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post #6001 of 16447
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

this should work:

press setup on the remote
up arrow x 3
enter
up arrow x 1
enter
down arrow x1
enter

This should complete a reset to defaults.

Gonna try it now....will advise!

TY
post #6002 of 16447
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

Probably the same issue as previously reported on a number of titles with 7.1 THD and seamless branching navigation. this is not unique to Oppo players.
Setting the player to output PCM is a work-around.

Thanks, though my two Sony stand alone players don't seem to hiccup on these - and TDKR is DTS-HD....

Anyone know if Oppo has said this is a known issue that they are working on?
Edited by thrang - 2/24/13 at 9:37am
post #6003 of 16447
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Originally Posted by BadClams View Post

Gonna try it now....will advise!

TY

rdgrimes is da man.

I am VERY thankful for this forum and the expertise offered as it has saved my butt and guided me on multiple occasions.

However, as highly regarded as Oppo may be, this seems to me as something that should have been engineered into the system so folks don't inadvertently dork things up. They have been at this game for a while now, yet here is a situation I'm sure others can and will "oops" their way into, and it ought not be there in the first place, or at least have an easy way to back out of a situation without needing the secret-squirrel decoder ring solution (which isn't listed in the manual, btw!!!).

Writing the reset code into my Oppo manual now...

thanks again RD!
post #6004 of 16447
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

It does support external .srt for MKV and other containers, but the encoding is restricted to the extended ascii oriented to Western Europe: Windows cp1252, similar to ISO 8859-1.

However, when a srt file is embedded into an MKV with mkvmerge the text is converted to utf8 and there is a larger available code set. I found Eastern European characters, Cyrillic, Hebrew and some Japanese.

I don't recall testing Chinese, and I don't know how complete the coverage is for the others.

Unfortunately, utf8 is not supported in external files. I've asked for that but we have no way of knowing whether it will ever happen.

-Bill

I noticed that external SRT subtitle looks much better than the same SRT embedded. Why is that and is there a way to make embedded SRT looks just as good?

Thanks
post #6005 of 16447
Has anyone had a problem or maybe a similar issue where there is only a lip sync issue when watching a blu-ray and listening through my home theater system (which is connected by coax) but when I watch my STB so far it is working just fine. Also when I mute or turn the system off and use the tv speakers both work perfectly as well. Anyone ever see that or know what might be causing it?

On a side note, I just got the player a couple of days ago and so far I love it! Skyfall looks so awesome I've watched it 4 times on already haha. Watching Directv through it also seems to be a little better. I'd love to figure out whats going on with the audio though because the kung-fu movie mode is starting to lose its charm. My home theater is a logitech 5.1 surround system intended for computers but it has a coax and optical input. It has a surround delay setting but im not sure its doing anything, or anything much, because changing it while watching tv i cant throw the lip sync out of whack and while watching a movie i cant delay it enough to match it up. Any thoughts or help would be much appreciated!

Best,
Steve

Edit: I haven't had a chance to try netflix out yet on it so I'm not sure if there is an issue there or not, and also my own stupidity also has a chance to be extremely relevant to any problems i might ever have lol.
Edited by lepermess1ah - 2/24/13 at 10:52am
post #6006 of 16447
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Originally Posted by JazzGuyy View Post If you read through this and the 105 threads, you will find that a number of people are doing this with a good deal of success. There are a couple of things to be careful of after firmware updates or resets (the volume on the Oppo gets reset to 100%) and the generally lower average volume of BDs compared to CDs has caused problems for a few people.

 

Interesting is it because BRD are recorded without dynamic compressions the way new CDs are !

 

I tried the direct approach with the BDP-95 and it was very nice.  I like to have my SSP-800 in the middle, so I can use the Apple TV and also processing when I want to convert the 2.1 to 5.1 or 7.1

post #6007 of 16447
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Originally Posted by Dick Laurent View Post

Regarding lyp sync/audio sync: I was watching my first BD and in the middle of the movie (1.5 hours in) the lip sync started to delay. The Oppo is using HDMI 1 into the AVR, LPCM/Bitstream. Now everything I play is out of sync, BD and DVD. I also tried HDMI 2, no luck. Split display as well.

Both HDMI outputs do not have a lyp sync issue when connected directly to the TV. I also tried different HDMI ports on the AVR, and three different HDMI cables. There is no lyp sync issue with my other BD or HD DVD players. The AVR is an Onkyo SR806. So basically the audio is out of sync only when going through HDMI to the AVR.

Any ideas? I'm stumped. And annoyed.

Just a quick update, I reset the Oppo to factory settings again, set HDMI to Bitsrteam, and LPCM, and the same problem. I sent Oppo an email. I'll give them a couple days and then send it back to Amazon if there is no resolution. Sucks. I've been a strong Oppo supporter for about 10 years, but this is the first time I've encountered such a stubborn problem. We shall see. I have been lucky with my last four players to not end up with a dud, and I know, it's the nature of the beast.

Any input is greatly appreciated.
post #6008 of 16447
Well at this point I'm certain that at least on my 103 HDMI input is extremely temperamental and buggy.

Long story short: One of the main reasons for me to get 103 was HDMI input and 2 HDMI outs so I can run HD cable box via Oppo to utilize advanced video processing and occasionally to send signal to my 2nd TV in another room.

Not only there's no visible improvement in video quality when comparing to the signal from my 3 year old Denon 3310ci receiver(which has ABT 2010 processor) but what's far more irritating that there are some serious connectivity(handshake?) issues along with it.

I'd like to blame my "older" Motorola 3416 cable box for that but then again- it works great when connected via Denon receiver. So why can't it work with Oppo?

Unless both HDMI's are enabled in dual display mode, all I see on main TV is picture for 3 sec and the constant green screen flashing. OK so I would use both HDMI's out even when 2nd TV is off but there comes another bug- Oppo somehow manages to "mirror" HMDI 2 out audio settings(which are 2ch PCM because signal is being send directly to 2nd TV) and therefore only sends 2 ch audio to the main TV as well, even though incoming signal clearly shows as DD 5.1. OK, I can get back DD5.1 audio on my main TV by unplugging HDMI 2 but then here comes along green screen flashing!

I must confess-unlike many savvy Oppo owners here, I don't enjoy (nor can I afford) spending countless hours on tweaking and troubleshooting this thing to make it work in my humble and simple system. I bought 103 with the idea that it will be relatively easy to set up and run smoothly.
It has been quite opposite so far.

Any advice is appreciated before I send this thing back along with a few of not so kind regards biggrin.gif
Edited by giedrys - 2/24/13 at 11:30am
post #6009 of 16447
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Originally Posted by Votinh View Post

I noticed that external SRT subtitle looks much better than the same SRT embedded. Why is that

Must be different rendering routines but I don't know why that would be.

The quality distinction between external and embedded was reversed in earlier players.

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and is there a way to make embedded SRT looks just as good?

There is no player control for that and I don't believe MKV authoring offers anything either. If you convert your subtitles to a graphic format you can style them however you want, but I've never done it, or know if anyone else does it.

You should write up your observations and send them to OPPO support.

-Bill
post #6010 of 16447
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Originally Posted by BadClams View Post

rdgrimes is da man.

I am VERY thankful for this forum and the expertise offered as it has saved my butt and guided me on multiple occasions.

However, as highly regarded as Oppo may be, this seems to me as something that should have been engineered into the system so folks don't inadvertently dork things up. They have been at this game for a while now, yet here is a situation I'm sure others can and will "oops" their way into, and it ought not be there in the first place, or at least have an easy way to back out of a situation without needing the secret-squirrel decoder ring solution (which isn't listed in the manual, btw!!!).

Writing the reset code into my Oppo manual now...

thanks again RD!

Oppo did put the analog "diag" port on there for just this situation.

That said, yes its frustrating when you lose video. But on the other hand, if there was an easy "one-button" solution for doing a reset to defaults, far more people would complain because they did it by accident. Personally I'd like to see setup prompts displayed on the front panel so you could stumble through basic setup without a display. I suppose one lesson here is that deep color might be more trouble than its worth.
post #6011 of 16447
In previous players we hard this:
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Pressing the Display button for 10 or 15 seconds will reset the Video Setup options when you release the button. This includes the HDMI Options but not the Picture Adjustment settings. This is handy if you've accidentally made a change (Color Space, for example) that your display does not accept.

...but I thought the last time I tested it on the -103 it didn't work.

-Bill
post #6012 of 16447
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Originally Posted by Dick Laurent View Post

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Originally Posted by Dick Laurent View Post

Regarding lyp sync/audio sync: I was watching my first BD and in the middle of the movie (1.5 hours in) the lip sync started to delay. The Oppo is using HDMI 1 into the AVR, LPCM/Bitstream. Now everything I play is out of sync, BD and DVD. I also tried HDMI 2, no luck. Split display as well.

Both HDMI outputs do not have a lyp sync issue when connected directly to the TV. I also tried different HDMI ports on the AVR, and three different HDMI cables. There is no lyp sync issue with my other BD or HD DVD players. The AVR is an Onkyo SR806. So basically the audio is out of sync only when going through HDMI to the AVR.

Any ideas? I'm stumped. And annoyed.

Just a quick update, I reset the Oppo to factory settings again, set HDMI to Bitsrteam, and LPCM, and the same problem. I sent Oppo an email. I'll give them a couple days and then send it back to Amazon if there is no resolution. Sucks. I've been a strong Oppo supporter for about 10 years, but this is the first time I've encountered such a stubborn problem. We shall see. I have been lucky with my last four players to not end up with a dud, and I know, it's the nature of the beast.

Any input is greatly appreciated.
I'm puzzled by one of your comments. I own the BDP-93 so maybe that's why I'm confused. Twice you seem to be saying that you are using bitstream and LPCM. Since you seem to only have a lip sync problem going through your AVR, maybe you mean that you've tested with both LPCM selected, and again with bitstream selected. A good test would be setting the OPPO to output LPCM to your AVR. If you've tested both separately, then I would contact OPPO Monday.

Do you find it strange that lip sync problems started after the Blu-ray was 1.5 hours into the movie? Was HDMI 1 set to LPCM or bitstream at the time? I don't expect your HDMI cables to be the problem.

Since your problem started on the weekend, and none of the most knowledgeable members of this thread have had a chance to respond, it seems to me that returning your player to Amazon in a couple of days is slightly premature. If you have a defective player, OPPO will replace or repair it. smile.gif

How long have you had the 103, and have you been playing other Blu-ray or DVD movies without a problem before this current incident?
Edited by htwaits - 2/24/13 at 1:57pm
post #6013 of 16447
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Originally Posted by Dick Laurent View Post

Just a quick update, I reset the Oppo to factory settings again, set HDMI to Bitsrteam, and LPCM, and the same problem. I sent Oppo an email. I'll give them a couple days and then send it back to Amazon if there is no resolution. Sucks. I've been a strong Oppo supporter for about 10 years, but this is the first time I've encountered such a stubborn problem. We shall see. I have been lucky with my last four players to not end up with a dud, and I know, it's the nature of the beast.

Any input is greatly appreciated.

Why don't you just call up oppo direct rather than e-mail? Then there would be no waiting period for a response.
post #6014 of 16447
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Originally Posted by giedrys View Post

Unless both HDMI's are enabled in dual display mode, all I see on main TV is picture for 3 sec and the constant green screen flashing. OK so I would use both HDMI's out even when 2nd TV is off but there comes another bug- Oppo somehow manages to "mirror" HMDI 2 out audio settings(which are 2ch PCM because signal is being send directly to 2nd TV) and therefore only sends 2 ch audio to the main TV as well, even though incoming signal clearly shows as DD 5.1. OK, I can get back DD5.1 audio on my main TV by unplugging HDMI 2 but then here comes along green screen flashing!
If you only have one TV on and the other is off, to avoid potential HDMI handshake issues and limit the handshake to just the TV which is on, is the 103's video output set to AUTO? This would trigger an HDMI video re-handshake when one or both of the TV's is powered on or off, so that the video output from the 103 is compatible with "the lowest common denominator" of the two TV's. There's no way the source device can send out two separate video streams when there are downstream display devices that have different video characteristics, so the lesser of the two display devices "wins" which certainly makes sense.

Same with the audio stream. If you have a downstream audio device (in this case, using your second HDTV's speakers) which cannot support multi-channel audio, the source device MUST send out 2-channel PCM since again that is the "lowest common denominator" that will satisfy all of your downstream audio devices. Again, two different audio streams cannot be "routed" through your AVR differently (that I know of, anyway), so I'm quite surprised you say the 103 is actually delivering multi-channel to the AVR when both TV's are on. I would have guessed the 103 would simply deliver 2-channel PCM since the downstream HDTV can only accept that.

Do you have "HDMI pass-through" enabled on your AVR? That allows the source device to see the relayed-to downstream device (beyond the other side of the AVR), and would cause the 103 to only deliver 2-channel audio since the second TV requires it. If you had "HDMI pass-through" disabled on the AVR, it would be the AVR's audio capabilities which would control, and you'd now get multi-channel audio from 103 to the AVR. Of course you'd get no sound at all to the downstream second TV's speakers, but that's what disabling "HDMI pass-through" is supposed to do. That's why it's available... to pass video but not audio. And if that second TV is powered off, if you also disable "HDMI pass-through" on your AVR I'm sure the 103 would now put out multi-channel audio via HDMI to the AVR.

My own setup involves "Split A/V", with audio-only out of HDMI-2 on the 103 going to an external [headphone] audio system. HDMI-1 on the 103 goes to my Yamaha RX-V867 which itself has two HDMI outputs for video-only, one going to my Panny 65VT50 and the other going to my Sony 34XBR960. Multi-channel audio is handled by the external audio system, and 2-channel stereo through speakers is handled by the AVR. When I want to hear multi-channel audio I configure the 103's "speaker configuration" to 7.1. The AVR's audio system is also disabled, so nothing comes out of its speakers. When I want to hear sound through 2-channel speakers via the AVR, I configure the 103's "speaker configuration" to "downmix to stereo", and the AVR has it speakers enabled.

Note that my RX-V867 AVR also has "Zone 2" support, and can be configured to route its main input downmixed-to-stereo by the AVR for delivery to 2 speakers in Zone 2. I actually have two speakers in Zone 2 (used instead of the 960's built-in speakers), so I can get 2-channel sound in Zone 2 (i.e. at the second TV) downmixed to stereo by the AVR (from the arriving multi-channel analog audio coming from the 103's multi-channel analog outputs to the multi-channel analog inputs of the AVR). And this can happen simultaneously with the multi-channel HDMI audio from the 103 going to HDMI-2 out of the 103 to my external audio system.

If your second TV was 1080i-only (e.g. like my own second TV, a Sony 34XBR960 CRT which cannot accept 1080p) but your first TV was 1080p-capable (e.g. like my own first TV, a Panny 65VT50 which can accept 1080p), if both sets are powered on the 103 puts out 1080i... which is "correct" since 1080i is required by the 960 even though the 65VT50 can accept 1080p. But if I power off the 960, the AUTO setting re-negotiates via new HDMI handshake and now the 103 changes itself to put out 1080p. But with both sets on, there's nothing that can be done except 1080i since there's only one video stream coming out of the 103.

Again... your audio issue is controlled by the "HDMI pass-through" of audio from 103 through your AVR and on to the 2-channel speakers of your second TV. If you used the AVR as your sound system controller, and only needed to pass video on to your second TV, you wouldn't have an audio problem involving the 103 as the source device. Disable "HDMI pass-through" on the AVR when the second TV is powered off, and your multi-channel audio problem should disappear.
Edited by DSperber - 2/24/13 at 2:41pm
post #6015 of 16447
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Originally Posted by Sidetracked View Post

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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

I'm confused with all the choices of region-free modification kits for the BDP103/105 for DVDs and Blurays. The FAQ seems to list those that work internal to the player. Do they make some that you can only connect externally and not have to open up the player to do so? My 105 is deep inside the rack and the thought of removing this heavy thing from the rack, remove its cover, remove the MCH analog board to get access to some connector isn;t appealing at all ...

Anyone?

There is an external adaptor - it's the one from imeg on ebay (where I got mine) and Only Best
Rated in Canada. It looks like they're the same unit.

To use it externally, it plugs into the R232 port and USB port on the rear of the machine. It works
fine on my 103, and I also had the version for the 93 and that worked well from soon after the machine
came out, and is still working fine.

Only caveat - the current ad on ebay for the imeg store doesn't specifically say 'external', so you might
email before buying, just to make sure it's still the same unit I got a couple of months ago.

 

Thanks Sidetracked ...i mailed the vendor to get more specifics. There's also one for under $40 that looks identical to the ones costing $79 but rated for the BDP-93/95. I wonder if the cheaper one for the 95 would work for the 105 as well...

post #6016 of 16447
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

Thanks Sidetracked ...i mailed the vendor to get more specifics. There's also one for under $40 that looks identical to the ones costing $79 but rated for the BDP-93/95. I wonder if the cheaper one for the 95 would work for the 105 as well...

Glad I could help.smile.gif

FWIW, before ordering the new one for my 103 I tested mine from my 93 on the 103 and it didn't work, even though they looked
very similar.
post #6017 of 16447
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Originally Posted by BadClams View Post

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Originally Posted by AndrewFG View Post

For this very reason the player has a DIAG (Diagnostic) video output plug that you can connect to your Tv using a plain composite video cable...

Not an option for me as my equipment is in a closet and my only output to the TV is a single HDMI...

if all else fails I guess I can pull it out and carry it to the TV; what a PITA; at least the PS3 will revert automatically if the user doesn't confirm (because they can actually "SEE" the result after the change...)
Try using the Resolution button on the remote to change the output to 480p (not 480i).

It sounds like what happened is that your current HDMI cable can't handle the extra bandwidth for Deep Color at 1080p. By lowering the output resolution you should get the image back, which will let you get into the Setup menu without having to re-cable.

The "Blank HDMI 2" setting you were worried about only applies during 3D content playback.
--Bob
post #6018 of 16447
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Originally Posted by Dick Laurent View Post

Regarding lyp sync/audio sync: I was watching my first BD and in the middle of the movie (1.5 hours in) the lip sync started to delay. The Oppo is using HDMI 1 into the AVR, LPCM/Bitstream. Now everything I play is out of sync, BD and DVD. I also tried HDMI 2, no luck. Split display as well.

Both HDMI outputs do not have a lyp sync issue when connected directly to the TV. I also tried different HDMI ports on the AVR, and three different HDMI cables. There is no lyp sync issue with my other BD or HD DVD players. The AVR is an Onkyo SR806. So basically the audio is out of sync only when going through HDMI to the AVR.

Any ideas? I'm stumped. And annoyed.

If there is an "auto lip-sync" adjustment in the AVR, TURN IT OFF. Odds are it is getting bad data from your TV.

I take it you are running BOTH audio and video through the AVR. If instead you are only running audio through the AVR (dual HDMI cabling with video going direct to the TV), then you've likely been bitten by the "helpful AVR" problem. I.e,. the AVR is adding a chunk of audio delay because it does not know you are bypassing it for video. To cure this you need to find a setting that bypasses the (unused) video processing in the AVR -- either by turning off video output from it or setting it to some sort of "HDMI video pass through" mode.
--Bob
post #6019 of 16447
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Originally Posted by sourbeef View Post

No, but you can get it with the ROKU stick, that is what I do anyhow.
Thank you. I will try that.

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Originally Posted by Hi Deaf View Post

What does Amazon have that Netflix and Hulu do not?

Amazon doesn't have anything more than Netflix and Hulu, probably the opposite. However, it is free if you are Prime member. As an Amazon addict its a good reason for me smile.gif
post #6020 of 16447
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Originally Posted by sourbeef View Post

No, but you can get it with the ROKU stick, that is what I do anyhow.

Do you plug the Roku stick into the oppo?
I am using a projector.
post #6021 of 16447
Hi, I've had my 103 about a month now, and I have a question I didn't see answered in the FAQ section, though I may have missed it. I'm running with HDMIs split, 1 to the display and 2 to my receiver. I've started collecting SACDs and have 4 so far. When I put an SACD in, it may or may not get picked up as an SACD and decode as DSD (or it just defaults to stereo cd, all 4 are hybrids). This doesn't seem disc dependent as it could happen to any of the 4. I thought maybe it was a receiver issue (Yamaha RX-V671) but installed a new Pioneer SC-61 Elite yesterday and it's doing the same thing. If I open and close the tray, again, it may or may not decode properly. It will work eventually, but may take several attempts. I am set up for SACD multi-channel and DSD in the Oppo's menu. Perhaps a handshake issue of sorts? Once playing, it's fine. If you think it may be a cable issue, I don't mind replacing it....if that's the problem area. I just don't really want to spend more cash for an up(per) scale HDMI cable if it won't make a difference. Appreciate any advice you might have, thanks.
post #6022 of 16447
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Originally Posted by chomperoni View Post

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Originally Posted by sourbeef View Post

No, but you can get it with the ROKU stick, that is what I do anyhow.

Do you plug the Roku stick into the oppo?
I am using a projector.

You can plug the ROKU Streaming Stick into the Front HDMI Input of the 103/105. (That input is special as it also provides power, called MHL.) If you have a stand-alone ROKU box you can use either HDMI Input of the 103/105.
--Bob
post #6023 of 16447
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Originally Posted by Tornado Red View Post

Hi, I've had my 103 about a month now, and I have a question I didn't see answered in the FAQ section, though I may have missed it. I'm running with HDMIs split, 1 to the display and 2 to my receiver. I've started collecting SACDs and have 4 so far. When I put an SACD in, it may or may not get picked up as an SACD and decode as DSD (or it just defaults to stereo cd, all 4 are hybrids). This doesn't seem disc dependent as it could happen to any of the 4. I thought maybe it was a receiver issue (Yamaha RX-V671) but installed a new Pioneer SC-61 Elite yesterday and it's doing the same thing. If I open and close the tray, again, it may or may not decode properly. It will work eventually, but may take several attempts. I am set up for SACD multi-channel and DSD in the Oppo's menu. Perhaps a handshake issue of sorts? Once playing, it's fine. If you think it may be a cable issue, I don't mind replacing it....if that's the problem area. I just don't really want to spend more cash for an up(per) scale HDMI cable if it won't make a difference. Appreciate any advice you might have, thanks.

Loading a hybrid SACD disc and ending up with it recognized as a CD instead of SACD is a bug. The first thing to do is check that you have the latest firmware. Check Setup > Device Setup > Firmware Information and confirm that all 3 parts of the firmware (Main, Loader, and Sub/MCU) match the versions shown on the Support page for the 103 on OPPO Digital's web site.

If you are still having problems with the latest firmware, email OPP Tech Support with the disc details, including the bar code number off the disc packaging, and they'll take it from there.
--Bob
post #6024 of 16447
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Originally Posted by chomperoni View Post

Thank you. I will try that.
Amazon doesn't have anything more than Netflix and Hulu, probably the opposite. However, it is free if you are Prime member. As an Amazon addict its a good reason for me smile.gif


They get some exclusives :

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/01/entertainment-us-amazon-downtonabbey-idUSBRE91014820130201
post #6025 of 16447
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

You can plug the ROKU Streaming Stick into the Front HDMI Input of the 103/105. (That input is special as it also provides power, called MHL.) If you have a stand-alone ROKU box you can use either HDMI Input of the 103/105.
--Bob

Thank you
post #6026 of 16447
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

I'm puzzled by one of your comments. I own the BDP-93 so maybe that's why I'm confused. Twice you seem to be saying that you are using bitstream and LPCM. Since you seem to only have a lip sync problem going through your AVR, maybe you mean that you've tested with both LPCM selected, and again with bitstream selected. A good test would be setting the OPPO to output LPCM to your AVR. If you've tested both separately, then I would contact OPPO Monday.

I only like to use LPCM with all of my players that offer the choice. I checked bitstream just to see if the problem would present there as well. Sorry for the confusion, I meant it to read that the problem persists with both.

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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Do you find it strange that lip sync problems started after the Blu-ray was 1.5 hours into the movie? Was HDMI 1 set to LPCM or bitstream at the time? I don't expect your HDMI cables to be the problem.

Yes I find it very odd. And I try EVERYTHING, including cables. I even changed the filter for my house’s A/C… That did nothing.

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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Since your problem started on the weekend, and none of the most knowledgeable members of this thread have had a chance to respond, it seems to me that returning your player to Amazon in a couple of days is slightly premature. If you have a defective player, OPPO will replace or repair it. smile.gif

How long have you had the 103, and have you been playing other Blu-ray or DVD movies without a problem before this current incident?

The problem started a week ago, but being a “-phile” of A/V and trouble-shooting, I’ve been trying what I can when I can. And yes, you are right about OPPO’s return policy being stellar. As I’ve said, I’ve been using their products for almost 10 years (really about 9… I rounded up). I love OPPO, but I can get a replacement in a day from Amazon without paying for shipping either way, so that’s a no-brainer. And there’s a time limit, so it’s never premature.

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Originally Posted by fookoo_2010 View Post

Why don't you just call up oppo direct rather than e-mail? Then there would be no waiting period for a response.

I plan to do that, but email lets them get to it while I’m away for the next couple of days. I can follow up when I get back. And their email support is also stellar, as they’ve answered questions for me in no time at all.

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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

If there is an "auto lip-sync" adjustment in the AVR, TURN IT OFF. Odds are it is getting bad data from your TV.

I take it you are running BOTH audio and video through the AVR. If instead you are only running audio through the AVR (dual HDMI cabling with video going direct to the TV), then you've likely been bitten by the "helpful AVR" problem. I.e,. the AVR is adding a chunk of audio delay because it does not know you are bypassing it for video. To cure this you need to find a setting that bypasses the (unused) video processing in the AVR -- either by turning off video output from it or setting it to some sort of "HDMI video pass through" mode.
--Bob

I appreciate the constructive advise, and yes, I always have my AVR on “Pass through.” I never use auto-lip sync, personally.

I’ve been working on this issue for the last week, trying to pin down the problem, or see if it resolves itself. Today was the day I just happened to ask for help, and many hours of tinkering can probably produce an irritable tone in a post. When you’ve been at this “home theatre” gig for a spell (about 22 years or so myself), you tend to vent at times, or just be ornery. As I said before, nature of the beast. And message boards… tongue.gif

Thanks for the replies, gentlemen (and ladies)!
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Loading a hybrid SACD disc and ending up with it recognized as a CD instead of SACD is a bug. The first thing to do is check that you have the latest firmware. Check Setup > Device Setup > Firmware Information and confirm that all 3 parts of the firmware (Main, Loader, and Sub/MCU) match the versions shown on the Support page for the 103 on OPPO Digital's web site.

If you are still having problems with the latest firmware, email OPP Tech Support with the disc details, including the bar code number off the disc packaging, and they'll take it from there.
--Bob

I'm good on the firmware (1220) so I'll drop a note to Oppo Tech Support, thanks for your time Bob.
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Originally Posted by Dick Laurent View Post

. . . .

The problem started a week ago, but being a “-phile” of A/V and trouble-shooting, I’ve been trying what I can when I can. And yes, you are right about OPPO’s return policy being stellar. As I’ve said, I’ve been using their products for almost 10 years (really about 9… I rounded up). I love OPPO, but I can get a replacement in a day from Amazon without paying for shipping either way, so that’s a no-brainer. And there’s a time limit, so it’s never premature.

. . . .

Sync problems are not something that just appear. Something must have changed, but of course the odds of remembering what changed a week ago are pretty slim.

My usual recommendation when an OPPO player is behaving in unexpected fashion (i.e., you don't THINK you changed anything), is to do a re-install of the firmware an reset of the player Like this:

1) Download a fresh copy of the USB install version of the current Official firmware and put it on a USB stick.

2) Remove any disc in the player.

3) In Setup, Erase Persistent Storage. Then Reset Accounts and Settings.

4) Power down the player, insert your USB stick with the firmware, and power up. Accept for re-install each piece of the firmware.

5) When the re-install finishes, the player will power down. Remove the USB stick.

6) Power up. The player will recommend you do a Reset as it powers up. Accept that. Then go into Setup and once again, Erase Persistent Storage and Reset Accounts and Settings (this is a fuller Reset than what you were offered at power up).

7) Power down the player. Pull the power plug for about 10 seconds. Do not skip this step.

8) Power up and re-enter your personal settings and whatever account credentials you need to enter to get things going again.

9) Power down the player once more. Settings are saved during the power down cycle.



Test sync using content of known sync quality. I recommend you use the A/V Sync test charts found on Disney's "WOW World of Wonder" calibration discs (available in both Blu-ray and SD-DVD versions).

Now, the problem may in fact be in the AVR or in the Display. In particular, check to make sure that any video "enhancement" processing is disabled in the display. Some displays are also known to take too long in their processing when fed 1080p/24 input, so try sending 1080p/60 to the display to see if it makes a difference.

Similarly, check any video processing settings in the AVR that might be interfering.
--Bob
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Sync problems are not something that just appear. Something must have changed, but of course the odds of remembering what changed a week ago are pretty slim.

My usual recommendation when an OPPO player is behaving in unexpected fashion (i.e., you don't THINK you changed anything), is to do a re-install of the firmware an reset of the player Like this:
--Bob

That's the one thing I haven't tried. Probably should have done that instead of changing my air filter... wink.gif

And YES, the sync did "just appear." It happened on the fourth word into Kilgore's/Robert Duvall's "I love the smell of napalm" speech in Apocalypse Now. And it's been off ever since. Middle of the movie, so no adjustments and such.

But thanks for the firmware tip, I completely missed that one. I'll also give the 24/60 output a try again, too, as I've done so many things in conjunction, another "change" may have infected my sterile trouble-shooting of that choice. And I DO have a Samsung as the current OPPO display, and we KNOW how buggy they can be with 24 iinput.
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Originally Posted by chomperoni View Post

Thank you. I will try that.
Amazon doesn't have anything more than Netflix and Hulu, probably the opposite. However, it is free if you are Prime member. As an Amazon addict its a good reason for me smile.gif

Same here, Prime member, so it is nice to at least review their catalogue from time to time to see what's new or just watch a movie I otherwise would not think about watching but looks interesting even so.cool.gif
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