Official OPPO BDP-103 Owner's Thread - Page 187

Originally Posted by umdad06 

I had the same problem with my Harmony One. I would guess the setup software is the same for your Harmony 900(?). What I did was create a new button for the LCD screen and have the remote "Learn" the "Input" button. When I set up the remote I then could have it send the "Input" command followed by a "1" or a "3" to select the blu-ray player or the back HDMI. Works perfectly. Although i did have to put in a couple of seconds delay between commands.

HTH

Originally Posted by WannaKnowTech 

So im thinking about buying one of these. I have been looking at an Oppo player for a while mostly due to the upconverting abilities, ease of navigation for streaming(no freezing or 10 second delay when you press a button) and of course the after market region free mod. I looked at other region free players but there were all crappy players for under 100 that had all the issues I hate.

However now I have a few concerns.I want to completely get rid of my PS3 and just have one device for everything. This sharpness thing worries me though. Does it only affect DVDs? Does the processing do anything to blu-rays? Why would it need to? Because of this I was thinking about getting the 83 instead. However that can't do Netflix in 5.1 right? It's important to me not to have to use the PS3 or any other device for streaming.

Originally Posted by dmusoke 

Thanks JRDiAndrea ...have you tried sending video to the Oppo via Video Station? I also have a DS1812+

Originally Posted by Neuromancer 

Different architecture so it should not have the same problem. Also, not everyone will have problems with the BDP-103 and "hissing" when using the analog outputs direct to an amplifier (pre-amplifiers work perfectly fine).

Originally Posted by WannaKnowTech 

So im thinking about buying one of these. I have been looking at an Oppo player for a while mostly due to the upconverting abilities, ease of navigation for streaming(no freezing or 10 second delay when you press a button) and of course the after market region free mod. I looked at other region free players but there were all crappy players for under 100 that had all the issues I hate.

However now I have a few concerns.I want to completely get rid of my PS3 and just have one device for everything. This sharpness thing worries me though. Does it only affect DVDs? Does the processing do anything to blu-rays? Why would it need to? Because of this I was thinking about getting the 83 instead. However that can't do Netflix in 5.1 right? It's important to me not to have to use the PS3 or any other device for streaming.

Originally Posted by bokes 

Just make sure you can return if you run into issues.
I had a 103 for about a week and it was way too buggy for me to justify it at this time.
Folks here were nice and tried to help with my settings, etc.- but in the end-

I contacted support and here is their response to the Netflix issue:

If Netflix is freezing up every time that you try to use the service, or when loading specific titles, then this sounds DNS related.

Try power cycling your modem and router by removing their power cables for 5 minutes. Reconnect their power cables then try the player again another 5 minutes later.

Try upgrading the firmware on your router, as sometimes networking errors are due to out of date firmware.

Try using the USB extension cable that came with the player and move the WiFi dongle to a location where the reception is higher.

Try setting your IP Configuration (Network Setup) from AUTO (DHCP) to MANUAL. Change your DNS 1 to 008.008.008.008. Press Enter. Highlight OK at the bottom then exit Setup. Try the network streaming services again.

That's a whole lot of hoops for a $500 player. FWIW- my Ipad, laptops and Apple Tv all stream Netflix just fine and it looks pretty darn good- so it's not the DNS- it's the Oppo.

I also mentioned the sharpness issue.
They say;

If you do not like the output of HDMI 1 at the default Sharpness level then we would recommend using HDMI 2. HDMI 2 will give similar video quality results to HDMI 1 with a slightly sharper image, so it may give you a picture which is more to our liking.

Doesn't sound like they plan to address it in firmware- but they might. They should- enough folks seem to see it as an issue. IMO- Telling us to use the other output should not be a solution.

I also mentioned the DVD up-scale did not look any better than my cheaper Pioneer. I wondered if my setting were correct.
They responded;

The quality of the de-interlacing and scaling on the player will depend on the quality of the source and the display. If the source is already well mastered and the previous Pioneer was already a good player, then the difference in the performance may be minimal because there was no real processing needed to enhance the DVD-Video picture quality.

Fair enough.
So I returned it.

FWIW- I now have the BDP- 150.
It's build is not as solid as the Oppo.
CD's do not sound as good as the Oppo.
But Blu Ray discs in the 150 play, look and sound fantastic.
SD DVD looks no better or worse than what I was getting from Oppo.

All that said, If they fix these issues I would re-purchase the 103.
It's a promising machine and the 103 is built to last. (the 150 will most likely fail before 2 years)

Good Luck

Originally Posted by hilgy 


Ditto Bokes. Don't by this player at this time if you are interested in Netflix streaming! I stream quite a bit of Netflix via an ethernet connection and suffer multiple freezes daily requiring a hard reset. I received the same canned customer service response from OPPO. After trying all of their suggestions and even deactivating and reactivating my Netflix account the problem still persists. I have given up on the Netflix player at this time and went back to streaming through my PS3 or Roku player which work perfectly (no freezes ever utilizing the same ethernet connection). I would seriously consider returning the unit myself but imagine I am outside the return window. There are several others on here that have mentioned they suffer the same problem. With all that said I have been pretty happy with the BD playback and all the other features but if you intend to stream much I would think twice about this player.

Originally Posted by electricmanscott 


The only thing that works correctly on this machine is playing shiny discs. Considering that this is a five hundred dollar machine I can't help but feel like I was ripped off.

Originally Posted by htwaits 

Given the resale market for your "rip off" player, you can easily get almost all your money back.

I'm amazed that you determined that the player was worth $499 when you made your purchase, but failed to learn that it's not a great streaming device for the likes of Netflix. There have been Netflix complaints from day one of the BDP-93. The BDP-103 has always had similar problems. Professional reviewers have little to no interest in add on extra features like Netflix. Personally, I didn't find Netflix to be worth $8.00 a month using a high powered graphic PC for streaming to a 24" screen. I've never been tempted to try Netflix on a 60" screen. Maybe someday.

Originally Posted by WannaKnowTech 


Well the PS3 does it pretty easily without locking up......shouldn't this be able to pull it off? Anyway I might be buying the 83 and keeping the PS3 for streaming. Would have been nice to sell the PS3 and have everything all in one but I guess not.

Originally Posted by Recstar24 

I am using analog out to a pair of powered speakers and while it sounds very good (the oppo stereo downmix processing is fantastic) i still have similar lip sync issues. This is with cable going to the hdmi oppo input.

Originally Posted by avswilier 

I currently have a dumb Sony HTIB which acts as an amplifier (taking my Media Player and PS3 sources) and outputting to 4 speakers (sub-woofer removed because of sleeping kids).

Would it be worth replacing this unit with the BDP 103, which would then take on the role of amplifier. I would need to keep the speakers because of the Wife Acceptance Factor, so would the sound difference be much improved? I also need to change the red/white wire of each speaker to a banana plug end? Is that simple?

The 103 should act as a video enhancer for the Media Player and PS3 source and all video would go out to --> 3D VIP Theater --> Darbee DVP 500 --> AE4000 LCD Projector.

Sound possible, or just asking for trouble and cost with little upside?

Originally Posted by Neuromancer 

OPPO is not saying if they will be changing anything about the out of box settings on the player because there is no evidence (yet) from their engineering group that there is actually a lower sharpness/muddyness/fuzzyness to the HDMI 1 image at defaults when compared to the BDP-93. In my own personal testing I find HDMI 1 and HDMI 2 to produce an identical picture with the default Sharpness levels, and HDMI 1 to produce an over-enhanced image with Sharpness +1.

I am not alone in my findings, much like you are not alone in your findings that HDMI 1 appears to be too soft. Regardless of our own observations, it is completely OPPO's purview at this point, and they may or may not make any changes to the player's default settings.

Originally Posted by dsinger 


If the Oppo engineers can't see a difference in sharpness etc. when viewing the same source material from HDMI 1 SOURCE DIRECT vs. HDMI 2 source direct, they need new glasses!! I bought the 103 as a transport for an external video processor. Given what I have seen so far, I wish I had kept the 83.

Originally Posted by gsr 

The Oppo is NOT an amplifier - you cannot connect your speakers directly to it unless they are active (powered) speakers, which yours are not. So you need an amplifier of some sort between the Oppo and your speakers.

Originally Posted by mantaraydesign 

I have a quick question about the PURE AUDIO mode. I listen to a lot of 2 channel music WITHOUT the subwoofer.

Do I need to use the PURE AUDIO mode on the 103 player as well as the receiver? My receiver also got the PURE AUDIO mode as well. Should I use the PURE AUDIO mode on my receiver or the 103 player? Or do I need to use the PURE AUDIO mode on both the 103 and my receiver?

Thanks for any advice!

Originally Posted by AndrewFG 

I am late to the discussion concerning the sharpness +1 setting so perhaps somebody can explain the context for me? I have the 103 set to always output at 1080p, but I assume the setting relates to DVD upsampling only? Or does the setting have some impact on Blu-Ray ouput too? i.e. is the player also "converting" Blu-Ray to Blu-Ray?

PS in any case I really don't understand why some people are referring to this as a "bug"; it seems to me that if they give you a choice of different settings and you prefer one over another, that is simply a matter of taste or personal choice. (In my book, a bug is when something does not work at all...)

Originally Posted by AndrewFG 

I am late to the discussion concerning the sharpness +1 setting so perhaps somebody can explain the context for me? I have the 103 set to always output at 1080p, but I assume the setting relates to DVD upsampling only? Or does the setting have some impact on Blu-Ray ouput too? i.e. is the player also "converting" Blu-Ray to Blu-Ray?

PS in any case I really don't understand why some people are referring to this as a "bug"; it seems to me that if they give you a choice of different settings and you prefer one over another, that is simply a matter of taste or personal choice. (In my book, a bug is when something does not work at all...)

Originally Posted by htwaits 

Given the resale market for your "rip off" player, you can easily get almost all your money back.

I'm amazed that you determined that the player was worth $499 when you made your purchase, but failed to learn that it's not a great streaming device for the likes of Netflix. There have been Netflix complaints from day one of the BDP-93. The BDP-103 has always had similar problems. Professional reviewers have little to no interest in add on extra features like Netflix. Personally, I didn't find Netflix to be worth $8.00 a month using a high powered graphic PC for streaming to a 24" screen. I've never been tempted to try Netflix on a 60" screen. Maybe someday.

Originally Posted by htwaits 

The PS3 is vastly more powerful than any Blu-ray player. It's really a computer under it's skin.

The Sony PS3 is by far the biggest number of devices that access Netflix. Sony had exclusive access to many of Netflix's best features for a long time.

The real point is that OPPO has never hidden the fact that streaming from Netflix is poor. Anyone who was planing to buy a $499 Blu-ray player with a primary need for Netflix streaming should have been able to find out with one Google search. Even without that effort, the resale value is great protection for those who spent more than thirty days finding out that they felt "ripped off"'

I would like everything to be in one box too. Of course if I got my wish, and something needed repair, the whole system would be down while I waited for that included component to be repaired.

Originally Posted by electricmanscott 


Wow. Are you an Oppo employee by any chance or just an apologist fan boy? Your passive aggressiveness towards my posts is pretty strange . I'm giving my opinion based on my experience, just like you when you post , which has been pretty negative and you turn it around as if it's my fault that a FIVE HUNDRED DOLLAR blu ray player has what I consider legitimate issues. Silly me for wanting it to work properly.

Originally Posted by electricmanscott 

Wow. Are you an Oppo employee by any chance or just an apologist fan boy? Your passive aggressiveness towards my posts is pretty strange . I'm giving my opinion based on my experience, just like you when you post , which has been pretty negative and you turn it around as if it's my fault that a FIVE HUNDRED DOLLAR blu ray player has what I consider legitimate issues. Silly me for wanting it to work properly.

Originally Posted by wmcclain 

DIal it back a bit, please. No one here got a dime of your money. This is not the complaint department. We do technical Q&A. If you have a problem we can help with, post it. Otherwise deal directly with OPPO.

-Bill

Originally Posted by electricmanscott 

I posted about a few problems and some went unaddressed. No big deal but why one guy feels the need to ridicule me on the Netflix thing is odd. Just defending myself.

Originally Posted by electricmanscott 

I posted about a few problems and some went unaddressed. No big deal but why one guy feels the need to ridicule me on the Netflix thing is odd. Just defending myself.