputs CAN accept multi-channel, high bit-rate LPCM such as would result from that decode.
--Bob
That's what i wanted to confirm. You saved me an upgrade to a new preamp. Thanks very much.smile.gif
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