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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

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Can i connect the low speed devices such as power conditioner into the router ports and free up some ports on the 8-port switch or is it better to have all E-connections on the switch. I'd hate to have the 4 GbE ports empty on the router if i could use them for something useful.
Yes, you can do that, though I'd probably keep everything on the switch until you actually run out of ports.
post #5042 of 16442
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

That's definitely unusual. Sounds like the TV is keeping its HDMI Input live for that 45 seconds after it is turned off. I've no idea why it would want to do that.

The other possibility is that your Receiver is reacting slowly.

Normally the re-handshake when the TV goes away (i.e., when it is no longer the end of the HDMI chain) happens immediately.
--Bob
thanks, Bob. at least verified the same hiccup happens on a Toshiba hd-dvd a35 when I turn the tv off, so nothing to do with how the oppo handles the handshake.
Wonder if the tv is doing something like a shutdown and the hdmi handshake is the last thing but it does seem slow. would the receiver pass the hdmi handshake to each hdmi input serially? there are tivos on the 1st 2 ports of the receiver so the oppo would be the 3rd to maybe see it? Could try unplugging the 2 tivo cables and seeif it appears faster but not much reason other than curiosity.
post #5043 of 16442
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Originally Posted by hayesaud View Post

Does anyone know if there are any plans for a firmware upgrade that will add Hulu Plus to the 103? A friend of mine has a 2 year old Samsung player and recently got an upgrade that added this. I have to watch Hulu on my Sony EX700 and would sure like to watch it on my 70" Elite and Oppo 103. 1.gif

OPPO is constantly looking to add additional, popular Internet Services, but you need to understand that this is not something OPPO can do unilaterally. Not even considering contract negotiation issues, to add a service requires cooperation from the service provider -- who actually provides the app software, and who usually insists on "certification" testing before a candidate app can go live.

Getting the service provider's attention long enough to make that happen is often the biggest stumbling block.

Typically, even if there is work chugging along towards a new app release, the service provider will prohibit OPPO announcing that fact until AFTER the new app is certified. So you won't find OPPO talking about upcoming service additions.

Which is the long way 'round to saying, "no news".

In the interim, if you get the optional Roku Streaming Stick (or a stand-alone Roku box), there's a Hulu+ app available for those.
--Bob
post #5044 of 16442
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Originally Posted by konoyaro View Post

I've had my BDP-103 for a couple months now and I've been enjoying it. When I previously bought a BDP-83 I updated it with a region / zone kit from jvb digital. While I owned the unit, I never had any problems despite applying numerous firmware updates to the BDP-83.

I'm planning to similarly modify my BDP-103 and am wondering what the current consensus is for trouble free playback - bluraychip or jvb digital? I seem to recall one of them had been inadvertently affected by firmware releases and hope to avoid a similar problem.

Thanks!

A third option to consider - there's a mod available on ebay which can be attached using only exterior inputs, (the RS-232 port and the
rear usb port) no need to open the machine. The version I had for my 93 worked flawlessly for years and through updates, and so far the
103 version is working perfectly as well.

It's also cheaper than the other mods.

I bought it from imegstore. I do notice that the price has gone up, so you might contact them to make sure it's the same
unit with the exterior installation option. (You can also do a very simple internal install, if you don't want to use your RS and
USB ports for this)
post #5045 of 16442
I wish they'd include a generic web radio player, rather than Pandora, in the EU firmware. I can only use Netflix and Youtube here in Sweden so the other services are pretty much useless inclusions. VTuner or TuneIn would be nice, or something else where I can just add my own web radio links without having to pay a subscription fee. Many AVRs have this feature so why not the Oppo?
post #5046 of 16442
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Originally Posted by loopaddiction View Post

Question: Can the BDP-103 read data DVD-R's and BD-R's? Like if I was to burn a few of my own Blu-Ray rips onto a single BD-R, can it play those movies like it would off a USB flash drive?
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

Yes

I just tried this out and it doesn't seem to work.

First I wanted to test it out by burning one of my dvd encodes onto a data dvd, and I had no problem playing back the file off the disc. Next, I threw a few of my live concert Blu-Ray rips onto a data BD-R for my father and none of the movies work. I get the "file format not supported" pop-up. The Oppo recognizes the disc and i'm able to browse through the folders, but the videos won't play. I verified that the problem weren't the files as I transferred those some files to a flash drive and played them back on the BDP-103 with no issue (they're ~5-8gb x264 MKV's by the way.) The problem also isn't the disc as i'm able to play the videos through my computer's BD drive. I've also updated to the latest firmware.

Anybody have a clue what's going on?
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^ I don't believe there is any support for playing more than one BDMV from a single shiny disc. I suspect this is a limitation of the Blu-ray licensing, but I don't really know.
--Bob
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Finally took the plunge on the 103 after eying both the 93, and now 103 for sometime. Thanks to everyone on this forum for the terrific information! Friday can't come soon enough!
post #5049 of 16442
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ I don't believe there is any support for playing more than one BDMV from a single shiny disc. I suspect this is a limitation of the Blu-ray licensing, but I don't really know.
--Bob

Hi Bob,

They're not BDMV's though, they're self-ripped MKV files on a 25gb data BD-R (similar to putting multiple MKV files on a USB flash drive.)
post #5050 of 16442
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Originally Posted by loopaddiction View Post


Hi Bob,

They're not BDMV's though, they're self-ripped MKV files on a 25gb data BD-R (similar to putting multiple MKV files on a USB flash drive.)

An MKV that works on USB should work on optical disc. If it doesn't you need to contact OPPO support and offer them a sample disc.

-Bill
post #5051 of 16442
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Originally Posted by Recstar24 View Post

Hdmi input. Works really nice with cable, other than handshake quirks.

What cable provider do you have?
post #5052 of 16442
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Originally Posted by Carl R View Post

I wish they'd include a generic web radio player, rather than Pandora, in the EU firmware. I can only use Netflix and Youtube here in Sweden so the other services are pretty much useless inclusions. VTuner or TuneIn would be nice, or something else where I can just add my own web radio links without having to pay a subscription fee. Many AVRs have this feature so why not the Oppo?
Agreed...
post #5053 of 16442
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

Thanks DSperber, JazzGuy, Terry Mann, Ajaxmike and darkphader for your great answers to my Ethernet port multiplier issue...Awesome guys you must be in person:D !!!

So, to summarize, i'd do the following?

1.  Connect all of my current ethernet connections(Oppo, CableTV, Power Conditioner and Synology NAS) into the new switch. I'm leaning towards the TRENDnet 8-port GREENnet switch as its about $30, supports ethernet Jumbo Frames(9K) and runs much much cooler than the Netgear ones which run rather hot (one of the major complaints on Amazon reviews). Thanks for the GS105 recommendation DSperber as i compared it TRENDnet on features and reviews on Amazon....

I have this switch also. I haven't had any issues with it.
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2.  Connect the cable modem feed that was the major input into the wireless router into the TRENDnet switch as well, right?

3.  Connect a new ethernet cable from one of the switch ports into the now empty Netgear wireless router 4GbE ports or its input Internet Port(marked in yellow on my router)?

I am not sure if I am following, but the gist should be to connect one of your router's ethernet ports to the switch. Typically the yellow port on most routers is your incoming internet and you should leave that as it is.
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4.  Do i have to configure the TRENDnet switch on my laptop somehow or in the Netger configuration settings somehow or just leave it alone as it just plain works as is?

No there isn't any configuration you need to do. Just wire everything up and things should just work out of the box.
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I apologize for the simpleton questions but i'm not a Net geek at all, despite having advanced degrees in Electrical Engineering and Engineer Physics:o !

(Just got my Synology NAS last week and figuring out(with Tech Support) why the thing is so slow transferring files at a measly 30MB/sec instead of 100MB/s or more. I think this thing is Unix and i don't speak Unix with its weird  & arcane command line language, though it has anice GUI. Pashtun anyone???smile.gif ).
post #5054 of 16442
Does the oppo 103 ship from oppo with spears & munsil test disc? I have the sony790 and the oppo is such a well built player, it's hard to turn down, i'm sitting here staring at my shopping cart ready to hit the buy button with next day delivery in time for super bowl. in the 30 day guarantee it says if not happy send back with test disc unopened, that's why i'm asking..
post #5055 of 16442
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Originally Posted by buckley44 View Post

Does the oppo 103 ship from oppo with spears & munsil test disc? I have the sony790 and the oppo is such a well built player, it's hard to turn down, i'm sitting here staring at my shopping cart ready to hit the buy button with next day delivery in time for super bowl. in the 30 day guarantee it says if not happy send back with test disc unopened, that's why i'm asking..

No, that was free with the BDP-83 only. You can order it separately from OPPO, though.

-Bill
post #5056 of 16442
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Originally Posted by bolmsted View Post

Only Best Rated in Canada is showing an Oppo BDP-103 Region Free Kit. Has anyone tried?

http://www.onlybestrated.com/region-free-external-internal-kit-for-oppo-bdp-103.html

This seems to be the same kit I got off ebay, and it is working well on my 103.
I had a similar kit on my 93 and that worked great as long as I had the 93.
post #5057 of 16442
Got a quick question I was hoping some of you guys may be able to help me out with. I have been pondering getting a region free BD player and was checking out offerings from that 202 site and Bombay site. The problem I have is paying $300 for a $100 BD player that is hardware modded. I was thinking it might make more sense to save up a bit and get an OPPO 103 for the $500 price tag and get the very easy to install kit for it for about $80. My main question, is this all that you need?

I know that the ones on the websites that pre-modify them talk about PAL/NTSC conversion and I was wondering if the OPPO players already have this ability from the factory or if you need to also add this converter also. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
post #5058 of 16442
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Originally Posted by buckley44 View Post

Does the oppo 103 ship from oppo with spears & munsil test disc? I have the sony790 and the oppo is such a well built player, it's hard to turn down, i'm sitting here staring at my shopping cart ready to hit the buy button with next day delivery in time for super bowl. in the 30 day guarantee it says if not happy send back with test disc unopened, that's why i'm asking..

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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

No, that was free with the BDP-83 only. You can order it separately from OPPO, though.

-Bill

I'm thinking the S&M BD is out of print and not available. They have a new disc coming out later this year with 3D tests and other new goodies.
post #5059 of 16442
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Originally Posted by Smigro View Post

Got a quick question I was hoping some of you guys may be able to help me out with. I have been pondering getting a region free BD player and was checking out offerings from that 202 site and Bombay site. The problem I have is paying $300 for a $100 BD player that is hardware modded. I was thinking it might make more sense to save up a bit and get an OPPO 103 for the $500 price tag and get the very easy to install kit for it for about $80. My main question, is this all that you need?

I know that the ones on the websites that pre-modify them talk about PAL/NTSC conversion and I was wondering if the OPPO players already have this ability from the factory or if you need to also add this converter also. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

The Oppo converts PAL<->NTSC on the fly, as well as 50<->60 Hz HD video, or it can output either type natively.

As for the mod kits, do your homework as some are more troublesome than others, and some have poor support.
post #5060 of 16442
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Originally Posted by zybar View Post

I am a long time Denon 3808 owner and the unit has worked flawlessly in my HT for years. In the past few weeks I purchased an Epson 6020 pj (to replace my 3 yr old Epson 8500UB) and an Oppo 103. My plan was to run the HDMI 1 output from the Oppo to the pj so I can get 3D video and to have HDMI 2 ouput to the 3808 for audio only. On paper this looked like a great solution to extend the life of the 3808 and not replace it.

However, when I tried this last night I was able to get the picture working fine, but no audio. :-(

I played around in both the Denon 3808 and Oppo 103 menus, but still no audio.

I really want this to work as I don't want to buy a newer Denon AVR just so I can have 3D video.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance for your help and input.

George

You might have the same issue i have. I have a similar setup, but i also have the AVR HDMI output to the same TV on a different port than the Oppo. (used for all my other sources and the AVR menu)

If/when i unplug the AVR from the TV, both picture and sound work perfect.

Let me know if that is the problem, you didn't mention how other sources are hooked up?
post #5061 of 16442
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

The Oppo converts PAL<->NTSC on the fly, as well as 50<->60 Hz HD video, or it can output either type natively.

As for the mod kits, do your homework as some are more troublesome than others, and some have poor support.

Thank you Grimes...I thought that was the case but wanted to make sure.

As far as getting the mod kit, do have a specific company you suggest? By doing a quick Google search I came up with this company which seems to be an easy plug and play kit and from wha tI have found a company that most people deal with.

http://www.jvbdigital.nl/jvb.asp?cur=2&level=modifications&page=title&title=1234

Or this one from ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/OPPO-BDP-103-DVD-Blu-ray-Region-Free-Hardware-Modification-Kit-/160942653070?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2578edfe8e
post #5062 of 16442
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Originally Posted by Smigro View Post

As far as getting the mod kit, do have a specific company you suggest? By doing a quick Google search I came up with this company which seems to be an easy plug and play kit and from wha tI have found a company that most people deal with.

I don't use any of them. In general it seems that the "Pro" kits cause the most problems and cost the most. The "bluraychip.dk" company seems to have the worst support.
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

I don't use any of them. In general it seems that the "Pro" kits cause the most problems and cost the most. The "bluraychip.dk" company seems to have the worst support.

Thanks a lot for the response. Sometimes I wish I would have never learned about this so I would not have to do it, but since being introduced to all of the cool steelbooks that are out now (and the coolest ones are in the UK and Europe) I have been looking for a way to play those BD's.

Does anyone else on here have any personal experiences with this JVB company. Good or bad does not matter, I am just trying to figure out if it is worth it to do this, bag the whole idea or get a pre-modified player from 202 or Bombay for a few hundred bucks.
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I don't have any experience with the JVB company but my 103 came with their standard mod already installed by the seller. So far I've only tried it with DVDs from different regions and they work. Switching BD zones requires a reboot of the player.
post #5065 of 16442
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Originally Posted by loopaddiction View Post

Hi Bob,

They're not BDMV's though, they're self-ripped MKV files on a 25gb data BD-R (similar to putting multiple MKV files on a USB flash drive.)

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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

An MKV that works on USB should work on optical disc. If it doesn't you need to contact OPPO support and offer them a sample disc.

-Bill

I just checked a BD-ROM with a BD rip MKV burned to it, it plays fine.

I can see 2 possible issues causing failed playback: One is that the formatting on the BD-ROM was incorrect, and the other is that you were accessing the disc through some other pathway besides the "Movie" pathway. If you use the "music" pathway for example, video files will not play.

I use Nero to burn a BD-ROM with "auto UDF" formatting.
post #5066 of 16442
Hey guys

I just took my 103 and ran the hdmi straight to the receiver, I have a denon avr3310CI, and I was using HDMI 2 for audio, but that lip sync issue was driving me nuts.. did they ever mention a firmware update that was coming, or was already done? Basically, I traded off 3D (since the denon cannot pass 3d) for the audio to be spot on.

I am not sure if this was covered, but I really did not want to dig through 170 pages to find out.

Thanks
Steve
post #5067 of 16442
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Originally Posted by Carl R View Post

I don't have any experience with the JVB company but my 103 came with their standard mod already installed by the seller. So far I've only tried it with DVDs from different regions and they work. Switching BD zones requires a reboot of the player.

When you say the sellers standard mod, I am guessing you did not get this straight through Oppo. Would you mind sharing who you bought yours from?
post #5068 of 16442
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Originally Posted by Smigro View Post

Thanks a lot for the response. Sometimes I wish I would have never learned about this so I would not have to do it, but since being introduced to all of the cool steelbooks that are out now (and the coolest ones are in the UK and Europe) I have been looking for a way to play those BD's.

Does anyone else on here have any personal experiences with this JVB company. Good or bad does not matter, I am just trying to figure out if it is worth it to do this, bag the whole idea or get a pre-modified player from 202 or Bombay for a few hundred bucks.

Just my personal experience, but I've bought two kits from imegstore.com on ebay, one for my 93 and one for my 103. The thing I love about
them is you don't have to open your machine, but can just plug one end into the R-232 slot, and the other into the rear usb port.

The 93 version worked well from when I got it, up to when I upgraded to the 103 (the one time it didn't got a fast fix from the seller) and the 103 is working fine so far.

They also sell for about $70, so they're not a huge cost.

Apparently they're also sold at http://www.onlybestrated.com/region-free-external-internal-kit-for-oppo-bdp-103.html

Obviously your milage may vary, but they've worked well for me, and I like not opening the player and messing with the innards.

That said, if you want/need to keep your R-232 or rear usb port open, there is a very easy looking internal installation you can do as
an alternate with the same kit.
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Originally Posted by Sidetracked View Post

Just my personal experience, but I've bought two kits from imegstore.com on ebay, one for my 93 and one for my 103. The thing I love about
them is you don't have to open your machine, but can just plug one end into the R-232 slot, and the other into the rear usb port.

The 93 version worked well from when I got it, up to when I upgraded to the 103 (the one time it didn't got a fast fix from the seller) and the 103 is working fine so far.

They also sell for about $70, so they're not a huge cost.

Apparently they're also sold at http://www.onlybestrated.com/region-free-external-internal-kit-for-oppo-bdp-103.html

Obviously your milage may vary, but they've worked well for me, and I like not opening the player and messing with the innards.

That said, if you want/need to keep your R-232 or rear usb port open, there is a very easy looking internal installation you can do as
an alternate with the same kit.

Thank you for the response. I will have to save that eBay sellers name for future reference when I am ready to buy.
post #5070 of 16442
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

Can i connect the low speed devices such as power conditioner into the router ports and free up some ports on the 8-port switch or is it better to have all E-connections on the switch. I'd hate to have the 4 GbE ports empty on the router if i could use them for something useful.
The "port multiplier" effect of the switch really has just increased the number of wired ports available through your router (just the same as if they were additional wired ports actually on your router), subject to the one obvious consideration that the net sum total traffic from the total of all the real downstream devices connected to the other ports on the switch are all going to have to be communicated (in both directions) over the one Ethernet cable connecting the switch to one true LAN port on the router.

And since that one LAN port is limited to one gigabit speeds, so must the net sum total of all your downstream devices through the switch not simultaneously exceed that total one gigabit bandwidth limit possible over the one connector cable from the switch to the router. This is actually very unlikely in the current situation, since these devices are all potentially talking through the Internet to some web-based server, and thus everything is really being limited to your Internet ISP download/upload speed which is the total max that can really be happening through all of this equipment and cabling.

Other than that, each switch port might just as well have been a real additional port on your router or on the switch... no effective difference.

Given choices and options, I'd reserve the other router ports (which are individually gigabit pathways) to other home computers on your LAN (laptops or desktops), which themselves have built-in gigabit-speed NIC adapters in them so they can really talk to each other through the router at true internal LAN gigabit speeds (e.g. when you do a file transfer from one PC to another across your home network). Of course this might not always reach such speeds, e.g. if you don't have CAT5e or CAT6 cable in your home LAN, or if the nature of the file transfer involves "block transfers" and software running in both machines that just brings down the maximum theoretically possible speed to something more realistic in the real world.

In other words, use the switch for "ordinary devices", especially those that talk to the Internet, since they could never possibly see gigabit speeds anyway... although they still are not really limited because you do have a gigabit-capable switch.

Your home LAN is all based off that one router which is connected through its WAN port to the cable modem, and through its LAN ports (and wirelessly as well) to everything in your house. The switch provides the "port multiplier" effect so that you can have more wired devices connected to the router than just the four ports actually on the router.

The router provides "hardware firewall" protection for everything inside on your home LAN, so that no unsolicited outside access is possible to the inside devices unless you configure the router (and related software on the target devices) to allow that. That's why you really only normally want one router (and thus only this one firewall) in your home LAN. All internal devices can connect directly to the router or to switches connected to the router, and receive the common firewall protections afforded by the one router. If you had multiple routers then all devices behind the downstream routers would be "hidden" by the firewall in that downstream router, something that is very likely not a good thing for your LAN design. Hence: use switches internally, not routers.

The router assigns IP addresses (via DHCP, i.e. dynamically assigned IP addresses as each new device gets connected/disconnected... subject to optional "individual static IP address reservation by individual hardware MAC address" if you need or want it for some reason) to all devices on your LAN, including those seen through the switch. But the assigned IP addresses are for internal use only, within the LAN itself. These addresses are not known or seen outside the router (i.e. from the Internet), by virtue of the firewall and its purpose. The internal IP address assignment is so that the router can talk to each device as necessary, and so that each device can also talk to every other device on the LAN if desired.

And the router also provides itself as a general "gateway" to the outside Internet world, for all devices on your internal home LAN to be able to share Internet access through the cable modem to the world outside. The switch simply provides a "collection point" for multiple downstream devices to each gain wired access to the router through one cable connecting each device to the switch, and then through the one master cable connecting the switch to the router (and to everything in the Internet beyond, through the cable modem and service from your ISP... which of course is part of still larger networks and routers out there and beyond).

(I know... a bit OT. Sorry.)
Edited by DSperber - 1/30/13 at 2:03pm
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