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post #5191 of 9157
So I contacted the guy who did the region mod and he first said I because I live in Canada and oppo server is USA I believed this until I saw that my friends player which is the same as my and get got it from the same guy works great. Any idea if it could be the router problem

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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

If the "Connection Test" in Setup works but you are consistently unable to connect to the firmware update server, then I would suspect the hardware mod is interfering.

Could you contact whoever did the modification and ask them what they know about this?

You can download firmware to USB or optical disc and update that way, but I wonder if this would conflict with the operation of the mod chip?

-Bill

ok ill try to contact the people who done the modification as i got the player though amazon. ca
and one thing u might be able to help me with is on the player when u have the hdmi split in the set up menu are u meant to have the audio and video coming from both of the hdmi???? if so dose this not defeat the purpose of the slit audio and vidio

Many thanks for the help
Edited by essexboy - 2/25/13 at 12:37pm
post #5192 of 9157
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Originally Posted by essexboy View Post


ok ill try to contact the people who done the modification as i got the player though amazon. ca
and one thing u might be able to help me with is on the player when u have the hdmi split in the set up menu are u meant to have the audio and video coming from both of the hdmi???? if so dose this not defeat the purpose of the slit audio and vidio

Many thanks for the help

See the FAQ: How does Dual HDMI Output work?

HDMI always reserves bandwidth for both audio and video; you don't get a quality improvement by splitting them.

PS: "Bob" is the one who writes in complete paragraphs. "Bill" is the one who tersely tells people what they can't have.

-Bill
post #5193 of 9157
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Originally Posted by JohnAV View Post

Something Special: Oppo Digital BDP-103 Blu-ray Player - SoundStage Network - Wes Marshall - February 2013

For example: When a customer needs help, you help them. Period. You will never hear, “We can’t help you. It must be the fault of your receiver".

Sort of. This is the reply I got regrading the hissing problem a few of us have encountered:

"If the hissing issue with the player still occur when connecting through an alternative amplifier, then we would either recommend having the player replaced to ensure that your error is not due to a defective player (we have not had any players returned to us directly with this issue, as we have not determined at this time if these issues are due to a design limitation or a small number of players which are physically defective) or having the player returned for a refund as it will not be compatible with the amplifier that you are trying to mate the player to."

In any case, I say let those who choose to be happy with a $95 Panasonic and those who choose an Oppo mutually agree to disagree which is the better deal. cool.gif
post #5194 of 9157
Can splitting help an AVR that has issues with hdmi jitter and hi res?
post #5195 of 9157
my 103 arrives tomorrow.
Any universal- initial set-up tips I should know?

Also, does anyone run an Apple Tv 3 through the scaler of the 103?
Is it worth the effort?
or should i just leave the Apple Tv going directly into my Kuro as it is?

Thanks.
post #5196 of 9157
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Originally Posted by bokes View Post

my 103 arrives tomorrow.
Any universal- initial set-up tips I should know?

The manual has many Audio setup configurations.

Also see the FAQ: What are the recommended settings for the OPPO BDP-103?

-Bill
post #5197 of 9157
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Originally Posted by bokes View Post

Also, does anyone run an Apple Tv 3 through the scaler of the 103?
Is it worth the effort?
or should i just leave the Apple Tv going directly into my Kuro as it is?
IMHO, leave it direct to the Kuro.

The ATV3 is a 1080p unit and does not have a "native" resolution output setting. Thus, the ATV3 is scaling everything to a specific resolution (usually 1080p) anyway.
post #5198 of 9157
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Originally Posted by RaptorX View Post

I just tried my 103 with an Emotiva amp (300 WPC) yesterday. Same hiss problem, but at lower levels, since the input sensitivity of the Emotiva is much higher.

But the hiss was still too loud and not something I could deal with.

Oppo said the same thing to me regarding duplication and that it might be an incompatibility problem with the particular amp I used yesterday. Phooey. I'm with you; they probably have a trickle of complaints about this and it's not worth their time. 99.9% of users probably go digital or use the analog outs to a preamp or AVR.

Some recommended an attenuator but that would drive the volume too low. We had it at 95% Oppo player volume yesterday so even a 3 db attenuator would make it too quiet.

I'm sending my player back because I don't want to drag this out past the 30-day return window. Maybe some day I'll get another Oppo but for know I'll limp along with my Panny.

Oppo doesn't lie to customers, or sweep things under the rug. If they could duplicate the issue then they would be all over getting it fixed. And you can rest assured they have tried to duplicate it with whatever amps they have in house. But it's very possible the only solution might be to attenuate the output, which will cause more issues than it fixes. I use the analog output into an AVR, and there are no issues at any volume level, even at full volume. No hiss at all.
post #5199 of 9157
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Originally Posted by JohnAV View Post

Something Special: Oppo Digital BDP-103 Blu-ray Player - SoundStage Network - Wes Marshall - February 2013

+1

Jacob
post #5200 of 9157
On my second oppo 103. Have Netflix streaming problem. It will stream movies ok for about a week and then it will go blank (dark screen) as it starts to load the movie. The unit locks up. Have to power it off and back on, go to restore factory default settings and it will steam movies again for about a week and then the process starts all over again. Replaced the hdmi cables twice. The rest of the function are OK just this Netflix start streaming problem. Played with different settings, clear cache, etc to no avail. Oppo CS is of no real help except to sent me a third unit. So much grief from a 500.00 player! Hope someone here can help me.

New HDMI cables, twice.
Factory stock settings.
Set for split A/V, one to T.V the other to AV
post #5201 of 9157
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

The manual has many Audio setup configurations.

Also see the FAQ: What are the recommended settings for the OPPO BDP-103?

-Bill

This is great- one question- Source Direct is the preferred setting when using Blu Ray discs and 1080p with standard DVD....?
post #5202 of 9157
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

Oppo doesn't lie to customers, or sweep things under the rug. If they could duplicate the issue then they would be all over getting it fixed. And you can rest assured they have tried to duplicate it with whatever amps they have in house. But it's very possible the only solution might be to attenuate the output, which will cause more issues than it fixes. I use the analog output into an AVR, and there are no issues at any volume level, even at full volume. No hiss at all.
Agreed. But with most if not all businesses, you work on your biggest issues first and all I'm saying is that this issue isn't big enough to register on their radar. If it were, they would go out and buy an amp that has the reported issue and/or arrange to have a problem player shipped directly to them, even if it was bought through someone else.

The problem doesn't manifest itself when you are using the analog outputs into an AVR since an AVR has a built-in preamp so I'm not surprised you don't hear any hiss.
post #5203 of 9157
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Originally Posted by njrich50 View Post

On my second oppo 103. Have Netflix streaming problem. It will stream movies ok for about a week and then it will go blank (dark screen) as it starts to load the movie. The unit locks up. Have to power it off and back on, go to restore factory default settings and it will steam movies again for about a week and then the process starts all over again. Replaced the hdmi cables twice. The rest of the function are OK just this Netflix start streaming problem. Played with different settings, clear cache, etc to no avail. Oppo CS is of no real help except to sent me a third unit. So much grief from a 500.00 player! Hope someone here can help me.

New HDMI cables, twice.
Factory stock settings.
Set for split A/V, one to T.V the other to AV
Its not the hardware at all, intermittent bug with app and memory management, probably happens when you exit Netflix or power off. It authenticates into interface but doesn't authenticate into stream and stalls. As you say utilize Erase Accounts and Settings under Reset Factory Defaults, loose Netflix account info. After you re-enter account info, it then works. To be fixed in FW. Oppo sending you new units not going to help.
Edited by JohnAV - 2/3/13 at 3:58pm
post #5204 of 9157
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Originally Posted by JohnAV View Post

Its not the hardware at all, intermittent bug with app and memory management, probably happens when you exit Netflix or power off. It authenticates into interface but doesn't authenticate into stream and stalls. As you say utilize Erase Accounts and Settings under Reset Factory Defaults, loose Netflix account info. After you re-enter account info, it then works. To be fixed in FW. Oppo sending you new units not going to help.


When I resest it I keep the user log on. Just reset the factory settings.
post #5205 of 9157
New guy here. Just bought my BDP-103 yesterday, and I am very happy so far.
post #5206 of 9157
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Originally Posted by bokes View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

The manual has many Audio setup configurations.

Also see the FAQ: What are the recommended settings for the OPPO BDP-103?

-Bill

This is great- one question- Source Direct is the preferred setting when using Blu Ray discs and 1080p with standard DVD....?
Use 1080p with both. Source direct is useful for SD DVD disks if you have a better processor than the OPPO.
post #5207 of 9157
For those having issues with MKVs having the wrong playtime and won't navigate correctly. This is a known problem with MKVs muxed with mkvtoolnix 5.8.0 and above. If you can't remember with what version you muxed it, use MediaInfo to find out. You'll have to mux or remux with version 5.7.0 for now to get correctly play time and navigation working correctly.
post #5208 of 9157
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Originally Posted by dstr212 View Post

I have had my Oppo since December and have applied all the firmware with success but, I am having an issue that I can't seem to solve. I previously had a Panasonic DMP-BDT320, enjoyed it, with no issues and was fine until I started reading all of the reviews of the Oppo and Decided to give myself an early Christmas gift. IMHO I think the picture of the Oppo is... softer, for lack of a better word, the detail, clarity and pop I expect is simply not there on Blu-ray, and SD content is improved minimally. Some will say the Panny added sharpness and therefore artifacts but honestly there was no ringing or other artifacts that were noticeable and the only issue I had was motion judder on medium pans which may or may not be the players fault, although this is somewhat better with the Oppo. I actually had to set the sharpness to +1 to get closer to what I would expect but still this wasn't as sharp as the Panny ultimately and anything over +1 added slight ringing. My display is a JVS RS25U. On SD content I had to adjust further, maybe it was the transfer but Saving Private Ryan looked close to awful, especially the first scene with Ryan his white shirt looks ridiculous. I had to lower the sharpness to -1 and change the noise reduction to +2.

My issue is that I have a feeling of deja vu, back when 480p started becoming mainstream in homes, I put up $400 for a Pioneer Elite DVD player because like all a lot of us, I wanted the best available to me, which was supposed to be a big step up from my Sony at the time. However once I got the unit home I was unimpressed in comparison, the picture was "bland" to me and upon calling the dealer, he explained that I might need to adjust to watching a "proper" dvd player with correct flesh tones. So I said fine and ended up sticking with it but always had a nagging in the back of my head, or buyer’s remorse. I am sort of feeling the same way here, I have had my projector ISF calibrated and everything and all I did was a swap players so it’s not the display. Also this issue I think I am experiencing here is less subjective, where color is something each of us might see differently and is ultimately up to the viewer preference in light of standards, focus and clarity is less so and should be relatively uniform, which is why this is bugging me so much.

I would like to first find out if it is something I have setup wrong, I have tried running hdmi audio and video separate to the preamp and pj respectively as well as the single hdmi always with the display running through HDMI 1, anyhow no difference was noticeable. Am I running the HDMI through the correct output? I have the settings on the player at 1080p/ 24hz (Auto)/ 4:4:4.

Secondly, I would like to know is this what I should expect and am I expecting something that can't be delivered, which is possible but like I said I felt the previous player delivered on the clarity but slow/medium pans were an issue.

Thirdly, though not likely, could this simply be a result of expecting something to be good so everyone ( i.e. reviewers) jumps on the bandwagon almost regardless of actual performance, thereby motivating someone like me to buy, but because I am not biased, feel a little disappointed?

Lastly has anyone else experienced this or does anyone have any suggestions to help? Because, I ultimately feel it is something with my settings or setup, I will try to post comparison pics later.

Any help is greatly appreciated, I am just trying to get Blu-ray to look properly sharp first, SD is a whole other disappointment that I will have to deal with, I just feel like for the money and positive reviews, this thing should look distinctly impressive almost out of the box.


My experience with Oppo too is the same. I found the Panasonic bluray player to give a better picture than the Oppo at least on my 46 inch XBR4 TV. I find it hard to understand the benefits of a player 5 times the cost. It could be that the Oppo is better for bigger screens but is not worth it for screens 55 and below.
post #5209 of 9157
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Originally Posted by malcolmp6 View Post

My experience with Oppo too is the same. I found the Panasonic bluray player to give a better picture than the Oppo at least on my 46 inch XBR4 TV. I find it hard to understand the benefits of a player 5 times the cost. It could be that the Oppo is better for bigger screens but is not worth it for screens 55 and below.

Quote malcolmp6: 3/11/2011
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I had the Panny 65 and the Oppo BDP 83 a while back. On my display the Sony 46XBR4 I noticed the panny produced a better image with better contrast and vibrant colors. I found the Oppo to be a little too flat. This is just my opinion. Since then I have stuck with Panasonic for Bluray players. I now have the Panny 210 and I can't be happier. In my opinion also i think the Oppo will really shine when it comes to analog playback because of the superior DACs. HDMI will not make much of a difference.
So are you responding to the BDP-103 thread based on the earlier BDP-83 vs your Panny 65? The difference is that we were using Anchor Bay ABT2010 back then, the BDP-103 uses the Marvell's Kyoto-G2H QDEO now. Just trying to maintain some baseline for comparison here. cool.gif
post #5210 of 9157
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Originally Posted by oddmania View Post

Every thing is connected via HDMI 1 to the AVR,the only delay I've experienced is with total recall.
The rest BD work perfectly, I will try a couple of BD to know for sure if it's from the player or just total recall.
I have the Japanese version of the movie cuz the U.S release has sound delays, but it yurns out even the Japanese version has it.


FYI, Sony will be releasing Total Recall as part of their new "Mastered in 4K" series. Hopefully, they will have resolved the audio dropouts that have been reported on this thread and in the Ripping blu-rays thread. I suggest you return the disc, if possible, and wait for the new release as there doesn't seem to a recall on this title (pun unintended).
post #5211 of 9157
Playing MKVs with subtitles not showing!

I have a 3TB usb hd directly connected to my 103 containing all my media files (MKVs and AVIs). When I play a MKV file which has subtitles (foreign language film with english subtitles), the subtitles don't appear on screen, but the remote's subtitle button shows that the file playing does indeed contain the subtitle tracks. Pressing the info button on remote also confirms that a subtitle track is selected for playback. Odd thing about it is that when I play the same file on my pc using either vlc player or classic cinema media player, the subtitles are present on screen. Using mediainfo on my pc also verifies that the MKV file does contain the subtitle tracks.

My questions:
Why can't the oppo 103 display the subtitles when playing the mkv?
Is this a bug with the oppo that will be fixed in later firmware?
Is the mkv file formatted incorrectly thereby making the subtitle streams incompatible with the oppo's rendering scripts? Anyone have any insight into this matter?
post #5212 of 9157
^ Check that you don't have the Subtitles shifted off the bottom of the screen. Setup > Video Setup > Display Options > Subtitle Shift.
--Bob
Edited by Bob Pariseau - 2/4/13 at 4:07am
post #5213 of 9157
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Originally Posted by jhck66 View Post

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Originally Posted by oddmania View Post

Every thing is connected via HDMI 1 to the AVR,the only delay I've experienced is with total recall.
The rest BD work perfectly, I will try a couple of BD to know for sure if it's from the player or just total recall.
I have the Japanese version of the movie cuz the U.S release has sound delays, but it yurns out even the Japanese version has it.


FYI, Sony will be releasing Total Recall as part of their new "Mastered in 4K" series. Hopefully, they will have resolved the audio dropouts that have been reported on this thread and in the Ripping blu-rays thread. I suggest you return the disc, if possible, and wait for the new release as there doesn't seem to a recall on this title (pun unintended).

Actually Sony *IS* doing a recall of the new "Total Recall". I don't know if they've started shipping the replacement discs yet, but the end of this article will tell you what you need to do to get in the queue for a replacement:

http://thedigitalbits.com/columns/my-two-cents/010713_1200

Spread the word, as Sony really SHOULD have to pay the cost of their poor disc-authoring quality control.
--Bob
post #5214 of 9157
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Originally Posted by rexdragon View Post

Playing MKVs with subtitles not showing!

I have a 3TB usb hd directly connected to my 103 containing all my media files (MKVs and AVIs). When I play a MKV file which has subtitles (foreign language film with english subtitles), the subtitles don't appear on screen, but the remote's subtitle button shows that the file playing does indeed contain the subtitle tracks. Pressing the info button on remote also confirms that a subtitle track is selected for playback. Odd thing about it is that when I play the same file on my pc using either vlc player or classic cinema media player, the subtitles are present on screen. Using mediainfo on my pc also verifies that the MKV file does contain the subtitle tracks.

My questions:
Why can't the oppo 103 display the subtitles when playing the mkv?
Is this a bug with the oppo that will be fixed in later firmware?
Is the mkv file formatted incorrectly thereby making the subtitle streams incompatible with the oppo's rendering scripts? Anyone have any insight into this matter?

 

In addition to Bob's suggestion, you may want to check the format of the subtitles through VLC. Check the codec tab of the Media Information window. The 103 does not support BDPG formatted subtitles. I had an MKV with BPDG subtitles and I had to download an SRT file to supplement those. If you want to do the extra work, you could extract the BDPG and re-mux the video with an SRT formatted subtitle.

post #5215 of 9157
^ I'm pretty sure if the on-screen Info display is showing a subtitle stream as active, then it is in a supported format. But I don't play with these user media subtitle combos, so I could be wrong.

[edited] OK, so I was wrong. biggrin.gif
--Bob
Edited by Bob Pariseau - 2/4/13 at 4:44am
post #5216 of 9157
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ I'm pretty sure if the on-screen Info display is showing a subtitle stream as active, then it is in a supported format. But I don't play with these user media subtitle combos, so I could be wrong.
--Bob

 

I had the exact same behaviour rexdragon described from the 103 for my BPDG format. Hopefully one of our ideas gets him watching again.

post #5217 of 9157
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Originally Posted by AYColumbia View Post

For those having issues with MKVs having the wrong playtime and won't navigate correctly. This is a known problem with MKVs muxed with mkvtoolnix 5.8.0 and above. If you can't remember with what version you muxed it, use MediaInfo to find out. You'll have to mux or remux with version 5.7.0 for now to get correctly play time and navigation working correctly.

Thanks for posting that! Keeping track of the oddball problems introduced in specific versions of the media file authoring tools can be a real chore.
--Bob
post #5218 of 9157
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Originally Posted by zombie1210 View Post

New guy here. Just bought my BDP-103 yesterday, and I am very happy so far.

Welcome to AVS and to this Thread!

It is permitted to hop up and down in glee.
--Bob
post #5219 of 9157
It's true: the On Screen Display will show the existence of subtitles tracks that the player itself cannot display.

PGS/SUP is not supported in MKV containers, but does work in M2TS.

SRT and VOBSUB subtitles work in MKV.

There is a free utility BDSup2Sub that will convert PGS/SUP subtitles to hidef VOBSUB which can then be muxed into the container with mkvmerge.

The results are good but it's a bit of extra work and I've asked for PGS/SUP support. Hidef VOBSUB did not work when the player first appeared but was added in a firmware update. I don't believe it was in the release notes so must be classed as "unofficial".

Standard def VOBSUB as used in DVD has always been supported.

-Bill
post #5220 of 9157
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Originally Posted by njrich50 View Post

When I resest it I keep the user log on. Just reset the factory settings.

The suggestion is to use either the form of Reset Defaults that Erases Account credentials or to use the special item in Setup > Device Setup for de-activating *JUST* Netflix on the 103. Then go into Netflix and re-enter your account credentials. It appears there are some cases where your "what's been viewed" info on the Netflix server and the stuff retained in memory in the OPPO get out of whack and this clears that out. That's just a guess by the way. What's known is that some cases of persistent problems getting Netflix to start stream playback have been cured by this.
--Bob
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