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post #5941 of 16357
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Originally Posted by avswilier View Post

For 2D->3D conversion, does this only apply to converting SBS or Top-Bottom into frame packed 3D?

Or does it also mean creating frame-packed 3D from "normal" 2D material?

As it stated in the Manual, 2D -> 3D conversion, when turned on using the 3D button on the remote, creates "simulated" 3D output from normal 2D content.

The 3D button on the remote can also be used during 3D output to bring up the 3D pop-up menu for adjusting that 3D output behavior.
--Bob
post #5942 of 16357
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Originally Posted by Jon B. View Post

Thank you for the info. My question: Is there an easy way to see what the source channel's actual resolution is? I know off the top of my head that ESPN outputs at 720p, but do not know much about other channels. Obviously, when I hit "Info" on the TV or Oppo it always says 1080i, but that is only because I have the DVR set to output 1080i (it does not support native resolution).

If your DVR doesn't support native output resolution mode, then the only thing you can do is research this in the forums. The most common HD channels that broadcast as 720p are the channels run by ESPN, FOX, and Disney (which also owns a bunch of channels that don't include Disney in their names). When watching channels with commercials, particularly local channels, the broadcast resolution may change going into and out of commercials as well.
--Bob
post #5943 of 16357
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Originally Posted by Jon B. View Post

Thank you for the info. My question: Is there an easy way to see what the source channel's actual resolution is? I know off the top of my head that ESPN outputs at 720p, but do not know much about other channels. Obviously, when I hit "Info" on the TV or Oppo it always says 1080i, but that is only because I have the DVR set to output 1080i (it does not support native resolution).
There is a thread on AVS which lists all channels and whether it broadcasts at 720p or 1080i. However it's only been last updated as of March 2012, so additional channels born in the past year are not listed.

The complete national list of HD channels is shown on another AVS thread last updated as of Nov 2012, and at the bottom of the first post is an Excel spreadsheet attachment version of that chart.

Wouldn't be difficult to add one more column to the channel lineup chart inserting the information from the first thread, to show 720p/1080i for each national HD channel. But it hasn't been done yet.

Anyway, in general, here’s a look at the major broadcast network families and their choices:

ABC, ESPN, Disney – 720p
CBS – 1080i
Fox, FX, Fox Sports – 720p
NBC – 1080i
The CW – 1080i
My Network TV – 720p
PBS – 1080i
TNT, TBS, CNN, TCM - 1080i
USA - 1080i

Looking at the first thread, most cable channels are 1080i, but the following are 720p (as of 3/2012):

A&E - 720p
Biography - 720p
Crime & Investigation - 720p
History - 720p
MLB - 720p
National Geographic - 720p
Speed - 720p
Edited by DSperber - 2/22/13 at 9:31am
post #5944 of 16357
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Yes. NTSC DVD is 720x480, PAL is 720x576. The color standards are different, too.

-Bill

Well mastered PAL standard DVDs can look very, very good because of the native resolution being 20% greater. People in PAL countries did not see as much improvement with HDTV as those of us in NTSC countries did.
Edited by JazzGuyy - 2/22/13 at 10:02am
post #5945 of 16357
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Yes. NTSC DVD is 720x480, PAL is 720x576. The color standards are different, too.

-Bill

Well mastered PAL standard DVDs can looke very, very good because of the native resolution being 20% greater. People in PAL countries did not see as much improvement with HDTV as those of us in NTSC countries did.

Technically PAL and NTSC format have the same information content because the increased vertical resolution for PAL is offset by the decreased frame rate (30fps for NTSC vs 25fps for PAL -- doubled to 60 and 50 respectively in modern, progressive displays). If you do the math, the data rate is the same (not a coincidence -- it was necessary so they could standardize on how much broadcast frequency bandwidth to allocate to each broadcast TV station).

The *REAL* advantage of PAL for SD movies is that there is no need to do telecine. I.e., they don't raise the 24 frames per second of film to 30 frames per second (as is done for NTSC) by holding some portions of the image on screen longer than other portions -- thus resulting in "cadence judder".

Instead, 24fps content is displayed on PAL TVs as 25fps. I.e., they just play it faster! The change in video rate is small enough that the eye doesn't notice, but the audio track has to be pitch adjusted during the authoring to keep it from shifting up in frequency. The result is that a given title on PAL plays in 96% of the time it takes to play it on NTSC.
--Bob
post #5946 of 16357
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Originally Posted by Jon B. View Post

Obviously, when I hit "Info" on the TV or Oppo it always says 1080i, but that is only because I have the DVR set to output 1080i (it does not support native resolution).
Actually, the Oppo's INFO button displays both input (at top of screen) and output (at bottom of screen) information. So you can see what the DVR is putting out that's being fed into the external input of the Oppo, which of course would be whatever you've currently got the DVR set to since it doesn't have a "native" option. Unfortunately the DVR doesn't provide a way to see the source program resolution.

If your HDTV accepts 1080p, and the Oppo is set to AUTO or 1080p video output, the INFO on the TV would always show 1080p arriving (from the Oppo, not from the DVR). The TV would never show 720p or 1080i source program resolution, nor would it show 720p or 1080i out of the DVR into the Oppo. It would only show the 1080p being fed from Oppo to the TV.
post #5947 of 16357
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Originally Posted by DSperber View Post


If your HDTV accepts 1080p, and the Oppo is set to AUTO or 1080p video output, the INFO on the TV would always show 1080p arriving (from the Oppo, not from the DVR). The TV would never show 720p or 1080i source program resolution, nor would it show 720p or 1080i out of the DVR into the Oppo. It would only show the 1080p being fed from Oppo to the TV.
I realize this has probably been asked before, but even thought the Oppo upconverts the 720i STB pic to 1080p does it look any better? Because it starts how it starts, like an MP3 file at 128kbps. Upconverting that to 320kbps isn't going to sound any better. Are video compression sources any different?
post #5948 of 16357
^ If you have a modern, 1080p display, then 720p content *WILL* be upscaled before the pixels light up.

The only question is which device does the upscaling.
--Bob
post #5949 of 16357
Hi all,

Thanks to everyone for their contributions. Good to learn so much about a player that i sso capable.

I have had my 103 since the New Year and love it so far. I have a modest set up. Panny VT25, Denon 2311CI, Oppo 103, XBOX 360, WDTV Live hub, Cisco PVR(Rogers) and Tannoy HTS 201 7.1 set up.

I have mainly watched Blu Rays and have really loved it. More depth is someting I have noticed the most. But for you guys that are looking to buy one and only care about Blu Ray. Still try the Oppo. The load speed alone is great, my old Panny BDP100 was horrible so the 103 was a huge step up. I can get to the play menu way faster.

I also have my WDTV hooked up to the HDMI in on the back of the 103. Very happy with the picture on my DVD rips from my 3 3TB drives.

Not to mention for those that want a complete player, this is it. Not without faults though but from what I hear Oppo is great at addressing problems with future firmware releases. It plays all kinds of discs and has streaming capabilities. Too bad some of the apps are not available in Canada.

I have not experience any of the +1 or 0 issues as noted here many times but I am assuming that is only on standard def content which I have mainly watched blu rays. I'll check it out.


Watching Blu rays on my VT25 was always nice but the 103 gives it a bit of a boost. I know this movie kind of sucks but I thought Dredd 3D sounded amazing. Looked great in both 3D and 2D. I can only imagine what it would have sounded like if I had better speakers.

The only real issue I have noticed is sometimes the disc does not appear to load properly after hitting play on the main menu. This happened on TDKR, the screen goes all distorted and wavy. Once you restart the Oppo, all is good. Only happens rarely.

Thanks to all the posters and the experts on this thread.

JJ
post #5950 of 16357
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ If you have a modern, 1080p display, then 720p content *WILL* be upscaled before the pixels light up.

The only question is which device does the upscaling.
--Bob
Right, if nothing else the TV must upscale it so there are enough pixels to fill the screen. What I'm getting from this thread is that many of the
videophile posters believe that the Oppo results is better looking BDs and DVDs that other players. I take that to mean that the Oppo has superior components that "read" the disc, akin to a superior phono cartridge/turntable playing an LP. Which makes sense. The TV of course is the speakers. What I'm also getting is that using the Oppo to improve your STB content is more questionale/variable. Which also makes sense because the source varies a lot whereas a DVD or BD is always a disc in the machine.
post #5951 of 16357
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Originally Posted by thebignewt View Post

I realize this has probably been asked before, but even thought the Oppo upconverts the 720i STB pic to 1080p does it look any better? Because it starts how it starts, like an MP3 file at 128kbps. Upconverting that to 320kbps isn't going to sound any better. Are video compression sources any different?
It's 720p, not 720i. It's 1080i.

But your MP3 audio analogy is not quite valid for video. Yes, if the music file has already been psychoacoustically lossy-compressed from original WAV to 128kbps MP3 (a pretty poor bitrate for today), listening to it will sound relatively poor. Transcoding it now to either a higher MP3 bitrate, or FLAC or WAV, will do nothing to put back the original source "bits" which got lost in the original psychoacoustic lossy-compression from WAV to MP3. You'll just get a larger file, but no improvement in sound. In fact it might sound worse if you re-encode to a higher bitrate MP3, as this is yet a second application of psychoacoustic lossy-compression on top of the already lossy-compressed 128kbps MP3.

Incidentally, if you're really serious about MP3 format and want "best" results you should really use LAME and encode your own CD's to highest-quality VBR MP3 (variable bitrate and highest quality, up to 320kbps max, not CBR at some fixed bitrate). Personally, I'm a FLAC person, as I don't have a file size/space consideration and simply want "absolute 100% original bit-perfect sound" compressed about 50% from the original WAV along with the ability to carry metadata and album art in "tags" for display on PC or PMP.

Now with video upconversion, you're making up "approximate pixels" by interpolation in between the known source pixels in the lower resolution source. But this does "look better" if the interpolation is good, and will definitely look smoother rather than ragged/jaggie/blocky as the original lower resolution source might look on the higher-resolution screen. No, it's not true high-resolution 1080p source, but it probably looks better than pure 720p on the 1080 pixel screen.


As Bob stated, if the HDTV is a modern flat panel its native display resolution (i.e. pixel implementation and "progressive" presentation method) is 1080p. So if you feed it something other than 1080p source, it will do what's appropriate to convert that source to 1080p for display on the screen.

If the source is only 720p, it's obvious that there must be pixel interpolation in order to upconvert it to 1080p for display. As Bob mentioned, you either get that done (a) in the DVR (if you had say a new Motorola cable DVR model which could put out upconverted 1080p from 720p/1080i source channel programs), (b) in the Oppo, or (c) in the HDTV. You could even potentially get that upconvert to 1080p done in an AVR or video processor if one of those was also on the HDMI relay path from original source through all your devices and eventually to the HDTV.

The ideal arrangement is to get the 1080p upconvert done using that device which does it "best". Generally, I'd say the HDTV itself is that optimal device. But the 103 adds the QDEO processing to the 1080p upconvert, and to my eyes the results of that addition make it "the best" device to produce the 1080p your HDTV wants. So the HDTV will have nothing further to do except display the 1080p which it's being fed.
post #5952 of 16357
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Originally Posted by thebignewt View Post

Right, if nothing else the TV must upscale it so there are enough pixels to fill the screen. What I'm getting from this thread is that many of the
videophile posters believe that the Oppo results is better looking BDs and DVDs that other players. I take that to mean that the Oppo has superior components that "read" the disc, akin to a superior phono cartridge/turntable playing an LP. Which makes sense. The TV of course is the speakers. What I'm also getting is that using the Oppo to improve your STB content is more questionale/variable. Which also makes sense because the source varies a lot whereas a DVD or BD is always a disc in the machine.

For shiny disc playback there's processing that HAS to happen in the player and there's also processing that MIGHT happen in the player. That latter is divided between value added processing the player might do (e.g., DVD 24p Conversion or 2D -> 3D Conversion) or processing that will happen ANYWAY in some later device if the player isn't set to do it (e.g., conversion from 4:2:2 to 4:4:4 which has to happen SOMEPLACE before the pixels can light up if the OPPO has not already done it).

The thing is, there are lots of ways this stuff can be screwed up, and even major brand players have been caught doing just that. So in one sense the shiny disc playback from the OPPO will be better to the extent it doesn't screw up compared to other players. Now some of this stuff -- some of the potential ways to screw up -- can be pretty subtle to see. So whether you will SEE a difference depends on the calibration of your display and how sensitive you are to different forms of defect.



The situation for cable TV and satellite TV set top boxes is VERY different. Many of these boxes, indeed quite possibly MOST of them, are notorious for how badly they handle video processing. I'm not kidding, some of these boxes are shockingly bad.

So it is ALMOST ALWAYS better to have the cable/satellite box do the least possible video processing. Get a box that offers "native" resolution output, and pair it with something else that can do the heavy lifting -- a directly connected TV with decent processing, an AVR, or something like the OPPO.

Now, at the moment there are some bugs in the OPPO that get in the way of it doing the best possible job for this. For example, you should not send HD resolution video in RGB video format to the HDMI Inputs, because the OPPO currently isn't handling that correctly. Use YCbCr input instead.

But bugs aside, if you can get a box that outputs "native" resolution, I'd expect MORE visible improvement passing it through the OPPO instead of setting the box to do its own 1080p output.

Now cable and satellite programs are all over the map in terms of inherent quality. The worse the program content the more it will mask the good job the OPPO is doing. But for BETTER program content, the improvement -- compared to having the box do the job itself -- should be quite noticeable.
--Bob
post #5953 of 16357
Quick question on AV sync using both HDMI outs.

I have identical cables running from HDMI 1 to display and HDMI 2 to AVR. AVR has an AV sync option in it thats On by defualt, just wondering if I should turn it Off. Ive not noticed any sync problems, and I would assume Oppo's goal is that the A/V signals on HDMI 1 are synced with the A/V signals coming from HDMI 2 anyways, for those folks using one for video and one for audio. Therefore, the AV sync in the AVR should not matter either way.

Just saw it today in my Denon and was curious.
post #5954 of 16357
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Originally Posted by DSperber View Post

There is a thread on AVS which lists all channels and whether it broadcasts at 720p or 1080i. However it's only been last updated as of March 2012, so additional channels born in the past year are not listed.

The complete national list of HD channels is shown on another AVS thread last updated as of Nov 2012, and at the bottom of the first post is an Excel spreadsheet attachment version of that chart.

Speed - 720p

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, really appreciate it.

Also, you're right, if I ran the DVR through the Oppo and then hit Info I would get the 1080p signal. Currently, I have the DVR plugged straight into my VT50 (which is why I get the 1080i notation) - was going to wait and see if Oppo does a firmware where it will give you the option to leave the source on the HDMI input, when you power on/off the Oppo.

Thanks again.
post #5955 of 16357
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by gadgtfreek View Post

I have identical cables running from HDMI 1 to display and HDMI 2 to AVR. AVR has an AV sync option in it thats On by defualt, just wondering if I should turn it Off. Ive not noticed any sync problems, and I would assume Oppo's goal is that the A/V signals on HDMI 1 are synced with the A/V signals coming from HDMI 2 anyways, for those folks using one for video and one for audio. Therefore, the AV sync in the AVR should not matter either way

I generally recommend that you set the receiver to OFF for A/V Sync. If the receiver has an Audio Delay or Delay, then use this preference and set a discrete mode like 75ms.
post #5956 of 16357
I just received my 103 this week an plan on connecting it up no my new Yamaha RX-A 2020 this weekend. Do any of you recommend patching it only through the receiver or do you think running the two HDMI cables is the best way to go?
post #5957 of 16357
Thread Starter 
There is no real reason to bypass that receiver. The only thing I would recommend is upgrading the firmware on the Yamaha to the latest firmware release when it becomes available. I know the A820 (among others) received a 1.71 firmware recently to resolve audio issues with HDMI 1 from the BDP-103.

If you find you are getting no audio, then you will need to split HDMI 1 and HDMI 2, with HDMI 1 going to the display and HDMI 2 going to the receiver for audio.
post #5958 of 16357
OK. Thanks. I had read about the issues but have not read about a patch to fix it.
post #5959 of 16357
All- So I have not posted to this thread but wanted to point out some observations regarding Sharpness +1 Vs 0 Via HDMI 1. I have gone back and fourth on HD Cable, Blu Ray, and Vudu streaming HDX. To my eyes, there is no "right" answer, there is simply a tradeoff that I see:

My findings are a bit different but here goes:


For WELL MASTERED Blu Ray- The affect of Sharpness +1 is VERY subtle and if anything adds to detail WITHOUT the sacrifice to motion and "natural look"
For Vudu and HD Cable, I feel it is better set to 0 as those sources show less natural/organic motion with Sharpness at +1. While detail is improved the consequences to motion and a "natural" picture are sacrificed just a tad too much.


In summary I think

Sharpness +1 improves very fine detail. The compromise is that motion is affected in a way that may be adverse to some. I am one of them that finds the affect distracting and I am unable to "Relax" my eyes when looking at it.
The impact to High Quality Blu-Ray seems to be more sublte and work in a way that I PREFER "slightly" interms of my ability to see detail. The motion consequences seem to be less than with non well mastered blu ray disc sources.


Does that make sense?

So until Firmware changes, for me on a Panasonc 58 VT25, I think Blu Ray = Shaprness +1. All other sources = Sharpness at 0.

As others have stated, I believe that the "happy" answer may be a firmware update where Sharpness 0 = Sharpness at .5
post #5960 of 16357
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Originally Posted by darthkringle View Post

All- So I have not posted to this thread but wanted to point out some observations regarding Sharpness +1 Vs 0 Via HDMI 1. I have gone back and fourth on HD Cable, Blu Ray, and Vudu streaming HDX. To my eyes, there is no "right" answer, there is simply a tradeoff that I see:

My findings are a bit different but here goes:


For WELL MASTERED Blu Ray- The affect of Sharpness +1 is VERY subtle and if anything adds to detail WITHOUT the sacrifice to motion and "natural look"
For Vudu and HD Cable, I feel it is better set to 0 as those sources show less natural/organic motion with Sharpness at +1. While detail is improved the consequences to motion and a "natural" picture are sacrificed just a tad too much.


In summary I think

Sharpness +1 improves very fine detail. The compromise is that motion is affected in a way that may be adverse to some. I am one of them that finds the affect distracting and I am unable to "Relax" my eyes when looking at it.
The impact to High Quality Blu-Ray seems to be more sublte and work in a way that I PREFER "slightly" interms of my ability to see detail. The motion consequences seem to be less than with non well mastered blu ray disc sources.


Does that make sense?

So until Firmware changes, for me on a Panasonc 58 VT25, I think Blu Ray = Shaprness +1. All other sources = Sharpness at 0.

As others have stated, I believe that the "happy" answer may be a firmware update where Sharpness 0 = Sharpness at .5
I too would be happy with a .5 update for sharpness. I too find +1 a tad too much with satellite tv, as well as some bluray movies. On most blurays it does add to the detail. To give a couple examples, I thought +1 added fine detail, and looked great with "the Avengers", but added to much to "the hunger games".
post #5961 of 16357
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Originally Posted by dstr212 View Post

I know the chroma and other issues come from HDMI 2 unfortunately, can those be adjusted via the picture adjustment menu to come in line with a proper calibration or are they just too far off to correct?

I think I am the first person to bring up the chroma up sampling problems I encountered using the S&M tests on HDMI 2. Other than up sampling, with source Direct, I think the 103 presents a wonderfully detailed picture with no other issues. However my setup (Lumagen Radiance vp and Elite 70X5) fails all the tests. I can see the reduced luminance in 422 and 444 and RGB washes out the colors. If I can see this with my eyes, be the definition calibrators use for good results (less than 2de) the up sampling problems would cause the calibration to be inaccurate. Others have reported that there setups pass at least 1 of the color space tests and I seem to remember someone reporting that his setup passed them all. Regarding proper calibration correcting the problem, I would wait to see if what Oppo's engineers have to say about a fix.

Is Oppo aware of your findings?

post #5962 of 16357
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Originally Posted by Recstar24 View Post

My oppo 103 is staying frozen on the start up oppo logo screen, and is unresponsive to any remote controls. I've tried unplugging and plugging back in to no avail. Any thoughts?

I had the same problem with my Oppo 103 and I returned it to Amazon for another one. I hope it was before 30 days.

Good luck
post #5963 of 16357
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Originally Posted by candoan View Post

I had the same problem with my Oppo 103 and I returned it to Amazon for another one. I hope it was before 30 days.

Good luck

It was past 30 days but still within warranty. Oppo was awesome with the return process. Shipped out yesterday.
post #5964 of 16357
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

Is Oppo aware of your findings?

Yes. I contacted them on 1/20. See post 5276 for details.
post #5965 of 16357
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Originally Posted by Recstar24 View Post

It was past 30 days but still within warranty. Oppo was awesome with the return process. Shipped out yesterday.

Good for you and hoping that the second one will be better for us.
post #5966 of 16357
ANY BODY USING A HDFURY TO A NON COMPLIANT PROJECTOR FROM THE OPPO 103?

I found a couple of products on amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-Plated-Premium-Adapter/dp/B00879DM56/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top




http://www.amazon.com/HDfuryproTwo-Component-Converter-Support-Surround/dp/B009YP7Y56/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=36S57QSTWICRV&coliid=I24KSXX22URS46

this is just to keep my old sanyo plv70 projector usable with the oppo until i get a new projector
Edited by larryep - 2/23/13 at 6:16am
post #5967 of 16357
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

I generally recommend that you set the receiver to OFF for A/V Sync. If the receiver has an Audio Delay or Delay, then use this preference and set a discrete mode like 75ms.

Thanks. Just to make sure I understand, what I take away is that the video on HDMI one is running a little behind that of HDMI two, so by slowing down the audio in the avr by 75 ms, it makes audio from the mediatek and video from the marvell match up better?
post #5968 of 16357
This is interesting since my 103 is scheduled to arrive this Wednesday.

I too have a BlackArmor 220 that worked with my old WD TV Live just fine. Streamed all of my FLAC and AVI files without a glitch until the dreaded firmware update. Now it's a brick.

Anyway, I too wish to stream from the NAS. Research shows that the 220 uses a version of miniDNLA, vintage unknown and unsupported, which is why it is so flakey.

I use a Windows 8 PC but that has nothing to do with the 103-to-NAS issue. I'll let you know what goes down on my end by next week.

From other posts on the 220's DNLA issue, I've found a suggestion. Try making the share a PUBLIC share and see if it works. (ACCESS > FOLDER SHARE > PUBLIC ACCESS > Enable)

Give this a shot and let me know if it works.
post #5969 of 16357
I got my BDP-103 a few days ago and have been setting it up and getting familiar with its features. I've run into a couple of issues I'm hoping you guys can help me with.


1) The player's YouTube app won't remember that it has synched with my YouTube account and asks me to activate it every time. A quick search of this thread highlighted that this was a problem with previous beta firmwares, but the player updated itself to the latest firmware (BDP10X-38-1220) two days ago. Is this still a lingering issue that Oppo needs to sort out?

2) Is there a simpler way to navigate my playlists within the YouTube app than trying to use the arrow keys to skip through every video in sequential order? I have 50+ videos in my 'Favorites' list and given the laggy-ness of the controls response from the remote, this is pretty tedious.

3) I set the player up to stream my media files via WiFi. I'm just using Windows Media Player (on a Windows 7 Pro machine) as the media server to share my media directories. The player seems to have no issue streaming .avi, .mpeg and .mp3 files. However, the player can't seem to find any .mkv files. It will list the directory with the .mkv file in it's browser, but when I navigate into the folder to access the file, it shows the folder as empty. However, if I copy an .mkv file to a USB data stick, the player will find the file on the stick and play it. Oddly, I need to set the audio output from the player (coaxial audio out to my Denon AVR-3803) to 192k LPCM to get sound to play. Bitstream does not work. Any ideas as to what's going on here? Why can't the player see .mkv files over WiFi streaming?

4) Searching this thread, it's a little unclear as to how the player handles subtitle files. Some posts seem to suggest that the player can recognize separate .srt files and load them with the video file (presumably as long as the .srt file name is the same as the video file). Other posts seem to suggest that the player can only render the subtitles if they are integrated ('muxed'?) into the video file. Playing through my existing files, it seems that the subtitles need to be integrated into the video file for the player to render them. Is that the only way to get the subs to render? If so, what's the best way to integrate external .srt files into their associated video files?
post #5970 of 16357
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3) I set the player up to stream my media files via WiFi. I'm just using Windows Media Player (on a Windows 7 Pro machine) as the media server to share my media directories. The player seems to have no issue streaming .avi, .mpeg and .mp3 files. However, the player can't seem to find any .mkv files. It will list the directory with the .mkv file in it's browser, but when I navigate into the folder to access the file, it shows the folder as empty. However, if I copy an .mkv file to a USB data stick, the player will find the file on the stick and play it. Oddly, I need to set the audio output from the player (coaxial audio out to my Denon AVR-3803) to 192k LPCM to get sound to play. Bitstream does not work. Any ideas as to what's going on here? Why can't the player see .mkv files over WiFi streaming?

I recall that Windows require a separate codec pack for MKV. Or you could try a different DLNA server; WMP is not a favorite around here.
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4) Searching this thread, it's a little unclear as to how the player handles subtitle files. Some posts seem to suggest that the player can recognize separate .srt files and load them with the video file (presumably as long as the .srt file name is the same as the video file). Other posts seem to suggest that the player can only render the subtitles if they are integrated ('muxed'?) into the video file. Playing through my existing files, it seems that the subtitles need to be integrated into the video file for the player to render them. Is that the only way to get the subs to render? If so, what's the best way to integrate external .srt files into their associated video files?

External srt files work on local storage and over SMB, but DLNA does not support such a thing.

The character set in srt files is limited to the extended ascii used in Western Europe. You have greater font coverage when the file is embedded in MKV.

Embedded srt files work via every means. "mkvmerge" is free and fast.

-Bill
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