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post #5101 of 16441
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Originally Posted by ss3740 View Post

I have a couple week old 103 . The Denon 4520 that I have it hooked to will only play Zones with a Anolog source. ( So I have been told on this forum) I have HDMI for my Audio going to the Denon, but when I hook-up the Analogs out for my Zone ( the 2 left and right ones on the right side) ,..I get a hum. Pretty noticeable.If I hook up my cable box to the same input on the Denon, (CD) , I get a clean quite cable box audio,so it has to be the Oppo. And I tried different cables.... Anybody ever run in to this ?

Do some searches and reading on "ground loop hum", you'll find your answer. Analog connections transmit the hum, digital connections don't. However, digital connections can and do transmit the ground potential that causes hum. More often than not, your cable feed from outside the house is the source of the ground potential, and the solution may lie with grounding that line where it enters the house.

If you have analog audio outputs on the cable box, sometimes you can eliminate the loop by connecting those to the AVR - even if you don't use them.
post #5102 of 16441
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Originally Posted by jmschnur View Post

I just ordered a 103 to replace my 83. My integra 80.2 will not let me have one HDMI for video and one for audio simulataneusly. what is my best setup to enable dsd for my SACDs?

Joel

Simply use HDMI-1 to the AVR. You don't want to connect both HDMI outs to the AVR in any case, one would go to the TV if you need that. There's nothing to be gained by sending DSD to the AVR, so just using HDMI-1 with PCM output is adequate.
post #5103 of 16441
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

Simply use HDMI-1 to the AVR. You don't want to connect both HDMI outs to the AVR in any case, one would go to the TV if you need that. There's nothing to be gained by sending DSD to the AVR, so just using HDMI-1 with PCM output is adequate.

Thanks,
I'll just use the HDMI to the 4520. Someone on the Denon thread told me that would not work (running the Zones) with a 4520. I thought that was silly for them to build a new amp that has to be run in that manner...Thanks.
post #5104 of 16441
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Originally Posted by Johninlancaster View Post

Hello everyone. Newbie on this forum, though I've been reading all of the posts in this thread for the past few days. Coincidentally or not, I've also had a headache for the past few days. At any rate, I'm excited in that my new 103 will arrive tomorrow. The posts I have read have been extremely helpful, but I do have a question that I don't believe has been completely addressed. Currently, I have a Classe CA-2100 amp, and use a Yamaha RX-V3800 as an AVR. My current setup is: DirecTV PVR, Sony BDP, Sony VCR, Pioneer LDP (yeah, I'm old), and a Boxee Box (for streaming media from my NAS) connected to the Yamaha, with HDMI out to the Samsung display. Harmony One remote controls everything. I was thinking for upconverting video from the other sources (other than the Sony BDP, which will be going away) that I could continue to run all of the other devices to the Yamaha, run the HDMI output from the Yamaha to the 103, and run HDMI 1 to the Samsung and HDMI 2 back to the Yamaha (which would only be active if the Yamaha is set on BluRay). That way, all video sources would run through the 103 for upconverting without trying to connect them all to the 103. All other settings on the Yamaha would be the same (i.e., selecting the appropriate source depending upon the device selected). Do you think this would work, or will I potentially cause some sort of loop that would cause a rip in the space/time continuum?

Thanks, all, for your reply. This has been a very useful forum to read.

I run mine the same way; you just need to remember what audio source to set your AVR to as I've gotten myself confused why my audio was coming from my TV and NOTHING from my 5.1 setup till I realized I had the AVR dialed to the wrong setting!
post #5105 of 16441
Just finished watching Total Recall Japanese version,Had lip-sync issues twice so I pressed the stop button then played it and everything was back to normal.

Does that happen with every blu-ray movie I'm going to watch and can it be solved through a F/W update?

I thought only the U.S version where the one's with the lip-sync issue's,well I can confirm the Japanese has it as well,or probably just zone A
post #5106 of 16441
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Originally Posted by BadClams View Post

I run mine the same way; you just need to remember what audio source to set your AVR to as I've gotten myself confused why my audio was coming from my TV and NOTHING from my 5.1 setup till I realized I had the AVR dialed to the wrong setting!

Thank you very much. I thought this would work but wanted to make sure. This time tomorrow night I will be playing in the spaghetti!
post #5107 of 16441
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by oddmania View Post

Just finished watching Total Recall Japanese version,Had lip-sync issues twice so I pressed the stop button then played it and everything was back to normal.

Does that happen with every blu-ray movie I'm going to watch and can it be solved through a F/W update?

There is known, exclusive, A/V sync issue with Total Recall which affect the BDP-10x series of players where is drifts out of sync. This will be resolved along with the general A/V sync issues that people have been experiencing through the next firmware release
post #5108 of 16441
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Originally Posted by Carl R View Post

I wish they'd include a generic web radio player, rather than Pandora, in the EU firmware. I can only use Netflix and Youtube here in Sweden so the other services are pretty much useless inclusions. VTuner or TuneIn would be nice, or something else where I can just add my own web radio links without having to pay a subscription fee. Many AVRs have this feature so why not the Oppo?
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Originally Posted by SeeMoreDigital View Post

Agreed...

I agree too.
I have been using Roku stick for radio (smooth jazz) via the Tunein free service. Of the 15 remaining smooth jazz stations in the US, only about two stations stream via Tunein. I am happy to hear those two, however. However Tunein with Roku stick is a little buggy and sometimes takes a good while for stations to buffer when changing stations.
Edited by HDTBill - 1/31/13 at 6:30pm
post #5109 of 16441
The HDMI cable supplied with the Oppo was so heavy-duty, I was afraid I might break my HDMI input slot over on the TV (55ST50). This is partially due to a long stretch I have from Oppo to the TV. Anyways as a short term fix, I picked up a 6.4-ft SONY Slim HDMI cable at Walmart ($34).

Below is a post I made on that SONY slim cable, giving specs, and asking for reviews. Seems to work fine, so far all I have done with it is play the AVSHD 709 calibration disk. It's just hard to believe such a thin cable can replace such a thick cable. The slim cable is so nice. Any probs foreseen with the Oppo?

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1454968/sony-slim-hdmi-cable-any-reviews
post #5110 of 16441
The only problem is spending $34 on an HDMI cable.

Monoprice.com is your friend.

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post #5111 of 16441
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

You can connect large drives, but there is a limitation in the current firmware to 2TB partition size. Thus you will need to break larger drives into separate partitions, each 2TB or smaller. Each such partition, when formatted, will appear to the OPPO to be a separate drive. You must use GPT (GUID on the Mac) as the method for the partitioning table in order to allow partitions this size.

I believe OPPO still hopes to be able to remove this limitation to 2 TB partitions in future firmware.
--Bob
I just wanted to thank you Bob for your wise advice,shall be working on the Hard drives this this weekend,and wanted to say W O W,I connected my Oppo 103 that I received today to my Panasonic 55VT50 and my Bell DVR to the Oppo,watched "The Avengers in 3D and caught a hockey game on my DVR…The Oppo has transformed what I thought was a "Fantastic" picture into "PURE BLISS"biggrin.gif,I can hardly wait till my Denon4311CI,gets out of the shop or I decide to upgrade to the Denon4520CI and adding a another subwoofer,+ 4 more speakers to get the full 11.2 theatre experience from the Oppo 103….Hmmm,maybe a pre-amp as well:roll eyes:? Until I subscribed to AVS,I'd never heard of Oppo,but this forum has taught me so much ,I just wanted to thank everyone thats made posts here or replied to my post.I feel so blessed:)
Edited by Ricker62 - 2/1/13 at 1:44am
post #5112 of 16441
Bill

I tried the sorting command ( vfs objects = dirsort) in my ReadyNAS. Now all my DLNA clients sees the files in the right sorting. However now I cannot access the shares using SMB. I tried all users (admin, root, gusets, nobody) and they do not let me in the shares in the ReadyNAS Any comments?

regards
post #5113 of 16441
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Originally Posted by cabu8803 View Post

Bill

I tried the sorting command ( vfs objects = dirsort) in my ReadyNAS. Now all my DLNA clients sees the files in the right sorting. However now I cannot access the shares using SMB. I tried all users (admin, root, gusets, nobody) and they do not let me in the shares in the ReadyNAS Any comments?

regards

Welcome to AVSForum.

That parameter is for the SMB server; it should have no effect on DLNA.

Are you saying SMB was working before the change and stopped working after?

-Bill
post #5114 of 16441
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Welcome to AVSForum.

That parameter is for the SMB server; it should have no effect on DLNA.

Are you saying SMB was working before the change and stopped working after?

-Bill

Thanks for the propmpt answer. I noticed the sorting issue when navigating the files using a DLNA, but I was also having it when browsing the files using SMB access. Then, I applied the command in the samba.cnf file in my readynas. I can now acces the files using DLNA and the files are sorted correctly, but when trying to access the same files using SMB, Oppo now asks for a user and password. Before the command entered in samba.cnf I needed no user nor password to access the files. I tried all users (admin, root, nobody) with no success.

Regards
post #5115 of 16441
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Originally Posted by cabu8803 View Post


Thanks for the propmpt answer. I noticed the sorting issue when navigating the files using a DLNA, but I was also having it when browsing the files using SMB access. Then, I applied the command in the samba.cnf file in my readynas. I can now acces the files using DLNA and the files are sorted correctly, but when trying to access the same files using SMB, Oppo now asks for a user and password. Before the command entered in samba.cnf I needed no user nor password to access the files. I tried all users (admin, root, nobody) with no success.

Regards

That's two mysteries:

(1) Why a change to the Samba parameters changes DLNA sorting. Do you know what DLNA server is being used? Do you somehow have it set to access SMB on the same server?

(2) Why SMB authentication has changed. Does the NAS come with some sort of control panel? Perhaps it objects to changing server configuration behind the scenes.

SMB authentication still needs some work on the OPPO side and we are hoping for future improvements.

-Bill
post #5116 of 16441
Just updated to Windows 8 Pro and the 103 no longer been able to access with SMB.

My media files are on an external HDD connected to my laptop. The HDD is shared at root with permission for everyone.

The SMB was working fine with my previous OS (XP).

I had been emailing with Oppo and they gave me 2 suggestions which can't solve the problem.

Here are their suggestions:

1. Try entering the username as Comptuer name\Username.

You can find your computer name by pressing Windows Key + F. Now type "Computer Name" without quotes. You should see a result of "See the name of the computer". A new window will appear and at the bottom the Computer name.

So you would enter something like "OPPO\BDP103" (without quotes) if the computer name was OPPO and the username which has enabled all sharing was BDP103.

2. Please try going to the following website (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2696547?wa=wsignin1.0) and disabling SMBv2 and SMBv3 and enable SMBv1 and see if this resolves your errors.

I tried both and the Oppo still can't log me in. BTW, DLNA works fine.

After some digging through Google, I also tried the following method:

Disable "Secure Negotiate" on the client.
You can do this using PowerShell on a Windows Server 2012 or Windows 8
client, using the command:

Set-ItemProperty -Path
"HKLM:\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\LanmanWorkstation\Parameters"
RequireSecureNegotiate -Value 0 -Force

No joy again.

I am at lost here. Anyone can help?

Thanks

BTW, my windows 8 login is a local account not a live account.
Edited by j3390659 - 2/1/13 at 6:24am
post #5117 of 16441
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

That's two mysteries:

(1) Why a change to the Samba parameters changes DLNA sorting. Do you know what DLNA server is being used? Do you somehow have it set to access SMB on the same server?

(2) Why SMB authentication has changed. Does the NAS come with some sort of control panel? Perhaps it objects to changing server configuration behind the scenes.

SMB authentication still needs some work on the OPPO side and we are hoping for future improvements.

-Bill

The DLNA server I am using is MediaMonkey (known for not having sorting implemented). MediaMonkey accesses the files (using SMB) on the Shared folder in the ReadyNAS. So I guess that is why the Samba parameters affected the MediaMonkey DLNA.

I think is worth to mention that before making the change in Samba, Oppo was able to access the shares in the ReadyNAS. Interesting to mention that Oppo was able to see not only the public shares but also some other folders that belongs to root and admin. Maybe with the sorting now Oppo is asking for user and password to those non shared folders..I guess you are right when saying that ReadyNAS objects to changing server configuration behind the scenes...

Nevertheless, I am happy as the Oppo can access the DLNA libraries and sees the correct sorting in the files, so I will be accessing the files through DLNA for now. It is just that it will also be nice to have the SMB direct access also working....I will wait then for firmware updates that can fix that

regards
post #5118 of 16441
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Originally Posted by MysteryMachine View Post

Unfortunately I have tried that already... made no difference. Also wouldn't the hiss then be audible even when at 0 volume? The 103 only hisses between 1 and 100 but not at 0 or when muted. When I had a ground loop in my previous house it appeared as soon as I turned on the component.
Are you still dealing with your hiss issue?

I mocked a 'dedicated amp / no preamp' setup last night by invoking volume control on the 103 and cranking my AVR's volume to maximum (I am using the FL and FR analog outputs). I have the same hiss / pop issue.

I strongly doubt it is a setup issue or a 'defective player' issue since so many other people have reported it. My guess is that very few people actually use it this way; most use a dedicated preamp or use one of the the digital outputs from the player (HDMI, optical or coax).
post #5119 of 16441
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Originally Posted by j3390659 View Post

Just updated to Windows 8 Pro and the 103 no longer been able to access with SMB.
...

No joy again.

I am at lost here. Anyone can help?

Thanks

BTW, my windows 8 login is a local account not a live account.

There was a post earlier containing a quote from OPPO, currently Windows 8 is unsupported for SMB on the player. Windows 8 and Mountain Lion use a newer version of SMB which isn't compatible with the player. OPPO are looking into if they can upgrade to a newer version of SMB or not.
post #5120 of 16441
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Originally Posted by Tal L View Post


There was a post earlier containing a quote from OPPO, currently Windows 8 is unsupported for SMB on the player. Windows 8 and Mountain Lion use a newer version of SMB which isn't compatible with the player. OPPO are looking into if they can upgrade to a newer version of SMB or not.

i'm running osx mountain lion and had this problem with the 103.. i got it working using an open source SMB implementation instead of the osx version.. perhaps there's an option like that for windows folks.

post #5121 of 16441
Is there a consensus on how good a job the 103's video processing does on HD content from a DVR via the 103's HDMI input? A big reason for me possibly getting the 103 would be for any increased picture quality on HD content from my Direct TV DVR. My pre/pro does not have any video processing of its own so the signal from the Direct TV DVR would just be passed through to my Panny P60GT50.

Thanks!
post #5122 of 16441
I am experiencing a problem between my BDP-103 and my Yamaha RX-A820 receiver and I don't know which device to blame, nor indeed how to solve it. So I would appreciate some advice here.

When starting to play a movie, the Yamaha has no problem in detecting the video format so the picture is always displayed just fine, however sometimes the Yamaha does not detect the audio format, and therefore the audio is muted. In order to work around this, I have to switch the Yamaha over to another HDMI input, and then back to the HDMI where the Oppo is connected to.

I suppose that the problem is either a) that the Oppo is not properly sending the information about the audio format, and/or b) the Yamaha is not able to understand the information; and in the absence of knowing what the audio format is, the receiver mutes its audio entirely.

This sounds like the kind of thing that could be an interworking bug between the two devices. Is it something I should repoirt to Oppo's R&D department? Or to Yamaha's R&D department? Or alternatively are there some settiongs that I could change on one or other device to eliminate the problem?

Edit: PS I see that there is a Yamaha thread in which something similar is discussed concerning lack of interworking between the Yamaha and the Oppo...
Edited by AndrewFG - 2/1/13 at 10:26am
post #5123 of 16441
I'm experiencing 3 second delay when the movie stars during the company's logo, it's not bothering me that much but any idea how to fix it?
post #5124 of 16441
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Originally Posted by T. Perinne View Post

Is there a consensus on how good a job the 103's video processing does on HD content from a DVR via the 103's HDMI input? A big reason for me possibly getting the 103 would be for any increased picture quality on HD content from my Direct TV DVR. My pre/pro does not have any video processing of its own so the signal from the Direct TV DVR would just be passed through to my Panny P60GT50.

Thanks!

I hooked up my Roger CISCO cable PVR to the front port and I thought I got a better picture. Could have been placebo effect. There appeared to be some handshake issues such as the video would not come on for about 10 seconds after switching to the input and about a 1-2 second delay between changing channels. I disconnected it until Oppo fixes this with future firmware updates.

I have my WDTV Live Hub connected to the rear HDMI in on the 103 and noticed a difererence right away playing my ripped DVD's. It does a very good job , not like Blu Ray quality but much better than DVD.

JJ
post #5125 of 16441
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Originally Posted by T. Perinne View Post

Is there a consensus on how good a job the 103's video processing does on HD content from a DVR via the 103's HDMI input? A big reason for me possibly getting the 103 would be for any increased picture quality on HD content from my Direct TV DVR. My pre/pro does not have any video processing of its own so the signal from the Direct TV DVR would just be passed through to my Panny P60GT50.

Thanks!

I hooked up my Roger CISCO cable PVR to the front port and I thought I got a better picture. Could have been placebo effect. There appeared to be some handshake issues such as the video would not come on for about 10 seconds after switching to the input and about a 1-2 second delay between changing channels. I disconnected it until Oppo fixes this with future firmware updates.

I have my WDTV Live Hub connected to the rear HDMI in on the 103 and noticed a difererence right away playing my ripped DVD's. It does a very good job , not like Blu Ray quality but much better than DVD.

JJ
post #5126 of 16441
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by AndrewFG View Post

I am experiencing a problem between my BDP-103 and my Yamaha RX-A820 receiver and I don't know which device to blame, nor indeed how to solve it. So I would appreciate some advice here.

When starting to play a movie, the Yamaha has no problem in detecting the video format so the picture is always displayed just fine, however sometimes the Yamaha does not detect the audio format, and therefore the audio is muted. In order to work around this, I have to switch the Yamaha over to another HDMI input, and then back to the HDMI where the Oppo is connected to.

Use HDMI 1 for video direct to the display and HDM 2 direct to the receiver for audio. This will fix your issues. The errors were introduced in the 1.64 firmware for your Yamaha. OPPO is looking into possibly resolving this issue through their own firmware, but this is really something that Yamaha should be fixing on their end.
post #5127 of 16441
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by oddmania View Post

I'm experiencing 3 second delay when the movie stars during the company's logo, it's not bothering me that much but any idea how to fix it?

You can try splitting the connection to reduce the handshaking video chain, or use HDMI 2 for all video and audio through the receiver.

In my configuration my Integra adds 3 seconds of delay and my JVC projector adds another 5 seconds of delay. So when I run through the receiver, any change in the resolution or handshake will result in a 7 second loss of video. Rather frustrating, but I am too lazy to use three remotes just to watch a movie.
post #5128 of 16441
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

In my configuration my Integra adds 3 seconds of delay and my JVC projector adds another 5 seconds of delay. So when I run through the receiver, any change in the resolution or handshake will result in a 7 second loss of video. Rather frustrating, but I am too lazy to use three remotes just to watch a movie.

Why can't Oppo add an option to wait for handshakes to complete before starting to play? Maybe it has to be a user-specified number of seconds, since it's probably hard to figure out automatically when the receiver and display are ready. Even when these things are not really the fault of the player, it seems like it's worth providing ways for the user to mitigate the problem. Missing the first few seconds of a movie can be really frustrating.
post #5129 of 16441
Thread Starter 
You usually do not miss the first few seconds of the film because going from the menus to the film usually has at least two more logos these days for copyright notices or the studio logo. It is a bit frustrating, but not immersion breaking.
post #5130 of 16441
I find it's worse for TV series, which often go straight to the action. I've taken to doing the following:

Start the show (knowing that the screen will go blank for 5 -10 seconds).
Immediately press pause.
Wait until the picture comes back.
Resume play, with nothing missed.

Seems like this could be automated.
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