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post #5221 of 9018
2/4/13 at 4:31am
RaptorX,
If you've not done so already, I suggest you check out the Hum & Hiss FAQ in the Audio Theory Forum here. It may be that you have a combination of problems -- the OPPO problem with respect to your first amp PLUS an external problem revealed with your test with the Emotiva. (Thus the lower level of hiss remaining when tried with the Emotiva.)

Hiss often is due to external RF interference, and the most frequent culprit is room light dimmer switches, perhaps in an adjacent room. The FAQ may give you other suggestions as well.
--Bob
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post #5222 of 9018
2/4/13 at 4:40am
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Originally Posted by dstr212 View Post

. . . .

I would like to first find out if it is something I have setup wrong, I have tried running hdmi audio and video separate to the preamp and pj respectively as well as the single hdmi always with the display running through HDMI 1, anyhow no difference was noticeable. Am I running the HDMI through the correct output? I have the settings on the player at 1080p/ 24hz (Auto)/ 4:4:4.

. . . .

First, check that you have things cabled correctly. It is easy to confuse the HDMI 1 and HDMI 2 outputs of the player.

Next, check in the owner's thread for your JVS projector. Although the settings you are using in the OPPO are, indeed, the typically recommended starting point settings, it may be known that your model of projector prefers RGB input (for example) or prefers not to have Deep Color enabled. I'm not talking about trying to transfer specific calibration level settings from someone else projector to yours, but rather whether there is consensus that your projector works "better" with specific video data formats.

Next, what have you done to calibrate the projector? (Keep in mind that as bulbs age, calibration changes too.) The reason I ask is that your specific set of symptoms -- more problem with SD-DVD than with Blu-ray -- are typical when the display calibration is "off" a bit. Due to the lower resolution of SD content, there is *LESS* room for error in display calibration -- i.e., calibration issues are MORE likely to become visible when playing SD content. You might want to consider having an ISF Tech come in and do the job right on your display.
--Bob
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post #5223 of 9018
2/4/13 at 5:14am
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Originally Posted by globalnomad View Post

The 103 does not support BDPG formatted subtitles.

Okay, all of my MKVs which contained subtitles were in fact PGS formatted subtitles. Since the subtitles are okay when using vlc player or classic media player on pc, do you believe there will be a fix forthcoming from oppo probably in a future firmware update?
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post #5224 of 9018
2/4/13 at 5:17am
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Originally Posted by rexdragon View Post


Okay, all of my MKVs which contained subtitles were in fact PGS formatted subtitles. Since the subtitles are okay when using vlc player or classic media player on pc, do you believe there will be a fix forthcoming from oppo probably in a future firmware update?

OPPO doesn't usually talk about future features, so no one can say whether PGS/SUP in MKV will ever be supported. The safest course is to presume it will not be and be pleasantly surprised if it is.

-Bill
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post #5225 of 9018
2/4/13 at 5:57am
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

RaptorX,
If you've not done so already, I suggest you check out the Hum & Hiss FAQ in the Audio Theory Forum here. It may be that you have a combination of problems -- the OPPO problem with respect to your first amp PLUS an external problem revealed with your test with the Emotiva. (Thus the lower level of hiss remaining when tried with the Emotiva.)

Hiss often is due to external RF interference, and the most frequent culprit is room light dimmer switches, perhaps in an adjacent room. The FAQ may give you other suggestions as well.
--Bob
Thanks Bob. I will definitely check that out, although I've already packed up the 103 for return to Amazon.

I thought dimmers caused hum, not hiss, but as I said, I will check it out nonetheless. My cheap Panny won't last forever and I may be going through this same process again some day. biggrin.gif
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post #5226 of 9018
2/4/13 at 6:05am
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Actually Sony *IS* doing a recall of the new "Total Recall". I don't know if they've started shipping the replacement discs yet, but the end of this article will tell you what you need to do to get in the queue for a replacement:

http://thedigitalbits.com/columns/my-two-cents/010713_1200

Spread the word, as Sony really SHOULD have to pay the cost of their poor disc-authoring quality control.
--Bob

That's good to know,Thank's for the info,but since I'm in Kuwait I can't do anything because my copy is from japan and shipping it back will cost more than the BD it self.
Same thing goes when ordering from the U.S unless some time's they offer free shipping and return's.
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post #5227 of 9018
2/4/13 at 8:25am
Some non-news news:

I wrote Oppo to ask where they were on the fact that a number of us had felt the player had to be set at Sharpness +1 to get it 'accurate'
and non-fuzzy.

Here was their reply;

"We are aware of the observations but at this time we do not have any finalized testing done to determine if the HDMI 1 performance is under specification or working
properly to our design implementation. We are still awaiting testing results from the engineers to determine if the HDMI 1 output on the BDP-103 is performing
differently from the BDP-8x and the BDP-9x players, and if yes, what needs to be changed through additional firmware releases to the player."

So, no real update, but at least they are looking into it (although I find it hard to believe that a number of active posters, including Bob Pariseau, who is sort
of the uber voice of the player here are just 'wrong')
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post #5228 of 9018
2/4/13 at 9:09am
Using HDMI 1 to a 55ST50 and playing Samsara all I can say is wow outstanding picture.
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post #5229 of 9018
2/4/13 at 9:48am
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

First, check that you have things cabled correctly. It is easy to confuse the HDMI 1 and HDMI 2 outputs of the player.

Next, check in the owner's thread for your JVS projector. Although the settings you are using in the OPPO are, indeed, the typically recommended starting point settings, it may be known that your model of projector prefers RGB input (for example) or prefers not to have Deep Color enabled. I'm not talking about trying to transfer specific calibration level settings from someone else projector to yours, but rather whether there is consensus that your projector works "better" with specific video data formats.

Next, what have you done to calibrate the projector? (Keep in mind that as bulbs age, calibration changes too.) The reason I ask is that your specific set of symptoms -- more problem with SD-DVD than with Blu-ray -- are typical when the display calibration is "off" a bit. Due to the lower resolution of SD content, there is *LESS* room for error in display calibration -- i.e., calibration issues are MORE likely to become visible when playing SD content. You might want to consider having an ISF Tech come in and do the job right on your display.

--Bob

I did have the JVC, ISF calibrated last year, but have not messed with the Oppo settings save for some slight sharpness. I am not sure if there is a recommended color space setting, other than I have tried RGB and the softness is still present. I did a side by side comparison and the issue seems to be with the player itself. Don't get me wrong its not glaring like a defective product or anything, but relatively speaking, if a $200 player can produce a sharper image than a $500 award winning player I want to see where the issue is. As far as SD goes, I dont even want to cross that bridge until I get HD looking perfect.

The only question is could an older bulb produce sharpness issues, I always believed it was more of a brightness problem.

't gglaring but
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post #5230 of 9018
2/4/13 at 9:59am
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Thanks for posting that! Keeping track of the oddball problems introduced in specific versions of the media file authoring tools can be a real chore.
--Bob
Glad to do so. BTW, I found this out from Oppo directly to a support inquiry I made. They are aware of the issue but are not sure when or if they may be able to resolve this in a future firmware release.
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post #5231 of 9018
2/4/13 at 10:18am
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Originally Posted by Sidetracked View Post

. . . .

So, no real update, but at least they are looking into it (although I find it hard to believe that a number of active posters, including Bob Pariseau, who is sort
of the uber voice of the player here are just 'wrong')

As I said in my original discussion of this, I'll be amazed if it is as "simple" as that OPPO just choose the wrong default setting. And as pointed out by at least one other poster, there may be unwanted side effects in configurations different from what I've tested. This stuff is Complicated with a capital C. Be patient and let OPPO analyze the info they are getting.
--Bob
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post #5232 of 9018
2/4/13 at 11:16am
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Thanks for posting that! Keeping track of the oddball problems introduced in specific versions of the media file authoring tools can be a real chore.
--Bob
Glad to do so. BTW, I found this out from Oppo directly to a support inquiry I made. They are aware of the issue but are not sure when or if they may be able to resolve this in a future firmware release.

Thanks for pursuing this. I've added a new topic to the FAQ where we can track these sorts of problems: What are the known issues with media file encoding?

-Bill
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post #5233 of 9018
2/4/13 at 12:46pm
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Originally Posted by electricmanscott View Post

Anyone have any Netflix issues with the 103? Mine locks up regularly. when using Netflix. I've reset everything back to factory settings and still no luck. If it freezes I get a blank screen and the remote does nothing. Can't navigate back to home or anywhere else. The only option is power off and restart. Thoughts?

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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

This is usually due to a buffering error. If you are using the USB extension cable that came with the player and move the WiFi dongle to a location where the reception is higher. If at all possible, use Ethernet as it is far more reliably.

Try setting your IP Configuration (Network Setup) from AUTO (DHCP) to MANUAL. Change your DNS 1 to 008.008.008.008. Press Enter so you see 8.8.8.8 for DNS 1. Highlight OK at the bottom then exit Setup.

Try Netflix again.


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Originally Posted by Carl R View Post

I've had freezes on Netflix as well. A reboot is required to bring it back to life.

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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

I've seen this on specific titles, and it doesn't seem to go away till you switch to a different title. It's not a buffering issue - its some other issue, and I believe its on the Netflix side.

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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

That's Google's free DNS service.

A lot of these Internet services assign which streaming server farm you'll connect to according to your geographic location -- often set by which DNS server is involved in making the connection. Depending on who's providing your Internet service, the DNS server they include by default may result in a misleading location and thus a poorer choice of streaming server connection.

Using a different DNS service may get you assigned to different Netflix streaming servers which have faster connection to your location.

You could also try the free DNS service provided by OpenDNS. Google OpenDNS for details.
--Bob

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Originally Posted by electricmanscott View Post


Didn't provide the cure. Specifically what happens is watching Sons of Anarchy, episode ends, 20 seconds to start of next episode, buffer, blank screen, remote no response, turn power off, restart, open netflix.

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Originally Posted by hilgy View Post

Exact same problem here with Netflix when watching a different series, How I met your Mother, froze up on me 3 or 4 times in the past couple days. Tried Netflix on PS3 and Roku with no issues. Still not quite sure if its an issue with the OPPO player or an intermittent issue on the Netflix end of things.

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Originally Posted by Manic_D View Post


You may want to try deleting the Netflix account data on the Oppo, then re-authorizing it, if you haven't tried already. I think that has worked for a couple of people, although it may be a temporary fix that needs to be repeated in the future.

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Originally Posted by njrich50 View Post

On my second oppo 103. Have Netflix streaming problem. It will stream movies ok for about a week and then it will go blank (dark screen) as it starts to load the movie. The unit locks up. Have to power it off and back on, go to restore factory default settings and it will steam movies again for about a week and then the process starts all over again. Replaced the hdmi cables twice. The rest of the function are OK just this Netflix start streaming problem. Played with different settings, clear cache, etc to no avail. Oppo CS is of no real help except to sent me a third unit. So much grief from a 500.00 player! Hope someone here can help me.

New HDMI cables, twice.
Factory stock settings.
Set for split A/V, one to T.V the other to AV

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Originally Posted by JohnAV View Post

Its not the hardware at all, intermittent bug with app and memory management, probably happens when you exit Netflix or power off. It authenticates into interface but doesn't authenticate into stream and stalls. As you say utilize Erase Accounts and Settings under Reset Factory Defaults, loose Netflix account info. After you re-enter account info, it then works. To be fixed in FW. Oppo sending you new units not going to help.



I've tried every suggestion mentioned here. Oppo gave me the same list of things to try. None has made any difference at all. The last communication pretty much said "bummer dude, good luck with that". I have zero Netflix problems with other devices in my house. Other net connected applications work flawlessly. It's only Netflix on this player that's a problem. I suspect I'm not alone with this issue seeing some other posts here. Not the end of the world but I'd like to know that all features of a five hundred dollar piece of equipment work properly.

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Scott,

Unfortunately we do not have any additional advice. In our own testing the player failing to display an image from Netflix is due to the buffer not starting, which will result in a blank screen and the player seizing up. This is usually due to a DNS error or a networking limitation in your home which is preventing the player from reliably connecting to the Netflix server.

In most cases, our recommendations have resolved streaming issues.

The only thing we can really recommend is doing a Reset Factory Defaults (Device Setup) and starting from scratch and see if the same errors persist. In some rare cases we have sen this to resolve networking related errors.



Best Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.
2629B Terminal Blvd.
Mountain View, CA 94043
Service@oppodigital.com
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post #5234 of 9018
2/4/13 at 1:46pm
Just got my 103 for Xmas,replaced a Sony player,I'm using HDMI one into my anthem Mrx 300 avr using audioquest chocolate HDMI, very nice picture,a little more detail than my Sony player,I have not tryed HDMI 2 yet,everything looks great and the player looks very good ( build quality).. I can see the slightly better picture on this,and have not adjusted the sharpness +1 as some have....is oppo looking into this?..I would be happy with a a firmware update to give me a even better pic!!
Anyhow...great player!
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post #5235 of 9018
2/4/13 at 2:13pm
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Originally Posted by esh516 View Post

Just got my 103 for Xmas,replaced a Sony player,I'm using HDMI one into my anthem Mrx 300 avr using audioquest chocolate HDMI, very nice picture,a little more detail than my Sony player,I have not tryed HDMI 2 yet,everything looks great and the player looks very good ( build quality).. I can see the slightly better picture on this,and have not adjusted the sharpness +1 as some have....is oppo looking into this?..I would be happy with a a firmware update to give me a even better pic!!
Anyhow...great player!

Try HDMI-2, which is much the same as HDMI-1 with sharpness at +1.
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post #5236 of 9018
2/4/13 at 3:32pm
After attaching a USB hard drive to my Oppo, I find that some Flac files play while others do not. None of my wma files play.

Via my LMS 7.7.2 server they all play.

I am also having issues on some of my video files.

What type of files are officially comaptible with this OPPO both for video and music.


My jpg slides also seem a bit off.

Joel
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post #5237 of 9018
2/4/13 at 3:42pm
I can't get my Oppo to read MKV files formatted in NTFS from an extrenal hardrive - Seagate Expansion G2 3TB USB3.0. When I go to the home menu and press movie, it shows no disc. The extrenal HDD is connected to the front USB port but I have also tried the back ports and it still won't read. It had not problem reading and playing on my home computer so it is not the drive problem.

Any help would be appreciated
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post #5238 of 9018
2/4/13 at 3:52pm
An update AND a question:

My occasional "screeching" issue has returned intermittently, even with use of the new "Blank HDMI 2" feature activated. Have called and reported to Oppo, and they're going to look into it some more.

Question: What is the function/benefit of using "Auto" (default setting in the 103) for video output? Would I not be better off to set it to 1080P (for my 1080P tv) to force the upscaling to happen in the Oppo?
Just seems like "Auto" allows some wiggle room, but I'm not sure what it's doing.
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post #5239 of 9018
2/4/13 at 3:54pm
How do you activate the blank feature on HDMI 2?
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post #5240 of 9018
2/4/13 at 4:20pm
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Originally Posted by jmschnur View Post

After attaching a USB hard drive to my Oppo, I find that some Flac files play while others do not. None of my wma files play.

Via my LMS 7.7.2 server they all play.

I am also having issues on some of my video files.

What type of files are officially comaptible with this OPPO both for video and music.


My jpg slides also seem a bit off.

Joel

See the FAQ: What are the supported media container and file types?

WMA Pro, Lossless and Voice are not supported.

People have reported problems with FLAC using ID3 tags. Try deleting those on a test file. Vorbis-style tags are supposed to be ok.

-Bill
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post #5241 of 9018
2/4/13 at 4:22pm
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Originally Posted by jmschnur View Post

How do you activate the blank feature on HDMI 2?

Video Setup -> 3D Setting -> Blank HDMI2

-Bill
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post #5242 of 9018
2/4/13 at 4:24pm
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Originally Posted by BadClams View Post


Question: What is the function/benefit of using "Auto" (default setting in the 103) for video output? Would I not be better off to set it to 1080P (for my 1080P tv) to force the upscaling to happen in the Oppo?
Just seems like "Auto" allows some wiggle room, but I'm not sure what it's doing.

Auto asks the display what resolution it prefers. This is a bad idea because displays are sometimes too dumb to return the right answer.

So yes: use 1080p.

The FAQ has "do not use AUTO" suggestions: What are the recommended settings for the OPPO BDP-103?

-Bill
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post #5243 of 9018
2/4/13 at 4:25pm
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Originally Posted by danieljoseph View Post

I can't get my Oppo to read MKV files formatted in NTFS from an extrenal hardrive - Seagate Expansion G2 3TB USB3.0. When I go to the home menu and press movie, it shows no disc. The extrenal HDD is connected to the front USB port but I have also tried the back ports and it still won't read. It had not problem reading and playing on my home computer so it is not the drive problem.

Any help would be appreciated

Currently the BDP-103 will not read a disc partition larger than 2TB. We are hoping this restriction will be lifted in future firmware.

-Bill
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post #5244 of 9018
2/4/13 at 4:43pm
It works fine with DLNA, No problems here, with 25 GB files.
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post #5245 of 9018
2/4/13 at 4:46pm
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Originally Posted by mattr6 View Post

Ok dumb question, I am very interested in the hd-DVD ripping and playback via the 103. My question is, what's the advantage to doing this? I just recently reintroduced my stupid hd-DVD player back into my system after a receiver upgrade and haven't even used it yet. Will I get better quality audio/video ripping my hd-dvd's and playing them through my 103?

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Originally Posted by Prosoft7 View Post

Thanks Bob for quick response! My TV was calibrated by BestBuy folks professionally and I run that one. What about the Audio part? Is that going be effected in anyway?
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

Try HDMI-2, which is much the same as HDMI-1 with sharpness at +1.
OK..I will try that tommorow..busy doing my kids homework now..lol..I thought HDMI one was the better video proc?
But..yes I will def. Check it out..does two give a better picture with sharp, at +1?... I'm happy know matter what,but hey..if I can squeeze more out of it..then why not!
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post #5246 of 9018
2/4/13 at 4:47pm
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Originally Posted by Ganymed4 View Post

It works fine with DLNA, No problems here, with 25 GB files.

The 2TB limit is for directly attached devices. Over DLNA or SMB the player doesn't know anything about the host file system.

-Bill
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post #5247 of 9018
2/4/13 at 4:48pm
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Thanks for pursuing this. I've added a new topic to the FAQ where we can track these sorts of problems: What are the known issues with media file encoding?

-Bill
Thanks. This particular issue is actually a muxing issue plus some new MKV container formats. Maybe call the section: What are the known issues with media file muxing and encoding?

There was also another muxing issue a while back that caused problems with video and audio playback. I can't remember the version at which point this was fixed, but folks may try to play MKVs muxed a while back and then possibly get no video displayed and/or no audio. This was with mkvtoolnix that was setting the track's Compression, under the Extra Options tab, to zlib by default. This was later changed to none by default.

There's also a setting under mkvmerge's File | Options on the mmg tab called "Disable header removal compression..." that can be set as a global default. If anyone runs into older muxed MKVs that may not play the video and/or audio, they may need remuxing (remember to use 5.7.0).

I believe MediaInfo will show the compressed header as:
Code:
Muxing mode                      : Header stripping

It can be found in mkvinfo as well but I can't remember what the property for it is called.
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post #5248 of 9018
2/4/13 at 4:50pm
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Actually Sony *IS* doing a recall of the new "Total Recall". I don't know if they've started shipping the replacement discs yet, but the end of this article will tell you what you need to do to get in the queue for a replacement:

http://thedigitalbits.com/columns/my-two-cents/010713_1200

Spread the word, as Sony really SHOULD have to pay the cost of their poor disc-authoring quality control.
--Bob

Thanks Bob; for the correction. Will spread the word.
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post #5249 of 9018
2/4/13 at 6:03pm
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

See the FAQ: What are the supported media container and file types?

WMA Pro, Lossless and Voice are not supported.

People have reported problems with FLAC using ID3 tags. Try deleting those on a test file. Vorbis-style tags are supposed to be ok.

-Bill

Works from oshare, not from USB disk. I will look Into the tag issue. It is only my later flacs that seem to giving me the problem using the latest EAC to rip.
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post #5250 of 9018
2/4/13 at 7:52pm
Hi,

Can someone clarify one thing regarding MKV playback?

On the unofficial 93 FAQ it states:
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The OPPO does not support hidef audio in MKV.
The OPPO does not support PGS/SUP subtitles or hidef vobsub subtitles in MKV.

However on the unofficial 103 FAQ, it states:
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New container combinations:
FLAC in MKV
DTS-HD Master in MKV
Dolby Digital TrueHD in MKV

The only other thing I found was that mkvmerge 5.8+ creates a non-compatible file. There is nothing about subtitle support in MKV.

So my question is:
1. Does it mean that 103 has fixed both the subtitle and the audio problems in MKV format?
2. If yes, does it mean that it's an absolutely perfect high quality player if you rip all your movie collection using MakeMKV?

Maybe can you add my points to the FAQ, as I'm sure other people are interested in this as well. I loved the "What are the alternatives to .iso files?" in the 93 FAQ, and at least a single sentence that "with the 103, all you need is MakeMKV, it works with all subtitles and audio (and of course you love trimming menus :-)" would be nice.
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