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post #601 of 8963
10/12/12 at 1:53pm
No, it stays on the Netflix Icon, but the Play button STILL closes the tray, loads the disc, and picks up playback of the SACD at the Resume Point.

I presume you have both Auto Play and Auto Resume enabled in Setup, right?
--Bob
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post #602 of 8963
10/12/12 at 1:57pm
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For me which is probably represents the 47% of most users on this forum(haha), the Spears disc was totally useless unless you have the a clear understanding of what your looking for or what to adjust. I tried to use it multiple times and just plain gave up and now would give it away if I could. I bought the Disney version on a whim and it does a much better job explaining on what each adjustment does and how to adjust it. I know it sounds silly to trust a Blu-Ray disc from Disney to adjust your AV rack but it really works. I've also found that the HDMI audio delay tool they uses is really helpful with a graphical interface to check your audio delays. Just my 2 cents.
But out of the box, the Oppo is fantastic and I am not using any of the on-board video adjustments or my AVR video adjustments. I leave it all up to the TV. I really don't understand why devices would even offer picture adjustments unless they are hooking them up to a display without it's own adjustments.

Interesting. I didnt' even know Disney made one.

They do, and they are good ones: "WOW World of Wonder", both in SD-DVD and Blu-ray versions. Each comes with an additional disc of demo material. They are good to have AS WELL, but for setting up video format, geometry, and levels, I feel you can check more details, to a finer degree, using Spears & Munsil.

If you would like to collect a set of such discs, the other one you will likely want to latch onto is "DVE HD Basics", Blu-ray.
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post #603 of 8963
10/12/12 at 2:10pm
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Just took the plunge into networked media storage with my new Western Digital My Book Live Duo (2 x 2TB that I put into RAID 1). The installation disc made things a snap, and things seem to be networked properly: my desktop, laptop, BDP-103, and WD all are recognized, and I've successfully transferred files to the subfolders (video, audio, picture) of the public folder of the WD.
The BDP-103 displays jpg images fine; plays flac audio fine (still need to check out other audio formats); and plays avi and mpg video fine.
MY QUESTION: Why do mkv files that I have copied to the WD not even show up in the video directory of the BDP-103 (they do copy properly and appear in the directory when viewed on my computers)? I've seen some other discussion here about nuances with the mkv format (especially subtitles), but, again, I can't even get the files to display as a menu choice on the Oppo.
Oh, and the WD is configured as a DLNA media server (which others, it seems, have had success with for playing mkv files). Any ideas, folks?

Hi
Just a suggestion. Have you re-indexed your WD media server? It's quite common that when using a Media Server for the DLNA feature you have to re-index the media files. Specially when adding a bunch of new files.

I have a synology NAS powering my BDP-83 and everynow and then I have re-index the Media Server for all mymedia files to show. This can take time, especially if there are a lot of new files.

Might be worth to see if there's a indexing feature on the DLNA server on the WD.
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post #604 of 8963
10/12/12 at 2:15pm
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

No, it stays on the Netflix Icon, but the Play button STILL closes the tray, loads the disc, and picks up playback of the SACD at the Resume Point.
I presume you have both Auto Play and Auto Resume enabled in Setup, right?
--Bob

I have Auto Resume enabled and I just disabled Auto Play today. Would having Auto Start disabled effect the resume play feature? I'll enable Auto Start just to see if that makes a difference. But I would think that it would not be a factor as far as resume play goes.

Bill
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post #605 of 8963
10/12/12 at 2:22pm
Auto Play has to do with whether a music disc will start at all when you Close the Tray.

(Movie discs are always "Auto Play".)
--Bob
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post #606 of 8963
10/12/12 at 2:25pm
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Just received my 103 today, and have been playing with it this evening - I have over 400 titles (THAT I OWN) ripped onto a Synology server, so I wanted to test this first.
So the mostly good news is that it's playing the Blu Ray rips great - select a folder, hit enter, and it plays. I did have an issue with some branching Blu Rays, where it would just hang on a black screen after launching, like the Alien's Anthology and the Avatar Special Edition set - but I re-ripped with the latest AnyDVD HD, and now they play correctly (presents the title screen to selection which version you wish to play). I can even play a 3D BDMV from the NAS and it works (most of my 3D rips are to ISO, so I will have to redo them as BDMV's, which AnyDVD warns is not ideal, but i'm not sure why and if it works, I won't care)
What I can't yet do is play a DVD rip - selecting the folder only opens the folder, revealing the VIDEO_TS folder, and clicking that shows the VOB files - I can play them individually, but there is no coherent way I've seen yet to play the folder as a logical title.
I played a few m4v files authored from Final Cut Pro of my home vacation movies, and that seems to work great as well...
So by and large, really quite pleased - and I haven't opened the tray yet!
Extremely well built machine, the video and audio quality are superb out of box - 23.98hz material plays very smooth, switches to 59.94 correctly as well on everything I've tested.
There is a known bug (called Oppo) where the network file folders are not listed in correct alphabetical order, so hoping that will be fixed in the next firmware in a few weeks.
I also discovered it's pronounced OH-PO, not AH-PO, though this has not materially changed my life.

Hi
Just so you know, if you have a Synology NAS (I do), you probably don't have to redo your ISO files. You slimply use the Mount feature of the Synology and mount the ISO to a shared folder in the shared video folder. More info on how to mount iso's on Synology can be found on http://forum.synology.com/wiki/index.php/ISO_Image_Mount_on_the_Synology_DiskStation

I've done it on my Synology DS211. Once mounted just browse to the STREAM folder in the BD structure and play the file there. This over DLNA as my BDP-83 doesn't support SMB.
This works perfectly on my BDP-83, yes that's 83 not 93.
So probably no need to redo the ISO's.

Cheers

Oh, just don't forget to re-index the NAS Media Server afterwards. (There's a perl script called update-syno.sh to be found if you google for fast re-indexing but that involves logging in via ssh and can be a bit daunting.)
Edited by Vagabond - 10/12/12 at 2:37pm
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post #607 of 8963
10/12/12 at 2:33pm
Really going out on a limb here, but do you think OPPO will have a trade in program, I give back my 93 and for a few extra dollars they send me a 103.
Just thinking.
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post #608 of 8963
10/12/12 at 2:35pm
^ Highly unlikely (presuming you are beyond the 30 day return window). However the resale value of 93s is pretty darned good right now (EBAY, AUDIOGON, CRAIGSLIST, etc.).
--Bob
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post #609 of 8963
10/12/12 at 2:36pm
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Auto Play has to do with whether a music disc will start at all when you Close the Tray.
(Movie discs are always "Auto Play".)
--Bob

Thats what I thought so disabling Auto Play is not the issue.

Bill
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post #610 of 8963
10/12/12 at 2:38pm
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^ Highly unlikely (presuming you are beyond the 30 day return window). However the resale value of 93s is pretty darned good right now (EBAY, AUDIOGON, CRAIGSLIST, etc.).
--Bob

I would also suggest Videogon as there are no seller fees at all. I sold my 83SE there in just a few hours smile.gif. Since Audiogon did their "makeover" I refuse to use them to sell any components.

Bill
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post #611 of 8963
10/12/12 at 2:58pm
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Hi
Just so you know, if you have a Synology NAS (I do), you probably don't have to redo your ISO files. You slimply use the Mount feature of the Synology and mount the ISO to a shared folder in the shared video folder. More info on how to mount iso's on Synology can be found on http://forum.synology.com/wiki/index.php/ISO_Image_Mount_on_the_Synology_DiskStation
I've done it on my Synology DS211. Once mounted just browse to the STREAM folder in the BD structure and play the file there. This over DLNA as my BDP-83 doesn't support SMB.
This works perfectly on my BDP-83, yes that's 83 not 93.
So probably no need to redo the ISO's.
Cheers
Oh, just don't forget to re-index the NAS Media Server afterwards. (There's a perl script called update-syno.sh to be found if you google for fast re-indexing but that involves logging in via ssh and can be a bit daunting.)

Yes, I tried this and it works, but I think it only supports 16 instances of virtual mounting at a time, and I would be doubling my storage requirements

http://forum.synology.com/wiki/index.php/ISO_Image_Mount_on_the_Synology_DiskStation

Not a big deal to mount and re-rip the image...
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post #612 of 8963
10/12/12 at 3:19pm
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Hi
Just a suggestion. Have you re-indexed your WD media server? It's quite common that when using a Media Server for the DLNA feature you have to re-index the media files. Specially when adding a bunch of new files.
I have a synology NAS powering my BDP-83 and everynow and then I have re-index the Media Server for all mymedia files to show. This can take time, especially if there are a lot of new files.
Might be worth to see if there's a indexing feature on the DLNA server on the WD.

There is, in fact, a re-index feature that they call "re-build." I tried that this afternoon and, interestingly, now a sample .vob file that I placed in the folder is now visible and playable on the Oppo. But still no .mkv files show up.

I briefly googled for solutions, and other users have the same issue. Possible proposed solutions seem like more trouble than I care to deal with. I'm going to return the WD device to *est *uy and get the Synology, because a couple of days ago, there was this post:

Originally Posted by bluechunks

FWIW, if you (or anybody else) does go with a Synology NAS the default DLNA Media Server package works great and streams everything, including HD MKV's, just fine on my low powered and inexpensive DS212j to the 103.

I assume the same goes for you with your Synology and the BDP-83. Which Synology do you have?

Thanks for your input.
Edited by HT in MSP - 10/12/12 at 3:27pm
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post #613 of 8963
10/12/12 at 4:05pm
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Originally Posted by HT in MSP View Post

There is, in fact, a re-index feature that they call "re-build." I tried that this afternoon and, interestingly, now a sample .vob file that I placed in the folder is now visible and playable on the Oppo. But still no .mkv files show up.
I briefly googled for solutions, and other users have the same issue. Possible proposed solutions seem like more trouble than I care to deal with. I'm going to return the WD device to *est *uy and get the Synology, because a couple of days ago, there was this post:
Originally Posted by bluechunks
FWIW, if you (or anybody else) does go with a Synology NAS the default DLNA Media Server package works great and streams everything, including HD MKV's, just fine on my low powered and inexpensive DS212j to the 103.
I assume the same goes for you with your Synology and the BDP-83. Which Synology do you have?
Thanks for your input.

Hi

I have the DS211 which I bought last year. I'm very impressed by the Synology NAS. 4tb in raid1 (so 2TB). I've even installed Serviio and tried it but went back to the built in Media Server. However, the ARM processor is too weak for any transcoding, so Plex is not an option. As it works great on my BDP-83, it would probably work even greater on the 103 given the better media format support on the 103.
At times I wish the BDP-83 wasn't so good! It would then be easier to justify the upgrade to the 103…

Now if the 103 had customizable font size for subtitles, I wouldn't be able to resist… :-)

Cheers
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post #614 of 8963
10/12/12 at 4:14pm
Gonna watch my first DVD in many moons (wife grabbed a flick she has never seen from a friend). Be interesting to see how the 103 does with DVD PQ, kinda excited.
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post #615 of 8963
10/12/12 at 4:48pm
I just received my 103. Netflix went from OK on the AppleTVII to excellent on the -103-and don't know why. Could be due to color choices and/or more choices in the Settings but I am definately thrilled. I am using supplied HDMI from input #1 to input on my Denon A100 to Sony XBR. Blacks doubled, clarity increased:D
Dave
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post #616 of 8963
10/12/12 at 6:51pm
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I see you editted your original post but if the Motorola RNG150 is the same as the Motorola DCX 3400 you should be able to toggle between the three different 3D modes by pressing the on/off button or the swap button in the PIP section of your cable box remote, which is located at the bottom of the remote. My system switched to the Pace RNG 110/200 series boxes from the Motorola boxes and this function is no longer available. I do not know if this applies to Motorola.

I wish the PIP button worked for changing modes, rather than going through the menu on ASUS... but it doesn't seem to with this box (PIP buttons do nothing, on any channel). I appreciate you suggesting it though and just glad I found a solution that works :-)
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post #617 of 8963
10/12/12 at 8:14pm
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I just received my 103. Netflix went from OK on the AppleTVII to excellent on the -103-and don't know why. Could be due to color choices and/or more choices in the Settings but I am definately thrilled. I am using supplied HDMI from input #1 to input on my Denon A100 to Sony XBR. Blacks doubled, clarity increased:D
Dave

Netflix on the ATV 2 could only use the 720p streams. The 103 can use the full 1080p streams.
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post #618 of 8963
10/13/12 at 12:23am
There has been mentions of the 103 having better DVD upscaling compared to the 93.

Is anyone able to compare upscaling of non DVD sources, such as AVI media and 720p MKV files in particular?
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post #619 of 8963
10/13/12 at 1:15am
Well its official - My 1st OPPO player ever (BDP-103). Should be here on Thursday of next week. Can't wait to see what all the fuss is about.
My PS3 is dying so I wanted to step up to this player. Looking forward to it
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post #620 of 8963
10/13/12 at 1:36am
First post. Could there be any hardware changes in the BDP-103 after the first round of feedback goes back to Oppo? Like increasing the internal memory back to same level as the 93? That would give me a reason to wait to buy the 103. Or should I jump in now? I haven't found any online reviews yet. Should I wait for them or have you forum members essentially tested the 103 well and determined that it is fantastic? The comments in this forum have been very helpful and informative. Hopefully I can contribute. I currently do not have a Blu-ray player. I'd really like to get the 103 now, but have the above concerns. Thank you. Jim
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post #621 of 8963
10/13/12 at 2:57am
anyone tried a SACD-R yet to check if the new oppo still supports these disc's? hopefully i can get an answer so i know if i can upgrade to the newer BDP-105 no SACD-r is a deal breaker as i bought the BDP-95 for that and direct dsd to analogue features. Thanks
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post #622 of 8963
10/13/12 at 4:19am
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I would also suggest Videogon as there are no seller fees at all. I sold my 83SE there in just a few hours smile.gif. Since Audiogon did their "makeover" I refuse to use them to sell any components.
Bill

I am keeping my 83. Still the best DVD player to date.
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post #623 of 8963
10/13/12 at 5:26am
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First post. Could there be any hardware changes in the BDP-103 after the first round of feedback goes back to Oppo? Like increasing the internal memory back to same level as the 93? That would give me a reason to wait to buy the 103. Or should I jump in now? I haven't found any online reviews yet. Should I wait for them or have you forum members essentially tested the 103 well and determined that it is fantastic? The comments in this forum have been very helpful and informative. Hopefully I can contribute. I currently do not have a Blu-ray player. I'd really like to get the 103 now, but have the above concerns. Thank you. Jim
Welcome, Jim!

After owning the 83, 93, and now the 103 I'd suggest its safe to jump in with both feet. The 103 really is fantastic. The memory issue is a non-concern, IMHO, because storing end-points of discs for future playback uses only a tiny fraction of the available memory per disc. It's nothing more than a marketing checkbox and probably the reason why Oppo went with the smaller memory: more was not even close to being nessesary.

Look at the reviews for the 83 and 93 (both stellar) and now improve the video quality (again, and particularly compared to the 93's deinterlacing performance) and also dramatically improve the speed of the player due to the new dual core processor. I can tell you already what the reviews will say. wink.gif
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10/13/12 at 6:16am
Q. Does anyone know if I will have any trouble using a 3.5mm stereo M/M plug from my Control4 IR output to the BDP-103. Hopefully the IR input is not like the DirecTV HR34 where it will only work with an IR sensor/extension. I ask because the manual is a little vague about it. I built a serial driver for the Oppo but I'm finding out that my 2 Denon receivers aren't going to do IP control without intermittent issues and I'm limited to 2 serials without adding an I/O extender. If I can get the Oppo to do IR control properly through a straight cable then I can create a new IR driver.

From the manual:

The BDP-103 features an IR IN port on its back panel. If the player is to be installed in an equipment cabinet
where direct line-of-sight is not available for the remote control, you can purchase an external IR Remote
Sensor and plug it into the IR IN port. Place the sensor head at a location where there is direct line-of-sight to
ensure reliable operation.

Please contact OPPO customer support if you plan to integrate the player into an IR
distribution system. Customer support can provide recommendations on how to properly
connect the control signals.

Thanks.
Edited by pentium7 - 10/13/12 at 3:46pm
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post #625 of 8963
10/13/12 at 6:47am
Regards, someone could tell me what date is scheduled BDP103 Oppo sale in France. Thank you.
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post #626 of 8963
10/13/12 at 6:56am
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Regards, someone could tell me what date is scheduled BDP103 Oppo sale in France. Thank you.

It appears the OPPO BDP-103EU is already shipping in Europe, in limited quantities to begin with. There's already been at least one post (see link above) from a French source describing unboxing and trial of their first player. The European players come from OPPO UK, and the OPPO UK web site still says it expects dealers to have them this month. They also list the dealers so you can check with dealers nearest to you:

http://www.oppo-bluray.co.uk

--Bob
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post #627 of 8963
10/13/12 at 6:58am
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Originally Posted by pentium7 View Post

Q. Does anyone know if I will have any trouble using a 3.5mm stereo M/M plug from my Control4 IR output to the BDP-103. Hopefully the IR input is not like the DirecTV HR34 where it will only work with an IR sensor/extension. I ask because the manual is a little vague about it. I built a serial driver for the Oppo but I'm finding out the my 2 Denon receivers aren't going to do IP control without intermittent issues and I'm limited to 2 serials without adding an I/O extender. If I can get the Oppo to do IR control properly through a straight cable then I can create a new IR driver.

From the manual:

The BDP-103 features an IR IN port on its back panel. If the player is to be installed in an equipment cabinet
where direct line-of-sight is not available for the remote control, you can purchase an external IR Remote
Sensor and plug it into the IR IN port. Place the sensor head at a location where there is direct line-of-sight to
ensure reliable operation.

Please contact OPPO customer support if you plan to integrate the player into an IR
distribution system. Customer support can provide recommendations on how to properly
connect the control signals.

Thanks.

I don't know the answer specific to Control4, but I suspect OPPO Tech Support already has that answer, so I suggest you email them and see what they say. They are likely monitoring their email this weekend.
--Bob
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post #628 of 8963
10/13/12 at 7:01am
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Originally Posted by nothing10 View Post

anyone tried a SACD-R yet to check if the new oppo still supports these disc's? hopefully i can get an answer so i know if i can upgrade to the newer BDP-105 no SACD-r is a deal breaker as i bought the BDP-95 for that and direct dsd to analogue features. Thanks

This question has been asked several times already, and I'm surprised we don't have an answer yet, since I know there are folks using these with the older players. Unfortunately I don't make these myself, so I can't just try it for you.

SACD-R anyone? If you've got one, just pop it in your 103 and report.
--Bob
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post #629 of 8963
10/13/12 at 7:06am
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Originally Posted by JimD33 View Post

First post. Could there be any hardware changes in the BDP-103 after the first round of feedback goes back to Oppo? Like increasing the internal memory back to same level as the 93? That would give me a reason to wait to buy the 103. Or should I jump in now? I haven't found any online reviews yet. Should I wait for them or have you forum members essentially tested the 103 well and determined that it is fantastic? The comments in this forum have been very helpful and informative. Hopefully I can contribute. I currently do not have a Blu-ray player. I'd really like to get the 103 now, but have the above concerns. Thank you. Jim

First of all, welcome to AVS!

Any hardware changes will be invisible to you. It is not unusual for different production runs to roll in changes related to component parts availability, but that will not result in functional changes.

The internal memory is a non-issue. It won't affect playback of any titles. It also remains the case that users can use an external USB drive or USB stick in the highly unlikely case they need more memory for any reason.
--Bob
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post #630 of 8963
10/13/12 at 7:09am
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Originally Posted by Agisthos View Post

There has been mentions of the 103 having better DVD upscaling compared to the 93.

Is anyone able to compare upscaling of non DVD sources, such as AVI media and 720p MKV files in particular?

720p upscaling is also improved compared to the 93, particularly for the 103's HDMI 1 output.
--Bob
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