Official OPPO BDP-103 Owner's Thread - Page 197

Really? - wrong thread perhaps- but everything I've compared - BR is better.
And the 103 has produced the best Blu Ray performance I've seen. (I've owned about 5 players prior)
Honestly curious- What stream beats Blu Ray?


In my experience- Netflix streams just fine on Atv- and looks passable in a pinch.
I tested Netflix on the 103 and I am getting similar results. It looks good- but it losses sharpness, detail and the pop in color.


I disagree on the rips.
I rip with Handbrake. (maybe I'm doing something wrong)
Files look OK for ipad viewing- but when I play on the 50 inch Kuro- not so good.
When the 103 arrived I checked the rips vs discs. The 103 up-scale produces a better picture IMO.
Enough to get up, walk to the shelf and load the disc.

All needs are different.
We agree here.

I just find it odd there is so much worry about streaming when we're dealing with a world class player designed for physical media.
IMo- I would prefer the Oppo engineers to create firmware that address any physical play issues before looking at the streaming limitations.

I think it also depends on your connection speed, your display, and how your display handles the stream. It looked pretty damn good to me and the DD+ sounded pretty good also. I'll compare it to the BR version when I get it.(looks like 3/12 for rental) Try a HDX stream and compare for yourself.

You guys are using different definitions for streaming. You seem to be limiting streaming to streaming over the internet (Netflix, Vudu, etc.), while the other poster is including streaming content within the home network. When streaming content within the home network, the quality can be identical to the original Bluray as long as it was ripped in such a way to not re-encode the content.

First off, welcome to AVS and to this Thread!

What you are trying to do can not be done in the current firmware.

Send an email to OPPO Tech Support describing what you would like to be able to do. These requests do get taken seriously by their engineers. I would imagine Blu-ray copy protection requirements will make this tricky (particularly for discs authored with BD-Java), but OPPO has pulled off "tricky" before.

(At the very least, they'll have to insure the disc is Paused since there's only one decoder and it can't be reading/decoding files off the disc while also handling another input. There will also be problems if you try to do this where Pause is a Prevented User Operation on that disc, such as on animated menus or warning screens -- or even previews for some discs.)
--Bob

Synch issues via the HDMI inputs are known and being worked on. Not all of them are the player's fault.

You'll probably need to set your display to force SBS 3D mode on the DirecTV content, the player is passing the image as-is but leaving off the 3D flag to tell the TV what to do. Frankly, the image quality gains from passing DirecTV through the Oppo are small, so unless you really NEED to, its arguable whether its worth the trouble to pass it through the Oppo. I never watch SD channels on DirecTV, and don't feel there's any reason to mess with running it through.

The basic Rule of Thumb is to do each of de-interlacing and scaling once, and in the device that does each job the best (keeping in mind that interlaced content has to be de-interlaced before it can be scaled).

So ideally you should have each source sending the OPPO the original content format, so that the OPPO can do ALL the heavy lifting.

This won't really be possible with the ROKU. If you set it to 480p output it will down-scale any HD programming -- which discards information, i.e., that can't be "fixed" by having the OPPO up-scale it again. If you set it to 1080p (its only other choice) it will output 1080p for 1080p content and 720p for everything else. I.e., SD programs will be up-scaed -- by the ROKU -- to 720p before the OPPO ever gets its hands on them. The video processing in the ROKU is no all that great, but you don't really have much choice except to use it. It's too much bother to keep changing it back to 480p for watching SD content. Of course even 480p content has already been de-interlaced -- likely before the stream was ever sent TO the ROKU.

Meanwhile you say most of your PLEX accessed files are 480p. If you got those from SD-DVDs that means something -- probably your ripping software -- has already done the de-interlacing. Any problems in that de-interlacing can not be corrected by the OPPO -- the damage, if any, is already baked into the 480p files. But you CAN get the OPPO to do the up-scaling by having PLEX send those still as 480p input.
--Bob

Greetings,
You're obviously ripping to a format/resolution that is well less than a full BD / "passthrough" type rip. How large are your files? My typical BD rips range from 15 to 30+ GB per movie. Even via PJ and 126 inch screen you "cannot" tell the difference between my rips and the plastic media, video or audio.

I was strictly a shiney disk guy as well until I started playing with attached drives to my OPPO 93 (Nov 2009?). 3 + years later and a 36TB NAS, and no need to go to the closet for a movie for any display in the house has turned me into a ripping fool. I have a few OPPOs yet it doesn't take an OPPO to utilize a good rip. I also have two <$100 Sony BD players that play perfectly with my NAS. Wife, kids and guests love it.

It's all good!

Cheers

Been trying to get through all the pages of this thread to set up my HT. So if I use this method (as described above). How would I get video and audio to play at the same time if I wanted to watch cable?

The cable box would be hooked up to the AVR via HDMI input 1 for video>video would be going into the Oppo via HDMI out from the AVR>video will go to TV via HDMI 1 from the Oppo>audio would be going back to the AVR via HDMI out 2 on the Oppo to a different input on the AVR (HDMI 2). I hope so far this is correct.

How would I get the video and audio to play at the same time if I only can choose one HDMI input on the AVR? I might have this hooked up all wrong or not understand how everything can work together at once (sorry if confusing). I guess there might be a way in the AVR to marry both video and audio signals to one input?

Got ya.
I was referencing SD DVd rips.
Those look better coming off the disc through the Oppo vs my rips.
In the case of BR's- yeah I understand uncompressed files- no upscale involved- look the same.

I don't rip BR- too many films and files way too big for HD (only 4TB).
36TB NAS is crazy!!

Cheers back.

Ive watched plenty of Vudu HDX at full quality, and while it looks good, doesnt beat Blu-ray any day.

My oppo 103 is staying frozen on the start up oppo logo screen, and is unresponsive to any remote controls. I've tried unplugging and plugging back in to no avail. Any thoughts?

No Home screen?

It sounds busted. Contact OPPO. They will have diagnostic steps or ask you to return it for repair.

-Bill

Correct. It will not go to the home screen and just stays on the oppo logo.

What's the easiest way to stream ESPN 3 to Oppo 103?

Cable box.

Agreed.

Hi guys, I've been looking to upgrade to the Oppo player from the Samsung bd-e6500. But I'll be honest, after reading many recent comments, I'm a bit scared to pull the trigger. My main reason for going Oppo is that everyone always answers Oppo, when I ask what bluray player will give me the best picture. My priority for this player is bluray, I don't do much streaming, and what little I do, I use my tv to stream Netflix, and Vudu. That said, plugging my directv box into this unit does intrigue me. Is this lip sync issue a big problem plaguing all units? And does it affect bluray play back at all? What is with this unwated processing being done to video that I've seen people complain about? Lastly, how much of an upgrade would this player be over my current? Thanks for any help you guys can give.

Just got off the phone with oppo customer service. The guy was extremely helpful. He had me isolate that the issue was not hdmi related by unplugging, turning on, checking responsiveness, plugging back in, etc. nothing worked so he pulled up my info, and sent me a ups return label immediately. I'm happy with the service so far.

As an aside note, I have my cable hooked up to my gt50 directly and the loss in PQ is pretty noticeable. The cable looks more dull, almost dead looking. The oppo input seems to really improve the image. Well you don't know what you have until its gone so ill have to suffer for a little bit.

Many times OPPO can turn around a player that's in for repair in one day. Your wait shouldn't be much longer than the shipping time.
Edited by htwaits - 2/21/13 at 1:19am

Thanks for the reply Bob. First of all I apologize for saying my collection is 480P. I just learned DVDs are 480i. I'm new at this so bear with me. Second, I apologize ahead of time if this belongs in a Plex or Roku forum. I am sure I'm not the only one with this setup, so this may benefit others as well. And third, do you know if Oppo is planning on adding a Plex app at any point? That would be a beautiful add. The user interface is what is really attractive about Plex. The Oppo detects the Plex server, but scrolling through a basic and bland file directory with just DLNA is slow and takes the fun out of having your library streamed. But scrolling through your movies and seeing the artwork and metadata is pretty sweet, especially for the kids who own the tv 90% of the time. The Roku Plex app does that for me quite nicely. If the quality is that much better streaming directly to the Oppo, I can always browse the Roku app and then go and select the movie on the Oppo. The Plex app is a great visual for the kids though, and they probably wouldn't notice if the Oppo wasn't involved. There is definitely a difference. How much seems to depends largely on the file.

I can select my Plex server to stream at:
480P - 1.5 Mbps
1080P - 8.0 Mbps
1080P - 10 Mbps
(I will neglect the 320P and 720P settings)

My Plex streaming settings options are as follows:
Automatic
Direct Play
Direct Play with Fallback (Always try direct play, then transcode)
Direct Stream/Transcode (Always direct stream or transcode)
Always transcode

The Roku forums seem to say that the Plex server will transcode to a format the Roku will like, if necessary. It also sounds like there are Roku issues with direct play and direct stream. I can attest to these. I have had to reset my Roku countless times playing with all these settings. However, if you set it to Auto you usually don't have a problem.

Most of my rips are from the original discs with MakeMKV. I don't believe that program does any de-interlacing. It looks like the the de-interlacing will be done by the Roku or the Plex server as the Roku won't pass 480i. So, I can tell the Roku my tv is 480P widescreen and tell Plex to stream 480P and have the Oppo up-convert it to 1080P, but I am limited to 1.5Mbps. I guess my only question now is really whether or not I am better off letting Plex do the up-convert so I get the higher bit rate of 8 Mbps? I am not really familiar with how the Mbps changes things. I have seen varying results from various files.

I hope this clarifies things for some folks interested in this setup. And please lobby the folks at Oppo for a Plex app!!!

IMHO, and I say this lovingly, only on AVS can you find complaints about a function (secondary video processing by the Qdeo processor) that is both a key feature of the Oppo (compared to other Blu Ray players) and easily adjusted and/or defeated.

Got my 103 today...

Can't seem to stream anything (using Plex) from my Mac Mini to my Oppo.

It see's the files, starts to play, and goes through an endless loop of the first 1-5 seconds of the film as the sound gets lower and lower...the display keeps ticking along.

Some files will play 3-4 seconds and come up with the "file format is not supported"

Any idea?

Try Serviio or Twonky.

(In my experience, I was unable to get Plex to stream from my Mac to any other device not also running Plex.)

Some questions on playing STB through the Oppo

I have been using the zoom function when playing a bluray in 2.35:1 format on a 16:9 screen. With 1.2 zoom, the picture scales up nicely without distorting the picture, and just cutting of a small bit left and right. It increases the "real estate" of my TV.

Now I am trying to use the zoom function as well when playing STB, connected to the HDMI at the back. But the zoom function does not work. I read the manual, and I understand that zoom only works with DVD and bluray.
So zoom would not work with STB fed to the HDMI-in at the back. Is this correct? Or does anyone can zoom STB source?

Next question is about NTSC and PAL. I live in Hong Kong which has PAL 50Hz, and presently I have a multisync TV. But in future, I plan to import a TV from US (price, model availability). If I set the Oppo to NTSC, then the PAL50Hz source should be converted to NTSC. Is this correct?
Is there a loss of picture quality? Could I test the quality by setting the Oppo to NTSC and test on my present multisync TV?
Edited by turboman123 - 2/20/13 at 8:49pm

 

 On newer films, the PQ is darn close. Audio is another thing altogether. DD+ is just too lossy for my tastes as compared to DTS MA or Dolby TrueHD from bluray.

If your main use for a Blu-ray player is playing Blu-ray disk, chances are your current player or a Panasonic/Sony player in the $120 - $150 range will be so close you won't be able to tell the difference.
Why not wait to see how things develop.
I'm on my third OPPO model and I spend a lot of time reading OPPO threads. It seem to me that any lip sync problems will be solved in a future firmware release. I haven't paid close attention, but I think that there is a limited area that's effected.
No.
If you're watching Blu-ray it's not relevant. If it is relevant, all you have to do is switch from HDMI 1 to HDMI 2 and there will be no unwanted noise correction.
None for Blu-ray. See above.
Edited by htwaits - 2/21/13 at 1:38am

Yes.

No.

Yes.

-Bill

I realize some will claim no difference for blu ray playback.
In my experience- that has not been the case.
I was running a Pioneer 51FD ever since it was released. It recently began to fail loading. (bad laser)
I replaced it with another newer, current Pioneer model 150. for $140.
Build quality was horrible. It felt like i was dealing with a toy compared to my 51FD.
It loaded fast- but with a high pitch twirling sound. The high pitched whine would continue until the disc spun up- sometimes several minutes into playback.
The noise would occur upon every pause and re-start.
Picture was OK. Sound was a tad thin.

I researched Oppo and ordered one figuring i can always return it if need be.
First up- Build quality- no contest- Oppo all the way.
Start up noise- Oppo- rock solid and dead silent.

I A/B'd the two machines.
Sound- Oppo hands down. Much fuller, deeper impact, etc.
Picture- Oppo again. More pop, sharpness, detail and clarity. Colors had a richer density to them.
I spent several hours and many different discs- Blu Ray and SD.
Trust me - I wanted the Pioneer to be better. It was $350 cheaper!
But in the end The Oppo to my eyes- looked better.
No- It wasn't leaps and bounds- night and day different. It was subtle. It just felt right- spot on.
Sure, I could have lived with the Pioneer- but i knew I would always be wishing i kept the Oppo.
So, I kept it.
No regrets.

I also have not experienced any of the streaming/file issues- although i spent very little time with them- They all worked for me without issues.
I bought the 103 for Blu Ray playback and it excels at doing just that.

I also feel good about owning it into the future.
IMO- The Pioneer would have failed in less than 2 years.

GL
Edited by Mojogypson - 2/21/13 at 6:16am

Thank you for your reply. I will definitely be trying one out for myself later today. Hopefully I will also love the unit as much as you do, and keep it.

I recently purchased OPPO BDP-103 and I am very pleased with the quality of video and audio. But, I have a problem with connecting OPPO to PC Windows 7.
My home network consists of:
1. PC Windows 7
2. PC Windows XP
3. WD (Western Digital) TV Live Media Player
4. OPPO BDP-103 (Multi Region)
I can connect from WD to PC W/7 and PC W/XP,
from PC W/7 to PC W/XP and WD,
from OPPO to WD and PC W/XP.
I cannot connect from OPPO to PC W/7.
Tried everything, with or without password, but always get Log In Error.
Can anybody help with some advice?