Official OPPO BDP-103 Owner's Thread - Page 167

I think most people would disagree the release of the player should have been delayed until those were ready.
--Bob

Solved on my Win7 machine by sharing to "Everyone" with full permissions enabled. When sharing a folder (right click on folder, select Properties) verify that the sharing tab and security tab both show the "Everyone" user. Don't know much about SMB but this worked for me. Did not have any Windows Live Essentials installed so it was only a permissions issue. Public folders were accessible before adding the Everyone user.

Now here's the rub....

I've installed dual boot Win8 for testing but the Oppo will not access without asking for user/password. Public folders are not even accessible. I've spent the afternoon researching and testing to no avail. Various things I tried (some of this advice I located from Boxee and XMBC users):
- Run Win8 using a local account, not a connected Microsoft account (Maybe this should bypass WLE? A clean install of Win8 does not have any WLE items shown as installed.)
- Take ownership of the shared folders (even though I am an administrator some said this was necessary because of new Win8 security features)
- Changed certain local security policies per this XMBC forum (see post #39) http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=63123&page=4
- All sharing turned on, password protection off, public folders turned on, etc.
- User name set to "Everyone" with full read/write permissions.

I'm not sure if this is an Oppo or a Win8 issue. Probably some combination. Hopefully Oppo can fix the issues in firmware and/or publish definitive instructions and troubleshooting guidance. (I have forwarded this information to Oppo. Will post any response.)

I will add that DLNA access is fine on the Oppo. It sees both the Win8 sharing server and Mezzmo (used for other network devices because of transcoding). In truth this is really all that is necessary for my purposes. Of course others may be reliant on SMB shares. Also, being a retentive nerd I want everything to work as it should!
Edited by 65Stang - 1/28/13 at 4:05am

My experience is same. Most HDMI issues were resolved by disconnecting the Denon 3212CI AVR to Sony EX701 TV HDMI cable while leaving the HDMI1 connection from the Oppo 103 to Sony in place. The Oppo 103 HDMI2 to AVR cable also remains in place.

Removing all cabling to everything and recabling (using the same cables) resolved the remainder of the HDMI issues at that time.

1. Do occasionally have to disconnect all power to the Oppo 103 when it locks up (few times each week).
2. Audio (dissapearing) issues are always solved by rebooting the Oppo 103 for me.

Anxious for a firmware update to resolve these HDMI handshake items!

Love the Oppo BDP-103 and Oppo focus on customer service including the quality of guidance by Opppo Beta Participants on this forum.

atlantaaudio

Hi guys,
Why the zoom button (which is on remote control) can not operate on Matrix bluray movie?...i do not understand this...
Edited by paulbroke - 1/28/13 at 7:32am

Zoom doesn't work on some Blu-rays. I thought it was those with the PIP feature but other discs with certain java programming may be a trouble, too.

We are hoping future firmware will fix this, but no promises. OPPO got it working on the earlier players after some struggles.

-Bill

Thanks Bill

I've tried most of the above with Win 8 also and never got it to work. No problems with my WHS, Win 7, XP, FreeNas or Linux shares.

Boy, have to say I'm loving my new 103 in my HT. watched Lawrence of Arabia yesterday and the PQ from the disc combined with the 103 playback produced an amazingly sharp picture. Haven't seen any indication of the softness some are talking about here. Using HDMI 1 and a Darblet. Though I did have a brief audio dropout later in the film. Fast forwarded a minute or so and the sound was fine. Rewound and watched the scene again and the sound was okay. Go figure. Anyway so glad I upgraded from my 83.

I have Comcast and my box is a Cisco RNG200N DVR. Unfortunately, the passthru (native) mode of this box is currently not working properly, and will output everything at 480i no matter the signal. So, i am basically stuck having to set the box at 1080i. Is it worth having the box connected to the Oppo's HDMI input, or should I just go straight through the receiver?

^ The Oppo can't regenerate data is doesn't have looks like you need to keep it at 1080i if that is an option. At least the Oppo will deinterlace it assuming you are sending 1080P to the display. Whether it is worth the hassle is up to you.

THANKS Bob

Sounds like my simple setup would work real nice with the Oppo acting like a AVR until I get one. I have had analog out of my computer and have been satified with the 7.1 sound. I have been using only my HTPC for the past 2 years. Getting the Oppo, I could have my htpc, xbox and the great blu ray player.

Would I here a better quality from analog out of the Oppo?

larry

The box is forcing me to set it at 1080i in order to view HD programming. Must be a glitch in the way passthru was implemented. Royally stinks, but there is little I can do about it. If i get any kind of scaling benefit going through the 103, then I will continue to do so.

I know this is an hdmi thing but wondering if it's common across any combos of equipment or if something isnt't playing nice? If the oppo is playing and I turn off the tv, about 45 secs later, the oppo will hiccup and stop playing for a second. I'm surprised that handshake comes so late after turning off the tv. I have Nad 785 rcvr and Sony 929 tv. I have all the cec turned off on the Nad & tv.

Thanks Bob.

My buddy is going to let me borrow his Emotiva XPA-2 amp (300 WPC!) to see how the 103 sounds with it, as long as I help him get it out of his house (he can't lift it by himself).

If I invoke volume control in the 103 and use the analog outputs, will I have a viable setup without a preamp? His amplifier has no gain control and my receiver doesn't have any 'pre outs'. He was concerned about the voltage level coming out of the 103.

And yes, if I go this route, I will check 3 or 4 times that the 103's volume is set way lower than it's default of 100 so I don't incinerate my eardrums.

Incidentally, I read earlier in this thread people discussing the volume control affecting digital outputs, although the manual clearly says it's an analog output feature only. Am I correct in my understanding that it's an analog-only feature?
Edited by RaptorX - 1/29/13 at 7:09pm

Yes, except for a special case: volume "0" mutes digital audio, too.

-Bill

That's definitely unusual. Sounds like the TV is keeping its HDMI Input live for that 45 seconds after it is turned off. I've no idea why it would want to do that.

The other possibility is that your Receiver is reacting slowly.

Normally the re-handshake when the TV goes away (i.e., when it is no longer the end of the HDMI chain) happens immediately.
--Bob

For the 103/105 players Volume only applies to the Analog outputs EXCEPT that Volume 0 is implemented as Mute and will also mute the Digital outputs.

I suspect you may have misread some discussion about the digital implementation of the Analog Volume control.
--Bob

What is the +1 sharpness issue you're referring to??

I am considering upgrading my receiver to an Anthem MRX500, DENON 3313, or Marantz 6007. I am leaning towards the Anthem but what is holding me back is the lack of 7.1 analog inputs on the Anthem. With my current DENON 3805 I only use analog as it does not have HDMI. ARC is the Anthem claim to fame but it makes me feel I could be wasting the strengths of the Oppo if I go 100% digital, not to mention the extra difficulties setting up ARC correctly. The 3313 is apparently not on par with the 3805 in SQ and would have to move to the 4520 which costs too much. Marantz have moved to the Future Shop box store approach which always makes me hesitant.

Please offer up your feelings, experiences and recommendations.

Search is your friend,  http://www.avsforum.com/newsearch/?search=%2B1+sharpness&resultSortingPreference=recency&output=posts&type=all&containingthread[0]=1432162&advanced=1

Hi guys:

 

I bought a new Synology NAS last week (DS1812+, 8 bay, 32TB max) for the first time and need  help in setting up a directory structure for CDs, DVDs and BluRays.

Can anyone please help me in suggesting a structure that is intuitive and easy to follow and search through? I'm a newbie to the concept of a NAS.

I guess i'll be using the Oppo 105 for playback and not sure yet what software to use rip movies to the NAS with no compression whatsoever...

 

Thanks,

David

Alas, your suspicions were correct! I reread the post and it was referred to as 'digital volume control', presumably meaning that it was not via a knob.

Any thoughts on the Emotiva experiment that I talked about in that same post?

I am a huge fan of dbpoweramp. I just processed 600+ cds though it and outputted each one to three different formats simultaneously. http://www.dbpoweramp.com/

Thanks Bullit! What does your file structure look like, if i may ask? Does it rip DVD-A and SACDs?

Edited by dmusoke - 1/28/13 at 4:53pm

MakeMKV works great for movies, IMHO. It copies the the source into a single MKV file without transcoding for a perfect bit-for-bit remux. The Synology's built-in Media Server package will serve MKVs perfectly to the Oppo since the Oppo will play virtually every conceivable media codec within a MKV container (including the latest lossless HD audio formats) and thus does not require any transcoding in the server.

Oppo support responded with the following:

"Windows 8 and OSX Lion and later will not work with SMB at this time as they are using a newer version of SMB which is not compatible with the player. In the interim while we work with MediaTek to see if we can add a newer revision of SMB to the player, you will want to use a DLNA DMP or DLNA DMR server to interact with your computer through your network."

That answers all the questions about Win8. Microsoft does it again I'm sure Oppo will do everything possible to add compatibility in a future firmware update. As I said DLNA works flawlessly so SMB isn't mission critical in my setup.

I should also point out that Oppo responded in under 8 hours. Nice.

Thanks bluechunks.... So, the created MKV files are bit-to-bit identical in performance and features to the original bluray file(s)? MKV supports all lossless codecs(Dolby TrueHD and DTS-MA) plus high quality lossy ones(Dolby Digital+ and DTS-HR)?

 

Thanks,

David

 

PS

I presume MKV is a container so what is the file format within that container that would fully represent the original fidelity of the original bluray ISO file?

Edited by dmusoke - 1/28/13 at 6:04pm

Yup. You end up with whatever audio track(s) from the source you select, and yes, you can include more than one if present on the source. FWIW, the software is free for 30 days to try.

I don't understand what the major issue is here.

HDTV is either 720p or 1080i. Feeding either of those to the 103 where it then presumably gets upconverted to 1080p for delivery to your HDTV display accomplishes what you want, for best image on the HDTV display. My own experience is that the 103 does a better job of this 1080p upconvert (along with "cleanup", "picture punch", etc.) than any other device also in the relay chain which could do the same upconvert for display... including the HDTV itself. I have a Panny 65VT50 to go with my 103, and through experimenting and subjectively comparing results, I've decided to do the upconvert to 1080p in the 103 rather than deliver 720p/1080i "native" through the 103 and on to the HDTV where it would also get upconverted to 1080p for display.

Anyway, "native" out of the DVR is simply having the box automatically change output resolution delivered to the next component when the input source resolution of the program changes. But even if "native" is somehow not working for you, you still can do the same thing manually. Just change the output resolution yourself (either "fixed" in the setup menu of your Cisco DVR box which is fairly inconvenient, or by repeatedly pushing the FORMAT button on the front panel of the DVR box while you're using, which is obviously MUCH MORE CONVENIENT). This repeated FORMAT button use will manually cycle through the complete set of usable output resolutions, until you get to the one that matches the resolution of the program you're currently watching. This is really "native" result in that output resolution matches source resolution, but it was implemented by you manually rather than by the box automatically.

In other words, you don't want to have the DVR upconvert/interlace 720p to 1080i, and feed this 1080i to the Oppo 103 where it gets upconverted/deinterlaced to 1080p for delivery to your HDTV. This is two upconversions plus an interlace and deinterlace process. You won't like the results.

Instead, you want to have the DVR deliver 720p HDTV as "native" output 720p to the 103, where it gets upconverted to 1080p for delivery to your HDTV with ZERO interlacing/deinterlacing. Use the FORMAT button on the DVR to select 720p as your output resolution from the DVR.

And if your source HDTV program was 1080i, you want to have the DVR deliver 1080i HDTV as "native" output 1080i to the 103, where it gets upconverted/deinterlaced to 1080p for delivery to your HDTV. Use the FORMAT button on the DVR to select 1080i as your output resolution from the DVR.

That's what I do. Except that I don't have a DVR, and my HDTV "delivery device" is a Linksys DMA2100 (Windows Media Center Extender) connected to my HTPC... but the concept is the same, and there is no "native" available. So I have to manually switch output resolution on the DMA2100 between 720p and 1080i.

I've proven it to myself, that the upconvert/cleanup for 720p/1080i HDTV provided by the 103 makes me thankful I invested in this upgrade. Just feed it true 720p or 1080i (untouched, to match the source program resolution) out of your DVR, set the 103 to "AUTO" to do the upconvert to 1080p, and enjoy the 1080p results out the other end on your display.

 

Thanks bluechunks ...!