Official OPPO BDP-103 Owner's Thread - Page 194

Originally Posted by Cryogenix 


Doesn't work... That's why I'm here asking... Does that work for you? Maybe my OPPO defective. However, the Home button works fine everywhere else.

Originally Posted by wmcclain 

That sounds like a hard drive issue. Maybe fragmentation?

Some buffer could be exhausted and need to be refilled, but 15-20m of BR is a large amount of data.

As an experiment, you might try unpacking the ISO into a BDMV folder contained in an AVCHD folder and see if that makes a difference. It might reveal or eliminate the loopback mechanism as part of the problem.

-Bill

Originally Posted by TracerJohn 

That looks awesome. When will it be available?
Just installed a Pioneer SC-67 receiver this weekend. The included remote blows.
However, the iControlAV app is great.

Originally Posted by Jottle 

Just wanted to add that my isp is now part of netflix's open connect network. So I should be able to receive super hd streams now (opp netflix app shows the super hd stream option). But of course, I'm only receiving x-high streams even though my connection is perfectly capable of the super hd streams (I get consistent 20mb down via hard wired connection). Is there any way to reset the netflix app or the player or change the network settings to ensure that I will get the better super hd streams? It's as if the oppo netlifx app doesn't recognize the super hd streams and just tops out at x-high instead of super quality. This is extremely annoying. I know I have the bandwidth do support the super hd streams via numerous network tests that I have conducted.

Originally Posted by Sidetracked 

Just had an interesting email exchange with Oppo (this is why I love them, they responded in less than 24
hours, and on a holiday.) I tried to address some of the issues with sharpness, Source Direct, etc. and get
clear answers. This exchange doesn't clear up everything, but at least makes clear what's known, what's
intentional, what's a question, and just what Source Direct in HDMI 1 means.


Me: As I'm sure you're aware, debate about sharpness and other issues on the 103 continue to bounce around on
the AVS Forum. Even the on line experts seem to sometimes contradict each other. Perhaps you can clear up
some confusion.

1) If one uses HDMI 1, 1080P out, with all controls on the Oppo set to zero, is the QEDO still doing some noise
reduction and/or other processing? In other words, does it make sense that HDMI1 with all controls at 0 still
produces a slightly different (to my eye softer) image than HDMI 2?

Oppo: There is some amount of Noise Reduction applied to HDMI 1 to correct visual errors when streaming from Netflix.
From our engineering the amount of NR added to the signal is negligible for disc media playback, which is why it remains
in our firmware. We are looking into the observations that our customers have reported, but at this time we believe that the
HDMI 1 sharpness output is correct, and any alteration of the sharpness is personal preference.


2) Does that change on Source Direct? Is Source Direct from HDMI 1 unprocessed by the QEDO? Should that look identical
with HDMI 2?

Oppo: Source Direct does not bypass the NR being applied since this is a default value that we have enabled in the player.


3) Is there a reason that, at least to some of us, the processing on HDMI 1, outputting 1080P, set at 0 seems more aggressive
than that on the 93 and 83 (which, I know, had a different chip)? In other words, has Oppo intentionally chosen a more aggressive
processing level at all 0, or is that still something you are investigating as a possible bug?

Oppo: This is still being investigated, so we do not have an answer for your question at this time.


4) Would it be possible to implement the processing less aggressively or even not at all with controls at zero if it seemed like that
would improve customer experience?

Oppo: This is something that we can change in the firmware, but only if we find that the HDMI 1 output is not working to our original
engineering specifications.

Originally Posted by KJSmitty 

Well,,,
I think I have an issue with my 103. Purchased prior/for Christmas and its been basically flawless. This is my third OPPO, I still own and utilize a 93 since pre-order days etc thus I'm pretty seasoned with settings and am confident I have tried all that I could.

Long story short, HDMI 2 has no signal.. Basically I have/had it running split A/V.

Originally Posted by pwiss 

It sounds like Netflix NR is only on HDMI 1. Does this imply that HDMI 2 did not need added NR for Netflix?

Originally Posted by Recstar24 

Sidetracked,

Thank you. It appears oppo has pretty much said hdmi1 sharpness 0 is normal. Cool.

Originally Posted by rdgrimes 

As I understand it if you're seeing "X-High HD" on the stream, then you have to be getting the Super HD. Everyone else is limited to the "High-HD" streams under the newest Netflix configuration. But its also good to note that there's no reason to assume that a "Super HD" stream will actually look any better than anything else. But "X-High" no longer exists for the unwashed masses.

Originally Posted by Sidetracked 

True, but then you have to define 'normal'. 'Normal' to Oppo, need not be the same as 'optimal' for you.

Oppo is acknowledging there is some NR on at all times with HDMI 1, and that in turn means the signal is at least
slightly processed. Whether you like it, or it bothers you is more an 'art' decision than a 'science' one. Their feeling is
that it should be so minor you won't notice it on shiny discs, but I'm not sure my eyes agree.

The way I read it, they're saying 'this level of NR looks the way we want it to'. But whether you agree with their taste
or prefer the slightly different unprocessed look of HDMI 2, or even the somewhat artificially sharpened look of
+1 is personal, not right and wrong.

To my eye, certainly, for example on SD-DVD discs, there is a notable difference between HDMI 1 and 2 with
both at 0. It affects both sharpness and contrast. On discs I've helped master, HDMI 2 actually
looks closer to the master, while HDMI 1 has slightly more 'pop', but slightly less fine detail. HDMI 1 is
a more eye catching picture, but a less 'accurate' one. (And ironically, on SD-DVD, to me both options
trail the old ABT chip results on the 83 and 983.)

But it does sound clear that the way oppo has implemented the QEDO chip is intentional and not a bug. Now
it's up to each of us to decide what we like. At least we have options.

Originally Posted by dstr212 

This is getting kinda silly now, so is there any mode or HDMI that presents a Bluray as intended by the director. I'm not interested in Oppo's artistic freedom at this point "adding NR" when its not necessary and not as intended. At least give us a mode where we don't have to have the processing, is that HDMI 2 now?

Originally Posted by Recstar24 

Thanks. I've been enjoying hdmi1 sharpness +1 but I've got both outputs hooked up so I am going to play a little with hdmi2 some more as well as hdmi1 sharpness 0.

Originally Posted by Neuromancer 

Noise Reduction can only be applied to HDMI 1 as NR is done by the Marvell QDEO.

Originally Posted by dstr212 

This is getting kinda silly now, so is there any mode or HDMI that presents a Bluray as intended by the director. I'm not interested in Oppo's artistic freedom at this point "adding NR" when its not necessary and not as intended. At least give us a mode where we don't have to have the processing, is that HDMI 2 now?

Originally Posted by Sidetracked 

I'm planning to do the same when I get the time. If you can, report back your thoughts here. I'll be very curious as to what you
see.

Originally Posted by giedrys 

Just found some rather big glitch:

When playing mounted BD 3D ISO file and via SMB, picture and sound stutters after 15-20min of playing, sometimes sooner. It coincides with HDD noise(same as windows searching or indexing). After pausing and waiting a minute everything is back to normal... for another 20 min.

Is this my hardware(bandwidth) limitation? The particular HDD where media files are located is rather fast (WD Black)

Originally Posted by wmcclain 

It's a personal choice; you have options. If you want the player to do the video processing you can have that, if you would rather that be done elsewhere, in a receiver, video processor or in the display itself, you can have that.

Most people will use 1080p.

-Bill

Originally Posted by rdgrimes 

You've got something thrashing the HDD. Windows search or indexing is a possibility. Open "resource monitor" while the ISO is playing and it'll tell you what processes are accessing the HDD while this is happening. I forget where that particular monitor is located, but its lurking somewhere. (resmon.exe)

Originally Posted by kodi41 

Secondly, reviews state even the customer support is the highest in the industry- is this actually true?


Finally, in a few months I will be upgrading to a projector and screen at 100 or so inches, I am not into 3d, so would the 103 be a good choice for my use? Does it do 3d? How good is the 2 channel audio compared to high end SACD players. Would this player be a good all in one unit?