Official OPPO BDP-103 Owner's Thread - Page 153

Originally Posted by Jottle 

I can just say that the netflix app on the 93 was totally abysmal. I had all sorts of frame skipping errors and sync errors that Oppo claimed was Netflix's fault alone. I just got the 103 and the netflix app and streaming quality is worlds better. No frame errors to speak of. However I'm still having the strangest issue using the wireless adapter for streaming. If I stream netflix in the morning/afternoon, then I get good quality and stable high hd streams. When I watch streams on netflix in the evening the quality jumps around all the time from low sd to high hd and back again. This definitely isn't an issue with my connection (19mbp down) b/c vudu streams in the day time or evening all work perfectly, and the built in vudu streaming network test shows I'm getting a solid and consistent 9+mbps down at all times of day (confirmed with speedtest.net). So I know that my network speed isn't an issue in the evening, yet the Nefflix app still jumps all around but only in the evening. To test if this was truly a wireless streaming issue, I switched to hardwired ethernet cable directly into my modem. Now the speeds are perfect all the time. So this makes me wonder, could I possibly have a defective wireless dongle? I doubt it considering there are zero issues with the dongle during the day time (and setup shows 100% signal strength as well at all time). It just baffles me that netflix is the only app on my 103 that's having throughput issues over wireless in the evening, but the issue completely disappears when switching to hard wired ethernet. If it were a wireless streaming issue, wouldn't the other streaming services also be affected? They are not, however. So confusing...

Originally Posted by BadClams 

With this thread at 153 pages and counting, I wish there was a FAQ list at the beginning to capture all the lessons-learned in easy bullet points!

Originally Posted by mantaraydesign 

Anyone know why some sellers on Amazon are selling the older model BDP-93 USED more than the current model BDP-103? Am I missing something???


Shouldn't older electronics sell for cheaper than the current electronics?


I also see a another seller from Amazon selling the BDP-103 with higher price than from OPPO with free shipping.

Originally Posted by mantaraydesign 

Anyone know why some sellers on Amazon are selling the older model BDP-93 USED more than the current model BDP-103? Am I missing something???

Originally Posted by ajaxmike 

I am playing my flac library without trouble, but as Bob says it is not gapless. You could use a Digital Media Controller with gapless capability and then use the Oppo as a Digital Media Render. I am using Media Monkey as the DMC, but I am getting lots of lockup issues. Not sure what is going yet.

Originally Posted by mantaraydesign 

Anyone know why some sellers on Amazon are selling the older model BDP-93 USED more than the current model BDP-103? Am I missing something???


Shouldn't older electronics sell for cheaper than the current electronics?


I also see a another seller from Amazon selling the BDP-103 with higher price than from OPPO with free shipping.

Originally Posted by thirdkind 

I did a lot of experimenting tonight and I think I've found a way to get great quality from Netflix on the 103 via HDMI 1...switch to Source Direct. It appears to bypass the noise reduction in the QDEO. The overly smooth faces and motion artifacts I was seeing previously are gone. I flipped back and forth between 1080p and Source Direct and compared the same episodes of The Tudors I'd watched previously (I've become intimately familiar with them at this point with all this messing around ) and I'm positive there's a significant increase in detail. There are a few scenes that produce noticeable motion artifacts when using 1080p (usually in the form of trails as something moves across the screen), but look clean when using Source Direct, and the detail with a High / HD stream is comparable to the PS3.

I also confirmed that with Source Direct, the benefits of HDMI 1 over HDMI 2 that I saw on the Spears & Munsil Blu-ray are still present. Chroma resolution and upscaling are superior to HDMI 2 (on my display, anyway).

I'm very happy at this point. I'm still going to request that Oppo provide a setting to disable noise reduction on HDMI 1 for all resolutions, though. Ideally, I'd like to set the 103 to 1080p and forget it.

The BDP-103 supports a special Source Direct mode through its HDMI outputs. This resolution is
recommended for use with external video processors or high-end TVs. In Source Direct mode, the player
works as a “transport”. It decodes video from the discs and then sends the raw video signal in its native
resolution and format, without extra processing, to the external video processor or TV. The actual output
resolution varies by content:

Originally Posted by jboileau 


Some may find it desirable to have a Cinavia free Oppo player.

Originally Posted by rdgrimes 

Wireless is what it is. Your wireless network could very well be slowing in the evenings due to interference. There's could easily be several other wireless networks in your neighborhood. I can pick up 3-4 here, at my folks house I can see about 10.

Originally Posted by apw2607 

I can and am happy to discuss netflix streaming all day long however this thread is probably not the place. But the original comment was that netflix was somehow giving the ps3 special treatment in terms of streaming and I beg to differ.

I've got, wow lets see, 4 netflix clients all capable of the 1080p super hd 5800 kb/s stream and all of them get it fine .... No prob. (Ps3, s790, tivo, atv3)

The oppo should be no different.

Btw X-high/HD is now back as of last week. This is the 5800kb/s stream, or as netflix brands it super hd. X-high/hd is a Sony bdp / ps3 display overlay term.

If you want to know precisely what your netflix client is capable of playing with the bandwidth you have, playback the netflix test file "Example Short 23.976". It will provide you with a overlay of the stream you are receiving and resolution. Have fun.

Originally Posted by Jottle 

x-high is only back for you if your isp has signed on to netflix's open connect platform. If you're using cox/comcast, verizon? (basically the bigger providers) then you're never going to see x-high (super) hd again. They're basically screwing customers who use ISP's that have competing streaming products. Thanks again netflix for tiering your services but charging all customers the same rate for subpar quality.

Originally Posted by Despoiler 

It's not Netflix that is being hostile. They are actually trying to help their customers. Both Verizon and ATT (Bell companies) have gone on public record that they want content providers like Netflix and Google to pay them for their customer's traffic over their network. On top of that they have put bandwidth caps on their customers. Unfortunately for Verizon and ATT the internet doesn't work like the phone network. The internet runs on the concept that you buy access into to the whole thing. The phone network works like a toll way. Verizon and ATT have been trying to get back to their monopoly business models since they go broken up in the 70s.

Netflix bought EyeIO encoding technology to reduce the bandwidth required for their streams. The Open Connect network is basically a collocated data center that has direct access to an ISP's network. It bypasses sending traffic over the internet. Again, all of this is being done because ATT and Verizon are trying to take the internet back in time.

Originally Posted by Despoiler 

Interesting. I'm now curious why it's just Netflix that is exhibiting that behavior? Does the Oppo run an actual Netflix app like the PS3 or does it provide a framework that Netflix can use to stream to like it does on a PC? If it's an app perhaps the issue will resolve itself when the newest version is pushed out that supports Netflix's new video profiles?

Originally Posted by Jottle 

x-high is only back for you if your isp has signed on to netflix's open connect platform. If you're using cox/comcast, verizon? (basically the bigger providers) then you're never going to see x-high (super) hd again. They're basically screwing customers who use ISP's that have competing streaming products. Thanks again netflix for tiering your services but charging all customers the same rate for subpar quality.

Originally Posted by Jottle 

I agree. But if my network was slowing down due to interference from other things in the evening, then I would see the slowdown on other streaming apps besides just netflix. But netflix is the only one that has these issues.

Originally Posted by Despoiler 

It's not Netflix that is being hostile. They are actually trying to help their customers. Both Verizon and ATT (Bell companies) have gone on public record that they want content providers like Netflix and Google to pay them for their customer's traffic over their network. On top of that they have put bandwidth caps on their customers. Unfortunately for Verizon and ATT the internet doesn't work like the phone network. The internet runs on the concept that you buy access into to the whole thing. The phone network works like a toll way. Verizon and ATT have been trying to get back to their monopoly business models since they go broken up in the 70s.

Netflix bought EyeIO encoding technology to reduce the bandwidth required for their streams. The Open Connect network is basically a collocated data center that has direct access to an ISP's network. It bypasses sending traffic over the internet. Again, all of this is being done because ATT and Verizon are trying to take the internet back in time.

Originally Posted by rdgrimes 

Having said all that, its also probable that Netflix does not dole out bandwidth equally to every specific device that's connected.

Originally Posted by Jottle 

x-high is only back for you if your isp has signed on to netflix's open connect platform. If you're using cox/comcast, verizon? (basically the bigger providers) then you're never going to see x-high (super) hd again. They're basically screwing customers who use ISP's that have competing streaming products. Thanks again netflix for tiering your services but charging all customers the same rate for subpar quality.

Originally Posted by holyindian 

Bumping my question again..

I am looking forward to buy the Oppo BDP-103 player. Have a couple of questions before i drop the ball.
I usually copy the entire Blu-Ray disk to my Media Server, which is connected to a HTPC with ASUS HD7850-DC2-2GD5 Radeon Graphic card, and thus the the graphic card's sound is used for processing the movies through XBMC.

I am a complete noob with oppo brand and am completely unaware of its potential. Is the sound and PQ quality better with directly playing the disk through Oppo player vs the HTPC's high end dedicated sound card such as the ASUS HD7850-DC2-2GD5 Radeon?

I have another Panasonic blu ray player, but i think the hptc playes sound and video better as compared to that panasonic bd player, hence this ignorant question.

Originally Posted by BenGodzilla 

Here in the UK today I bought the latest copy of What Hi-fi......never really my favourite magazine for a variety of reasons but it has given one of the few mediocre reviews I have seen for any Oppo machine with it's review of the 103.

In a 3 star review it suggests it's greatest strength is it's variety of features but rates it's picture quality no better on upscaling DVD and Blu Ray that the better budget players kicking around. It suggested as well on straight forward stereo music play back it lacked timing and an ability to knit more complex pieces of music together.

I'm keen to get the 105 to replace my Ayre CX-7 but this was one of those mmm moments....

Originally Posted by BenGodzilla 

I'm keen to get the 105 to replace my Ayre CX-7 but this was one of those mmm moments....

Originally Posted by SeeMoreDigital 


That said, I suggest you try finding a place that will lend you a 'run in' Oppo BDP-105 to test. So you can compare it to your dedicated CD spinner for a few days.